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Why all games from now on must be like Borderlands

The Kartel raises some fascinating, if not controversial, points on why every developer can learn from Borderlands and ensure that 3 key gameplay elements from now on must be in every game.

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maawdawg5319d ago

Sure, it is a decent read but saying "I have not played the game" in the first paragraph and telling a bunch of other games to change to be like it seems a bit off to me.

I am counting the hours until I have this game finally and fully expect it to take over my entire gaming schedule but that is a bit too much for even me. At least play the game before you try to make it into the model for the future of the video game industry.

Elven65319d ago

I agree, on paper many games look like great ideas, but in execution they could fail. Just take a look at Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, it was an ok game but a lot of the cool stuff they showed in pre release material was only stuff they did in cutscenes!

R2D25319d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

I saw A$$.

Timesplitter145319d ago (Edited 5319d ago )

Well yeah but I do think these are 3 very important things.

- 4 player co-op (offline too, for Pete's sake. I don't wanna send a friend back home just so we can play together)
- RPG elements (Gives replayability and is much better)
- Character choices (yes, but not like in Borderlands. More customization would be better. No pre-set characters)

Myst5318d ago

You know maawdawg it seems you and I have the same enthusiasm for borderlands lol should add you on PSN if your getting it for that system of course :p.

@Timesplitter14:
I agree with you, for example I kind of wished that Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 had split screen co-op when I went to visit my sister so we could play. We were both disappointed in the fact that it didn't. I wish more developers would at least make the same amount offline as online, or at least half (in the case that is borderlands).

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arschgesichtpenis5319d ago

The dude has been exposed as a viral marketer on GAF.

Nice job, n4g dudes.

john master lee5319d ago (Edited 5319d ago )

Um... how so? Borderlands didn't pay for the article. There's never even been any contact with the developer or publisher of the game. Have no affiliations with it. And if you read the piece, it doesn't even sing praise to the game. The article highlights gameplay FEATURES, and it just so happens Borderlands is used as an example.

Gaf is being overzealous, and is rumor mongering. Which is typical Gaf.

john master lee5319d ago (Edited 5319d ago )

Actually, it's not important per se that I play the game. Because I'm not trying to review the game. I'm attempting to highlight how Borderlands is focusing in on three key features which I seriously think many game developers need to also prioritize in their development efforts.

Even if the game sucks, my hope is that it doesn't diminish the importance of these key features.

Mr Logic5319d ago

The problem with saying that all games should include such and such features is that it takes away from a games uniqueness and makes them all the same.

Captain Tuttle5318d ago

You're not very good at your job.

Elven65319d ago

I'm not sold on Borderlands yet, I need a demo first. Borderlands should make like other games and get on with that demo!

jav09185318d ago

agreed. Especially after the graphics change.

Christopher5318d ago

I'm disappointed with the gameplay considering in the reviews they state you have to use a ton of bullets to take down most opponents. Seems to throw dirt in the face of the skill tree system, IMHO, which is there to empower you so that harder opponents won't require a full magazine of bullets. Instead, it's only a difference in one magazine versus two magazine of bullets for the regular mobs, more for the harder guys.

Mr Logic5319d ago

I totally disagree that all games should have an RPG element. I personally hate RPGs.

Timesplitter145319d ago (Edited 5319d ago )

You probably don't know what "RPG element" means.

It's like leveling up in COD4 online, gaining money to buy stuff, shaping your character with skills/perks of your choice, making choices in general, etc...

Everything that makes a game non-linear

Mr Logic5319d ago

I know that. I still think it's flawed. Perks are awarded based on how much time you've put into a game not how good you are at it.

Timesplitter145319d ago

Well that would also be an RPG element, and I'm not just talking about COD4 either

john master lee5318d ago

I hear where you are coming from.

I think that when people hear RPG, they assume some dice rolling type of mechanic. But it's really more about how you implement it into a game so that it doesn't feel like the traditional pen and paper sort of impression you have.

Like another poster said, even a game like COD has RPG elements in it, and it's really partly because of those features that the series has improved so much over the years.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies15d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken15d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing6916d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker16d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing6916d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos16d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt15d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken15d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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The importance of audio: How music makes games better

How do composers make the iconic music tracks from games that we love? And just what makes them so memorable?

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purple1018d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Twitter is blowing up right now

All games coming to PlayStation
Next Xbox will have steam
Next Xbox niche and only for “gamers who want it” (it’s a really powerful pc or a steam deck type portable, or both)

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville53d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi52d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein52d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos52d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein52d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan53d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK53d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long52d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger8853d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake53d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts53d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername53d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai53d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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