Killzone PS3 Beta Confirmed (Of Course)

Today, Seb "motherH" Downie of Guerrilla Games confirmed that there would be a public beta for Killzone on the PS3. When, is the big mystery.

"Of course there is going to be a public beta, I have always said that any game that has an online mode needs to go through a public beta to ensure it works as intended.

More on a beta later this year."

[Robotz Rule]

Good to hear!

Hope Killzone 2 online is as good as Resistance!

PS3/PSN ID:DrowsyWoozy

[wildcat]

I hope it's better lolz :)

[gta_cb]

well we will soon find out if the same things happen as the Halo 3 beta (loads of videos)

[Lord Anubis]

yay, I'm looking forward to E307

[clownfacemcgee]

In case you haven't heard, they canceled the big E3 after '06. I think there's still going to be a small conference, but you'd have to confirm that.

[ErcsYou]

you must be mistaken E3 2007 will happen, here is the proof
http://www.e3expo.com/login...
they have already told gamers we will see killzone 2 at E3

[ShAkKa]

there will be a E3 07 but it won`t be as big as previews events and now is called E for all.

[Starmaniac]

E for all is something completely different. E3 will be held in July in Santa Monica and although the size of the show and the number of the atendees will be significantly smaller, the news coming out of the event may be as interesting as in the previous occasions. There will be large platform holder press conferences just before E3 and it is believed that those will be as spectacular as ever.

[drtysouf21]

that i probably won't get invited to and that makes me sad. Come on Sony show me some love!

[Clinton514]

Register your PS3 at PlayStation.com and all of your games. ;) You might have luck

[Lord Anubis]

shhhhhhh......

lol just kidding.

[gta_cb]

isnt there a game you can buy so you can play the beta, like when people buy Crackdown they can play the Halo 3 beta?
(sorry this beta stuff is kinda new to me)

[MoonDust]

ohh snap

[Firewire]

Why Deep, Why? Why do you keep teasing us like this?

[gta_cb]

yeh hes always teasing lol

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

This is the biggest game this year next to halo.YEt we know more about halo then this game

[MoonDust]

Multiplatform.

[23478ueyur_938223]

Most multiplat games will be bigger, in general. But it has the potential to be a very good shooter.

[ben hates you]

mess up this time

[23478ueyur_938223]

I hope the selection is pretty wide. =)

[Mycococo]

i hope this isnt like the home beta trial beta!!! at least do it like the halo 3 beta where you could buy into it. as bull sheet as that is! i am excited about this. i dont think a xbox?halo3 owner will be jealose of the game but i think it will make us ps3 fanboys far far far less jealose ofe halo 3! but i hope it will blow halo3 of of its over publicised pedistool just like warhawk will.

[MoonDust]

Im sure warhawk and KZ will do just that. Don't hold your breath. I don't think anything can stop the H3 hype machine.

[silent ninja]

thats good to hear

[Bonsai1214]

definitely looking forward to this... if its public, hopefully i can get in this time.. haha

[jwatt]

I am excited for the halo 3 beta tomarrow but I would loved to be an a killzone ps3 beta.

[23478ueyur_938223]

I want to play Halo 3 and Killzone 2 RIGHT NOW! Heh. H3 beta is tomorrow right?

[ps3FTW]

Awesome find

[Ps3ShellShock]

you talk so highly of halo3 but yet looking at the game i really dont see the so called "HYPE" your talking about

the first halo - yes the hype was big and halo pulled it off well - and crushed killzone1 for ppl reffering it as the halo killer.

then halo2 came - big let down..only that was good was the online.

now halo3 - nothing really new..graphics still look cartoony, same animation, storyline seems to be the weak as even bungie agreed that they had a hard time coming up with what 2 do in part three so they went with the brute. i really dont understand what the big hype is for.halo3 is pretty much the same as halo2 thats a fact.

killzone in the other hand is gonna be pushing the console to the limit - everything in the enviroment is destructable...the gameplay in the trailer at E3 which im sure they will follow is gonna kick a$$..graphic comparing halo3 to killzone2 will be like comparing MSG4 to mario on the NEs

im not saying halo wont be good - just tired of ppl thinking its the best out there. halo3 just playing it save - didnt want 2 get creative or anything - but from what FPS games are doing these days halo3 may have just kick themselves in the butt this time around

[DADO]

will not push the PS3 to the limits. Look back at the PS2 every year the games got better ad better as the developers lend how to use the hardware. It will only show the potential the PS3 has. On the other hand GoW pushed the 360 to the limits that is why we will not see much improvement in the coming years on the 360 graphics.

[MoonDust]

First game, no real hype. After it became popular H2 became super hyped. Now H3 is coming out and it already has over 4mil. pre-order, and that's only in N/America, that is enough to know how much hype is behind this game. If you think Warhawk or any other game will take some shine off os Halo you will be in for a surprise. Come November there will only be one game on the news.
BTW: I doubt GOW pushed the 360 to its limits.

[Genki]

I would advise registering your PS3 at Playstation Underground, at least based on what happened with the Home Beta.

[ben hates you]

i place halo over killzone for one big reason, the gameplay, the game play in killzone is just a little to slow, kind of like graw if i'm playing online i want fast action halo. tell me where killzone got creative, halo brought fps back, new health system, graphics look great. show me what killzone looks like now you can't just a cgi trailer for last year. i like story line just because its not to original doesn't mean it can't be great(which it is) but thats what i think

[Bonsai1214]

the only thing that you mentioned that was good about halo was the health system. the graphics were as many mentioned, cartoony. halo did not bring fps back, it merely gave it new life on console. PC has had plenty of great fps since before halo and after it.

the original killzone was actually a really nice looking game because of the progressive layering of textures they used. however, the game was too great for the console, and the ps2 couldn't handle the calculations and processing needed for that method to work well. things will be different this time around (i hope) because there's so much potential with the ps3's architecture

[hfaze]

You've DEFINITELY never played a good round of Unreal Tournament (any of them) then...

Then again, coming from a PC FPS background (and usually cranking the snot out of the mouse sensitivity for insane speed), most console shooters feel slow to me.

Killzone 2 will be awesome, Unreal Tournament 3 is going to be mind blowing, Halo 3? I'll pass... =P

[AuburnTiger]

to me the only thing HALO brought back was the whole console multiplayer thing, just like goldeneye.

[BlackIceJoe]

I hope Sony makes this Beta for more then just GAP members. Plus it should be for any one that has a PS3 should be able to give it a try. That way KZ will be better then it would be had it not had the beta.

[Premonition]

Imagine every day going online just seeig the beauty of this game :) I think online will be intense.

[snoop_dizzle]

this is good.

that would be awesome.

[ErcsYou]

i think this game will take resistance's place as the gamers online fix. if its as organized as resistance or better , we will have a guaranteed hit. i visit gamecrazy on my lunch almost every day and this is the most asked about game along with gamers buying KZ1. i also see poor unused ps3's just waiting for adoption.

[jwatt]

This is really good, so they could really focus on the graphics and single player while we help out with gameplay mechanics giving them the feedback they need.

[Odion]

Honestly, i was just going to read this say what a nice treat this is was for ps3 owners and then you went and burned halo.

1. I am posting this question again, what really changed from FF 6-10? Nothing huge. The same could be said about the first 4 MGS on sonys platform.

2. Graphics mean SH!T ALL, in the long run. Sorry can anyone raise their hand and tell me what the biggest MMO, and RTS are?

Oh yes its not EQ2 with its near piture quality graphics or Vangaurd with the same thing, its not their deep guild functions or tradeskill systems, its good old World of Warcraft with its low end graphics and more simplistic gameplay. If you were to ask a reviewer which one was better, guess which one they would pick? Also Starcraft is still considered the best RTS ever made, and still stands well today with its terrible graphics.

People the point is gameplay makes or breaks a game and Halo 3 has already shown that.

3. Bungie never said that they were having trouble coming up with a storyline for this game, you do know their are 6 books and 2 graphic novels that fleshed out and built up the story for the third. Expect a longer more engaging storyline on the same epic scale.

4. If Killzone 1 was only ok whats makes the second one such a winner?

However i will say this

KZ open cut scene is one of my favorite ever just because of that guys speech.

KZ does a great job of giving a WWII feeling to the game with is sweet.

But

GoW pushed the 360 to its limits last year, the system like any other can go much much farther.

[23478ueyur_938223]

Have to agree -- why the hell burn Halo? Halo is a proven series.

KZ2 will hopefully be amazing as hell, but I also think the discussion should not become Halo v. Killzone flaming...

[PS360PCROCKS]

Dado...man GOW did not push the 360 to it's limits. Just wait for Gow2 and GOW3 those will look amazing. I get what your saying limitwise as Epic went strong on graphics and gameplay and made up with the lack of characters on screen with making them pretty damn smart and very hard to kill. Actually yea I do agree that GOW really did showcase what you will be seeing from the 360 for it's almost max potential. But the games will improve with optimization and time it's inevitable...but I mean GOW is a gorgeous showcase for next gen gaming. Anyways back on topic I never really read gaming news till I got my 360. Do companies normally do betas like this? Like I saw this and the first thing I thought about was Halo 3 because it was the first game I heard about doing a beta. Than I remembered everyone talking about Killzone was supposed to be the halo killer or whatever. I don't know I never cared about this news when those games were out. Anyways so this felt like an answer to Halo. Is it? Or are these betas normal?

[23478ueyur_938223]

I agree that GOW is a damn fine example of a next gen game. Let's hope Halo 3 and KZ2 are both great examples too -- I have faith in both. Killzone 1 was not a Halo killer, but it was a solid shooter with some noticeably bad glitches. Both Bungie and Guerrilla are putting hard work into their games though, so I think it could be an interesting turn out.

BTW I dunno about the beta question..sorry. I guess they just want the game test-run beforehand?

[DADO]

but the games will not get much better than GOW. There will be small improvements. I just think that the PS3 has more potential left in it than the 360 because of the cell and the developers still do not know how to develop on the PS3. Just my opinion.

[PlayStation360]

about your question with beta. It is very common for companies to have betas, started some time ago on PC's. And many consoles have been using beta trials before a games release for awhile now. Halo 3 is VERY popular, and when it did the beta trials, people started paying more attention to betas existence in the console world.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Wow thanks for all the feedback in a mature way guys I appreciate that. Dado yea I see what your saying with the cell. It's one hell of an interesting concept. and thank you playstation360 I never knew that.

[The Panther]

killzone beta is the halo 3 beta killer!!!

CONFIRMED.

[MoonDust]

Halo 3 Beta killer :)!
Mickey mouse killed, coming soon.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

hahaha Mickey Mouse butchered for KZPS3 like the goat for GoW3

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

i am so tired of you idiots saying that these graphics are to hard to be done by the ps3, but you idiots dont understand these are the graphics that are ps3s neck of the woods, get it there was a supercomputer built into the ps3 for a reason, to produce cgi ingame and later 4d in game since supercomputers are the only things capable of such a thing, if you only knew how strong ps3 hardware has the potential to be all together you would know then that killzone 2 graphics are nothing for the machine to handle you idiots believe that judging the graphics that are multiplatform and the games currently on the ps3 and even comparing them to game to a game that exceeded the 180s power limit in addition to pcs crysis, and putting those up against ps3s current games which motorstorm and F1 are the best graphics ive seen, i will explain again why killzone 2 although already surpassed the trailer that will be very very very far from comming close to maxing out this beast, you see first off the gpu in the ps3 which many of you say is outdated and weak, well first off let me show you idiots how powerful the rsx is here is an example; motorstorm's graphics received no help from the cell at all it was all rendered by the rsx itself and just to let you know there were no edge tools at the time, now the physics and the rest of the game used only 10-15% of 2 of the cells 9 processors, yeah thats right i didnt say cores i said processors, the difference between why the 180s cpu is insufficient in the long run with the ps3 and even the pcs is because cores can only help a games physics and frame rate and load times, but on the subject of processors a processor is a computer so in contrast ps3s cpu has 9 computers, that is why it is a supercomputer also each of these enable the cell to render its own graphics that is what supercomputers do and infact supercomputers are the very makers of movies that require cg not a regular computer this is why the cell enables cg/realtime synthesis, in the real world the cell can render the graphics for killzone on its own you see in the supercomputer realm things are different than in the pc and console realm, many super computers specs arent even that high but the funny thing is that they can render graphics off the scale of any thing on a console or pc have by far but that will no longer be the case for the ps3, now the reason why even after KILLZONE wont even come close to maxing out the cell or the rsx especially in the merger, the thing that will truely make ps3 easily pierce the 4d era truely hard is that normal supercomputers only use the supercomputer itself but the sony exects went a step further than that, sony decided to include a mega gpu now the reason why ps3 aint ever going to max out is because of this, since the ps3 has processors and not cores when it comes to the relationship of cpus and gpus the traditional way, well the ps3 works a little different while in normal supercomputers there are no gpus because truely the supercomputer is powerful enough itself to produce 4d graphics, but there is a possibility to add a gpu this is what the synthesis is for so the thing is whereas the 180 and other pcs have the cpu and gpu the thing works different with the ps3 no matter how weak you believe the rsx is even if it was consider this:

base ps3 hardware 2.18 tflops

-1 rsx
-1 cell supercomputer

this changes in an inconceivable way when the two are merged

9 seperate processors merged with 1 rsx=9 rsx gpus distributed equally across 9 seperate processors running at 3.2ghz, to tell you the truth this is the thing that sony is so confident about and is the reason why sony called the 360 you call it a 180, and also the reason why phil harrisson said no one will ever max out the ps3, he was really being nice he couldve been even more realistic and said no one will ever come close to maxing out the ps3, one other bumber is that some kind of way the genious builders of the ps3 made it in the design that during the ps3s lifecycle the machine gains power this is one more reason why the lifecycle is far more than the 10 years that phil harisson stated, one other thing that the ps3 has that will make the thing so updated all the time when compared to hollywood movies and even past those movies because as i said the ps3 has something that super computers dont gat and that is a gpu, is blue ray this format is still new and past new it aint even time for this format in the ps3 games yet that is why i really know that the killzone title wont even come close to maxing out the ps3.

plus there are many tech demos that were made even before the ps3 was finalized, and while the ps3 was only a prototype that will show you that the ps3 is so well capable of these graphics, so please those of you that believe that the motorstorm game didnt match the target render it couldve easily surpassed it, the thing is that think about it to make a game at cg, holywood movie level and certainly b3yond movie level that will cost you some serious movie money, that wasnt the case with the motorstorm title, the thing is they only used the rsx the graphics alone couldve been done with the rsx without the cell, but it wouldve been achieved alot easier with the help of cell, and also there was no edge tools as stated earlier, the budget of the game was tiny, but will be different in motorstorm 2, small developement team usually is much higher than that to make a cg trailer let alone a game with cg/realtime synthesis, rushed, to much concentrating on things other than graphics like:

-physics(sorta even surpassed the trailer although only using 10-15% of 2 of the cells 9 processors)

-online(who ever knew there would be an online)

-to many cars on the screen compared to the original trailer(original trailer contained about 4 or 5 cars, im sure if they had actually aimed for the target render they couldve put more vehicles than that in the game.

you know what i think i know some things that sony is waiting for to really start releasing the true innards of the ps3 here are some:

1. rumble: why bring out graphics b3yond anything ever and make graphics orginally only availible in cutscenes and movies, and not have the use of rumble, that would be utterly rediculous really why have the game partially realistic or incredibly realistic, but yet have part of it unrealistic, my idea would be to feel out the graphics truely i am willing to wait for rumble.

2. 180 fans and microsoft: sony is going to let you really believe that your machine stands a shadow of a chance, until e3 that is that will be the unleashing, to bad after gow what will the 180 have to offer nothing else graphically that game took 105% of the 180 if the 180 went any further than that you would surely have rings of death more often or maybe just death.

3. developers: only guerilla games, square enix, kojima, the developers of eight days and a couple of others are and have been willing to invest ??,???,??? dollars into a game on the ps3 this early in the machines life cycle, but the thing is if they invest this much money into the ps3 this early then i truely do believe they know the machine is capable of even much greater things than even what they are making.

and for those of you that do not believe that gow maxed out your little 180 just go check out kevins posts he has extremelly valid reasons why the game pushed the system over its limits.

toodles folks, and happy ps3 day it will be come e3 see ya

[PS360PCROCKS]

Holy novel. I won't even attempt to read that monstrosity. Espescially since it begins with "I am so tired of you idiots"

[jwatt]

You don't have to get so bent out of shape, I'm pretty sure Killzone is going to come out looking nice. They said that in the demo shown for Killzone that the animations looked nice.

[Texas GMR]

...yada-yada-yada, BS.

[sak500]

I think he's the same AH kevin with another a/c. I already ignored him i guess will do the same with this idiot.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

you have way too much free time, go out, relax, breath the fresh air and kick some puppy

[Odion]

What i honestly hope for KZ2 is that its not named the Halo killer but that its a great shooter that sony fans like, thus making it harder to start flame wars.

To the guy who wrote the novel, i don't know if you know this but the 360 CPU has over half of what the PS3 has so its not this uber god. Also there is NO WAY to show 4D because the 4 dimension is time.

One last thing again i don't think Gears of War is going to be the end all of 360 graphics if u look at the best looking PS2 game in the first year and put that up against something like God of War 2, no one would say its possible.

[jwatt]

but the 360 is a whole lot easier to develope for than the ps2 but your right the graphics will improve but I don't think it will be alot.

[DADO]

I AGREE

[Siesser]

I'm not trying to disagree with your post or anything, just to clarify a commone mis-conception. I think (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the 4-D comment was made in reference to sound being an added dimension to gameplay. 3-D graphics plus enhanced, hi-def, calculated sound.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

give me a flocking break, the whole potential of xbox 360 unlocked in just about a year? woooow! go ahead and have your flocking dreams, and if it becomes true, you probably have to pay 1000 bucks for your next ps with pay for advanced features online service

flock monopoly(ms included)

[candystop]

There's way to much pressure on these developers with all of the Halo comparison crap so let's just see what they can do and hope for the best! I can't even imagine how much pressure these guys are under and it makes me kind of feel sad for them! We can feud over Sony and MS all day but let's at least have a little respect and give developers a chance to show us something before we judge it!

[btkadams]

i want to see footage lol. why are they talking about a beta when we dont know a single thing about the game. we havent even seen any pictures or footage yet.

[ps360]

thanks for the intelligent comment about the 4D tidbit of time.
Bubbles for you!!!!!!!!!

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

the cpu in the 180 aint nothing near a scpu so by half you surely mean the 360 comming out in 2010

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

4d means fourth dimentional graphics, just like 3d meant 3 dimentional graphics, and we will see what is bs, and for the idiots that say that we havent even seen the game you will have a heart attack when you do,dont cry when you see the game, just go smoke meth

[Maddens Raiders]

You smoke meth, right? Just say no. At least to that.

[techie]

there's no such thing as "4dimensional graphics" lol. We don't even have 3dimensional graphics. We watch everything on 2d screens...

4d. Perhaps using the eye camera to perform operations?

120fps. Eye toy is 120fps :)

[Maddens Raiders]

bigger and bolder than Halo 3 and will rival the opening of HOME.imo
KILLZONE = flagship title. Pensions ride on this game. Make no mistake about it. I might feel sorry for SNE if it sux, but I'd bet against it.

[Sevir04]

and Now a KZ this is freakin great.. and it's a public one.. i hope they do it by mean of purchase, like what MS did with halo.. that would be a greaqt way to rake in some quick software sales and equally amount of hardware to boot.. considering that just about everyone who has seen the Trailer is hot under the collar and want to see what this game looks like.. i'm hoping that this is so because i enjoyed the first killzone it was a substantial shooter with a great story, just wasn't massly appreciated or recognized.. ^^ i know that Sony and GG are working hard to make sure that this game lives up to it's hype.. cant wait till July. KZ beta great news and Good Find Deep. a bubble for you

[LoveHateTragedy]

and not only select exclusive members to be on the Killzone Beta (for the closed beta at least) and then allow people to buy into it (Open Beta) by packaging it with a released game -> Warhawk would be perfect.

I recently beat Liberation and play the original KZ from time to time (not as much as Halo 2, but enough), and I have to say that the team at Guerrilla Games definitely has the ability to reach their lofty goals. When it comes strictly to Single-player mode, my friends and I agree that KZ wins top honors, even when compared to campaign modes from rival FPS franchises. It had its share of physics-related bugs, but it was very intense and atmospheric. The quality of the AI still surprises me to this day, and can kill with startling efficiency, especially in Multiplayer.

Sony is betting a significant chunk of the PS3's lively-hood on this single title, and that's the reason they do not want to show it to anyone. They know that there's a lot of risk involved with showing your top titles to rivals like Microsoft, as well as showing something too early. For example, even though Too Human is definitely improved from the original E3 Demo, we still have the first impression of TH ingrained into our skulls.

While I like to argue with others over technical knowledge and console specs, I love it even more when a single screenshot or clip can say more than any amount of numbers or words can. Why? Because things like inter-core bandwidth, local storage, and SIMD aren't understandable to the general public. While people are getting the hint that PS3 wins in sheer power, it hasn't demonstrated enough of that power yet. It needs titles that make journalists and casual gamers alike say "Holy F*cking Christ", and (thankfully) the titles capable of doing this aren't very far off at the moment.

Look forward to Gamers Day for some early hints, and E3 for the full blowout. For every impressive Playstation title that's been revealed to us, there's about two or three that haven't even been publicly announced. Anyone wonder what Zipper Interactive or Sucker Punch have been doing the past two years? . . . Just checking.

[Babylonian]

Hope it will be great. But just don't overhype it too much people. And don't call it a "Halo killer", it will be a worthy game on it's own.

[TheMART]

"Today, Seb “motherH” Downie of Guerrilla Games confirmed that there would be a public beta for Killzone on the PS3. When, is the big mystery."

Trying to copy Halo 3 Beta Sony? (like the Sony fanboys always says MS is copying Sony... RIGHT. Which had a good online service first? Right, MS.)

So 'when is the big mistery'

I guess its coming out in 2015 on the PS4, because what have we seen since E3 SPRING 2005, that's over 2 years ago of Killzone? Nothing. Great. Sounds almost like a Warhawk story

@ Babylonian (below) - geitenneukert

You need glasses. Pissing over Sony is something different then a PS2. Plus a better idea is to make a big brown dump on the PS3. Oh wait, that would be too much of an honour for it

@ Babylonian again

Hey zoon van een hoer die z'n broertje z'n hol uit loopt te wonen iedere dag, met een geestelijk gehandicapte als vader

Clearly only mental people buy a PS3. Enjoy the online play with retards

[Babylonian]

Hey I think your in the wrong section, this is the PS3 section. The mentally retarded sh!t for brain section is one click ahead.

There are probably 5 reasons why you felt to comment:
1. Your an asscrack
2. Your a d!ckface
3. Your'e an inbred
4. You eat trough your butthole and crap out of your mouth
5. Your jealous and you want to disregard the game as you can't stand that it's gathering quite the attention of many people

Ow and nice avatar btw: http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

@ Kankerhoer met een aidsinfectie above

It WAS you wasn't it, how was the little electrocution. I bet you can't reproduce anymore, that's only for the better cause now you can leave your sister alone.

As advice, it's better not to take a dump on the PS3 cause you never know what will happen, maybe this time you will explode internally.

[THC PRITCHARD]

First of all
Mart go take a p*ss on you-re x box 360 before my ps3 dose
and do us all a favor.

This is Good Halo 3 Beta Vs Killzone Beta
Shows what a real Next Gen war is going to be about

U never no Halo 3 may still come on top
or Killzone May manage to pass it and Lets just wait and see yeah

[Pika-pie]

Why bother feeding the troll, obviously hes an attention seeker who is thinking hes fighting a war which makes no sense.

The only reason he feels he has to comment on every PS3 article is because he knows the PS3 is a huge threat, he knows this and for some reason hes scared of it. He knows the 360 has been outclassed and the further it goes down the harder he will fight. So dont fight back, just pity him.

[THE_JUDGE]

Mart, you should get laid or something. Did you believe that your in the Fable game and your parents were killed by Sony and now you must seek revenge on them by trashing the company on the internet?? Just shut up and go away. Back to the beta, sign me up, I'm all in. This game looks crazy. They've had enough time to work on it so it better live up!

[Babylonian]

"Hey zoon van een hoer die z'n broertje z'n hol uit loopt te wonen iedere dag, met een geestelijk gehandicapte als vader"

Now I don't have to know your personal situation at home, you must clearly think I'm a shrink. Go get help man, cause that is definantly not healthy.

[Bathyj]

4D doesn't exists. Its a marketing term used to hype a game console. ei. advertising.

Plotting a point in space is done along 3 dimensions, X,Y and Z. Or up/down, left/right, in/out. There is no 4th dimension or axis.

If you're using the word dimension in a different sense, as in, Adding a cello to Creed would bring another dimension to their music, thats different. But when representing objects by use of graphics which are made of plotted points in space there are only 3Dimensions.

Of course Stephen Hawkins might disagree with me.

[Maddens Raiders]

waking up Marty? Good start. But no they're not "trying" to copy Halo 3 Beta Marty, they're copying MS's use of electricity. You know just like they copied MS's use of controllers?

--"Which had a good online service first? Right, MS'--. What!? Are you saying that SNE has a "good" online service now? Marty we know deep down inside, this game makes your Dutch a$$ proud as can be right? You know your brothers in Amsterdam are making a "true - KiLLer - app" right?
Yeah, don't be too shy -- now quit drooling over the PS3 and just go get one dude...Come jump on the *free online superhighway! =]

[jay2]

Awsome find, I'll be in 100% defferently.

[techie]

Public beta for KZ2 not a good idea...shouldn't be a beta like Halo or HOME. Unless they give us a tonne of media of the game coming close to the trailer...because the beta wont look like it.

[BrotherSic]

agreed (Sodslawgy here, changed my name to my gamertag)

However i dont think it would be too difficult to make the graphics really good on 2 or 3 multiplayer maps.

its a shame that this game will be totally judged in comparison to a CGI trailier.

[Maldread]

yeah i agree, it should be a closed one. They will probably show a cool trailer at E3, and then say you can play for yourselves on...(the date they come up with), and in the beta it won`t look as good, leading to a meltdown of complaints on this page hehe.

That said it would be nice to see someone play it at last.

[kingboy]

i hope it wouldn`t be reserve only for our friends in the U.S

[FirstknighT]

Please keep Halo out of this thread. Halo is one of the best FPS ever created. Killzone is one of the worst. Check the rankings and you will see the truth. Halo 3 will destroy anything that Sony can offer for years to come. Be jealous sony boys.

[Lex Luthor]

Thank you, when will people realise that killzone along with the getaway are 2 of the most retaarded pieces of sh!t in history. Like comparing bruce lee the game with god of war.

[xfrgtr]

IMO you're stuck in the past, such as perhaps year 2000. FirstknighT youre the one being jealous right know I feel sorry for you

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Hey PS3 fans why does the Halo beta look better than everything on the PS3 so far? I mean thats pretty sad if a beta looks better then the best PS3 game.

Just look at the E3 trailer of Killzone 2, man what beautiful graphics (oh wait a minute I forgot that was a lie)

[jwatt]

Killzone could come out looking better than Halo 3, you never know.

[San anto]

hmmmm looking at the beta most games on ps3 r lookin better

[alsef07]

IT WAS TIME, finally gonna be able to see what this hype is all about

[solidt12]

hey PS3 fans. We have Killzone coming and Haze which reminds me of Halo but better. So don't sweat the halo beta thing.

[Violater]

I wish everyone would shut the F**k up with the killzone halo comparisons.
They are both FPS and thats where it ends.

I'm no Halo fan, but even the dumbest person cannot deny the success of the Halo franchise and no matter how amazing Killzone is when its released it will not affect halo sales. It's a proven franchise we need to stop hating and stop trolling. play our games when they are eventually released and shut the f**k up

[solidt12]

I see people here are already making the mistake of calling Killzone beta the halo beta killer but it is not. Halo 3 is big business and competitions use it for there contest so it will rule hands down. Killzone will be a great game and will probably be better but not a killer. I really hope that next years competitions use Unreal Tournament since it will be on both Platforms and EPIC games is a better game developer than bungie in my opinion. Either way I can't wait for this game but don't set your hopes to high. I am sure we will like it more than Halo but Halo is to big of a monster to kill at this point.

[borncult]

Killzone 1 sucked balls, got 69% at Gamespot, so who gives a sh1t about Killzone2??? its like building hype over Daikatana2, piece of piss, Sony is pathetic.

[chelcho]

First Killzone was fair game, I agree. But Killzone: Liberation (PSP) got 83% at Gamespot and 9 at IGN - consider it.

[kamisama]

2 words Counter - Strike this is one of the most played FPS's and it still hasnt died down since it came out back in the day. This game defines FPS

"As of May 2006, Counter-Strike is still the most widely played online first-person shooter in the world. In 2002 there were over 30,000 populated Counter-Strike servers on the Internet (second place was Unreal Tournament with about 9,800). In 2004, GameSpy statistics showed over 85,000 players simultaneously playing Counter-Strike at any point in time, and in 2006, Steam regularly shows over 200,000 players for Counter-Strike[1] (this includes Counter-Strike: Source, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero and Counter-Strike). According to statistics gathered by Valve's content-delivery platform, Steam, these players collectively contribute to over 6.177 billion minutes of playing time each month, as of February 5, 2007[1], solidifying its position as the most popular online first-person shooter."

valve is thinking about making counter - strike 2 wich i believe will be one of the most hyped games when this is confirmed.

[sak500]

Can't wait for the beta demo...Ooops wrong thread its killzone beta not H3.

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

the downfall of you and nutsoft will be the underestimation of the ps3 and like i said the killzone type graphics are the type of graphics that the ps3 is made for not your weak multiplatform titles that dont challenge the ps3, what dont you get go check out railfan on ps3 check it out on youtube and you'll see sony didnt lie about this machine, like i said also motorstorm only used 10-15% of 2 of the cells 9 processors and all the graphics rendering was done by the rsx, no help from cell but for physics and frame rate, like i said no edge tools werent present at the time of ps3 release and also, the budget of the game was no where near the budget of killzone, all of you will look so dumb just like a meth smoker, and also 4d is ALOT closer than you believe as i said supercomputers have already acheived it, but as i said befor the ps3 goes further than supercomputers, so 4d is past possible on the ps3, dont be mad because your 180 can only get to 3.2d at most and that was glitches of ware, keep on believing that the game wont look as good as the trailer but the funny thing is that the thing is your not sure of youselves as to the game looking like the trailer you are really shaking in your boots of how much better the game will look than the trailer, and you will be in tears come e3 when they show that game and potentially more than that for the ps3 that will go even B3yond the killzone title then even afterwards you will try to say that some way some how the 180 can do the graphics to(in a cutscene maybe) but the thing is that the only way that the nutsoft has a chance of equalling or even comming close to equalling the ps3 is to release the next gen weakbox early instead of 2010, then you and nutsoft will be crying, because as i said this killzone wont be the tip of the iceburg for the ps3. now give it up and go smoke meth

[sloth4urluv]

720P

Resistance = PS3 Exclusive = 720P = WTF Not 1080P
= Not a super computer

[Maddens Raiders]

@#47..................
what exactly is a piece of piss sir? Ok nvrmnd. You are stuck in a circle of hate and ignorance which is really disturbing since this wonderful combination usually leads to unecessary conflicts and bad decision making. Just saying that I hope you don't live your entire life this way -- if so, you're in for a rude awakening. a/w... Judging by your comments it's clear that you're hung up on the "mighty" Gamespot's rankings of KZ1 or maybe you just like spewing out review scores when it frames your hateful, and feable statments. Despite the fact that you base your decision making about the voracity of a game by reviewers impressions, I can rest pretty assured that you've NEVER played the original game and therefore, need to seal your lips.

If you take the time to look at the Gamespot reader's opinion / scores (if you care so passionately about such things) you will see that a good number of users (you know people that have played it) give it a nearly 8.5 in review. This from a game that was released in 2004 and worked it's way to Greatest Hit status by selling no less than the 400,000 requisite and being drowned out by MS's Halo and a plethora of other really good PS2 titles @ the time.

The dynamics of this battle with Halo have changed now. Both are on equal footing in terms of GPU power now and the MS camp won't have the luxury of just burning the PS camp because of the inequities the PS2 had against the XBox. No, now both are being designed with a similar chassis and engine on their respective machines. KILLZONE was a great cult hit on the PS2 and those that played it know that. I went on last night for the first time in a long time and still saw a good amount of people on, and on GameBattles. Heh, and even battled it out with the MOG clan in the Southern Hills (..and Lost~!).

With the focus really being on quality visuals and gameplay SNE has never been on this much equal footing when it comes to competing with a MS shooter like Halo. Everyone knows that Halo is something to be respected and I believe the good guys at Guerilla understand this, are rightfully fearful of the challenge, but with the help from SNE -- are really aiming to bring people something that will make us stop and if nothing else, say "ooooh....aaaahhhhhh look at that..."

Phil Harrison also told your trusty GAMESPOT that, ".......he wouldn't show the game until it's ready to exceed expectations, adding that it won't be seen until next year. He also acknowledged the high bar set for the game by the E3 preview, adding that "some elements already exceed the trailer." http://www.gamespot.com/ps3...

Please let the game come before judging it by a previous title in the series which was met with mixed reviews on an older platform. Think about it first mate, think about the system, it's power and how long they've worked on it and to keep it under wraps. I agree with Deep and wish they wouldn't beta the thing, [keep it black all the way] but oh well. Forget the good 'ol PS2 version that you despise so much and then get ready to KILL in the KILLZONE, PS3 style. KILLZONE will be the PS3's first GOW and maybe even better as far as I can read between the lines. As I've said before if this project is not 85% of the target render then it's a failure. If it's 90% or higher then possibly GOTY.

Cheers

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

Although the last post is in defense of the ps3 i could dissagree on you with several little remarks you made, and you doubt the ps3, well id say the game will be 110% of the trailer, the only way GOW can even come close to killzone is in a cutscene that is all. Have faith in the mega computer

[Vadim]

This is completely off subject but is there a chance Gears of War will come to ps3? that would be sweet :)

[SIX]

was a joint MS and Epic project, so it's probably unlikely. That's not to say that Cliff Bazin...........or whatever his name is can't create something new but similar to Gears for the PS3. However, that's probably unlikely since he's probably going to be busy doing sequels for the rest of his life.

[The BS Police]

Halo is in a league of it's own, Killzone has a diffirent style compared to Halo.

You cannot compare either of them.

[SIX]

I can't wait for Killzone. My feeling is that it will be a system seller.

[low_thepunisher]

this game looks sick...i hope i can get a beta invite somehow...and also for warhawk

[low_thepunisher]

ive also heard this game being compared to halo 3

[The BS Police]

Killzone 1 was compared to Halo 1 and 2, and it disapointed alot of people.

[zonetrooper5]

I really can't wait to play the Halo 3 Beta and I really want to play the Killzone 2 Beta.

[MetalProxy]

Bring on the demo, Iam here waiting. Its going to be a good year.

[lil bush]

well lets hope the beta comes out soon cause i sure would like to play

[FullyLoaded420]

I think Killzone2 should worry about beating its own "in game footage"...as promised, or as showed back in E3.....before even talking about HALO 3.

nuff said!!

[fenderputty]

It's a beta announcment. Mart and the rest of your xbot trolls need to get a freaking life. Sony fanboys calling this game a halo killer need to pull their heads out their arsses too.

I can't wait to see stuff about this super secretive game. I have a feeling it's going to blow me away. I'm a little sceptical but, I can hope.

[timmyp53]

i guess n4g is very social but not in a good way.

[kevin]

as i have said before underestimating this machine in trying to compare the trailer to the games currently out is usless those games didnt have the money to reach this level of visuals, and you probably think the same because of motorstorm well motorstorm had a small budget as stated earlier, how many time will i have to explain this weak minded children on meth, and to the one that said that they need to concentrate on surpassing the original trailer in game just know that these are the true visuals that the ps3 is built to do, also now that the trailer is already been surpassed which aint even the tip of the iceburg for the ps3, i would stop worry about killzone 2 and whats comming next for the ps3, but you will see at e3, oh and i have a question why do so many skeptics and 180 fans post behind me, i have way to much information and facts, all you have is trash or a thought of discouragement to the ones that know and believe in the ps3 your lives are all really sad ya know but who can blame you i would want to discourage someone to if i knew that the machine on the other side and the opposing force was weeks or even few months away from blowing away my machine, so keep bringing up that dried up, used up excuse that sony lies, not this time buddies there is already way to much shown to tell me that they lied actually the machine has shown me that things far greater than the trailer have been revealed, thats why the theme for the ps3 is PLAY B3YOND, and why phil harrisson said no one will ever max out the ps3, in my previous post you can learn much young meth doers check them out you certainly need them to help your weak minds, but i will do my best to help you, someone else is sure to post behind me but the thing is that i have too many facts that he cant compete with, the people that post behind me are the ones in need of my knowledge, but i am willing to help the present meth doers that posted before me and also the future meth doers behind me, now one thing of advice to the ones that believe that the killzone 2 trailer wont be surpassed you can always pray that there were no supercomputer inside the ps3, but in all sympathy for all of you miracles do happen, det genie can grant a wish to some kind of way take out sonys master plan that built into the ps3 and stop the machine from achieving the 4d era and digging deeper into the 4d era, fairy lands do exist somewhere; they can help your dreams of destroying what is iminnent come true, maybe. For all of you a happy meth day for all of you

[FullyLoaded420]

"I am VERY retarted, I dont know how to use commas and end sentences the proper way....My PS3 sucks and i hate all of you for showing me that!!

PLAY B3YOND= JUST WAIT!!

[kevin]

slothface what is that supposed to mean as i recall resistance was a launch title, and do you honestly know how many people were on screen, and also do you know that the game only tickled the ps3 yes the game only used 10-15% of 3 of the cells 9 processors, and for you that believe that resistance was something that could be done without a supercomputer here is a tech demo for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

also did you know that the budget for this game was also very low and also did you know that the game was rushed,
also did you know there was know EDGE tools at the time,
also did you know that the graphics were again only using the rsx,
also did you know this was a game not aiming for the target render or the true graphics cutscene movie quality/realtime synthesis that the ps3 was built for man please your right though the ps3 as a whole aint a supercomputer it is B3YOND that so get it right the next time.

oh and go smoke some more meth to it makes you sound like your real self

for the one that said halo 3 looks better than anything that ps3 has uh you must have to be talking about the CGI openning trailer of Halo 3 thats the only thing that i see that does although in a little time ps3 games realtime will end up looking like your CGI trailer for GAYLO 3 or should i say 2.5

and for the guy underneath me the last time they didnt have a budget like this one, nor supercomputer hardware, nor did they have a development team anywhere near 120 developers, they also didnt have the time frame to do the game in the way to make a big impact sorta rushed so that is something for you.

your right but we have seen a tech demo or some interviewers have and the tech demo for itself i havent heard anyone say it looks worse than gow or crysis, also there are tech demos for the ps3 back when ps3 wasnt even finalized, and was a prototype that make me even more confident that this game surpassing the trailer is basically an ease, also like i said go check railfan on youtube along with the other tech demos for ps3 and you will see this game is a cinch, and even as i said since this wont be the tip of the iceburg for the ps3, stop worrying about killzone 2 and start worrying about the next for ps3

the guy with the last post as i said that sony aint showing you the game for a reason, i mean why would they, you have talked so much trash about them since the gen first started and now you want them to show you the game then you buy the machine, sony will show you the game on there time, and also he said that he wont show the game until it has exceeded gamers expectations(meaning that this guy aint showing the game til the game surpasses the expectancy of those that believe the trailer is possible, not the ones that are unbelievers), and on the subject of the ones that say that ps3 aint doing 120fps uh how long has the ps3 been out, how many developers know how to use the ps3, how much money would it require to get that many frames, and how long would it take to polish up a game with that frame speed, get over yourself and trying to discourage the believers. Better yet go smoke some meth its better that way

also as i said the scpu inside the ps3 enables cg/realtime synthesis that is what sony built it into the ps3 for you keep saiying cg trailer it gets very annoying especially when cg is the rendering ps3 is built for but no worries in due time even the ps3 will outpace cg and movie renders so i wont bother worrying about your little assumption. Go back and do meth in the back yard, and go hit det weed to cause that is what is on ya brain that makes yall make these funny posts

actually the game will surpass the hype as you call it 10 fold, and that will be because of the breath of fresh air of not hearing your mouth on the ps3 sites anymore. now go smoke more meth

jodki and brain you are in the top 10 online that dont have brains, you have an empty head that is all

no games for ps3 huh, well you really need to go check wikipedia there are more games by alot being made for ps3 many of which will surpass the killzone 2 trailer. and for you go smoke meth

do you 180 fans really know how annoying you really are, you keep saying we base the game off of a cgi trailer, but sorry my friend that that cg that you keep mentioning is what sony built the ps3 to get rid of as i said before the ps3 has the very maker of the cg films built in it but the meth that you take makes you repeatedly keep posting the same lame post, "Its cg" and then in e3 when sony displays the game and it looks 115% of the trailer, i will just say i told you so, told you that this is the type of rendering ps3 is made for, but i know 180 fans are so sad they want to discorage us with that naked excuse, "its cg", and i will just keep teaching you ps3 is B3YOND a cg maker. And you will keep posting that same lame comment and i bet you wont ever come back to a ps3 site again after e3, as i stated before the real true game has surpassed the trailer, now what i would encourage you to do is stop worrying about the believers, stop worrying about the game, stop worrying about the so called cg graphics that you idiots dont realise that ps3 has a cg maker inside of it and two things that can carry it further than any hollywood movie, but you need to start worrying about what is comming out after killzone 2, thats all you need to know. go smoke more meth and keep posting funny comments

and ill state it again you can check out the tech demos made early before there was even a finallized ps3 while the ps3 was in prototype form, the ps3 had already been making realtime cg graphics go to youtube, but you idiots never give up with that cg excuse you idiots dont have the slightest idea of how sony built the ps3, you base your opinions on games already released, the games that are released are tickling the ps3, it is like when ss2 gohan was fighting cell, he just wasnt a challenge, keep on stating that lame excuse and while yes you will discourage some all wont be certainly not me, and to the one that said that killzone wont look better than GOW, uh which GOW you certainly mean the one comming out in 2010 alongside the 360, naw nevermind there will be another nearly year and a half delay and the game will only be a little better than the first in looks even in 2012

[Jdoki]

You can keep blasting out Sony hyperbole, and all that jazz about 'realtime synthesis'. It doesn't matter one bit if the game play is rubbish.

What I'm talking about is the pedigree of the developer. And that's something which is yet to be proved.

You can spout off about how they didn't have the time to make Killzone a good game; how they only had a small development team, excuses, excuses. The fact remains that Guerrilla have NEVER made a AAA game.

Look at the track record:

Killzone Liberation - Average
Killzone - Disappointing, very poor game
ShellShock: Nam '67 - Stinking pile of...

I really don't care if Killzone 2 ends up having the 'best grafix evar', if the game play sucks it doesn't matter one bit.

It's the same with Gears of War - massively overrated on account of the graphics.

I really hope Killzone 2 ends up being a great game and Guerrilla become stars of the Sony scene - but I'll state it again - I can't understand how the community/industry can get so hyped about a game from an unproven developer, based on nothing but a CGI tailer.

[Jdoki]

I really can't understand the hype around Killzone 2.

Even PlayStation fanboys would probably admit (through gritted teeth) that the original game was extremely disappointing; and we've seen nothing of the sequel except target renders.

Regardless of how great the graphics end up being how much hope can we really invest in a developer whose previous track record in FPS games is pretty awful (ShellShock: Nam '67 anyone?)

[VirusE]

we are on the exact same page! I was typing my reply and didnt see yours yet we basically said the same thing. Good to know i am not the only person with a brain on this forum. Guerrilla games has a proven track record of sucking.

[VirusE]

Am i the only ps3 owner who realizes that they havent even shown a screen shot of killzone 2 yet? Or what about the fact that the first game wasnt very good? The CG trailer was cool but that trailer was shown to us at the same time we were being told games would run at 1080p at 120fps (hyper definition as ken put it i do believe). Nothing that came out of the e3 that killzone was shown at has come true at this point, so why hold your breath for killzone 2? Killzone 2 will be the new perfect dark zero; while it will be a good game it cant possibliy live up to the hype. I just dont understand why this game is getting any press at all, the first one was an over hyped dud with a horrible frame rate. Why are we not hyping up god of war 3 or mgs or final fantasy or heavenly sword or if we are going to talk about games we know nothing about why not resistance 2 or god of war 4? The only thing we have to go off of for killzone 2 is the first game and going by killzone 1 it isnt looking so good. Guerrilla games has never even made a single good game, why would they start now people?

[Dogswithguns]

I cant wait!

[toughNAME]

there grasping at straws...
no games for ps3....so when one comes along that isnt TERRIBLE than it must be GOD

"killzone2 beta = halo 3 beta killer"
idiotsssss

[WilliamRLBaker]

Good cause all games specially online ones could and do benefit from public betas.

[Veryprettyboylovesth]

iI bet it still wont look better the G.O.W teehee XD CG killzone anyboy? lol

[techie]

What are you all chatting about (cant be bothered to read it)...since this news post is soo boring...im surprised anyone cares. Every game has a beta...and this one wont be public

[Sly]

Nah i didnt read the article either but once in awhile its still good to hear about these betas.