IGN: Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Review

IGN Writes: Minor complaints aside, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is an immensely satisfying action game. If you enjoy a good challenge it offers plenty of content to keep you happy. Beating the game will take a few days, but mastering the escalating difficulty levels could take weeks, or in my case, many months of enjoyable practice.

[shocky16]

The 360 version got a 8.7 from IGN.

[chaosatom]

look at this.

New version vs Old version
Presentation 8.0 vs 8.0
Graphics 8.0 vs 9.0
Sound 8.0 vs 8.0
Gameplay 8.5 vs 9.0
Lasting Appeal 8.5 vs 8.5

And I thought gameplay is the same, but I guess they were looking for new stuff.

[Homicide]

"The first Ninja Gaiden Sigma was an excellent upgrade to one of the best action games ever created. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 suffers from two problems, the first being that Ninja Gaiden 2 was a lesser game than the original. The second problem is that the additions just don't improve upon the original experience in any significant way. The playable women are pretty, but their missions are short. The multiplayer is a great idea, but ultimately not conducive to Ninja Gaiden's style of combat. And lastly, for a game that is based completely around brutal violence and life or death confrontation, removing the blood was a bad idea."

Looks like the new content isn't all that great.

[Rock Bottom]

The one year old enhanced port is still averaging at higher score than Halo:ODST...

[raztad]

@shocky

That just comes to show they overscored the xbox version. With all the complains they have, 8.4 sounds fair but then how can the inferior version score better than the superior?. Pretty stupid if you ask me and shows that there is not consistence across reviews/reviewers.

Talking about inconsistencies, its nice to see UC2 as the visual benchmark, it deserves it, but will that benchmark applied only to PS3 exclusive games? cause I dont understand how ODST got a 9/10, I guess it got pretty damn awesome visuals, UC2 close.

[shocky16]

I guess no matter how hard you try to polish it, a turd will always be a turd.

EDIT: I guess saying turd is harsh, it's just that NG2 was no where near as good as Black so in a way Sigma 1 is still the superior game to Sigma 2.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

i wish i could see a timed ps3 game go to 360 just to see how IGN score it

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@calis

i dont agree since 360 supposely a next gen console and suppose 2 be competition its right 2 compare the games

[SnuggleBandit]

@choasatom

ya and somehow halo:odst got a nine for graphics lmao

@below

hmm i guess that could explain why uncharted 2 got a 9.5/10.....if it was 360 exclusive it would have been like a 15/10 haha

[calis]

jesus christ, how dumb are you people.

SIGMA 2 is not scored against NG2 on the xbox, it is scored AGAINST other PS3 GAMES

Far out, it is not that damn difficult.

[PopEmUp]

you meant a turd that also on the 360? :P

[Lifendz]

The Bioshock effect will kick in. This is where a port of a year plus old game is released for full price with the justification of improved visuals and exclusive content. While that stuff is nice, it's not enough to compete with games like Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, etc.

Perfect price for this would've been 39.99 to 49.99. It's almost an impulse purchase at that point. But no matter, it'll be that price in a few months.

[Serjikal_Strike]

For any ps3 only owner....i played the demo and personaly think it deserves at least a 9...

getting my copy next tuesday...let the NGS2 trophy hunting begin!

[morganfell]

The game is supposed to be scored against a set of standards that exist regardless of other games. However, IGN like many other sites with a motivation score games based on the master of the moment.

If games were scored against other titles then Bioshock would have gotten a 3 for no co-op and no multiplayer when it first appeared. Wait, you can only downgrade Bioshock one it appeared on the PS3.

For all the criticism of Gamespot during the Gerstmann firing, IGN is no better.

[Dragun619]

I Agree with Calis, PS3 games are rated against the quality of other PS3 games and not their Xbox360 counterparts. Besides its still a good game.
But I shall wait til Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 gets a $30 price tag.

For now, I must save my money for Demon's Souls Deluxe Edition and Uncharted 2!

[calis]

"@calis

i dont agree since 360 supposely a next gen console and suppose 2 be competition its right 2 compare the games "

Wii is a next gen console (regardless if you consider it or not, it is), if the reviews are done how you say then the graphics on a Wii game would never go above 7 but they do, because the standards are set against other Wii games.

[calis]

"The game is supposed to be scored against a set of standards that exist regardless of other games. However, IGN like many other sites with a motivation score games based on the master of the moment."

Wrong.

Games are scored against games on that console. It's how IGN do it, email them and ask.
Regardless of your short sighted view, IGN works that way and it is a fair and comparable way.

---------------

morgan - I said you have a short sighted view. And you do, you are also unbelievably arrogant as you think your way is the correct way.

IGN absolutely do not compare games across consoles, my Wii comparison proves that as does their previous comments on the subject. You can ignore it all you want and live in your paranoid delusional world, you are nothing but a fanboy and a very annoying one, but it's the way reviews work.

@socrates - I know.

[morganfell]

No you are wrong. IGN themselves have stated in reviews what they use as a guide and it isn't other games on the platform. Look at the GTA IV review where they state why they award a 10. It is based on genre not platform. So you are wrong indeed.

Then again you can't read. I never stated what IGN uses. I stated what should be used. Such a reference has no regard to any site. So twice in one remark you are wrong.

[Socrates]

Exactly. It makes perfect sense why IGN and other sites do it that way. Don't mind morganfell, he is just another one of the tinfoil hat-wearing fanboys who think the entire world is in a plot against Sony.

[SiteNblog Defender]

And that expansion is getting better scores than the majority of PS3 exclusives.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Actually, morganfell, you're wrong. This exact question was answered on GameScoop about 2 and a half months ago or so. They rate games in comparison to genre, yes, but also against other games on the platform in question.

[GameGambits]

I thought they would end up being dead even to be honest.

Take into account when Ninja Gaiden 2 came out for 360 it was labeled as an exclusive. It had less stellar games at the time to be compared against. It also came out a good time for a release.

Sigma 2 is now an enhanced version of what a reviewer would already be familiar with, thus not as blown away by what happens. Since NG2 came out plenty of monster games have come out on both consoles, and more are on their way. Plus NG2 is now coming out with Uncharted 2 right around the corner(in the reviewers hands I bet in his spare time), and you've got Tokyo Game Show on the brain with buzz. They added new content, upped the resolution, took out the blood, and took out the shock and awe factor when it was just on 360 and first released.

It was to be expected to me for both to be very similar. Obviously if you haven't played NG2, then the better version for a new comer to get IS the PS3 version, UNLESS you really need the blood which is the staple of Ninja Gaiden(one of them anyway).

All in all people going flame war crazy in here need to focus on bigger fish to fry, because honestly this game is a rental for most and it was on 360 as well. If you want tons of blood and over the top violence grab God of War or Gears of War...they will satisfy your thirst.

[Rock Bottom]

Umm... lets see:

Is 84 greater than?

WipEout HD Fury 89
Demon's Souls 90
MLB 09: The Show 90
Killzone 2 91
inFAMOUS 85
Uncharted 2 (100+100+95)/3

No!

Well, at least it's greater than every 2009 360 exclusive, except for shadow complex.

[Ravage27]

1.it's a PS3-exclusive
2.it's not named Halo Gaiden Sigma 2
3.it's not a 360-exclusive
4.it doesn't have a faceless astronaut in it
5.IGN reviewing staff has completely lost it

[blind-reaper]

It is still a 1 year old game with a $60 price tag WTF did you expect a 9??? I think it is pretty fair. I might add that I loved Sigma so I am buying this one when it reaches $40 or less, right now my money is on Uncharted 2.

[swiftshot93]

Great to see a nice, clean debate here for once. I think the topic of reviews of ports are interesting, but ultimately I think that the reviews of these games should be on the merit of the game alone ignoring previous versions, as long as they werent on the same console.

[Bathyj]

So what you're saying is, going by the logic being put forward here, games are ranked compared to other games on the platform, not similar (or same) games on other consoles.

And apparently even though many sites will pretend both console are equal in power (be it theoretical or not) they are quite happy to measure PS3 games by a higher yardstick than Xbox, meaning a PS3 title has to show of more to get a 9 than an XB title does.

Lets extend this logic to multiplats.
This means a multiplat could be EXACTLY the same on both consoles. Frame rate, poly count, resolution, everything. Then it will automatically get a lower score on PS3 because according to those here, the PS3 version is judged against a higher standard. They're saying therefore, its good for an XBox game, but PS3 should be better because PS3 can do more.

I think you guys are actually right, I think this is how they think.
And its crap. Its wrong. The finished product is what should be judged, not the baggage someone carries for the console. PS3 and XB360 are in the same generation of hardware. They are direct competitors. You're telling me because PS3 is more advanced hardware it actually get marked down?

If 2 identical steaks are put before me, both juicy and delicious. One was cooked by a diner short order cook, one cooked by a 5 star chef, I dont mark down the one the chef cooked because he should have been able to do something better. I dont mark up the Diner cook because thats a really good effort for you guy. All I care about is how good the steak is and they get equal marks for equal quality.

[SiteNblog Defender]

Heavenly Sword
Haze
Lair
Folklore
Afrika
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Singstar

Just to name a couple.

[prowiew]

Ninja gaiden 1 is one of my favorite games of all times, but the sequel, meh. Didnt like it a bit.

[Socrates]

bathyj

Except PS3 games don't have a higher standard to live up to. You guys act so arrogant.

What this is, is that Sigma is a year old port that doesn't have anything too significant (according to the review) to distinguish it from the original. And yes, it is also going to be compared to games like Uncharted 2, because they are coming out around the same time. But this doesn't mean the PS3 has a higher standard of games in general.

[ThanatosDMC]

They took out the blood?! WTF???

[SnuggleBandit]

@ blindreaper

go read his post and tell me what game you think of?
Halo perhaps? same engine, same gameplay...two year old game basically

Does anyone think that Uncharted 2 deserves a 9.5 and halo Odst deserves a 9.0...look at the amount of improvement between the two games. And the amount of content (let alone the quality)is much greater in Uncharted 2 and that warrants a .5 difference?

Bottom line: Reviews are written by people trying to make money. Think about it.(this goes for both sides of the fence)

[Rock Bottom]

Do you seriously want me to start naming 360 exclusive with scores lower than 84? =)

Also, I find it ironic that in order to defend Halo:ODST(which is 360's biggest exclusive in 09) you're comparing it with two years old PS3 exclusives. :p

[Bathyj]

Socrates
I'm not arrogant, I was responding to what was said here.

And yes its a year old port, but its a year old IMPROVED port. Tell me one logical reason why an improved version of the same thing should get a lower score?

And so what if its a one year old game. If you havent played it before, its brand new. I keep hearing that if you didnt have all the maps from Halo 3, then HaloOD is a really good deal. What, is that not true anymore?

[Poopface the 2nd]

It is based on a 1+ year old game. Sure they added and improved things, but a majority of the content in the game is based around a game that is over a year old.

That said, Im a huge NG fan and I will be buying this version too even though I have owned ever NG game yet, including 2.

^^^above. The reason taht an improved year old port may get a lower score is just taht, its a year old. Believe it or not alot of people play on more than one system. And any game on any system loses some luster if a another version came out a year earlier, regardless of the improvements.

for example- On IGN, HL 2 on PC got a 9.7. The orange box for PC got a 9.5. Even though the orange box had alot of additions(portal, ep. 2) a majority of the content was old( hl 2, ep. 1, and TF2).

Also it may be someone different reviewing it. Alot of reviews for NG2 and sigma 2 will complain about the difficulty. Maybe the original reviewer of NG 2 embraced the difficulty more than the reviewer of sigma 2.

Im going to get it anyways, cause Ive owned ever NG game, and will enjoy this one.

Also-- regardless of what they compare it to ps3 game, 360 games whatever. The videogame industry keeps moving forward, and an improved year old port, is still a year old.

VVV-- hahahah guy below, NG 2/sigma doesnt suck. If you think it sucks why do you care what it got? 8.4 is far from sucking for an improved port of an old game.

[cmrbe]

I never knew that IGN rate PS3 games to other PS3 games. I guess this is why the rating standards are set higher for PS3 games. However i agree with Morgan and Bathyj. It is not right to do this.

In essence what IGN is doing then is punish PS3 devs for developing on the PS3. Why should PS3 devs efforts should be scored lower compare to comparative efforts of x360 devs?. Wouldn't this mean that we are right all along that x360 games get a free pass from the media and in this case IGN?.

Morganfell is right. There should be standards. Its the only way for people to have confidence in these rating systems. If not then people will wonder how many points reviwers deduct because its a PS3 game.

As for NGS. I never had much faith in it because the NG2 is just crap.

[I did not murder him]

That's because not every anti Sony website is trying to review NG2S so that they can lower its score.

Anti Halo/MSFT people conditioned the media about Halo Odst saying it's only a expansion of Halo 3 which at first was true! and in many ways still is when it comes to *Game Engine* and *story arc* but when the devs went ahead and developed a full game instead all the anti Halo brainwashing remained and was used as an excuse to lower its score lol

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

[DaTruth]

That's great! That means that whenever 360 fanboys throw review scores and metacritic at PS3 owners, we can say; "But that is a 360 9/10 which is like a PS3 7/10".

No 360 game is a AAA game by PS3 standards!

I'm glad we cleared that up!

[Bathyj]

Thats right DA Truth

Both versions of GTAIV has a meta score of 98.

Now this is not neccessarily my opinion, but going by the monkey logic in here if they scored the same it must be a better game on PS3 because if they were actually equal the PS3 version would have been marked down having been judged again the higher yardstick. By that rational, the fact the scores are the same mean PS3's version is better.

Thats right isn't it? I mean thats what they're saying, XB games get judged against XB hardware standard and PS3 likewise. If I'm wrong, wont someone please tell me.

Just be sure to bring logic as well as passion.

[MGSR THE HD VERSION]

well what do you guys expect.

....they fvckedup itagaki's dream.

taking out blood and replacing it with a purple mist.

they rewrote the damn thing, ryu was a lone dog and they messed it up by putting people in there that had nothing to with the original story.

it would be no different if someone took out the blood in MGS or Gears and started putting in extra characters. (altering it's original history)

[DaTruth]

Seriously, I'm okay with Uncharted 2 getting a 9 for graphics, if the standard is Crysis, But if Halo:ODST gets a 9, Uncharted 2 gets a 9.5 and Crysis gets a 10, that's a pretty strange grade curve there!

They should have an HD console standard by which they rate graphics! Because we say; "Those graphics are awesome.... for a console", but nobody says; "Those graphics are awesome.... for the 360, but for the PS3 they're meh".

Will Forza get a 10 and GT5 get a ten and Mariokart Wii get a ten in graphics! 360 fanboys will say; "See teh graphics are teh same", but Wii fanboys will not say something so stupid!

@MGSR THE SUB HD VERSION KOJIMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AND DISOWNS: I see your point there, that could definitely make the scoring difference, but the content and lasting appeal should be bumped up. But I'm not arguing this score, it could be justified for all I know.

[jack_burt0n]

Only one problem with this friendly debate is this will b the only review to get heat!?

Come on today there was a really good accurate review posted and 4 actual gamers (multiconsole too) posted their appreciation LOL we should be used to ps3 games getting panned by now for the stupidest of reasons dont give it heat.

[Rock Bottom]

bla bla bla...

[Prototype]

Who cares, still Day 1 for me

[CrazzyMan]

Especially, since NG2 there were not much slashers released.

New version vs Old version

Graphics 8.0 vs 9.0
So.. true HD resolution and no framerate drops after 1 year does not justifies a 9???

Gameplay 8.5 vs 9.0
So gameplay with Fixed camera became only worse? WTF?

Come on, this is CLEAR bias.

I just can`t justify such high scores for Halo ODST.
Unless you are halo fanboy, which there are around 10 mln. in the world.. i don`t know, how anyone can rate it above 8.
I lost all my trust in reviews. Latest ODST reviews are clearly biased.

I mean come on, 6 hours great side story of Halo 3, but that`s it. And it get what? 9???
Some expansion pack is having more value for a gamer, than games like Killzone 2 or Infamous?????

The ODST is the last straw. It`s official, you need to remove 1-2 points from x360 exclusives and add 1-2 points to ps3 exclusives to get the real score.

[I did not murder him]

Hitting Rock Bottom because of a game review? So you post some crybaby ass attack on Halo? Halo sells millions and pushes hardware I wouldn't mention that game. http://www.ilovewavs.com/Ef...

Wah Wah Wah...

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

So a bunch of you fanbois (you know who you are or go into the ODST review thread and compare here) complained about how Halo 3: ODST was an old game and didn't deserve an 8-9 rating. Mind you a score lower than its sibling, yet the very same people complain about how NG Sigma 2 got a lower score than NG2. The game adds some new content, but virtually unchanged game play with a little graphics boost over a year later.

Seems like a fair review to me. Although, personally I'm a Ninja Gaiden fan and do feel that taking away the blood partially ruins this game. Yet I would still score it higher, but I'm a biased fan of NG!!!

[Traveler]

I'm a huge fan of the PS3 and I absolutely love Uncharted 2, but I am starting to really get sick of people hating on Halo 3 ODST. Why do we gamers have to be such fanboys?

[calis]

"I think you guys are actually right, I think this is how they think.
And its crap. Its wrong. The finished product is what should be judged, not the baggage someone carries for the console. PS3 and XB360 are in the same generation of hardware. They are direct competitors. You're telling me because PS3 is more advanced hardware it actually get marked down?"

The finished product should be reviewed against what can be produced.
I mean, if you compare a 2009 Honda to a 2009 Ferrari, they are in this generation of hardware but the Ferrari is going to run/look/perform better.

And the PS3 version isn't being marked down, this is where the assumption fails, it is simply being marked against other PS3 versions where it doesn't stand up against the likes of Uncharted/Killzone etc, thus why it is getting a 'lower' score.

[Rock Bottom]

1- You can't hit rock bottom if you're already at rock bottom.
2- Where did I heard that before?
3- Wii play sells more, does that mean it's better?
4- About your previous post: You're the last one here who should talk about brainwashing.

Anyway, sorry for showing my fanboy side, I tend to do that whenever I'm in a bad mood/needs some sleep. =(

[I did not murder him]

http://www.wavsource.com/sn...

Eh ehe eheh e heh wah wah Haaayyylo halo

[7ero H3LL]

you know i think the ninja gaiden series is now going to hit the trash.

no help from itagaki, or a version of his game to reck.

we can all expect the next NG game to have lots of purple mist flying around and have lots of new characters that you know nothing about that either help or hurt you.

[lovestruck06]

i dont understand it makes complete sense what your saying i cant wrap my mind around why people can actually disagree with that. like come on are you that whipped by microsoft that you cant see the logic. like how can an amzing high quality game(uncharted 2 get the same or less score as a expansion with sub hd, sun par, regurgetaed game(halo 3 odst). like honestly. sony fan boys arent imagining that theyres a conspiracy against sony there is its plain and simple with examples like halo 3 odst getting a 9 then uncharted 2 getting a nine simple minded people actually think it means theyre equal games. gamers, fanboys all compare 360 vs ps3, so it gets confusing when game reviewers dont. is that frickin hard to understand.

oh yeah i did not murder him ur a tool u shouldnt be allowed to comment on this site. microsofts got a choke chain around ur neck. halo sells millions and pushes consoles cuz just means theyres still alotta stupid people out they that havent realized that ur creating a vicious cycle and you as xbox fans are feeding microsofts greed. its fine stick with a brand that rules the gaming world with deep pockets. bribing developers that once where exclusive to the ps brand before xbox even existed ( splintercell conviction) gta 5 dlc. all that money in bribing has to come back some how and it does by screwing u gamers over by paying 200 dollars 120gb hdd when u can buy a 1000gb hdd for the ps3, or 100 dollar wirelese add on 40 dollar play and charge kit or frickin batteries, rather than just find usb camera chord for the ps3 like 5 bucks. 76 dollar headsets. it makes me sick.hd dvd add on that is instinct but who cares lets support them anyways they have galo and they still exclusives from sony and bribe game developers to make games better on theyre console (multiplats)hah exclusives we all know who wins that. charges you for online almost forgot about that.you all pay for microsofts bs somehow i for one am not paying for it again.

microsoft really grinds my gears they represent everything thats sh*tty with the gaming world today. maybe this will open your eyes microsoft is = to politicians......aslong as the 360 exist and microsofts bribery multiplat games will never look as good as uncharted 2, god of war 3, gt5 and so on in the same year of course. i wish sony had every exclusive i for sure would love to play gta 6 that fills a 50gb blu ray disc, rather than 9gb cuz of the 360...alotta game developers seem to cater to microsoft cuz they can make sub par games a 360 fans will eat them up. less work for them and just as much money for them if not more if u count the bribes shame, shame.......what rant you xbots really pissed me off this time disagreeing with someone that is abviously a million smarter than urselves. can anyone say phantom disagrees......

[Jamegohanssj5]

This is bs honestly. This game shouldn't have gotten anything below a damn 9.0.

I don't care as it's still my GOTY. I mean the GOTY.

TGSI

[mastiffchild]

Doesn't make sense that they seem to have knocked points off even though the removal of the(frankly OTT and distracting gore)blood and fixing of the camera cannot help but have made the game better.

I also think it's a bit better looking so to see they feel the 360 game was better graphically makes little sense. Oh, well, just a puzzling review and, imo, as it hasn'tbeen on PS3 before should have been reviewed on it's own merits anyway rather than in the confusing semi comparison to the 360 game(which he fails to emtnion anything about except the bits he liked)-just not a very good review for me.

[dreamcast]

WTF, this is a great score. You guys are trippin'.

[Christopher]

Why don't they review multiplatform games on all consoles (PC, 360, PS3)? They don't, they review one of the console versions and put that score out for all consoles.

That right there disproves that they score based on console.

They can't take a single multiplayer game, play it on the 360, score it the same across all platforms, and consider that equal across all. They'd have to play it on each console and score them individually.

I get what you guys are trying to say, but the logic just doesn't work out at all. There are obviously going to be comparisons between a version of the game on one console versus another, especially a year after the original release on one console. If you honestly believe that they don't or shouldn't take into consideration the original game in reviewing the port, then you're not really getting it.

Furthermore, it doesn't matter if they did or didn't, fanboys will still use these damn numbers to prove their idiotic bias.

[ShadowCK]

This was expected.

[poopface1]

the splinter cell series started on the original xbox, it was never exclusive to the PS. PS stole it from xbox.

[lephunk]

and NG2 got 8.7 on Xbox and 8.4 on PS3... would that mean the scoring curve is higher on the PS3?

usually when the curve is higher, that means the overall quality is higher...

so what IGN is trying to say is that PS3 has higher quality games overall... and all this time we thought you were biased...

Samsonite! man we were WAY off!

[FACTUAL evidence]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[jib]

here we go again. conspiracy theories and people b1tching about reviews

chill out. 8.4 is a good score

[Alcon Caper]

"The second problem is that the additions just don't improve upon the original experience in any significant way. The playable women are pretty, but their missions are short. The multiplayer is a great idea, but ultimately not conducive to Ninja Gaiden's style of combat. And lastly, for a game that is based completely around brutal violence and life or death confrontation, removing the blood was a bad idea."

[Stationfan]

isnt the ps3 version supposed to be a better more polished version, im confused.

[shocky16]

But not enough content to justify buying it for $60 if you already own the 360 version, however if you haven't played the 360 version then this is definitely a worthwhile purchase.

[labaronx]

which was the main reason for porting it.....

[The Great Melon]

Regardless of the values of the scores, you could say that even though the graphics are improved, the graphics are a year old now. There are better things out now that deserve the higher scores. Reviews are only an accurate (I wish) picture of the product WHEN it is released. Looking at reviews for 4 year old games may have high graphics marks, but bar has been raised and that score is no longer as meaningful.

[Chubear]

That's some bull.

Ok, how come IGN didn't scrap off marks for the Wii version of RE4 that came out years after the PS2 version and literally did nothing but add waggle controls?

Oh please, if it's not more and more glaringly obvious sites like IGN are just playing the community like a violin then you're hopeless. Ain no way in hell a version of a game comes out a year later with more features and better graphics and framerate and gets marks deducted for that fact alone. That's BS.

Gawd, ever industry MS enters they soil to the core.

[SaberEdge]

Chubear, you're delusional. Seriously, go get some help.

[DaTruth]

But Halo:ODST still gets a nine for graphics, with 3yr old graphics. Why does one year with one years worth of graphical upgrades, ruin it!

You would be hard pressed to find any 360 games that have better graphics than 3 yrs ago!

[The Great Melon]

I know there are some flaws with that statement. Some things get hyped up a little, but looking at Ninja Gaiden's score I see nothing really wrong with it when I look at the game. Haven't seen ODST yet, but you are probably right that the graphics marks were too high. That's why I said I wish in my comment above. Comparing just Ninja Gaiden 2 to Sigma 2 the review feels about right, except for gameplay.

[lonestarmt]

what does graphics have to do with it? I mean look at the great 2d games like disgea or muramasa. Now, its totally unfair to rate the graphics down compared to the 360 verison saying uncharted 2 had better, when NG2 was out on the 360 uncharted 1 still had better graphics a year ago and they say nothing and uncharted 2 even isn't released yet. The game has two new playable characters, new co-op multiplayer, new stages new bosses, smoother run time, better camera, so there is zero reason why it shouldn't get a better score. It might not be worth the time for someone who has already bought it, but if you always wanted to have NG2, NGS2 is the way to go.

[The Great Melon]

I was trying to give a justification for the graphics portion of the score that seems to cause the most complaints. I agree the game should have probably scored overall better. I can't see why the gameplay went down.

Regardless, I really don't care much about the scores. To me the score after the decimal point is all fluff. I just bought the NG2 a few days ago really cheaply, but I will likely get NGS2 eventually also because I think it will be the better version.

I should stay out of these news articles like I normally try to. =)

[silverchode]

flop

[likedamaster]

Teh Definitive... /s

[blackbeld]

^^^^ Lol ^^^

Beta bots testers are jealous!! Hahaha.... Flop?? We have the better version and You know it... Bots living on denial.... Hahaha...

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

" Graphics: It’s a shame the occasional screen tearing interrupts this otherwise excellent visual display. "

So they gave it a 8 for graphics??!!!

Halo 3 ODST also had notable Anti Aliasing issues and the graphics were NOT improved and they gave it a 9!

They also gave the original a 8.7??!!

IGNorant

[El Botto]

From the review:

"Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 suffers from two problems, the first being that Ninja Gaiden 2 was a lesser game than the original."

>> Actually, I think all "droids" knew from the moment they first showed NG2 that NG2 would be an average slash and hack. However the question thats going in our heads is how a "lesser game than the original" still managed to score a 9 from IGN at that time resulting in the bots celebrating that there was still some life left on their console when everyone knew they didnt had SHIAT.

The other question is how IGN allowed that to happen but in reverse position blasted SIGMA 2 from Sigma 1. I think the answer is because IGN has no longer been objective for a very long time.

"The second problem is that the additions just don't improve upon the original experience in any significant way."

>> The additions make the game the DEFINITIVE version. PERIOD.

IGN = sucker site.

[ShadowCK]

Another disappointment exclusively on the PlayStation 3.

[Darrius Cole]

So online play doesn't add anything. That is just BS, and he knew when he wrote it.

[Stryfeno2]

"It does everything" except the superior version.

[knightdarkbox]

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

ninja gaiden of 360 8.7

bu but butttt the blu-ray........

hahahahah heres the droids for spin this?!

edit@

IGN give the score of graphics for 360 of ng2 9.0 and ps3 8.0...

but but the cell,,,,

[chaosatom]

the standards for graphics were raised by uncharted 2.

Look at it graphics category:
Graphics got 8 this time, but a 9 before.

EDIT: yeah, and IGN gave uncharted 2 a 10, and odst a 9 in graphics.

Why are u using third-party ports to attack the cell?

[Wakka_]

Hahaha, the beta version got a better score.

[dustgavin]

It still has a better average score than Halo:ODST.

[Socrates]

So what? I played this game a year ago and now get to enjoy ODST as well.

[dustgavin]

Good for you. Enjoy your sub-hd games while I enjoy this and Uncharted 2.

[Traveler]

MGS4 was also sub-HD and I loved that game. Same goes for ODST. Halo is one of my favorite franchises on the 360. I'm just saying that being sub-HD does not make a game look bad and it for sure doesn't make it less fun.

[Kleptic]

^^come again?...how was MGS4 sub hd?...It wasn't native 1080p like rumored, but was not under 720p iirc...

either way...did they really take the blood out of this version?...I always wondered where all the gore was, but never realized they completely took it out...

screw that imo...

[SaberEdge]

I'm sorry, but you are wrong, Kleptic. MGS4 most certainly is sub-hd. I thought that was a well known fact.

"Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768"
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

Now, 720p is the lowest resolution that is accepted as a high definition standard and that is 1280 x 720, which equals 921,600 pixels.

MGS4's resolution, on the other hand, only equals 786,432 pixels. So, they are correct, MGS4 is sub-hd just like Halo 3 ODST.

Doesn't matter though, both games still look great.

[Kleptic]

wow I stand corrected dude...I just remember right before it released that it was rumored to rendered at full 1080p HD res...but was proven soon after release to in fact only be upscaled by the PS3 (not the TV itself, which is normally the case) to 1080p on applicable displays...its one of the few game I own in which my TV will display '1080p input' from the PS3 even though 720p is checked as an available res...only other time this happens is with a game that is rendered at 1080p natively, like Wipeout HD for example...most disc games that are not 1080p native kick down to 720p by default from the PS3, and that is normally what most games are rendered at to begin with...

I guess I just remembered seeing the '768p' stuff flying around back then, and assumed it was 'above 720p' or whatever...but yeah, agreed...it never really matters...CoD 4 was 600p, and was easily one of the best looking games around when it released...there is a lot more to it than simply resolution...

halo 3, and therefor Halo ODST using the same engine, did get the business end of the fanboy gun with being 640p...but for the most part it was not simply a matter of being 'sub HD'...character models and animation in Halo 3 was sub par even for 2007 (compare facial models to cod 4 for example)...as well as lighting (despite halo fans screaming about its HDR nature, lighting models were relatively simple)...at the time it was on par with everything else I guess, but compared to something like uncharted or killzone 2...that have insanely advanced and realistic lighting systems...it was bested only by UE3 games arguably, who are all notoriously inaccurate in terms of lighting...

[dreamcast]

"Hahaha, the beta version got a better score."

Apparently, the PS3 team at IGN has higher standards, which is completely understandable.

[Man_of_the_year]

LOL dustgavin....Maybe next time you try and downplay "sub-HD" games, you should look carefully in the PS3 library and what big name EXCLUSIVE games are also "sub-HD". MGS4 was also "sub-HD"...i guess you didn't have any fun playing that game huh?

I just love the ignorance of Sony Droids.

[dustgavin]

That does not change the fact that ODST is rehashed, recycled garbage.

[Man_of_the_year]

Well i am having more fun playing that rehashed, recycled garbage than i did any other PS3 exclusive...and going by the sales of Halo ODST, selling 2 million copies in 24 hours (matching KZ2 sales in 1 day that took KZ2 8 months and a price cut to do) would agree with me. I guess while 360 owners are playing Halo ODST and having millions of players to play with online, you can continue to struggle to find players to play online matches with in KZ2.

[Gamer_Politics]

Ninja Gaiden is one of the best hack&slashers around....people buy this game soon as gets cheaper

[calis]

Ninja Gaiden Sigma was one of the best games I played and I enjoyed the Sigma 2 demo, I think I will definitely be getting it.

[cemelc]

This game is awesome

ill buy it day one

This is all you need to know about the game

http://www.newgrounds.com/p...

[Poopface the 2nd]

that was hilarious.

I will be buying this game even though I already have owned every NG game, even 2.

Thats how much I love NG.

[N4GAddict]

Looks like Sony forgot to pay IGN...

edit: it's just a joke.

[Turn 10 Studios]

oh well

i guess teh beta is really better

[steck67]

Are you really that stupid? NG2 Sigma has more content and less issues than the original NG2. The reason why I think NG2 Sigma got a lower score was because it was released a year ago and a lot of people would deduct points because of that, and the sad thing is they dont take into account of the extras and graphical improvements.

[chaosatom]

four xbots here silverchode, Wakka_, knightdarkbox.

and one below me.

See what i did there :)

[N4PS3G]

You can't be that dumb right? ... The first guy logo pic is from Killzone 2 ;)

EDIT: yep i saw what you did there..you edited your post after i owned hard the droid above me :D

now..se what i did there? ;)

[saimcheeda]

so what if the first guy he has a killzone pic?...go through that idiots comment history and check fool, oh and u didnt own that guy i owned u :P

[Obama]

I just find it funny that the graphic standard for ODST only remains unchanged. :P

[gamingisnotacrime]

Great review ifn
By this i can expect this game to be of less quality, content and improvement than a game that gets 9.0
Srcsm//

IGN fails time and time again, the last reasonable site has fallen. Fk reviews, i will rent the game and see user feedback at different online retailers

[LordMarius]

Give it up for IGNorant

[Simon_Brezhnev]

lol funny bubbles ima have to still that

[morganfell]

Ha ha, agreed. Bubbles.

[Ldubbz]

NG2 still sounds the same to me. Nice 'exclusive'.

And those of you butt hurt about Halo's GFX scores, get a life. Is there better tech out there compared to the Halo 3 engine? Sure. Light years better? not really.

Is there many devs out there that have the skills that Bungie has putting that engine to work? No.

@ below

Actually, Im at work, waiting to get out and play it. And its more like 6-7 hours on Heroic. Much rather play even 4 good hours of some Halo action instead of pretty much any other game out there, thank you very much. Nor did I have any of the map packs, so another win for me. And Firefight is tha shiznit!

And I got mine at Toys R Us, so I got me a $20 gift card, and a free ODST figure (im no collector, but it does look sweet), so Im good.

I think its great that the SDF is unaware that their underhanded attempts at bringing down Halo only serves to ignite the masses. Maybe you guys all secretly work for Bungie.....

[Serjikal_Strike]

What are you doin here?
Oh yeah ...ODST is only 4-5 hrs of gaming...so you're done playing the $60 expansion..right?

[3sq]

Sigma 2 looks better than the beta version. This is the proof IGN is bias. ODST looks like crap but still got 9 in graphic.

By the way why are all you bots here? Already finished 4 hours long ODST of yours? heheh $60 right? Was it worth? I hope ODST sells many millions cuz at the end of the day, the ones who get ripped-off are you bots. Hahaha

Edit: knightdarkbox,

"what happened to the argument that ign and more the site more reliable?"

I never said that. By the way who is this "nasim" of yours anyway? Is he your boyfriend? Sorry, I haven't seen him around but please do keep looking.

[knightdarkbox]

"
This is the proof IGN is bias."

what happened to the argument that ign is the site more reliable for reviews?

HU???

edit@ nice spin nasim. now droids are no longer relying on ign ... ironic that.

[3sq]

What exactly did I spin? LOL

And again I'm not your damn boyfriend(Nasim). Go and look for him somewhere else chew! chew!.

[Socrates]

Actually ODST looks pretty damn nice. It definitely looks better than Resistance and Resistance 2 that's for sure. It also looks better than the Call of Duty games in many ways (COD also looks better in some ways). Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 look a little better, but so what? THe graphics are plenty good enough to immerse you in the game and the gameplay and atmosphere is exceptional.

[dustgavin]

"Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 look a little better, but so what?"

Killzone 2 looks a LOT better than ODST. You must need your eyes checked.

[CWMR]

-Killzone 2 does not look a lot better than ODST, or Modern Warfare for that matter. You ps3 fanatics way over-exaggerate how good Killzone 2's graphics are. None of the top games for either console are really all that far from each other in the area of graphics. That is the truth.-

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Resistance 2 looks WAY WAY superior to Halo ODST

[heroprotagonist]

Resistance 2 looked like doggy doodoo. Very disappointing it was.

[dreamcast]

"None of the top games for either console are really all that far from each other in the area of graphics."

You forgot to add /sarcasm at the end.

The first Uncharted looked better than 360's best looking game. The reason NGS2 got an 8 and NG2 got a 9 in the graphics department is because IGN graded them against other games on the platform... so NG2 got a 9 because it's one of the better looking 360 exclusives while NGS2 isn't close to the best looking PS3 exclusive.

There's not a known 360 game that looks as good as Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Gears of War 3, GT5, or Heavy Rain.

"Killzone 2 does not look a lot better than ODST"

LOL

[dustgavin]

I suppose it does not matter when you play on a SD television.

[saimcheeda]

dont worry man, when bots start calling some1 nasim it means they got owned, nasim whoever he was seems to be the bots biggest fear, and also i've been on this site longer than knightdarkbox and i've never seen any nasim yet this guy knows who he is!...he just proved hes an alt account :P

[MKV]

So basically the HD Version got a lower score than the sub HD version.

[Lord_Ranos]

Kinda of ironic.

[Serjikal_Strike]

play their games on LDTV(low definition TV)

[SaberEdge]

So, I guess those PS3 multiplatform games that were sub-hd on the PS3 and 720p on the 360 (like Guitar Hero 3, Fracture and Dark Sector, among others) should have received lower scores than the 360 versions, right?

Lair and Haze were both sub-hd as well.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

[dreamcast]

Clearly if they're going to upgrade to HD, the graphics will be seeing an upgrade as well. If you look at the comparisons, the PS3 version looks better. I guess the standards for graphics have gotten a lot higher since NG2 came out.

[Bathyj]

I dont get how this version can have better frame rate, camera, and graphics, as well as new content but score less.

Seems PS3 games dont get the pass other games on other consoles do.

[Dark360]

Hey Droids dont cry.....FLOPPPPPPPP...HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA

[Lord_Ranos]

LMAO one bubble.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Hmm, I was hoping for a higher score since Sigma was a 9.1. Oh well, it's still probably an amazing game.

[TheGrimReaper]

hmmm funny, improved but outdated graphics get what they deserve this time.
Checking Halo 3 and ODST again: Yep, both got a 9.0 for graphics despite such statements "The Halo 3 engine is starting to show its age, but the art team has done its best to make this one a looker."

btw. gotta laugh about that one at the Halo 3 review -> "And it's to die for in 1080p."

To set things straight, Halo is a great franchise and I just wanted to show certain irregularities in IGN's ratings.

[JonnyBigBoss]

You bring up a very valid point.

[Saaking]

After IGN's 9/10 review for ODST, I don't trust their judgment that much.

[ps360master]

after reading all your post. im sure no one cares what you think

[shocky16]

ps360master laying the smackdown on Saaking.

And he's right too. After all the fanboy bull**** you spew out in every goddamn article why should anybody even think of taking you seriously?

[3sq]

Like you are not the fanboy/bot yourself. Anyway why would I think of talking to you seriously and not him. You used to be a bot but you got owned like 100 of times then you just pretended to be a gamer and told everybody that you have all consoles.

Am I righ? hehehe

Edit: That's your proof? I can write that too. LOL

Edit: "ps360master laying the smackdown on Saaking."

You claim yourself to be gamer but you too still took side so don't pretend to be a gamer if you still take side. It shows pretty much how hypocrite you are. heheheh

[shocky16]

http://i141.photobucket.com...

is this pretending for you?

And ever since i've got all consoles i've become much more unbiased. MGS4 is my favourite game this gen. But I'm always, ALWAYS going to dislike PSFanboys with a passion.

[Socrates]

I'm the same way. I like the PS3, but PS3 fanboys really get under my skin. Saaking is nothing but a troll, so I doubt any true gamer cares what he thinks.

ODST is a f-n great game. From what I have played so far, the 9 was well deserved.

Edit: 3sq, say what you will, but shocky is a hundred times more fair than Saaking. Nobody is 100% impartial, but when you troll as hard as Saaking, that's just sad.

[dustgavin]

Don't come into the open zone acting all high and mighty and claiming to be 'true gamers'. 360 fanboys are just as bad, if not worse. Shocky should know since he is one of them.

[Socrates]

Again, Shocky is a hundred times less fanboyish than you, Dustgavin. You are 100% of the time a big, fat, PS3 fanboy. At least Shocky has said good things about both consoles, unlike you.

Edit: I have been gaming for a very long time and I couldn't care less how long you have been gaming. Actions speak louder than words, and the point still stands that you are consistently anti-360 and pro-PS3, unlike Shocky, who although not being perfectly without bias, is still far, far more fair towards both consoles than you are.

I don't have a problem with the PS3, I have a problem with the irrationality and bile that PS3 fanboys spew at every turn.

[dustgavin]

You do not know a thing about me, kid. You have no idea what consoles I own or how long I have been gaming. Embrace the open zone or keep your mouth shut and whine somewhere else.

Awww...no more bubbles to defend your boyfriend? You better edit that last comment!

[Snatcher]

He does not know what he is talking about, and always get's proved wrong. Socrates is absolutely right here.

[dustgavin]

Sounds like someone with only 2 bubbles is jealous. At least I am not making ignorant comments that get deleted by the mods.

9 Snatcher | 1 day 19 hours ago - deleted by mod -
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[Raider69]

So no blood no fun?I have to admit that the ultra gore on 360 version makes it more appealing for me!I love does fountains of blood wend you hack and slashe those enemys its truly gorgeous!But i probably will get this for the PS3 has soon as price comes down to experience the extra boss fights and new missions.

[Treylove99]

Leading up to this batch of games that has and is coming out, all I heard was, gamespot is the only one I listen too, no Ign is the only one that isn't biased, blah blah blah, then the reviews hit. UC2 obviiously has great reviews, ODST has better than most fanboys expected revies so all the sites are biased, now Sigma 2 gets good, but not great scores and its all on now. The hatred for anything Microsoft has just exploded on this site. I of course will watch the disagrees go up and bubbles go down. I can't wait for UC2 but I know that nobody will believe me because I am laughing at the fanboys. lol So what sites arent' biased at this moment? Playstation magazine? lol They will all change there tune after each review. lol silly fanboys make me laugh.

[TheGrimReaper]

Well, I think you've got to agree that it is kind of awkward to rate the graphics lower on the improved version (framerate, lightning etc.).
Especially after the ODST Review...

[3sq]

Just what happened to IGN lately? Have they lost their sense or something?

You cannot cheat on something that are obvious. People will see through it.

[Homicide]

Microsoft paid them. Don't you see all those ODST ads over at IGN?

[labaronx]

i dont see what the problem is........seems good to me!!!!

On another note IGN has done this with enhanced ports before....

Unreal Tournament 3 360 enhanced port received split screen, enhanced graphics and a mod package featuring the best mods from the PC and got an 8.5

while the ps3 version got an 9.0......

it happens, get over it

[dkgshiz]

No mods, no mouse and keyboard support. The PS3 had better graphics too. Plus with the 2.0 update for the PS3 version of UT3. You get everything that was in the 360 version and more. Plus trophys. 360 version of UT3 was god awful.

[SaberEdge]

Actually, the 360 version was the better looking version.

"So basically this is a game well worthy of its 8/10 score on both consoles. PS3 owners can point to the love for the FPS purist and all the goodies associated with the user-generated content. 360 gamers on the other hand get a slightly better-looking release, superior offline multiplayer options and more in-map bling. Both releases are equally fantastic games."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[beans]

No blood? What a joke lol. NG and DOA will never be the same.

[Ldubbz]

"There's nothing here that outshines the original content, and some of the new bosses are not on par with their fiend friends. Also, if you've played the Xbox version you'll miss the delightful fountains of blood that previously covered every level."

and...

"Strangely though, this version contains far less blood than the original Ninja Gaiden 2. It no longer sprays from hacked limbs, and only appears on the ground in small spurts. It has even been wiped from the "Game Over" screen. It's an odd decision for a title that is still rated "Mature" and a disappointing omission if you've ever witnessed the original gore."

Notice that IGN felt it was important enough to mention twice, in depth. All BS aside, why the hell did they gimp on the blood? I know what a sick action game NG2 is, and it truly does suck that people out there arent getting the goods. What gives?

[Bumpmapping]

F!ck you IGN bunch of M$ d!ck riders

[TheSmoothCriminal]

I didn't even know this hit stores yet, but I'm sure it's just like every NG u just fill this game play gets a little redundant. Just my opinion - The Smooth Criminal-

[-EvoAnubis-]

Jeez...what is it with you guys and IGN!? You people are out of your minds...now I see why a certain category of fanboys is said to be the worst. I doubted it last week, but now I can plainly see this for myself.

[Ldubbz]

Who are you speaking about here? Im confused...

[-EvoAnubis-]

Just pay attention to the site; it's not hard to figure out. Anyone that doesn't give glowing reviews to PS3 games are suddenly bias, and someone who does give a PS3 game a glowing review is damn near a messiah.

It's stupid.

[Traveler]

I'm with you. I own both consoles and actually prefer the PS3 a bit, but I have become somewhat disenchanted with this site recently. The extreme fanboyism is extremely off putting.

[-EvoAnubis-]

I absolutely prefer the PS3, and very rarely touch a 360, but I don't put on rose-colored glasses and pretend that everything on the PS3 is excellent.

NG2 wasn't a great game. Add more features, and guess what - you STILL have a game that's not great.

How is that hard to understand?

[cmrbe]

the issue here is quite old and honestly its getting old. As long as the gaming media sets two standards this will never end.

It's good for some to just ignore it and pass off as just someones opinion but when its right in your face all the time its not funny anymore. Until the gaming media rectify this PS fans will always cry foul over this and so we should. We have every right to complain about the double standards most of us see regularly. If i am labled as the worst fanboys because of it then so be it.

[SaberEdge]

There is nothing to cry foul over, though. It's all in your heads. You aren't seeing things clearly.

When you have a strongly held preconception about something you will tend to see evidence to support that preconception everywhere you look. Not because the preconception is correct, but because that is what you are looking for, and everything is getting filtered through that bias. All "hits" are counted, and every "miss" is ignored or written off. That is, everything that supports the preconception is held up as more "proof", while anything that would show the preconception to be false is brushed aside.

[Silly gameAr]

I agree with you. The PS3 is my console of choice, but this is getting a little embarrassing. But, I guess after your console of preference is ragged on by the XBOX fanboys for so long, it can make you a little nutty. But, it's getting out of hand. I'm to the point where I hardly even comment anymore and just let the games speak for themselves.

[raztad]

@EvoAnubis

Why are you so heated? I dont understand, you cant stand a debate, can you? Why to call other fellow gamers fanboys just because they dont agree with you?

I for one think 8.4 is a damn fine score, not every game can be a 9. However ODST scoring a 9/10 in the graphics department, when KZ2 and UC2 set the bar so high got me really confused. To make things worse the same IGN scored SIGMA2 with a 8/10, this score makes sense if you compare SIGMA 2 graphics with UC2' s, but then with which game was ODST compared in the visual category? with Halo3? with COD4?

My final question is are IGN score numbers arbitrary? It seems so to me.

[-EvoAnubis-]

"Heated?" How did you read anything I said and figured I was "heated?" And if you read the comment history for most of the people here crying (not all, but most), the reason I referred to them as fanboys will probably be a bit more clear.

I'm fine with a good debate, but attempting to argue with people for whom logic doesn't matter isn't exactly something I consider fun.

[dkgshiz]

Not much more content for what your paying for. It was the same thing for bioshock for the PS3. Oh well, this is a day one buy for me since I never played NG2 yet. Im hoping for the same experience that I had with Sigma 1. I hope! Either way this is the superior version.

[RadientFlux]

While not a big fan of current gen versions of Ninja Gaiden. I did love the series back during the NES days.

So after reading the review, the only differences between the x360 and PS3 versions is improved visuals and one has gore while the other has boob jiggle.

[chisox100]

You can't spell IGNorant without IGN

[ambientFLIER]

That's cute. All you dorks were praising IGN for their unbiased reviews and high scores for PS3 exclusives...now when the reviews aren't favorable, they are biased all of a sudden!

[Socrates]

I was going to say the same thing. It wasn't long ago that PS3 fanboys were holding IGN up as one of the supposedly non-biased sites.

These guys are a laugh. They can't even get their story straight.

Edit: Coming from as big a PS3 fanboy as you, I'll take that as a compliment.

[dustgavin]

Unlike the 360 fanboys who claim the site is 'unknown' if it does not give a good score. Socrates, you are just as bad as any 360 fanboy on here.

"B-b-b-but I own all systemzz!! That means I can run my mouth and not be considered bias!"

edit: Only an idiot like you would take that as a compliment. ;)

[Dr_Nefarious]

ambient this is proof that ign is biased. Why did it not score the same as or better than the beta box version? It's proof that the game has more content, and better graphics. It came out a year later yes, but it's inconsistent in reviews from the same website. Kinda funny aint it? I thought so!

[Homicide]

I remember when you PS3 fans called IGN as true gamers, most unbiased site, etc.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

[MasterBlaster]

That's sad...

IGN isn't bias. You guys need to stop being review nazis.

[flaming_xbot]

homicide!!! nice... anyways went back ways lol. becareful homicide, when you show how damn bad and hypocritical the droids on n4g really are they will log into their 50+ names a piece and bubble you down!!

but but only teh xbots are hypocrites!!

i just gotta know droids....what site do you now say is unbiased for reviews.....prolly that droid magazine psm hahahahhahaha

again good stuff homicide , bubbles up!

to master blaster- every site that doesn't give the ps3 fanboys what they WANT or THINK a game should get are BIASED, and when they give a 360 game a good score, those sites are always PAID OFF BY MICROSOFT lmao this is all they sit and type on n4g these days.

know what though, come soon we will be dealing with this all over again when forza 3 reviews start hitting, OMG!! n4g will CRASH!! anyways bubbles to you too man. (i may go into hiding off n4g come next month)

[SaberEdge]

Yeah, nice job, Homicide. Conclusive, irrefutable evidence of the hypocrisy and flip-flopping nature of PS3 fanboys on this site.

[ambientFLIER]

Dr Nefarious - probably because a ps3 game getting an 8.0 is not the same as an xbox game getting an 8.0. The scores do not interchange like that. The games are rated against others on the SAME system, and not the competing ones.

If you weren't such an idiot, you'd know that. The fact that you called it a "beta box" pretty much confirms that.

Here is the mindset of N4PS3 dorks:

PS3 game scores well on a large site = all is well, the site is credible, props for standing up against big bad MS

PS3 game scores bad on the same large site = they are biased!!!! paid off!!! they hate teh pstriple!!!!!one

Xbox game scores well on a large site = the site doesn't want to offend its large fanbase, and is paid off by MS

Xbox game scores well on a small site = they are trying to get more traffic, and of course, paid off

Xbox gets a game first, and then a year later it's ported to the PS3 = THANKZ FOR BETA TESTING BOTS LOLOLO THANKS FOR THE SUPERIOR VERSION

Xbox gets a game a year after the PS3 = LOLOLOL ENJOY OUR LEFTOVERZ BOTS HAHAHAHAHAHAH THIS GAME IS PLAYED OUT ANYWAY

Amusing, really...

[knightdarkbox]

lmao omicide@ + bubles my friend..

[dreamcast]

Yes, that only applies to PS3 fanboys. I remember 360 fanboys upset with gamespot's Halo Wars review, saying they "were losing it", etc... Did I see them say similar things in the ODST review story?

Those who think one type of fanboy is better than another are most likely fanboys.

[Alcon Caper]

Bubbles to Homicide. Great work.

[Noob]

Are they using UC2 on PS3 as a benchmark? I would love to see what they were using on 360 since ODST managed to get a 9.0 in graphics and it's not even in HD and it has no AA. It gets a pass for having an outdated engine. Funny how that works.

[Elle Woods]

Shake the freaking controller god dammit! the thing alone is worth a 9

[otherZinc]

This is the best game on the PS3 if its anything like the 360 version or better.

Ninja Gaiden 2/Sigma is fantastic!

[Unicron]

Can't spell IGN without hypocrisy...

Wait did I do that wrong...? but it looks right.

[cmrbe]

and its a mess. Complete crap. Its only saving grace was its gameplay. I never had any high hopes for sigma 2 because the game is fundmentally flawed. You can add more content, improve the graphics and whatnot but in the end its still a flawed game. Completely disappointed in NG2. To think that i almost bought a x360 for it. Yes this game and Too Human!!.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Why is everyone going crazy over this? It's a good game and was rated a B. If you're looking for an Action hack-and-slash game, I see no reason not to get it.

[Unicron]

For me it has nothing to do with the scores, but rather that the scores even EXIST.

I'd love to have an actual discussion with someone here about reviews, but it seems that everyone takes it as bashing NGS2 or bashing Halo ODST, when it has nothing to do with them. It has everything to do with the broken, utterly broken review system. Things like 1up's RCF2 preview or the hypocrisy found in many ODST reviews just amaze me, yet people actually listen to this crap. THAT'S what upsets me, because people are missing out on great experiences.

[cmrbe]

8.4 is a great score. That is the issue with me. The game is a 7 at best. I said it back then when it was released on the x360 and i will say it now again. Well perhaps 7.3 now with the imporvements but its still a big dissapointment.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I only skimmed over the comments, but I agree with you now that I went back and read them. There are some seriously issues with all review spanning all sites. You have to just try to use all of the professional and user reviews to guide you into buying it or not. That's the point of them anyways.

[vagisil]

the "xbots" got the beta version over a year ago...and this updated BETA version a year later is released on the ps3. thing is it has the same problems the 360 did- camera issues, and framerate issues.

for a bit last year i wondered if the xbox version of ng2 suffered these issues because of the conflict last year with team ninja's itagaki or whatever and tecmo- thought maybe they just "hurried it up" so to speak, looks like i was wrong. besides i got sigma and its awesome, had higher hopes for this.

fanboy bs aside really there is no excuse for this game to have the same issues over a year later on the "superior" hardware. maybe team ninja just aren't what they should be anymore. also disappointed in what ign said about the co-op.

anyways when i get the funds i may buy this just because i am a co-op freak. just find it funny that ps3 fans on n4g are so quick to call xbox gamers "beta bots" when this is a great example of maybe it wasn't the xbox's fault, but maybe ,just maybe, the issues with ng2 we're the devs fault, same with this version.

anyways time to play a little socom confrontation. when i come back lol i bet this thread will be HOT!!! hahahhahahaha

edit- to shocky 16 if you see this i agree. i love my ps3 play it more now than my 360 actually, but the ps3 fanboy's on n4g sometimes make me wish i didn't even have one. you guys on here in particular are the worse of the worse when it comes to sony fanboys. now for the rest-

fanboy mode back on-

i go to other sites where of course sony fanbys are as well, and they act nothing like you jokes on here do. yea finally in a ps3 thread i see some "xbots" in it you guys deserve it back ps3 fanboys. we "xbots" are in here in particularly because of the "beta bot" bs YOU guys started saying on here. eat the crow, you want some hot sauce with it sony fanboys?

besides after all the trolling you guys have done especially since the ps3 "slim" confirmation on here is rediculous. can't discuss forza 3 on n4g, can't discuss halo odst on n4g, hell we that play/like xbox can't talk about anything on here without you lowlifes in those threads bubbling us down in our "own threads" and deliberately abusing the bubble system on n4g, so i hope all 5 of the xbots left on this site troll this sh1t up.

peace

[Neo Amon]

bs3 STILL cant handle yrs old 360 games sad

"if you've played the Xbox version you'll miss the delightful fountains of blood that previously covered every level."

ROFL i guess tecmo knew droids would piss their pants if they saw all that gore

"There is also a noticeable amount of screen tearing that occurs throughout the game and is joined by tiny bits of slowdown towards the adventure's climax when enemies clutter the screen. The slowdown is such a miniscule issue that I wouldn't mention it, if not for the demanding nature of combat where every frame counts."

teh powa uf teh cell HAHAHA!

[ambientFLIER]

teh cell teh cell teh cell!!!!!

[bujasem_89]

have u ever heard of kratos (GOD OF WAR) ... cant handle the Gore have u actually seen E3 .

why are u on this Site what is ur Goal here if u r this clueless about games, are u that worthless... even on the NET??? lol XD

P.S : kratos can rip that gaylord hayabusa to 360 pieces with his little pinkies nail O.W.N.E.D !!!! XD . and if u really did play gay ninja 2 im sure ull remember the part where like 7 ninjas come down the stairs!!

i just thanked god it didnt RROd and it happnes every time .if any of u wonderin YES it did RROD after like 2 weeks piece of SH*T brick

[pushergreen]

made me fucing cry. This disneyland, bunny singing, rated g for gay shiat has stained the great Ninja Gaiden franchise. Better graphics=yes(barely) better art direction=no, not even close, better game=well IGN doesn't think so. But the droid version does have playable boobs= bonus. Bring igataki back for 3.

[Figboy]

accounts for nothing unless that extra content is exclusive to the 360.

remember when Fallout 3 was praised to no end for getting "exclusive" DLC for the 360 version. many a reviewer recommended the 360 version because of that.

the PS3 version of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 comes with 3 additional playable characters with challenge maps for them, online co-operative gameplay, and an enhanced camera system/graphics engine (it's using the Sigma engine, which was built for the PS3, not the NG2 engine, which was built for the 360.

and yet it still scores lower than the original release.

there is no excuse like lower-res textures (ie, Bioshock and Ghostbusters), as the game is clearly visually sharper than the 360 version (even though it's not by leaps and bounds, it still there, and noticeable).

so what's the excuse? the extra content ISN'T ENOUGH? give me a break.

double standards and hypocrisy still run rampant. i suppose i can expect the PS3 versions of Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 to score lower than the 360 versions, despite the extra content in the PS3 version.

and don't bring the price of Sigma 2 into the equation. yes, it's a year old ENHANCED port of a game that PS3 only owners have NEVER played, and features BRAND NEW content in addition to new playable characters. what's Halo 3: ODST's excuse? you have all played the Halo 3 maps and multi-player, so the $60 price tag is NOT justified for that expansion pack.

NGS2 is a NEW game for PS3 owners, who have never played it unless they owned a 360 as well.

i don't count reviews for much these days, but i'm not going to sit silent while reviewers continue to flip flop on review standards at a whim, and people just lap it up and accept it.

IGN, like many other reviewers, regardless of if they're scoring one games exclusives higher than the others, have ALL shown a knack for inconsistency when reviewing games.

why some games get DOCKED for not having a feature, while another will get a PASS has been evidenced for 4 years now, and yet nobody complains.

people docked SOCOM: Confrontation for having laggy service at the beginning, but not a SINGLE site docked Gears of War 2 for having similarly laggy service, despite the fact that, in the case of Gears, you are PAYING for a reliable online network.

people docked Uncharted 1 for being 9 hours long and lacking MP, but NOBODY docked Bioshock for being 9 hours long and having no MP until it came to the PS3 a year later. THEN it was suddenly a big deal.

this isn't crying conspiracy like people with no rebuttal try and accuse PS3 fans of doing, the evidence is in the reviews.

yes, IGN is free to express their opinion, but when they are blatantly showing a lack of objectivity in the very CRITERIA they are using to compose that opinion, it's a problem.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is a better game than Ninja Gaiden 2. it includes features, and playable characters that are not available in the 360 version, and yet still maintains the production values of the 360 version, and IMPROVES upon them.

this alone should have netted it an equal score to the 360 version, regardless of release date. it doesn't matter if the reviewer played the game on the 360. the truth is that MANY a PS3 only owner has NEVER played the game at all, and the game should be reviewed according to THAT criteria, not to the standards of any possible "double dippers."

to any PS3 only owner, a phrase like, "well, it's no different from the game you played last year" means NOTHING to them because they've never played the damn game! who cares if it's a year late! it's here, and it's still a quality game.

8.4 is by no means a bad score in any way, shape or form. it never has been and never will be, but unless the controls, framerate, presentation, and other things that AFFECT GAMEPLAY are lacking in the PS3 version, there's no reason why it shouldn't have scored the same as the 360 version, even WITH the extra content in the PS3 version.

the review system is a fricking JOKE this generation. it's tainted and pointless. make up your own damn minds about the games you want, because you can't rely on the gaming media to give it to you straight either way. either it's fanboy gushing, or fanboy vitriol. there are practically NO objective "journalists" in the mainstream media. politics and profit have forced them to conform to the "big picture" of the sites/magazines bottom line.

i've been harsh on it, but if you want Halo 3: ODST, then by all means get it because YOU want it, not because a magazine tells you you want it.

if you want Sigma 2, or any other game releasing, get it for the same reasons as above.

i'd start a movement to boycott mainstream gaming media if i didn't think it was too late to change anything at this point. the venom has spread too deep into the system's veins, and it more than likely won't be until the new console's rear their heads that it may be excised from the gaming press.

[onanie]

All valid examples of the atrocious behavior of certain gaming "journalists".

Giving IGN the benefit of doubt, if they do indeed rate the game against what is available on the same platform only (to justify a lower score for the PS3 version of NG), then giving ODST a 9 must suggest slim pickings on that side of the fence indeed.

On a serious note, that wasn't a good excuse. They have compared games *across* platforms (for example, giving the PS3 version of Fallout 3 a lower score based on specific issues noted in the comparison), so it is not a consistent practice. When it is inconsistent, it could be perceived as having double standards.

For the multiplatform readers who have yet to pick out the title, would it not be confusing that the upgraded version gets a lower score? Surely, as reviewers, they must have accounted for this kind of readership if they want to be helpful too.

It is certainly easier to criticise their scoring than to defend it.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

and the crying continues...

[solidjun5]

....trolling continues. Dude get out of here.

[Checkmate]

the point system should be dropped entirely imo. just have a written or video review and leave it at that. some people dont even bother to read the review and go straight to the score and make their decisions on if they want it or not. drop the scoring system.

[cmrbe]

i am starting to agree with that system more and more now since they can't seem to set proper standards with their number rating system.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

I Never played NGS2 on XBOX 360. I Thought I bought a PS3???
NGS2 HAS NEVER HAD CO OP. NGS1 has been made better but all I Read in this Review is How Former Pwned XBOX Gamers Shouldnt care.

What happened to the happy Halo Reviewers & thier Generosity?

Hee Hee !
maybe its because IGNs readers are all confirmed xbox 360 users ? i dont know and i dont even care. see you on PSN.

[Goomba12]

Good score

[topdawg122]

I've noticed all the bots finally coming out of the woodwork ay? Yay you guys finally got a game to play so you can talk some sh*t! Good for you!

[CWMR]

-Yeah, this year so far has been drier than normal for the 360. But then again, I guess that is better than having to go through 2 years of relative gaming drought on the PS3. I can't believe how c0cky some of you ps3 fans are getting simply because the ps3 had 1 or 2 better games this year. It's not that big of a difference and you seem to forget that the first two years of the ps3 were lacking games compared to what was available on the 360.

Next year it's looking like the 360 has a stronger year than the ps3, with games like Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Fable 3, Halo Reach, Gears of War 3 (likely), Crackdown 2 and Alan Wake.-

[dreamcast]

"I can't believe how c0cky some of you ps3 fans are getting simply because the ps3 had 1 or 2 better games this year."

Um.. EVERY PS3 exclusive that has come out this year has been better than any 360 exclusives.

Go finish the ODST campaign a few more times before bedtime.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

halo releases should come out by themselves.
that game must be seriously be some mind altering hallucigenic or something.
if i were sony i would call microsoft and ask when they were releasing halo months in advance.
the reviewers and fanboys get so sensitive when we rag halo and label it the ghayest game you could play.
they need about 3 months to themselves before touching another game.

way too defensive xbxo fans.
its impossible to keep the names xbox360, halo and gears out of a ps3 exclusive review.
i give this review 4.6 for small, petty and no tetails about the added content.
Go SonY ! The Industries Bad Boy.

[kraze07]

Not picking sides here, but this is just another flawed review from IGN. They've been putting out a bunch of these lately not only for games, but for some of their movie reviews too.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Here are GOOD action games:

Better combo systems: Devil May Cry, Prince of Persia, God of War

Better storylines: Devil May Cry, God of War, Heavenly Sword

Better replay value: Devil May Cry, God of War

I guess what I'm trying to say is...

...why play Ninja Gaiden when we all have Devil May Cry and God of War?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You guys like this better than DMC and GOW?

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

God of War has the worse combo system ever. You can beat the whole game with the same button mashing move. Devil May Cry is great. But Ninja Gaiden has the best gameplay of all. The God of War story is sweet tho'

[solidjun5]

Um, it's subjective. I could beat DMC4 with the same button. I think GoW series has a wonderful combo system. Why are you here?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

DMC4 on Dante Must Die mode with one button?

Try DMC3.

I find Ninja Gaiden to be incredibly formulaic...and therefore, easy.

[robotnik]

day 1 buy for me, thanks god I didn't buy the beta version

[CWMR]

-And I am sure that the people who played it a year ago are happy that they didn't have to wait a year to play it just to get some minor improvements. Enjoy it, but don't be a jerk about it.-

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Thank you, CWMR.

Bubbles.

[Gun_Senshi]

i just want this game for co op withf riends ^_^

[CWMR]

-Yeah that's understandable.-

[n1kki6]

Does every person on this site always find something to complain about. I am a ps3 owner, I have sedpised MS since getting into consoles, hell you could even call me a sony fanboy, but my god a game that is a year old with minor upgrades still pulled an 8.4 with the competition that is out there and people are complaining. WTF

I do agree it should be $40 or $50 purchase at this point, but at the same time, as gamers with as long as the consoles have been out, you could easily and inexpensively own both consoles by jumping on craigslist. Maybe trading in some old games to bring the cost down at gamestop.

I just don't understand why gamers are always complainging, when in hindsight this is the best time to be a gamer.

I am 27 and have seen and experiened gaming since almost the beginning. Hell I used to waste 20's playing power drift, nba jam and turtles in time at the arcade. At 27 I rarely have time to actually game anymore, but I don't understand what people are complaining about. I still follow it, its a passion of mine, but my god it seems this entire thing is fueled by kids who's parent bought there consoles and wont by them another.

Like I said earlier as well, i own a ps3, i could easily own the other consoles, money is not an issue for me. I used to own a wii, sold it. If i were to buy a 360 it would be to play my younger cousins who are now in college online. But I barely have enough time as is for one game of madden. My god you kids have no idea how good you have it. It really is the age of unearned entitlement.

[heroprotagonist]

Damn, they disneyfied this hardcore game. Purple mist is for pussies.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Seems more like a downgrade than an upgrade. Removing the blood was a terrible idea.

[ps12&3lover]

averaging better than galo rrodst..im out 1

[knightdarkbox]

SO VERY WEAK SPIN DROID..

2/10

[Mr_Luke]

According to me this deserves at least 9.0, from what i saw. Even if the graphic is a lot better and you have the extras, i think i'll stay with my 360 version... unless NGS2 will cost something like euros 49 ;)

[Goldsack]

Your statments are always correct and a good read.

you should make reviews, i would trust them.

gameinformer, ign, gamestop, eurogamer, gamesradar or cvg are completly M$ bisased.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

lmao!

[Homicide]

You forgot Edge and Gamereactor.

[Niske]

"That's cute. All you dorks were praising IGN for their unbiased reviews and high scores for PS3 exclusives...now when the reviews aren't favorable, they are biased all of a sudden!"

Your a retart were did that come from?.

[taliesin]

No blood=bad idea it seems that this is the main reason for the review score? Why didnt they have an option button at the very least the mind boggles. Have the developers said why they took this option?

That aside i am with EvoAnubis, the hate and bile getting spewed all over this site is getting more ridiculous all the time

[Salta_nelas]

You guys are making a big fuss over this, as usual.
The game has been reviews by different reviewers and obviously the game is not as impressive as it was for the 360 last year. Standards are higher these days, specialy on the PS3! They even rated ODST 9 for graphics, there is a lower standard for 360 games and that is showing.

Although the score is lower everyone with a brain knows which version is best and has the best value. Enjoy it while you wait for Uncharted 2.

[Troll-without-Bridge]

Nina Gaiden Σ2 (PS3)　9/9/9/8

Enough said.

IGN is nothing but a bunch of virgin nerds

[ajay_solidsnake]

Microsoft you do whatever you want SIGMA is clearly better than the your bullshit version.

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9.0 - framerate issues and good graphics.
8.0 - occasional screen tearing and better graphics than the original.
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THEY TRIED SO HARD TO KEEP THE SCORE LOWER THAN THE 360 VERSION.
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[etownone]

its obvious your in denial, but from what you wrote, it looks like you lost your f-cking mind over this.... dude its only a game.

so what if the ps3 gets a year old port and it scores lower than the 360 version... shouldn't you be used to it by now? ;)

[peeps]

might give this a go. was busy with other games when the 360 version launched. not to say there's not loads of games coming out soon, but will be yet another game to play for a few weeks

[DW]

You even get this impression if you get demo from the JP PSN store. There are times that the demo level even feels ... empty ... kinda like that 3D Castlevania empty but like the man said, every frame counts I guess.

I noticed that in the demo the game slows down a lot on Master Ninja; perhaps because the enemies grew a brain. It actually became hard to hit the damn ninjas and there are times the game would slow up a little when you slashed at an enemy. Perhaps the disc install will prevent this from happening?

I agree with the reviewer, playing the demo, and not seeing the blood bath was disappointing but in an interview with Tecmo they said that they did that intentionally - much like adding the shake boobies feature (what a waste).

It does look better though but they need to add even more next time and build this game for the PS3 first, not the other way around (from the ground up).

[LiquifiedArt]

1) I beat the demo on all Difficulties: Noticed zero slow down. Playing on a 1080p 46in tv. (720p native)

2) Blood still exists. The fountains of blood spewing from the arteries does not. I actually welcome the change. I'm not 16 anymore, i don't find it necessary to be gruesome or violent, to me personally its not "cool" or "hip". It keeps a game a game and a gore fest a gore fest. I'd watch the movie Candyman everyday if I wanted a gorefest.

3) Loved the Demo. Loved NGS. Loved the new characters. Very excited about this release.

[baph777]

on ebay now. PS3 games sell at much higher prices than 360 games on ebay.

[LiquifiedArt]

...and Loved NGS2 Demo. This is day 1 for me.

[bjornbear]

8.4 is a good score!

Fine its less than the 360 version, possibly because the guy reviewing it played it before or something.

And all of you stating "mehehe its more than many ps3 exclusives" oh just shut it and get a life seriously =P who cares?!!? i didn't get a PS3 to join a pissing match i got it to enjoy games, and i simply have access to the best of them IN MY OPINION

I just feel sorry for all you "gamers" who live off reviewers opinions...future generations will be pathetic if they go down this path =)

[taliesin]

amen!

[nnotdead]

this is why giving games a score is a bad idea. people get pissed because they think the game should have scored .5 points different one way or the other. how about reading the review, and just taking the mans thoughts on the game as just that.

[jeseth]

Its nice to see they finally got the Ninja Gaiden franchise back on track. There were some really dark years there for awhile! The NES games were some of the best games on Nintendo...now Ninja Gaiden Sigma has two solid installations this gen.

....I'm still waiting for the Tenchu of this gen....ninja stealth is so awesome.

[kewlkat007]

If you have already played it on the 360, this is the only reason I would say Meh...to the new one.

I'm sure PS3 fans will enjoy it but I didn't like this direction they took with it and for why? Bloody hell
you say..

Anyhow it's still a good and tough game no pansys needed...though the violence is soften up a bit.

[free3sixty]

1st IGN was TEH site for PS3 owners, cause they gave uncharted2 a 9.5

and now ign = IGNorant...

hahahahahaha

its the same with vgchartz:D.. wait till the next 2-3 weeks, where ps3 sales will be at the point they were before the slim..

[BYE]

Sigma 1 was way better.

[popup]

The point is that all these sites hire ordinary people to do these ordinary jobs of reviewing games.

As in any job, some people are good at their jobs and some people suck.

Therefore you are just getting the opinion of one person that works in one job for one site of a game that he or she did or did not properly play or even like.

Far too much emphasis is put on reviews and reviewers nowadays. Whatever you are into, whatever you own, whatever music you listen to, whatever car you drive and whatever films you like, I guarantee you can find a bad review.

In the case of this game. It is way too hard for me and I sucked at even the demo of the last one so no thanks :)

[kaz-hirai]

:O chatboxes taking a small victory ? well i suppose they should take what they cant get ;-D

But you can play your Ninja Gaiden Beta 2 ;-D while the PS3 gets the ultimate version

:-D!!!!!!!!

[0din]

Play and rent the game yourself to see if you like it or not instead of going mad over the opinion of one idiot. The demo was on the Japanese Playstation Store last week so yeah create a Japanese PSN account if you don't have one, if you have a Japanese PSN account download it. If you played the demo it's your opinion if you liked it or not. I personally enjoyed it :)

TREY 4 LIFE

[Thoreau]

IGNorant

[stuna1]

It should not recieved a lower score than it's Xbox counterpart. Why? Because although it is over a year old, it still is considered a new game to the ps3 fanbase. Sure it was released on the xbox360 and the owners of said console may or may not own a ps3 they still could play it only on the 360, coupled with the fact that there are improvement made to the game, not in the areas that you may have wanted but improvements all the same, ex. multiplayer, new characters and, new levels. Since when have reviewer sites stopped comparing multiplatform games? I must have missed that memo!!!! LOL. They are still doing it from last time I heard, ex. The Orange Box, Unreal Tournament, Prototype, Fallout 3, People may say but it's a year later, But but my butt it's still a comparison. If anything it should have had the same score not lower.

[Thoreau]

d@mn phantom disagreer

[jerethdagryphon]

they took points away for removing blood... i thought 2 had far too much blood, i dont see that as a big deal, seems kind of childish