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What can Resistance 3 do to make up for Resistance 2's failures? (TheGamingLiberty.com)

Irish Gaming Website TheGamingLiberty.com write:

Insomniac's very own community manager James Stevenson has come out as saying that Resistance 2 was perceived as a 'failure' by the Resistance diehard's out there.

Rumours had been circulating for some time about the existence of Resistance 3. We've all seen the photos of the billboard which appears to be advertising Resistance 3 and although Insomniac and Sony haven't confirmed its legitimacy, let's face it folks, we all know Resistance 3 is a dead cert.

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GWAVE5356d ago

I know that most people preferred R1:FoM over R2, but personally, I loved R2. I loved the huge battles and the hordes of enemies.

But anyway...good article. Insomniac tends to get a lot of grief for their games because they're either "too much like the previous game" or "not enough like the previous game", but all of their games are a blast to play.

Sunny_D5356d ago

It's funny R&C FToD was criticized for having too much variety and was actually deducted points for that. Now, ACiT is being criticized for not changing it up and keeping things the same. Damn, doubled standard critics.

MazzingerZ5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

I've always thought Resistance had the respect such a franchise deserved so I'm surprised by all these articles that are flooding the internet (or N4G) just because Insomiac said that "was perceived as a 'failure'" not that they actually think or the game is actually a failure.

The game plays great, the Chimera are badass, GREAT weapons and the game also looks great. How the story unfolds in R2 is great, you don't get the feeling that you played a story from start to end and that in R3 you'll start all over again with whatever they come up with...it's neither a cliffhanger like in Halo 2 and tells you wait 4 years to find out how it ends (still waiting)

You don't see some cheesy scenes of extraterrestrials ligthing up cigars to humans like in ODST, when I think about great games on the PS3, Resistance is always there together with MGS4, Heavenly Sword, Folklore, Warhwak, Uncharted, etc

What all these articles mean with the franchise don't get the "respect" it deserves? that kids don't love it? nor kill their parents because they don't get to play the game nor more co-op after midnight? or maybe because there are no lunch boxes for kids with a Chimera on it? or perhaps because it's not mentioned as "evil" and a "threat" to society like GTA by some lawyer?

The game got great scores, the ones that deserved,you can't demand perfect scores for the game from all the sites either, those are for games like MGS4

But from the main sites Gamespot, Eurogamer, IGN, Gametrailers they got scores from 9 to 9.5...so I don't get it

looking forward to Resistance 3!

sunnygrg5356d ago

Resistance 2 was not a failure. Get over it.

Although I would love to see how the story continues in the third iteration :)

BattleAxe5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

I liked the first Resistance quite a bit more than the 2nd one, but I can't help but think about how awesome this series would have been if they had gone with a more realistic look like Killzone 2, rather than the cartoony art style they decided to go with.

@ Above:
I certainly wouldn't put Resistance on the same level as games lke MGS 4, Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and the soon to be released God of War3.

slipkoRn5356d ago

want to ride the tanks and the spider.

firelogic5356d ago

I agree. I vastly preferred R2 over R1. I felt it was a huge improvement. I hope Insomniac sticks to their own vision of the franchise and not cave in to a minority of people against R2.

Harry_Manback5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

Maybe one of the main reasons RFOM is remembered so fondly by myself & amongst others is because it's the best launch title the ps3 had.

It was exciting times for all of us who eagerly awaited getting our hands on a shiny new ps3 and standing in line out in the freezing cold (at least here in Minnesota) for hours on end on launch day.

And by the time R2 came along, we were all being spoiled by a barrage of other great titles.

But I believe Insomniac's best bet is try and make R3 more gritty and dark like RFOM to get that vibe back...possibly using a new or updated engine. And PLEASE bring back CTF!! Updated Somerset map FTW!

ReviewsArePolitics5356d ago

I loved the first one, and the second one had great co-op but they ruined the storyline. How can you "fix" a storyline anyway? If the spotted billboard is not fake, then R3 will partially take place in New York. I thought the US was completely destroyed in R2. Also, what about other places in the world? The Cloven? The events that happened millions of years ago?

They need to add more cinematic elements and they need to make the storylines more personal. We knew little about Hale in the first resistance, and we got to know him even less in R2. How hard is it for Insomniac to get that? They didn't correct the (minor) flaws in the first one, they *aimed* to do so but failed miserably.

Not that R2 is a bad game, I enjoyed it a lot, but just not as much as RFOM. I hope R3 is neither like the original nor like 2, give us something relatively new.

Xbox Avatars Shoe5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

How to make R3 great: Make R3 an improved R: FoM, not a game that borrows a ton from other games like R2 did.

R:FoM's health bar - It made the game REALLY suspenseful when you only has 25-50% health.

Weapon Wheel of course.

Split-Screen campaign co-op! i play through RFoM with my brother-in-law every time he visits (once a month). R2's co-op was impossible without at least 3 people so when I had a friend over we couldn't play co-op.

R2's multiplayer sucked! Grenade fest and skewed auto-aim. I especially hated how you couldn't earn XP in custom games. The one-hit games in RFoM were epic! I would play One-Hit Snipers in the Hanger for 8 hours straight! R2's matchmaking always out me up against WAY higher levels which sucked.

The Resistance feel - R2 copied from other games too much which caused it to lose the unique feel that made RFoM, RFoM. I loved RFoM's pacing how it was non-stop action which made the whole game so much fun to replay over and over but Insomniac sad they purposely changed R2's pacing because they didn't like RFoM's non-stop action WTF?!

sikbeta5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

R3 must be an improvement from R:FOM, make it that way with the already amazing story, put all the goods things they take out of the game, and you get a REAL sequel

Sarcasm5355d ago

What kind of dumb article makes a title "What can this do better than that" without listing any suggestions...

Sarcasm5355d ago

Resistance 2 isn't a bad game by any stretch, it's just lost a lot of its uniqueness compared to Resistance 1. I personally felt detached from the story because there was no more narrative.

But IMO I still liked the combat and actual gameplay, it was still fun. But one thing they need to improve on is the boss battles. They were just too simplistic, all you had to do to defeat the leviathan was SHOOT. No clever way to take him down or anything.

What they should have done is have the leviathan on the same plain as you and you run around and shoot different limbs and parts in order to make him kneel. Then you run up on him Shadow of the Colossus style and shoot vulnerable spots and then eventually up to the head for the final blow. Something like that would have been much better.

ReservoirDog3165355d ago

What can Resistance 3 do?

Better story (ending was good in 2 but the story was a little more interesting in 1). Also make it look a little older. 1 felt a few years off of WW2. 2 felt like CoD4 with an occasional level with old cars.

And weapon wheel. That's it basically.

AKNAA5355d ago (Edited 5355d ago )

Let me hold onto more than 2 guns at a time and I'll be very happy.

Also, one thing that bugged me in R2 was that it did seemed rushed!
You'd finish a level at a certain city and yet, you felt like you didn't make a difference cause it's still a war zone and ur rushed in the helicopter for ur next objective?! WFT?!

other than that, I luved the game!
p.s those creatures that hatched out of the egg freaked the sh1t out of me lol!

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Sunny_D5356d ago

Weapon wheel. Bring back the gloom and doom color palette from the 1st one. Bring the old multiplayer back from the 1st one. Narrator please. Change it up like the 1st on where you didn't have to always shoot. Bigger isn't always badder. Before, R2 was released, there was already complaints about it from hardcore players in the beta. More innovative weapons that Insomniac are known for.

Listen to your fans, Not the critics who want generic gameplay like any other shooter out there.

Voozi5356d ago

"gloom and doom"
More like, brown and bloom. I for one, appreciated the colors in Resistance 2.

callahan095355d ago

I, too, appreciated the colors in R2. I don't know why everyone wants that drab brown stuff. I thought the visuals in R2 were vibrant and gorgeous.

Sevir045355d ago

The game was Gritty action packed and well paced, Bring back the Narration that made the first game's Story so cohesive and also present the story with cenematics like R2. bring back the weapon wheel, and the life bar hud, Keep The Co-op of R2, and keep all those huge set pieces from R2. and there is where you have a winner. I prefered the Multiplayer of 1 over 2, but loved the Online co-op of R2. i'd still love to have a buddy with me in single player though so i really Cant wait. R3 will be the sh*t, but bring it on insomniac.

Still R2 wasn't a bad game it simply more like COD than resistance.

mrv3215356d ago

Ignore R1's and R2's stupid xbot reviews and let insomniac od what they do best, MAKE GREAT GAMES.

Look at the flaws from R2 now compare them with R1's review complaint, R2 fixed what was 'wrong' with R1 and now everyone is complaining.

Maybe R2 was just too original.... who knows that's a problem with the PS3 being to original and not relying on a certain 1 or 2 games.

Sunny_D5356d ago

Wrong! As good as R2 was, it was actually worse than the 1st. IG made it like any other shooter. The first felt fresh and original with IG's own personality in it. R2 has Cod type gameplay and Halo like graphics.

mrv3215356d ago

That's what I'm trying to say, prehaps poorly.

They made Resistance: FOM which was awsome and tense.

The reviews hated it for being good and on the PS3

Insomniac listend.

R2 is still an awsome game, but the complaints with the reviews where fixed. I prefered R2 over FOM.I found R2 original also.

ape0075356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

+amazing graphics and add much more intesity

OFF TOPIC:

I donno you may disagree with me but I think that if IW and insomniac teamed up,I think they would make the greatest fps ever,just think about it,I know it's a fantasy

Imagine the tons of pure epicness that will happen,insomniac work for ideas,aliens,the shooting mechanics(the detiction in R is better than in cod),bosses,types of weapons,lasers,shredders,zombi es etc and IW work for intensity\perfect pacing\unforgettable set pieces,online\perks\streaks,60 fps,smooth as butter controles with perfect aiming,the awesome feeling of firing a gun,animation,voiceovers and sound track

I want them to MIX

what do you guys think

Sunny_D5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

I think R2 was already trying to be COD so, no. Just be original in their execution. I want Insomniac to stop the series after 3 and make something completely different.

beavis4play5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

they do MP well, but that's it. their SP tends to lack a quality story and seems very much like an average FPS. (the sniper level in COD4 was a HUGE disappointment to me. just a "simon-says level" where i had to follow what the NPC told me to do) where they shine is creating a MP experience that MP players seem to love . i don't think this (MP) was necessarily the problem with R2.
plus, i don't think R2 was terrrible. it was a good game.......not just as good as R1. bring back the weapon wheel, focus on the story, and give us more "R1 type" battles (like the bus depot and defending the convoy; defending the bridge while your guys fall back....the battle leading up to the church.... oh! and that battle where you're fighting the chimera for control of the rope/plank bridge!!!! that was awesome!!! ).
i think R2 did a lot right.....and considering it's insomniac - i'm sure they'll be able to make R3 an excellent experience.........all without IW help.

and if you're reading this insomniac: GET THE STORY TO RUSSIA!!!! YOU ALLUDED TO THAT COUNTRY WAAAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH IN R1 TO IGNORE IT COMPLETELY IN R2.........that really left me irritated. i was wanting to know much more about "the cloven"

ape0075356d ago

R2 was good but R1 was better,R1 did have its own humor,R1 is a legend

madpuppy5356d ago

first, THE WEAPONS WHEEL AND NO DAMN 2 WEAPON LOADOUT!

Second, I like the gloomy feel of R1 and the heavy snow.

Third, get rid of those weaponless hordes of aliens, they suck!!

Fourth, WEAPONS WHEEL!!

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Queers of War5356d ago

Says the person who hasn't had an AAA exclusive on his console ALL YEAR.

topdawg1225356d ago

Why is everyone so obsessed with the weapons wheel? That's not gonna make it automatically surpass R2, the two weapons thing was fine to me.

madpuppy5356d ago

It made the game super predictable, if you went an area in a level with a few larks laying around you knew you were going to fight something big and hard to kill.

The weapon wheel is really enjoyable, I liked to have more than 2 weapons at my disposable, I don't want every FPS to emulate MW or Halo.

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Eonjay726d ago

Resistance 3 is such a great game. One of my all time bests.

cooperdnizzle726d ago

Couldn’t agree more. Still love It as a shooter to this day.

Just something about that game. I really wish they would just do a remaster, don’t even need a remake just bring it up to todays out put, touch up a few things if any, and I am there to buy it day one.

Of course I would love a remake built from the ground up. As long as they treated it like Shadow of the Colossus, or close to those type of remake. Wouldn’t want it to get the RE treatment…. Just because the game is already paced so perfect and hits all the right beats that I wouldn’t touch that aspect.

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Ranking the Resistance Games From Worst To Best

While it's been on ice for as long as it was around, the Resistance franchise has no shortage of quality.

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Knushwood Butt783d ago

My take:

Single player
3, 2, 1

Multiplayer
3, 1, 2

Overall
3, 2, 1

I beat the lengthy single player in 1 multiple times and spent hours in the online too. Plus 1 featured my home town! Special mention to the audio design in 1: playing that with surround headphones blew me away.

Note: I have the platinum for Resistance 2.

Eidolon782d ago

Resistance 1 MP will always be my favorite. Call it nostalgia or whatever, but that was my jam, felt more balance, natural.

Miraak82 782d ago

i have the platinium too , 10k kills in online ranked matches was no joke . Took me 3-4 months straight grinding but it was fun . To put it in perspective you only got like 25 kills per match if you were 1st place every match that's at Least 400 matches in 1st

Sciurus_vulgaris783d ago

I only played the 3 main Resistance titles. My ranking would be;
1. Resistance 3
2. Resistance: Fall of Man
3. Resistance 2

GoodGuy09783d ago

Man I loved 3's campaign. Another gem stuck on the ps3 and who knows if insomniac will go back to the franchise.

fr0sty782d ago

Resistance, Warhawk, MAG, Motorstorm, there's so many first party gems on PS3 that Sony has just left to die...

P_Bomb783d ago

Never played Burning Skies but I still have Retribution.

monkey602782d ago

Burning Skies was about 3 hours long and rather inconsequential. You haven't missed anything

porkChop782d ago

Honestly, Burning Skies was shit. There's no two ways about it. At first I thought it looked terrible, then I second guessed myself. Big mistake.

darthv72781d ago

Retribution has this really cool feature where you could use a PS3 to link a controller to it and play. So if you had a 2000 or 3000 hooked to a tv, you can use a real controller. All of this predates the PSP Go's ability to sync a sixaxis to it via bluetooth.

Yui_Suzumiya782d ago

Resistance 3 was shocking and brilliant. Loved it.

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Jin_Sakai1139d ago

Really wish Insomniac would bring back Resistance!

darthv721138d ago

Agreed. Until they do a new entry, I'd love to get the two portable games remade into console versions. Maybe in a nice compilation with the mainline titles.

monkey6021138d ago

Burning Skies wasn't a great game.
It was only a couple of hours long and there was nothing memorable about it.

I'd love a new entry

darthv721138d ago

^monkey, hence why it should be remade into a better version.

SullysCigar1139d ago

Resistance 3's campaign was gorgeous for the time - and an awesome game to boot.

monkey6021138d ago

I remember being put off by it because McHale wasn't the MC but it turned out to be my favourite campaign

CBaoth1138d ago

by and large though the Resistance IP featured many protagonists (4 altogether I think if you include the portables). One of the reasons I enjoyed it was not being shackled to individual story arcs. Very rare for a major franchise.

Army_of_Darkness1137d ago

My favorite resistance game as well! It seriously had creepy, scary a$$ moments bro! It made me want an action horror game from insomniac!

Mr_cheese1138d ago

Remember playing this through online co op with the move controller and gun attachment! What a game!

BlackIceJoe1139d ago

I've said in the past I'd like to see this series return and have it take place years later, like in the present.

I'll give you an example if I'm not mistaken the last game ended in the 50s, so if it was to take place some time in the 2020s you'd have an opportunity to see how the world changed after the fall of Chimera and all the new technology that came out of that war.

Just like in our universe we all know WW2 happened, but we never experienced it, so if the next Resistance game takes place years later so too would people in that universe know a war look place against the Chimera, they just wouldn't know what it really was like.

So getting to see how that universe would respond to the Chimera reemerging would be interesting.

Imagine a little kid talking with his grandfather about the war and the kid just thinks it was just a made up bed time horror story and what was said was worse than what really took place, but now that the Chimera come back the kid will find out why years later the old timer adults were still waiting for the Chimera to return.

I think there is great potential for this series still and I really believe the best way forward for Resistance is make it have a time jump too.

So hopefully this series will return.

Dragonopolis1138d ago

Great Idea. I'd play that version.

Resistance was a great game and of all the remasters.... I would play a great remastered version of resistance series as well

waverider1138d ago

I was blown away when i played for the first time Resistance on the PS3. Great Game. Also liked very much an played for hundred of hours the Co-op of R2. The SP campaign of R3 is also excelent. I really hope that Sony and Insomniac annouced the Remaster of the Series and a new chapter. They got story to do that.

Jambola121138d ago

Resistance 2 was one of the first few games i played on ps3 and I loved it, would definitely finish that again :D

Chevalier1138d ago

I loved all the Resistance games. But part 2 online was amazing. The Marksmen for the Spec Ops type class when it was fully upgraded was such an amazing weapon. Oh man I wish they release all the games again and let us play part 2 online again.

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