Ve3tro writes: "Square Enix today announces that Star Ocean: The Last Hope will be released across all PAL territories on 5th June, 2009, on the Xbox 360."
There are eight playable characters in the latest installment of the Star Ocean series. All of them are very beneficial when upgraded right but which four makes the best team?
haha, me too! It made it alot easy for me to keep them all balanced like that, I tried the others but it just didnt seem right :)
that was my party too,
but god, that game was horrible, so is infinite.
Tri Ace only make shit
u troll, star ocean 1 and 2 are awesome, 3 and 4 were good, Valkyrie profile is AMAZING,as is Valkyrie profile 2 and resonance of fate was good. radiata was good and infinite wasn't that bad, Tri-ace is one of my fav developers.
just cause you didnt like doesnt mean it sux. I dont like gran turismo or madden does that mean they suck? nope
Just because you don't like tri-Ace, doesn't mean they make "sh1tty" games. There are a great lot of us who love them. The first game I played from them was the second Star Ocean game on PS1 and to this day I'm still in love with them. Star Ocean 4 International was fantastic.
On another note, my party was close to that, except Arumat. I used Sarah instead as an extra healer and was greatly successful.
I always controlled Reimi because I found her easiest. Not to mention her blindside was awesome!
If you actually cried for that stupid horrible acting, you have a problem, my friend.
Hahaha Star Ocean 4 was a waste of time.Everything was just so poorly done apart from the combat.
I agree too actually, the story was very cliche and full of anime stereotypes but the combat was really fun, if only they made the whole game something new and unique
SCRAWL: "PlayStation 3's Star Ocean: The Last Hope has been out and is probably being played by eager RPG fans who own the console right now. Although the core game remained the same as the Xbox 360 version released last year, the PlayStation 3 version has made some welcome improvements."
When you try to update continuously on the condition, and tired on the way a slovenly is.
Is the comparison of Star Ocean 4. PS3 version is an international version.
PS3 set to full range of HDMI, as for 360 image quality of HDMI is set to the maximum.
The PS3 version is a blurry mess
360: http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
PS3: http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
Seriously SE sucks. I miss Squaresoft. They didn't gimp games and sought to deliver the best.
Both versions are amongst the worst looking games on their respective platforms. The people who enjoyed this title on the 360 or were looking forward to the PS3 version likely don't care about the graphics anyways.
Ugh, that looks bad. No wonder they stopped trying to port Last Remnant over to the PS3, Square-Enix just sucks at it. FFXIII is pretty bad by JRPG standards as well but at least that's beautiful to look at.
lol from the same comparison
360
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
ps3
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
360
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
ps3
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
make ur own mind up
I saw the friggin' 1080p HD trailer on my PS3 and it looks nothing like this. These are gimped ass scans just to piss the fanboys. I don't know if the PS3 will turn out better in the end. But everything I have seen is far better than the 360 version. So this website can eat one.
Um yeah.. those Japanese website sure are known for favoring the Xbox 360, that's why the 360 version looks better./s
Dude seriously, its already out on the 360. For some time now.
And to everyone else, for what little its worth, the PS3 version is coming with extra content and extra characters. Even if someone can find fault nothing is going to change that.
I think the decrease in resolution would be enough to turn many away. If it was enough to turn many gamers from when the news broke out on N4G, it's would still be just as effective if not even more now.
Research before you comment.
http://xbox360.ign.com/obje...
Star Ocean 4 was released a year ago on the 360.
Anyways, it was an ok game on the 360. I really had a hard time listening to the voice/character who you spoke with when trying to create a new invention.
@Jack
All other things aside, I do notice the hair/eye color stand out on PS3 version but missing hair shadow on face that is shown on 360's. Looks almost identical, besides some strange blur on ps3 version on some of the pics.
But that won't stop the PS3s year old port from dwarfing the current sales of the 360 version. Playstation has the jrpg fanbase and hopefully the sales of this year old port will remind the developers of that so the PS3 gets to be the lead platform from here on out.
I saw the trailer off PSN and it definitely looks good enough to me. I've already pre-ordered and I'm sure many others have too.
Either way... the main character, Edge, still looks like he has no testicles. I'm still buying it though cuz i got addicted to Star Ocean. It's great that most dialogue will be voiced and they added an insane amount of content compared to last years version.
This is a lame port. They let it become blurry instead of using AA properly.
Jack's links show not much difference between the two games besides better lighting on the PS3 version. The 360 version seems a little too bright. Not really anything that really matters. But extra content is what does matter.
There is no difference in the lighting that I can see. The only noticeable difference I see is that the PS3 version sometimes looks more blurry.
hey N4PS3G 480x270 pictures RULES!!! low res pictures are awesome for high res games comparissons.
This was pretty much what i expected when i found out that there are no plans to improve on the sub-HD resolutions.
No one can deny the fact that the International version is the superior version though.
-no need to keep swapping disc when changing location
-Jap VO option ftw, the english dub is god awful
-improved gameplay e.g.targeting control
Um...about the comparisons...
Isn't it true that the Xbox 360 version of the game had 3d rendered character portaits not the traditional 2D anime? I was led to believe that the 2d anime portaits were exclusive to the PS3 international version.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
The japanese version had 2D avatars. The 3D avatars were a design decision for the western market.
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
After viewing some of these shots i see that some are showing more than just a difference in resolution.
those ps3 shots are FAKE so stop showing them. They are 360 shots photoshopped. Either way you can bet the PS3 version won't be plagued with the same problems the 360 version has like the slowdowns.
I think I will wait for a IGN review before jumping to conclusions about the game comparisons. There are too many websites out there that don't give credible info.
Is this a Tri-Ace job? or internal SE? I wonder because Tri-Ace is developing Resonance of Fate.
ps3 version on ign
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...
ps3 version on this random website
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
on igm
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3...
on random website
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
Especially since it's all one 1 disc, you'll be able to avoid the crappy English voice acting by using Japanese voices (too bad you can do this on that flopped FF13 game), on top of numerous other improvements.
It's so better it looks worse :D
The awesomeness is mind blowing!
It's shaping to be phenomenal by looking at the scores it's definitely the improvement gamers have been waiting in this vasty superior looking and rated version
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
jiji
i can honestly say that the ps3 version looks more blurry, SE what a cr@ppy port,
The PS3 version does look alot blurrier, but the PS3 version lighting is far superior. The rain forest comparison shows how much better it is in that respect... both sharpness for 360 and realistic lighting for PS3
yes, it seems the guys who confirmed the resolution for the 360 version has just now confirmed the resolution of the ps3 version.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...
(non battle mode)
the ps3 version runs at 1024x720p = 737,280 pixels
360's version is 1248x704p = 878,592 pixels
ps3 is 141,312 pixels less.
@ below
....and your sources are?
starocean was 520p on 360 it was on of the lowest resolution games on the 360, it is upcscaled to 720p.
Both the versions are native 520p and upscaled, get your facts right.
EDIT :
Everyone knows that, it even says in the link you provided, 512 vertical lines blown up to 720p check this out as well
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...
Apparently him and the kids in here creaming themselves over these pics are completely ignorant of this bit:
"PS3 set to full range of HDMI, as for 360 image quality of HDMI is set to the maximum."
Meaning the PS3 will go to 720p as all resolutions are checked and 1080p is not being forced, like it is on the 360.
The game in it's native resolution on each respective console runs at a higher resolution on the PS3.
@ 3.1 .....you're pointing out battle mode.
"Both the versions are native 520p"
for a moment i thought it was 1080p, i guess people have now expected less of this game.
@ 3.2 - "Apparently him and the kids in here creaming themselves over these pics"
don't play innocent, people were creaming them selves over this.
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
lolz, hmmmm i wonder what am i going to do with this now?
http://i32.tinypic.com/20ua...
lolz, it should be known 360 to ps3 ports suck, and the best bet for a developer in that situation is to just add more useless content to make it look like a steel.
Star Ocean was never about graphics, story, plot progression, memorable characters but the combat. I played SO1 and SO2 and all i wanted to do is kill enemies, get a lot of money for armor and weapons and healing items, and kill bosses.
@MGSR THE HD VERSION do you ever get tired of being a fanboy and making this crap up? enjoy your bubbles while they last as you will need a new account soon enough.
@ MGSR THE HD VERSION
You are linking to a forum member as proof?
LMFAO! XD!
GTFO
It was considerably less graphics on the PS3 version from a technical standpoint, but it looked better than the 360 version because of the PS3's hardware.
Besides, I'm kinda skeptical about this site: I just heard of it, (I think it's a website, but I thought it was a site provider, so what's up with that?) and the translator is broken now, so I can't see the site.
After such a long time, you would expect the later version to be better. But its worse....
Failure.
I'll wait until I finish WKC, not matter how bad it is, before I get this game. Thank you very much.
PS2 versionis the sameasEnd of eternity. Its Pale and the xbox360 version looks better.
FlopStation version look like beta hehehheheheheheehheeheheh
FS3 owners enjoy with 1 year old game
X360 FTW like all time
360: 1248 x 702 2 x AA in field. 936 x 512 no AA battle
PS3: 1024 x 720 2 X AA in field. 930 x 512 2 x AA battle. PS3's AA method also seems to be a rather dodgy implementation of quincunx, because the textures are blurred wholesale. Ouch. Might as well have not of bothered and preserved resolution.
Neither version is exactly a technical showpiece, and im still shocked how they are barely above SD (e.g wii 720 x 480p) in battle scenes. Pathetic for so called HD gaming
This is what you get when you build a game badly for 360 in the first place, and then port it sloppily onto PS3. OMFG its the worse scenario anyone could imagine.
alot of contents missing from the game to, this game had to suffer just like FF13 ,,, real sad time for JRPGS ,,,Square could do so much if they just jump to the true HD/ps3 power.. the 360 made the game failed ,,and alot other JPRGs ,,hope with FFv13 thing start to change,,
ill pass on this one anyway
So who are you going to blame for White Knight Chronicles dismal 62% average??? Is that the 360's fault too???
LOL! PWNED!!!!!
1- dat game iz 2 freaking years old smarta$$ LOL :D
2- show me one dam post where i supported da game
3- All JRPGS fails this gen and the majority are on the 360,,, anyone with a lil brain will tell you whoz fault is that
LOL BAAAAAAAM THERE IT IS!!
Well, it's definitely not the reason why mass effect 2 has great scores. If you ask me, that game is a very nice show case for xbox 360.
Mass Effect 2 looks better than any other RPG on consoles.
Blaming the 360 for any perceived lack of quality or content in multi-platform JRPGs is ignorant because PS3 exclusive RPGs like White Knight Chronicles and Folklore don't have any more content or quality than the RPGs on the 360.
Several JRPGs on the 360 have done better than White Knight Chronicles, so you are talking out your 'you know what'.
"3- All JRPGS fails this gen and the majority are on the 360,,, anyone with a lil brain will tell you whoz fault is that"
Demon's Souls - PS3-1 360-nil
3D Dot game heroes - PS3-2 360-nil
hence the "J" in JRPG ,,,the "J" stands for JAPANESEO !!
ME2 is a FPS game with some RPG elements, this isn't anything related to what this is all about,,,
btw ME2 on the PC so don't go around shouting ..
back to JPRGs ,
@ starchild
nop, non did any great job tell me one epic AAA JRPG in this Gen,,, NON,,the "better than WKC" you talking about are midcore at best,
comparing them to previous gaming Generations you can easily tell how fail JPRGs are right now in regards to this type of games (not the WRPJS) so don't come give me this ME2 crap thing.
vx, Your reply was weak. You lost that argument.
Truth, When did Demon's Soul turn into a jrpg??? :/
The fact is the best JRPG's this gen are on the 360. Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon easily rate higher than White Knight Chronicles and Folklore. Sorry but the facts are there. So far this gen has proven that SONY has crap for JRPG's and not Microsoft.
Kengo: Legend of the 9 > all action games on the PS3, INCLUDING UNFARTED 2!
That's how dumb you sound.
mines was more clever than sabers. It clicks. His doesn't. Don't like it? Disagree, oh wait you already did. Now go away 360 fanboy.
It was made in Japan and it is an RPG. Am I missing something here? It may be an action RPG, but it was still made in Japan, hence the JRPG!
The 360 version doesn't even have 2D avatars as shown in the picture.
no doubt about it the 360 version looks far superior than the ps3. The ps3 definitely has inferior textures. LMAO at ps3 panty boys they thought they were going to get the better looking game instead its below the 360 version.
Even IF the 360 looked better...which it doesn't (the lighting is CRAP on the 360 version), there is far more content in the better and complete PS3 version of the game.
Where is this better lighting that you are talking about? I looked through every screenshot and could not see an example of what you are talking about. Wishful thinking?
I think he's just really trying his hardest to justify the year long wait he made himself endure to play an inferior port.
The PS3 version clearly has better lighting and textures. It also has less jaggies.
its not that much of a difference. people are stupid if they buy this for the graphics anyway. i bought this last year for my 360 and i played about 3 hours and it hasn't been in my 360 since
Agree about the 2D avatar thing. Besides, if these pics are real, they look less doll-like (creepy) on PS3 than they do on the 360 version.
Star Ocean: The Last Hope International: Beta-tested. PS3 approved.
Oh yes, because getting a sloppy second port a year later with inferior graphics is such a win. /s
Enjoy your hand-me-downs.
So since when a beta looks better than the final build? just making fun to your statement lol, i can easly say that the ps3 version looks like Alpha then
It's funny how you seem to base a games playability and overall quality based on graphics alone. I played Disgaea 1 2 ans 3 for 150 hours plus. Seeing how your making such a big fuss, I'm guessing your a 360 fanboy who's not taking a the loss of a exclusive to well. Go to 4chan or something.
Sooo yeah i am playing White Knight Chronicles right now is a PS3 exclusive you know... but yea i am a 360 fanboy, back to the topic, i already finish star ocean on 360 so im just saying the truth, why say that the 360 version was a beta when it has better score better graphics and probably sold more units on the 360 so yea enjoy paying $60.00 for a game that has clearly poor compare to the 360 version a $39.99 so yeah good luck spending additional $20.00
P.S. why the hell would i care if 360 lose an exclusive? even knowing that MS just but timed exclusive... you must be stupid
Who noticed the 2D avatars (that are exclusive to the ps3) in both comparison pics?
...
Which pretty much makes this article fail. Even if it was a human error, proofread your stories first.
Other than that, I personally think the PS3 graphics look more realistic and the characters are much less doll-like in appearance.
Picking this up tomorrow.
first i'll state that 'im gonna buy the ps3 version because i love star ocean games
second i'll state what i think:
This comparaison was made by a japanese site /blog whatever ..
And the 2d models exist on 360 on the japanese version only ..
so if he did a comparaison it's fairly reasonnable he used ( according to his pics ) both japanese versions ..and that would explain the 2d avatars since they are in both versions ..
The 3d avatars are in the disgusting us 360 version of the game ( the one with the horrible english voices !)
Ps:( to everyone ) ...star ocean games are fun ..because the main dish is the battle system .. i don't care whose version has more pixels .. what i really want is to battle ..
One this site is list as Microsoft, two SE has said they fix the problems that are in the 360 one.
Keep in mind, the only way to tell if it looks better or not, it by playing both of the games yourself back to back.
I'm betting its going to look better mostly because SE knows that PS3 sells their games well Vs 360. 360 will never sell anything higher then its FPS games.
@Halo3 MLG Noob
You seem to have no life, you talk like 360 is all great, but you are your computer talking smack on PS3 games, seems to me that 360 isn't as great as you say it it. I can do all this while listing to music on my PS3 and use a keyboard.
"Two Things
One this site is list as Microsoft"
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/yoda-...
This is the original site just use Google if you don't like Microsoft's translator.
The Last Hope: International Version
The PS3 version of Star Ocean 4, while coming out a year after its 360 counterpart, at least brings a few highly desirable additions. For one, you can listen to all the game's dialogue in Japanese -- a feature more games should include (It even made me want to play through the game without the voiceacting turned off completely!). And you can swap the game's menus to a brighter, more anime-inspired look. If, like me, you thought the 360's 3D character portraits looked out of place, it's nice to switch over to the original Japanese art.
Minor tweaks to the battle system didn't make a huge difference in my impression of the combat, which is still fun if a bit grindy and button mashy. And visually, there's practically no difference at all between the two games. It might not be a reason to sink in another 40 hours if you've already played through it on 360, but if you held off on getting the game last year, your patience has definitely paid off. The PS3 International version of Star Ocean 4 is undeniably the superior game.
Who care about the graphic when the story is crap. I tried to play, but i couldn't stand the acting. It is probably the worst that i have seen. Ahh...star ocean sure seem better days.
Is that Square probably never thought of offering the ship models in the game as unlockable Home content.
Don't even know if the game has trophies.
It looks like theirs battle trophy's, which maybe in game trophy's that unlock PS3 trophy's.
So far alot of games on the PS3 support trophy's and some even support music from the PS3's hard drive.
Those scans are obviously trying to make the ps3 version look bad on purpose. Probably a fanboy wants to make the ps3 looks bad.
I have the game on PS3 and it's clear that those pics were altered somehow, because it looks much better then this and the 360 version.
That dastardly Japanese game site wants to make the Japanese console look bad. That must be it, right?
DAMN!!! Why doesn't anyone make good RPGs anymore. It would be one thing to say that the genre is dead due to lack of interest, but this is an entirely different beast!!!
WHERE ARE MY GOOD RPGs!!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
the game is good, stop judgin crap and play it, its good dammit, not the best but its good.
and the graphics r stange because the more lighting the better it looks, sounds dumb but its true. gameplay is fun, and story is different, aside from a certain part that annoyed me.
and the scans arent even that horrible, i played it on xbox already. u guys complain to damn much lol.
the ps3 version is better anyway since it has 2 more characters but i wont buy it again.
fact is this will sell better on PS3 then it did on 360
edit did this game even pass a million worldwide for 360?im gonna go out and say this will sell 2+ million on PS3
I don't know about you people but I'd take the PS3 version over the X360 version any day.
Just look:
X360: http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
PS3: http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
PS3 version actually looks better in HD screen-shots.
lol not a chance. in most of the screenshots the ps3 version looks blurry and lacking in detail. compare these: http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4... http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
According to those scans, the ps3 version looks horrible, was planning on getting it on ps3 but I guess am gonna have to get it on 360, terrible graphics on both
Oh come on bots there is not that much difference, really, I don't know why they even bother with these comparisons.
When PS3 gets a better port it never get's talked about, but when x360 does all of a sudden all the bots invade N4G and start bashing the PS3.
Just wait until you see how gimped the FF13 x360 version is, then we can talk.
I think a video would serve as a better purpose with comparisons.
Should I pick this game up? Sci-fi / fantasy genre seems interesting.
And FF XIII probably looks better on the PS3. I won't be getting any of the games.
Can't handle losing a 360 only title, makes you wonder what they would say if Gears, Halo and Mass Effect were on PS3.
so good that it's impossible to see it clearly with the naked eye. You need special cell glasses to see past it's blurriness. lol
Gimped port confirmed
but but teh bluray
Its sad to see 360 fanboys getting dumber everytime, you just believe what ever anyone tells you.
Like I said, can't judge until you put both side by side, taking a picture of a game is like trying to take a picture in the dark with no flash. It isn't going to come out right, an when did pictures from screen shots show true 1080p? In less it came right from the company them selfs.
Can't wait to buy it! I'm glad I didn't buy the xbox version, since it's much worse.
Remember when the xbox fangirls said that this game was exclusive to the flopbox? Mwahahahahaha.
I will buy the superior X360 version for 1/3 the price.
Thanks for making my choice easy and save me mad $$$, Square.
Worst game I ever owned. I was going through a gaming drought when I bought this crap.
what its worst that having a ps3? having a ps3 and buy a copy of star ocean 4 international with blurry graphics. cmon guys.....how is square-enix expecting people to buy this rpg that its not that great, that comes a year later and have "ok" GX?
if i want to play rpgs in the americas i'll go 360 all the way. WNC was a failure that comes tooooooooo late to the party.
xD
Do japanese people actually speak that cryptic or is mr.translator not doing his job properly?
The game looks pretty much the same, I just see some jaggies cleaned up. The PS3 version will be better only because of the new options that are being included now.
Erm - Here is the evidence that something is fishy:
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
http://yoda.dip.jp/Game/SO4...
Both pictures have a huge difference, but as you can see the Charakter Artwork at the bottom left is in a Anime-Style. The Xbox Version only had CG Charakters there and the Anime Art is PS3 exklusive. So both pictures are definatly from the PS3 Version.
ok i take back my statement. Its sad to see that Tri-Ace have erased the Anime-Pics in the Western-Version.
it for my birthday present gonna be 25 on Saturday woohoo gonna play it over the weekend.
Still getting a copy of the game. I'm not playing this for the graphics but for the combat system and story. I didn't buy it for the 360 because of the horrible dubs, but now I have no excuse since the game comes with Japanese voices aka the superior voice acting. I don't mind the extra stuff as well.
same here ive gotten all rpg's regardless of reviews their all fun to play honestly what killed me for the 360 version of star ocean was the voice acting wow i wouldnt be surprised people stopped playing it just cause of the voice acting. its as bad as scratching a chalk board
Holy god of the underground, why do people scream about the graphics all the time?
If graphics are the most important thing with a game you`re not a true gamer.
For the love of god shut up with these comparisons.
BECAUSE THIS IS A RPG, NOT HEAVY RAIN or a lousy western wannabe rpg`s.
I only bought it on ps3 because i have all the other star oceans, but man, these japanese devs are really horrible now a days. I mean this goes for ANY DEVELOPER who can't ratchet out native 720p.
Give me a break. All of you Devs! Meet the Minimum standards for HD. Why do we all have Big TVs? Not to play Wii games, that is for sure.\
Very very disappointed. I hope these shots look worse then it actually is.
He did not typ that the game will release in the 360, he typ that no one buy this game for the 360, LEARN TO READ NEXT TIME!!
it's an JRPG, and if you haven't played it on the 360 then get it on the ps3, simple? problem solved...
but one thing is for damn sure, i AM NOT doing those freaking battle trophies over i don't care what extra toon they add, they can add an elf chick with bigger breast and I still aint doing that shyt over. Point final!
FAIL on one of the comparisons the in game avatar for Edge was anime style and the anime style is only on the PS3 so FAIl BS STFU