The pros and cons of cross-platform middleware, as Crytek's Mark Atkinson says "If the game's shader-heavy it runs a bit faster on 360; if it's compute-heavy with physics and particles, the the SPUs take over and it's a bit quicker on PS3."
anyone know who's getting a crack at this engine first?
I want to see someone take advantage of this engine and do something like an RPG. It really does look beautiful. EDIT: I forgot about Free Radical. Thanks for the reminder. I'd love to see what they can do with this.
Most likely Free Radical now that it's been absorbed into Crytek as their console development team.
However, it's sad that they couldn't get shaders running on the cell processor like 1st party Sony devs could, or at least not as well.
@ 1.4 Dude, shaders dont run on the cell (allthough 1st party off load a fair chunk of vertex shader code onto the cell). They run on the Gpu. @ 1.5 There is more than one way to skin a cat. Pure shader power on the GPU can be negated by smart SPU work. LOL at the disagres, like you guys clearly have a clue what a vertex shader or pixel shader are.
They have to prove they can stand up to Alan Wake and Splinter Cell?? You've got it the wrong way round mate, we've seen gameplay for Uncharted 2 and we all know how amazing KZ2 looks yet we've never seen gameplay for AW and SC.
i'm asking about third party.. sorry should've mentioned that... someone outside of crytek ?... coz crytek seems to be stuck in the bahamas for the past 7 yrs... wanna see this engine in a new setting
Is the best looking console game out there. Anyone whos played it on a high def TV and isn't one console biased will tell you so.
I had it before I sold it and played on a 1080p Samsung LCD. It has average textures with good lighting hiding them. Some parts look like the PS2-ish but the Lighting and the guns have more polish than the game.
Funny how you pick the oldest and worse shot pics of the PS3 games...
He said the PS3 has annihilated anything on the 360 and I disagree I was bored. I guess PS3 fans have conditioned themselves to think PS3 is head over heals above the 360 so I'm probably wasting my time. I have both console so I see first hand.
you are sharply becoming the laughing stock of this site. How much BS can one person spew?! You succesfully manage to make yourself sound both desperate and insecure in every comment. Edit: how many accounts do you have to disagree with me then? beyond pathetic...
@PorcelainGod - Why do devs need to say anything at all. All they need to do is make games. If 3rd party devs say nice things for the platforms they are working on for PR; then by that logic 1st part devs do the same thing. On topic, I guess if it makes certain people feel better if they own a particular console and a dev said X console is better or faster or blah blah blah. People are actually arguing about what console is better as if they mad or designed it themselves. I hope people realize that if a gamer only owns a 360 and see some really nice games that are coming out on the PS3 or the Wii, then all they need to do is go down to the store and buy that said console. Oh and if gamer owns a PS3 and sees some really good games coming out for the 360 or Wii..all they have to do is go down to the store and buy said console. Now imagine that. Late breaking news.....Game X can only be ran on x console!!! Gamer x say "I do not have that console what do I do"? They think hey I am a gamer so all I have to do is go and buy console x to play that game or games I like. IMO, that's what gamers do (assuming that money is not the issue). All the bickering back and forth will never end. Arguing on the internet....well you no the quote. It boils down to preference and I realize that some people prefer console x and that's cool, but you do not have to down the other console. Let's be mature about this. All 3 consoles obviously offer something, because people are buying them. Does not matter if one sells 2 billion one month and the other only sell 150,000 that month. If you actually think that a particular console is going to fold or disappear then get a grip they are all here to stay with some really good looking and fun games in the future. We should all be standing in awe at all the excellent games that have been released over the last 3 to 4 years. I have never seen this many good games in such a short period and I have been gaming for over 26 years. Game on...
if bethesda used the cyrtek engine for the next elder scrolls game. I don't think it would ever happen though
Except that THIS particular game developer released one of the MOST demanding PC games in its day... a game that had high-end gaming PCs --> WITH MORE powerful CPUs and GPUs, and FAR MORE system RAM than either the PS3 or 360 have... and those PCs back then and the hardware quite sometime after Crysis was released were unable to run Crysis at 60fps with EVERYTHING for the game set to the highest possible settings. Why can't you accept that each system has pluses and minuses vs each other? Yeeeeeesh!
Sayai jin Great comment. Real gamers already know this. The rest need to take note of it.
Do you really believe this crap you spew? "Most high profile multi platform game best your games. Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 still have to prove they can stand up to Lost Planet 2, Alan wake and Splinter Cell when all is said and done." You just listed three games that we have ethier seen nothing for, or what we have seen is from a PC build. Its the near vapourware you listed that has to prove it can stand up. Do you really think you hold any credibility when you make ridiculous staements like that? You are completely dilusional. Its actually a little sad. They all may surpass KZ2 and U2 (although I wouldn't bet on it), but until you have seen anything from AW, LP2 or SC that compares to a game I can play right now, and isn't running on a PC, then STFU.
lol bro its so funny and somewhat sad to see you and others argue so much over which console is better, both sides are stubborn and I doubt anyone here is going to change their mind no matter how much "proof" is given so really whats the point? Dave Shippy(IBM) and almost every dev who doesn't work for sony or microsoft will tell you they both have pros and cons, the games themselves are so close that if you put a hundred normal gamers in a room and showed gameplay of Gears2 and Killzone2 and asked which graphics looked better I'd be willing to bet you it would be somewhere close to 50/50. I see you vs so many ps3 fans trying to prove 1 console is better than the other which is comical because both consoles really have some great powerhouse games, I own both and I don't see any 1 game in particular that looks like OMG this can't be done on my 360/PS3. All this tit for tat is just a pissing contest among less than 1% of gamers, truth is if you like Killzone2's graphics and oh yeah the gameplay, story, multiplayer too and most of the type of games thats on ps3 then obviously ps3 its your favorite, if you prefer Halo3, Gears, Forza and the stuff coming to 360 platform then you obviously think 360 is better, and surprise!= the majority of gamers fall somewhere in the middle, and at times I like whats coming for ps3, at times I like whats coming for 360 more, so unless you just have some nolstagic loyalty to a brand you're better off with both. If you take a step back and really look at whats going on the mindshare is already set in stone 360 is seen as a great gaming console that has lots of great games and is a cheaper option than PS3, PS3 is thought of in nearly the same terms but its seen as having added value because of Bluray capability which is why its more expensive. I doubt anything or any game is going to change the mindshare of the public after 2 yrs of seeing what both have to offer. The avg joe looking to buy his first HD console will Not be thinking which one is more powerful when he walks in the store its just one very simple question he's either already answered or is about to ask: hmmm, Do I want to buy a 360 to play (insert game/games) or do I want to buy a PS3 to play (insert game/games). Sorry for the long rant.
Funny how when you look at the properties/sizes of some of the pics that "I did not murder him" linked to it shows 1440x2560 for a couple (here's 2 below) with a few "larger" resolutions in others http://www.1up.com/media/03... & http://www.1up.com/media/03... Of which the 360 ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DO. Along with linking to compressed, improper images for the PS3 versions...amazing. Your cheap attempt to make an invalid point goes nowhere, reported as spam since it is not factual and only false information to confuse the truth and spread BS.
To me, a quote like "shaders" run faster on the 360 just proves that the developers at Crytek still haven't mastered middleware development for the ps3. Its been clear since 2007, that the SPU's in the cell are perfectly able to handle shaders, and can easily scale beyond even what the ATI GPU in the 360 can handle ALONG with the physics. http://www.insomniacgames.c... www.kihlander.net/files/files /MastersThesis/presentation.pd f @I did not Murder him: Killzone 2 is so physics heavy comparing it to Ninja blade is an absolute joke. Even if Ninja blade were on par with textures and lighting, there is absolutely no comparison in the physics simulation dept.
that if the 360 was completely out of the picture then it would be a better all around engine.
lol dont argue with murder him, hes a fanboy, never has played kz2, and doesn't own a ps3 for that matter. Place is infested with crazy fanboys. see 1.5 and 1.13. I thought 1.5 was bad, but then I did not murder him/whydis/whoever the hell it is comes in and proves he deserves the crown for fanboy of the month.
But first of all @ thewhoopimen Every 1st and 2nd party dev for PS3 has learned how to work shaders on the SPU. Most 3rd parties have not, I'm not too sure about Konami though. I'm basically saying you are right. This is why I can play split screen co op of Resistance 2 with 50+ badguys shooting/running around at once with the graphics it does and not lag. @ Murder Him While personally, I don't think Heavenly Sword is THAT much of a graphical feat, the AI is where its at. 100 guys on screen, all having AI. Gears 2 can only have about 8 npc's running with AI at once..it simply can't handle it. KZ2 looks garbage STILL FRAME/SCREENSHOT. Play it for yourself, none of that "I sold it" bs. If you played it, your fanboy head would explode into jelly. Uncharted 2 has unparalleled animation, shaders, only 1 games beats it in poly count. That's KZ2. I don't think that terminator game (while looking good) will beat it. Also, MGS 4 is technically a lot better than Gears 2. More polys, better models, properly used shaders (none of that baby oil on everyone bull crap), AI is HELL of a lot better, not to mention the shear amount of weapons, texture counts, effects, and not to mention sound. And nice to know you pulled up PC screenshots of Gears as well.
a multi plat engine turns into another my console has the bigger disc garbage!!.. get a life seriously.. lets not loose focus on this engine here... every bloody article same bloddy arguments... blame the headline even
You can make any game look awful if you choose the right screenshots. I could make Crysis look awful if i showed you the right screenshot. What matters is the overall essence of the game in motion, the physics, the lighting and the graphics. That is where ps3 exclusives destroy xbox 360 exclusives. But if it's screenshots you love, then chew on this: http://kineticninja.blogspo...
You guys going nuts over this should check out Play magazines interview with lead programmer for Crytek Michael Kopietz. It's very informative.