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Do Improved Graphics Outweigh Reliability?

GameCritics writes:

"My wife bought me the PS3 collector's edition of Resident Evil 5 on the day it came out. She knew that I hadn't yet decided which system I wanted the game for, and that I might end up trading it out, but she figured it would be a nice surprise to bring it home on release day anyway. (And yes, it was a really great surprise.)

The crux of my indecision came down to deciding between better graphics on a crappier system or slightly worse graphics on a more reliable system. My wife warned me that I might regret getting the 360 version if the system died. But my 360 (my second console after my first died over a year ago) had been pretty stable for a while without any problems.

I eventually decided to go with the 360 version because of the marginally better graphics and (somewhat importantly) the fact that inventory management in split-screen co-op mode is easier on the 360. So we swapped out the PS3 version and started playing. Everything was going fantastically until the unthinkable happened. At this point, it should be pretty obvious where I'm going with this, but I'll press on with the story."

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Shadow Flare5907d ago

"Better graphics on a crappier system or worse graphics on a more reliable system"

Or the TRUTH: Better graphics on a more reliable system or worse graphics on really unreliable system. AKA. The poor man's playstation 3

chaosatom5907d ago

What Improved Graphics?

LOL.

The Matrix5906d ago

People, if you INSTALL the game on your 360 and take precautionary measures for your 360 (give plenty of room for air, stand vertically) you will NOT get the red rings of death. The people that get the rrod are the idiots who cram their 360 in with their TV entertainment set or leave their 360 on all night or don't install their game.

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crck5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

How is inventory management easier on the 360 in split screen co-op? I would think they would be the same... Seems like this guy just wanted to buy it for the 360 and is coming up with any excuse he can think of. Which is fine but don't write about it as if it was fact. Multiplat games are about 98% identical at this point. If you want to sit there and lick the screen or try and count frames per second that's fine. But I think the vast majority of people would be too busy playing the game.

Genesis55906d ago

My friend has the 360 version and I have the PS3 version. We have seen each other playing it and both agree there is absolutley no difference in graphics.

GWAVE5906d ago

It's funny how people still pretend that the 360's graphics on multiplatform game are better in any significant way. I mean, since the 360 has no exclusives that look better than PS3 games, I guess you have to resort to a lie that claims multiplatforms look better.

I mean, c'mon kids. It's not 2007. The days of multiplatform games being superior on the 360 are over. Both versions are identical.

raptorjacob5906d ago

@ the matrix.

you shouldnt have to worry where you place you game console. as long as it isnt in a drawer with no air to get to it, you should be able to play your games without worry. there is something wrong with the console when you are calling people idiots for placing their console in their entertainment shelf.

Kushan5906d ago

Anyone that claims there's a difference in the graphics is a fanboy. The games are identical, both versions use the same models, same textures, same everything. If there's a difference, it's a difference in the technology behind how it's drawn to screen, but neither is any better than the other, at least not on 3rd party games.

FarEastOrient5906d ago

@The Matrix

Funny how that I still have 3 dead Xbox 360s even though I'm a programmer than runs my computer room at 68-70 degrees and still have two RRoD and one E74. I also have to PS3s that are still running just fine in the same room along with 4 other computers, 6 monitors, 2 servers, and 3 HDTVs.

Next time don't generalize and show some intelligence...

morganfell5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

The Matrix, that is absolutely incorrect.

http://i39.photobucket.com/...

I have had 5 360s so far. 2 died in that spot, 1 died on an open shelf mounted on the wall that only had the 360 sitting on it, and 1 refurb was dead out of the box. There is plenty of room around the 360 and they still continue to go belly up.

By the way, Neo used a PS3.

truehunter5906d ago

Tell me how to install the game with my friend Arcade model ??

O Dont tell me he needa cought up $$ for HDD. Great now your made a huge let down.

Ixxat5906d ago

I have this for my 360 and my PS3, I grabbed it first for the 360, however I kept getting "Clean Disc" error, and this is on a new 360 Arcade bundle. So I decided to buy it for my PS3, so far no problems with the PS3, it loads faster, it doesn't give me stupid errors and looks the same in 1080p... not to mention, since I don't have an Xbox Live gold membership I can play online for free and use my Jawbone headset.

Agent VX5906d ago

Oh Yawwnnnn!!! Of course the multiplat games look and run better on the 360, anybody denying this is just a silly goofy fanboy. The "Vast" majority of mulitiplat games are better on the 360, that is just "Fact".

But as the poor crappy workmanship of the 360, I doubt that I will ever buy a console from MS again. It is completely unforgivable that MS built a console so poorly.

This is just fact that crappy stuff manufactured in China is nothing but crap. I haven't had the horror of sending in my 360 in multiple times, only once. And that is already too much.

Both the PS3 and 360 have disappointed massively, and thank god I have a decent PC to play games on. Screw both Sony and MS.

agentace5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

@crck
theres a glitch that can only be done on the 360 with the inventory, thats why he wanted it because he wanted to cheat and copy all his items over & over again to sell, what a n00b

@FarEastOrient
dam, i want your room

I did not murder him5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

http://www.eurogamer.pt/gal...

Expected

Look at the textures and resolution differences.

I think GWAVE wanted to say how can people pretend PS3 is now performing on the same level.

Loyal RE5 fans won't care which is better and anti MS supporters exaggerate 360 hardware pretending rrod is a epidemic effecting current machines.

morganfell5906d ago

People can easily say the PS3 is performing BEYOND the 360 when the best looking titles this generation belong to the PS3. That iusn't even a subject for debate.

Multiplatform is a mixed bag depending on the developer. You can go back to Oblivion near the beginning of the PS3 launch and asked who got the best looking version. This has occurred numerous times. GTAIV was huge last year. Who received the best looking version?

HighDefinition5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

I love my PS3 and 360 too.

But, the PS3 has left the 360 far behind when it comes to the performance of exclusive title. Multiplats, I can 100% say would look better if they were exclusive to the PS3 (like GTAIV). For instance, Mass Effect, Fable2 and Lost Oddessy, GeoW1/2 (which are all great gamess) don`t even come close to the OVERALL performance of games like Uncharted or KZ2 when it comes to Lighting, Physics and Graphics. How well both of those games perform in total out does anything on the 360. Nothing even comes close.

morganfell5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

No, the PS3 is now beyond the 360 says ever objective critic and analyst on the planet. You don't like the truth so you seek to alter it. Due to the entirely laughable comments it does not represent you in a kind light and only serves to tarnish and invalidate any worthwhile remarks you do offer.

As much as PS3 fans are waylaid concerning the "just wait and see" phrase it is humorous to watch you attempt to use the same tactic. The more you struggle to defend your position the deeper you dig your own hole. You are now at the point we can just kick dirt on you, drop a stone at one end and be done with you. The best part? We never had to pick up a shovel. You did all of the work.

I did not murder him5906d ago

Come on man you really think if MS had 100 people working on Killzone 2 for 5 years they couldn't do for the 360.

Killzone 2 is old news Operation Flashpoint 2, Lost planet 2 Bioshock 2, COD MWF 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell will be the new milestones.

ZuperAmazingCooKie5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

"Uncharted and Killzone 2 claims are myths..."

Fanboys love to exchange the term myth with the term reality as evidenced here:

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

http://kineticninja.blogspo...

"... in reality multi platform games nor and in the near future have already proved more advanced."

Nothing more than baseless speculation from a fanboy with no empirical evidence to back his claims. You sound a lot like "Why dis", is it a coincidence? I think not.

morganfell5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

Allow me to borrow from you,

"Come on man. You don't think with a dedicated team the PS3 would have had better textures and rid us of the ridiculous elevator in Mass Effect?"

Coulda, shoulda, woulda, dreams cast on the waters to be carried out to see (sea). It does no good to theorize what might have been. We have what is and the fact is the 360 is graphically overwhelmed by the PS3.

And you are quite wrong. Heavy Rain and God of War III will be the new milestones.

Blitzed5906d ago

I did not Murder Him/ POG/ WhyDis- do you really think you're fooling anyone on this site? In 3 weeks you'll be down to 1 buble and we will have another all-new trolling account.

You made the same KZ2 bashing claims under you're WhyDis and your're POG account yet no-one could find you're supposed WhyDis1 PSN ID anywhere on Killzone.com.

So-PSNID to confirm you're claims of playing the game or please STFU.

You dont even troll on an intelligent level. This site could significantly benefit from IP banning.

kwicksandz5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

I cant believe the SDF still deny RE5 is worse on ps3. The comparison is clear as day!!! Dont let the sony soldiers lie like that

And i also would agree that multi plats are at or surpassing the graphics bar that is so often boasted about on this site. RE5 for instance =)

I did not murder him5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

If you say so I have no idea what you are talking about.
RE5 looks better on the 360 no need for you guys to change the subject. Sour grapes bashing won't make RE5 and most other games look better on the PS3.

@Thankz KwickSandz. I have never been in such a twisted place. I noticed the more you try to keep it real the more the PS3 fans try to trash you.

morganfell5906d ago

And putting on blinders and avoiding the argument on which you tossed gasoline and lost will not change the subject. The next gen graphics crown easily belongs to the PS3 and forthcoming PS3 titles will only cement that fact.

As regards multiplatform titles, the most technologically advanced engine on the horizon is the Rage engine and we have all heard who is getting the better looking version there.

As far as dedicated platform titles, it's clear. Welcome to the Playstation Nation.

Blitzed5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

If you want to play dumb thats fine, I'll play along and ignore the fact that your new account was created the same day WhyDis went to 1 bubble, and you post the same trolling crap practically verbatim.

I never said the 360 version of RE5 doesn't look better, I wouldn't know (or really care as the difference is probably minimal and I am not playing with a magnifying glass).

I am talking about your constant bashing of KZ2- prove you've played it by posting your PSN ID so your claims of playing can be verified or STFU and stop trolling.

Ausbo5906d ago

wow n4g is a f***ing breeding ground for ps3 fanboys. I am going to play some games while you guys keep on b****ing about rrod.

Anon19745905d ago

A game could have the best graphics ever and it wouldn't matter a lick if you couldn't play it. I learned that the hard way. Since launch I've been without my 360 console 4 months due to hardware repairs. What's the use of having hundreds of dollars invested in a games library you can't play. That'll change your gaming habits in a hurry. It certainly did mine.

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CrazyOrange5905d ago

Fuuk you N4G members.

Gamer zone has become open zone

the only diffrence is, you can say "xbot" or "droids" in open zone but not in gamerzone, everything else is allowed.

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morganfell5905d ago

Oh the irony of militant's words...

pain777pas5904d ago

@Matrix LO Friggin L! Its been so long since I read that BullSh*t. Wow that was refreshing. There is no way to avoid it. They all die sometime. When I took mine in you could see that I treated the thing like gold due to the rumors then it still happened. The system is Sh#t plain and simple.

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DrWan5907d ago

how does MSFT get away with this? I don't get it. What other electronics in history has such horrible reliability

Blitzed5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

What amazes me is when the fanboys come in here and say "But there is a warranty!!!".

If I was selling you a car and said, "theres a very good chance your car is going to break down but don't worry, we'll fix it for free", would you still buy it?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Blitzed5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

Removed my post (I was rambling and my point was lost)

Ausbo5906d ago

dude your analogy sucks.

First off, an xbox breaking down isn't at all life threatening like a car breaking down, and it is not nearly as important.

Your going to compare something that is 200 dollars to something 20,000 dollars?
xboxs are like cars? Please spare me the laughter.

Cenobia5906d ago

@Ausbo
I know, right? It's only 200 dollars. We should totally expect electronics under $500 to break 1/3 of the time. When will these people learn that cheap isn't free.

Or maybe his anology makes perfect sense because people buy things and expect them to fudging work like they're supposed to. Nobody can spin "the RROD is okay" no matter how much they try.

Jaces5905d ago (Edited 5905d ago )

The only difference between the two systems is lighting and a bit of motion blur on one compared to the other.

That's it, I'm sorry if a little more lighting in one game makes it seem better than the other but that's lie and just plain fanboyish.

One more thing, M$ may have some great looking games but all of them have more than enough glitches to drive someone crazy. And these aren't simple "woopsies" you see maybe once or twice, these are throughout the entire game.

Who knows, maybe the developers were to lazy to polish the final product up. Besides, it's practically impossible to compare one game to another if they were not identically the same, ie. Killzone 2 and Mass Effect 2. Like trying to compare apples and oranges. Although we have seen one game that shows how much better it looks compared to the 360, Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

Can't deny that truth ladies and gentlemen. Two games on both systems but both made exclusively for each. And yet, PS3 comes out looking far smoother and polished.

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-x.Red.x-5907d ago

people should really stop playing on SDTVs

power of Green 5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://xbox.joystiq.com/200...

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

I know PS3 fanboys ignore reason, logic and truth but I posted this for smart people, idiots can ignore the links, attack and hit disagree.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

LOVE THIS ONE
http://www.eurogamer.pt/gal...

EDIT: You mean that overhyped flop?

ZombieNinjaPanda5906d ago

Power of Green:

Why don't you starting playing your games on a real HD Tv rather then using Internet videos for comparison.

Ever heard of the fact that everyone on the internet gets downgraded for streaming and download?

Internet isn't as reliable as you think it is, I only trust my eyes and my HD TV.

Sir Ken_Kutaragi5906d ago

WHAT HAPPENED!!! WHAT HAPPENED!!! ;-D

RRoD??? E74??? SCRATCHED DISC??? YEARLY TAX RUN OUT TO PLAY ONLINE??? FIRE??? WIFE RUN OFF WITH THE FIREMAN THAT CAME TO PUT THE FIRE OUT??? DOES ANYONE CARE WHAT THESE PEOPLE SAY OR DO ANYWAY??? I DON'T??? I'M NOT SHOUTING??? REALLY??? + OUT SOON ON CHATBOX 360 'NPD DLC'???

KZ2 Vs RE5(+EVERY 'ChatBox 360' Game) = KILLZONE 2 WINS!!! ;-P

[AmphetamineThomasHeckman] ;)

GiantEnemyCrab5906d ago

haha and Unicorn whips out the same blog post every droid on this site uses. Those Gears captures couldn't of been more staged to look like crap. Do you really think those horribly done screen shots represents what Gears looks like? Really?

OmarJA5906d ago (Edited 5906d ago )

LMMFAO! Unicron! GeoW 2 looks like a PS1 game compared to the first Uncharted... :D

yz2505906d ago

after the mediocre response to killzone 2, i think it's still speechless.

gamesR4fun5905d ago

man long time since i seen you post last. damn bubbles seems to have gone down a notch eh. (heres one back on me man ur a hopeless fanboi sure but at least your straight up about it n can write a cohesive sentence)

We've still got both consoles (actually teh 360 stopped reading disks a couple days ago sigh) n both copies look near identical on our hd tv but still if saying the 360 version is way better makes u happy then more power to ya.
Still think u should get a ps3 so we can get some killzone on even u gotta admit that the ps3 exclusives alone are worth the price of admission. N dont forget free online so no extra charges. :D

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swiftshot935907d ago

RE5 is awesome. Sucks he cant play it. I got the PS3 version myself and it looks and runs great. I'm on my fourth play through myself.

gamerdude115906d ago

I am confused by this guy's blog. Why doesn't he get the PS3 version and he will get improved graphics and reliability?

The Matrix5906d ago

1. Achievements and Gamerscore
2. Different, cooler friends on Xbox Live
3. Different controller (better or worse)

Those are the reasons I can think of.

HDgamer5906d ago

Those are horrible reasons. I can flip the switch and say
1. Trophies and Home rewards
2. Different, cooler friends on PSN
3. Different controller (better or worse)

Those are the reasons I can think of.

Yeah its not much different.

somekindofmike5906d ago

lol 'cooler friends on xbox live'

is that really the best to come up with to justify your choice to use an unreliable console?

morganfell5906d ago

I am unsure but I would hazard to guess most would not care for 8 year old kids screaming in their ear. Regardless of the fact you can mute them the issue is you have to in order to gain some sense of peace. It is an ever present issue on Live. The times this occurs on PSN are almost non-existent. So one can only surmise that "cooler" depends on your age and your definition of a friend.

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Resident Evil 5 - 15 Years of Being the Most Misunderstood Resident Evil

Resident Evil 5 launched 15 years ago today - and it continues to stand as a stepping stone from the good to the bad.

TheBrainZ470d ago

One of my favourites because of the co-op. Then Resi 6 arrived and the series nosedived further.

Knightofelemia470d ago

I enjoyed the game co-oping with a friend I know the game in solo the AI can be an idiot but RE5 is way better then RE6. I played RE6 with a friend if it wasn't cheap when I got I would have avoided RE6.

thesoftware730470d ago (Edited 470d ago )

5 was excellent, still play Mercs with my brother.
I would love a fully remastered RE:5, with some added, reworked content. The DLC for 5 was also excellent.

6 was awful.

CrimsonWing69470d ago

I never understood why the game was misunderstood. It was a fantastic game at launch and is still fun today to play. It’s as action packed as Resident Evil 4 was, yet that’s regarded a masterpiece 🤷‍♂️

chobit_A5HL3Y470d ago

it was "misunderstood" because they introduced co-op into the franchise at a time when people loved to have fake rage about co-op. like, you could play the game as a solo experience, but people chose to have their bandwagon rage because it was cool at the time lol

-Foxtrot469d ago (Edited 469d ago )

What the hell are you talking about? Fake Rage? Bandwagon? Come on.

You can play it solo but you are forced to carry around a shitty AI partner you have to micro manage. It wasn't as fun solo.

Co-op sucked all the horror, tension and suspense from the game because having a partner covering you was like a safety net. Enemy trying to sneak up on you? No sweat the AI will just automatically lock on, alert you while they shoot first telling you where they are basically.

It was the start of Capcoms fall with the Resident Evil series where it basically become an over the top generic action game which betrayed it's own survival horror roots. Least RE4 had a good blend of both but Capcom just went the wrong way with RE5, especially going off what they were going to do during the RE4.5 beta phase before co-op was added.

franwex469d ago

At least the game was a ton of fun tho. If the game was bad, the outrage would’ve been justified. They simply pivoted for a couple of games. At this point it’s bad because it’s called Resident evil 5? But if was called something else it would’ve been good? Please.

chobit_A5HL3Y468d ago

like i said: fake baby rage and bandwagon hate. res4 wasn't really that scary, either, and was already taking the series into more of an action-oriented direction at the time. 5 was a good game that people fake-hated because of co-op that you didn't even have to play lol hence the fake rage and bandwagon hate. i mean, it obviously did well enough for capcom to go ahead and make 6 the way they did, right? if 5 was so bad, they would have changed what 6 was during development. the difference is that 6 was actually just bad.

people "hate" 5 because res4 was so good, and 5 was just unfortunate enough to be its successor. like i said, 4 wasn't scary, either, and relied more on tension than horror, but it was already more of an action game. if you don't wanna like 5 because it's not scary or whatever- that's fine, but it wasn't meant to be strictly a horror game anymore at that point anyways. the gameplay was a lot faster-paced than 4, so saying that the ai helping you by potentially shooting someone that was sneaking up behind you is a moot point. there were more enemies that were more aggressive, along with newer threats.

5 isn't as good as 4, but it's not a bad game by any stretch.

RNTody444d ago (Edited 444d ago )

What? I always thought RE5 had fake controversy because it was set in South Africa and you shot a bunch of black zombies. I live in South Africa and thought the game was absolutely awesome, played the whole thing co-op with my brother.

@Foxtrot I think you're confusing the garbage Dead Space 3 with Resident Evil 5. Resident Evil 4 was already a hyper action game and had zero fear factor other than the grotesque appearance of some enemies.

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The Best Co-Op Horror Games You've Missed in Halloween

Try to cope with your friend through terror with this list featuring the best horror Co-Op games you can play today.

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Complete Global Saturation! Is Resident Evil 5 Really the Best Choice for the Next Remake?

An exploration of whether RE5 is truly the most logical next step for a remake, or whether there are others in line who deserve their day in the sun.

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ocelot07629d ago

Remake of Resident evil outbreak as well as file 2. Same gameplay as the recent remakes. Choose what ever character you want to play as. With online co op.

DarXyde628d ago

I've been dying to see Outbreak come back for years.

Even RE Zero and Code Veronica would be excellent.

But for the love of God, not RE5 or RE6.

One they get around to the aforementioned games, why not remake the original Devil May Cry trilogy? That would be a much better use of time. At the very least, the first two games.

justsomeoffdude629d ago (Edited 629d ago )

code veronica should be the nest remake

neutralgamer1992629d ago

CV is good candidate for a remake but requires way more work for today’s standard. People look at CV through their tinted glasses. I think capcom wants to remake every game up till 6 and fix the plot holes so they can continue the series in one straight story path

Also not sure why only RE have to get remade when there are other capcom games that would be better suited for remakes like oninusha

DVAcme629d ago

That's PRECISELY the reason Code Veronica needs a remake. All the other RE games aged pretty well, considering the limitations of the time, but Code Veronica is the game that would be served the best bybremaking it because it feels so archaic these days.

neutralgamer1992629d ago

DVA

But it depends if capcom wants a big project or a quick remake. CV will require a lot more work than RE5

IMO they should remake other games before doing RE5

TheEnigma313629d ago

how many times do we have to say CV is the next best one?

CrimsonWing69629d ago

Nooooo! Why the hell can’t they do Code Veronica? I just don’t understand.

1Victor629d ago

RE5 is the closest to the bottom of the pot(a little smoky flavor but passable in a emergency) before we get to the burned crust that is 6 that not even the pigs would eat

CrimsonWing69629d ago (Edited 629d ago )

Unpopular opinion here, but I enjoyed 5 and 6. I just think, in terms of Remakes, the classics are the one that should get the treatment above the modern takes of the franchise.

Don’t get wrong, RE4 definitely was an outstanding Remake, but RE5… I just get less excited about a Remake for that over something like Code Veronica.

RaidenBlack629d ago

Nope.
Rather remake other past Capcom & non-mainline RE games ... IF they have to continue churning out Remakes.
I'd rather want a new 3rd person RE spin-off
Dino Crisis and Onimusha Reboot
New IPs after Pragmata ships

jeromeface628d ago

show this man the door... he overserved himself.

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