Does The PS3 Have More Stable Software Than The 360?

PSXE writes: We all know about the reliability catastrophe that is the Xbox 360. There's no denying that Microsoft basically screwed everyone over by releasing a shoddy machine that breaks about 30% of the time, and further screwed everyone over by taking more than two years to fix it. And now, even if the "Red Ring of Death" system failure is out of the way, we've heard about a new nasty error that crashes 360 machines. But that's not the point of this article; it's more about the software.

[Straight Life]

End of 2009
PS3 Game lineup >360 Game Line up

[s8anicslayer]

I don't know about games, but hardware yes!

[ShabzS]

my 360 has crashed twice during gta 4... i havent experienced any major glitches yet... but in terms of hardware stability i'm sorry my xbox is crap... i mean i have to pop the game disc in and out 10 15 times for it to read the game ... it keeps giving me 'Play DVD' even if theres gears 2 in it..

[thereapersson]

He puts in a game and sometimes it doesn't even recognize that it's a 360 game. It tells him to "please insert an XBOX 360 disc".

[ShabzS]

yup thats the same 'Play DVD' error i'm talking about... it sucks... after booting it up twice and popping the disc in and out over again for 10 15 mins it finally works..... but by then i've lost interest to play the game... hehe.

[yz250]

you are nothing but a closet fanboy. i own both consoles, and ps3 malfunctions more than 360. i had my ps3 less than 24 hrs and it froze up. do not try to hide your bullsh1t fanboyism any more. ps3 is not perfect sorry son, only nintendo makes reliable hardware

[thereapersson]

Not only that, but you're in some serious denial of a major problem.

"...and ps3 malfunctions more than 360."

Why on earth would you make such a stupid statement such as that? Furthermore, why would shbzhar make a statement that coincides so well with mine unless maybe it happened to him as well?

Talk about pot calling the kettle black!

[Strikepackage Bravo]

I know its hard to believe because most of you here are PS3 fans, and you like to think that your system of choice is the better option in everyway.

But while I was at Bestbuy, we were bothered by all the malfunctions of the consoles when customers returned to geek squad (or called) with problems. PS3 had the most, 360 2nd, Wii hardly ever. 360 has RROD and disk scratching; the rest of its issues are quite rare. PS3 however has a couple hardware issues that we see alot, although not as often as RROD, and a ton of software issues, usually small but annoying. Most are fixed with a reboot. 360 on the other hand almost never needs to be rebooted, like i said its main issue is RROD and disk scratching.

The thing I think I hate about PS3 the most is when it fails, you can't get your games out of it, really sux.

If you believe PS3 is more advanced than the other two then perhaps you can feel better by considering that it has more that can go wrong due to its advanced nature?

[SaiyanFury]

I don't know, I have both a 360 and a PS3. I've had a few disc read errors on my 360 where games froze, but I've also had it happen a couple of times with my PS3. Of course, on the PS3 it was only Oblivion that locked up. But that's not the system, that's the game as I've had it lock up on me many times while playing it on my PC. Not only that, I've had Oblivion game saves corrupt on me. Fallout 3 on my PC also locks up regularly, of course that game is based on Oblivion's game engine, which seems to be unstable. I've never had my 360 have a format read problem where it reads a 360 disc as a foreign format asking for a 360 disc. Just my personal testimony here.

[Doctor_Doom]

So I don't Care ;)

Besides I have no problems with my 2005 xbox360 and my PS3

[vagisil]

thank you and come again ok........... blow harder you might get farther

[vagisil]

this is news for sony fanboys how can his post be right??? ps3 never fux up never falters it is so damn perfect!!!

[gaffyh]

@Shbzshar - Your 360 drive is dying. I used to get the same thing, luckily I was still within 1 year of warranty so I got it fixed for free. Call MS (tell them you bought the console like 9 months ago) and if they replace it for free great, but if not you may have to force RROD.

@bravo & others - So basically, PS3 malfunctions more, but these are little errors that do not affect the console. Just need a restart and the console works fine. Most of the time these errors are caused by the user switching the PS3 off from the back when it is still powered up. With the 360, it tends not to have these little errors, but when it starts dying you can't play the console. I've had to send my console in 3 times twice for disk read errors (MS didn't fix it the first time), and once for RRoD.

So major errors more likely on 360, minor errors more likely on PS3.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Prior to installing NG2 on my 360, I have only had one freeze. On my PS3, I had numerous issues with freezing in the browser and in games. See my comment history. It is counter-intuitive that the more difficult architecture to program for is more reliable.

However, since I installed NG2 I had at least 5 crashes/freezes. I don't know if it is the installation or if I need to clear the cache as many recommended. The odd thing is, the game froze, but going to Xbox dash still works....

If anything, I'm convinced of the opposite. Ben Dutka, the author of this article, though is a Sony drone. Just look at his article history. They are all Pro Sony without the opposite view. He probably doesn't even have a 360.

[king dong]

1) does n4g have the biggest gathering of sony fanboys on the net?

2) is there a plethora of blog sites, that write the most stupidest and biggest load of rubbish especially for n4g?

i think the answer is most definately yes!

[gamesR4fun]

we had the same issue with star ocean n gears dont even get me started on saints row or fable sigh
n now its got the disk read error thing damn us for buying a first gen box
imo their pushing the machine way 2 hard trying to keep up with the ps3

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Since when is pushing the machine harder a bad thing? So if the PS3 is using 100% of it's power is that a bad thing all of a sudden?

[3XP]

Second, a clueless person should not try and make statements in areas that he or she has no expertise. Unless this dim wit is a software engineer how does he know whether his problem is a software or hardware problem.

I have had program lockup on me on my PC because I had a bad stick of memory. I have had game freeze on me because I had outdated video drivers.

Trust me folk this LAME-A$$ article was written to produce negative FUD about the 360. But people that write these articles already know you typical nextgen fanboy can't resist the temptation.

[KionicWarlord222]

star ocean 4 does freeze up sometimes . Gears has minimum glitches
that i would call lag sometimes...lol which it is sometimes/

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

gears? minimum glitches? LOL

[phosphor112]

I got chainsawed by my NPC teammate and died. My friend had to run past our split up path and come back to pull me up before I died.

I did a dive roll towards a pillar, I ended up POPPING UP ON TOP of the pillar..and was stuck..my friend had to once again run ahead until I spawned next to him.

I have fallen in those emergence holes lots of times.

Gotten stuck in geometry (walls and such)

My friend said im not allowed to play that game anymore, cuz i "break" it lol. Well...I can give you other examples of games I have "broken"..including R6 Vegas lol..funny stuff..I can go on about what happened, but it wouldnt be as funny as being there.

[pixelsword]

and by little, I mean a lot.

[KionicWarlord222]

meant gears 2 has minimum glitches. only reason said that is becauseits hard to tell if its lag or a glitch.

[pixelsword]

Yeah, I can agree with Gears 2 being less glitchy.

[phosphor112]

But i was still disappointed..I don't think MS should force devs to push out games. Lol..I still want the meat cube xD. Should have that as like unlocked content after you beat the game lol. Just for fun..push a button and 1 falls from the sky xD. I'm gonna watch a video of that again. =P

[ShabzS]

hehe .. i thought the shiny metal ball thingy was better ... but imagine co-op football with the meat cube now that is gears...

[PotNoodle]

I LOVE gears, but come on - gears of war 2 has too many problems, lag (still, not as bad as before though) matchmaking is still too slow compared to other games, and still too many glitches.

[be_wrong]

comparing the 360's quality to the ps3 would be a joke. the ps3 was built to stand the test of time, software or hardware that is. the 360 even has problems after pluging it in for the first time

[Why dis]

I find that PS3 has more issues with system software than any console I have ever owned. Game software on PS3 has been good except KZ2, IT had issues and PS3 game demos are sometimes a mess(crash PS3 leaving a black screen)

Don't pretend PS3 doesn't have issues. Blu-ray playback is sometimes unstable and I get signal loss from the PS3. PS StorE has incomplete software like most of it was tacked on(buy PSN games and the PS3 is struggling so much I feel like its not going to let me buy the game and lose my money.

You name a PS3 error and I probably had it.

Love importing CD's and the PS3 sometimes pop an error but if you keep trying it will follow through.

[cryymoar]

your isolated PS3 issues DOES NOT EQUAL (anywhere near) the general xb360 issues.
EVERY piece of hardware and software has its issues, even a microwave can have hardware and software issues. Don't try to bring the PS3's minor glitches up to par with the xb360's major faults. take your fanboyism over there >>>>>>>

[Omegasyde]

"I find that PS3 has more issues with system software than any console I have ever owned."

A bit ironic, since you do not have a PS3 and have stated your waiting for a additional price cut. Let alone, you constantly troll everything PS3 related downsizing anything postitive for Sony in general.

"U Gawt Cauwt dawg"

[ps3blowz]

now i know why my ps3 fux up after an "update"

[FlameBaitGod]

lol y do people argue with why this ? that kid is 1 of the 360 fanboy legends on N4G.

[jakinov]

it's so slow and missing so many features, it's gay.

[Elvfam511]

lol somebody is mad

That's funny because i multitask a lot on the ps3 look why dis take yourself somewhere else maybe somebody will care

[Why dis]

I'm afraid to multi task on it one time it caused an error trying to do more than one thing at once. That last update killed my PS3 controller connection I finally turned it on and off a few times and it worked.

I'v even had an errors when the console switched resolutions from XMB(1080p) to game(720p) etc the screen went black the console crashed or something.

There was another time when my PS3 switched resolutions when loading a game and these little vertical squiggly lines were in a bar that took one fifth on my screen, when I returned to the XMB screen I had to change resolutions and back again to get rid of them.

My PS3 even confused PSN *game demos* with PSN full demos not letting me own the game until it sunk in so to speak.

Who knows they're so many different types of PS3's that have different hardware specs.

[cryymoar]

that's probably compatibility issues between your PS3 and your TV.
take your trolling over there >>>

[pixelsword]

"That last update killed my PS3 controller connection I finally turned it on and off a few times and it worked."

So turning on and off your PS3 a few times will erase software updates. Despite the fact that no other console, nay, computing machine works like that ANYWHERE.

If the last update "killed" your PS3 controller connection, that would be something that would have to be patched. Turning on and off your PS3 a few times won't magically make it work. If that actually did happen to you, it was a glitch, which makes me wonder how you keep your house if you're having this many problems.

Heck, trade it in for another one; or if you were having this many troubles all this time, you should have sent it in for repairs when you had the warranty.

[FPShooter]

I have had my console since launch and I can honestly say I have never had any of those problems your speaking of.

frankly I don't believe you, but if you are having that many problems I cant imagine it happening to a more deserving person.

[Omegasyde]

Why is the software homosexual?

Please explain, because I thought the software for the PS3 had more of a metro sexual vibe to it.

[PirateThom]

I'd say it's about even.

Both consoles need patches in a lot of cases, many games suffer freezing issues and bugs.

Welcome to the world of internet connections and consoles with Hard drives, eh?

[swiftshot93]

I can accept it in open world games, but if you install and it and if it is optimized well enough there should be no issue (look at RE5, MGS4).

Then there are great looking games like ME, Bioshock, Gears, and Uncharted that have a lot of it.

[Perkel]

uncharted ? There is a only one glith with loading textures on the beggining. That's All

[ChilliDemon]

I've had Uncharted freeze on me once. Oblivion has treated me to several freezes.
However, given the complexity of modern games software it always surprises me that these things run as well as they do.

[deshon09]

ms may have the better software but it relay means nothing unless you have functional hard ware witch the 360 dose not have i rater have ok software than have great software and hardware that will not work no mater how much they fix on it

[Strife Lives]

I own +-45-50 360 games and 10 PS3 games,so in all fairness,I would have more crashes on my 360 than ps3.but,I must admit,GTA4,DOA4 and a few other games use to freeze or crash my 360,but after the NXE update,its never happend.I had a few crashes with Oblivion on PS3,but from what Ive read,thats more a software problem.but,what was annoying,was when my Ps3 freezes when I try copying some family holiday pics from my pc through the ps3 via cable.It just says copying. . . . . . . ,and stays there.annoying.any of you know whats up with that?lol if its me causing it by not copying the right way or something.

[DNAgent]

Why did they say this in the form of a question?

[dylantalon]

i too also experience a lot of software issues while playing games on xbox 360. i experienced lag, slowdowns and glitches in perfect dark 0. i experienced a lot of freezing issues in oblivion e.s 4. gears of war had a lot of slowdowns, glitches and lag. gears of war 2 came out and have a lot of lag, slowdowns and glitches . even after 3 patches for gears of war 2, it still suffers from a lot of lag, slowdowns and glitches. mass effect had glitches and slowdowns, forza 2 suffered from lag, and slowdowns. s.o.4 suffers from a lot of freezing issues and ive been talking about that since day one.

i myself have always wondered why a lot of xbox 360 games are plagued with problem . gears 2 is my fav game on the xbox 360 and its online is broken because of the excessive lagging and glitching issue. i play killzone 2, resistance 2 , socom confrontation, gt 5 prologue, motorstorm 2 a lot and none of those games have any sort of issues . the software on the ps3 is definitely more stable than that of the xbox 360 .

ps. the talon stands for talented

[Kushan]

You've only played a handful of games on the 360 and according to your own profile, you've played 2 games on the 360 in the last 2 years. You've not played Gears 2 since before Christmas (i.e. you've not tried it since the patches you claim didn't work), you never played Mass Effect and you certainly haven't played Star Ocean, so just how much of your comment is true and how much did you make up just because you're in love with the PS3?

No, really, he's in love, this is what his XBL profile (Here: http://live.xbox.com/en-US/... ) says:

"i'm on my 6th xbox 360 so i think xbox is rubbish. my favourite system is the ps3 because its reliable and more powerful.i cant wait til killzone 2 is out on the ps3 cause its the best game ive ever seen on any gaming system. i want to marry my ps3. ohh yeah,xbox sucks and im sick of paying for laggy xbox live cause psn is free without lag on all the exclusives. i cant turn on my xbox and not worry if it will show red ring of death or disc error. PS3 is the future and the future is PS3."

You want to marry your PS3? Priceless.

[Why o why]

thats some 'murder she wrote sh!t' for +1 for that BUT I can play gears 2 and notice lag even though i dont own a 360.....why....... because i have friends and family who own the game so its not impossible now is it. We are not all bonded to 'gamertags' like the matrix:) At least he puts his gt up. ..........LOL @ profile comment;)

[MiloGarret]

WOW... that is some serious owning right there.

Thank you, that was priceless indeed.

Oh, off topic, I just got Killzone 2 and it facking rocks! I recommend it to anyone with any sort of interest in fps's that require skill and intelligence. Get it, get it now!

[Kushan]

I've played every game he mentions, with Star Ocean being the only exception (it has not been released here) and I've never experienced the problems he's complaining about. Lost Odyssey had some slow texture streaming, but that's typical of all Unreal Engine games (360 or PS3, doesn't seem to matter). I got my 360 at the end of summer 2007 as well (it was September IIRC).

I've also not had a single issue with any of my PS3 games, either, but I have heard reports of both consoles crashing on occasion. I don't think it's the console itself, I think it's just typical bugs in the games, bugs that would be the same on either system.

[Omegasyde]

The internet browser on the PS3 always crashes on me when loading up certain sites ie n4g.

I tried to find a clear solution, but even after deleting the cache and cookies site still crash.

I haven't had any serious issues on software besides the Socom issues where the game isn't 100% complete i.e. missing features.

I am still waiting on that patch.

[MiloGarret]

I've had a lot more crashes with my 360 so far, actually I've only had one on my ps3, ever. On the other hand, I've spent a lot more time playing my 360 since I get most multiplats on it and very few ps3 exclusives have interested me(untill KZ2).

[XLiveGamer]

"But that's not the point of this article; it's more about the software"

LOL!!! then why bring all that B.S.?

[Strife Lives]

your detective workFTW lol, its kinda creepy though lol

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

"There's no denying that Microsoft basically screwed everyone over by releasing a shoddy machine that breaks about 30% of the time"

That is BS. Failure rate of the RROD is higher than 50%. Probably close to 90%. Almost everyone I know with a 360 suffered through the RROD.

[yz250]

i got a brand new 80 gig ps3 right here that fux up. so what now? stupid fantard. 360 ps3 all fux up too much but i will be clear you are a fvckin dumbass. ps3 isnt perfect lil boy sad it costed 400 bones what sh1t

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

ChatBox 360 games are just BORING...Zzzzzzzzzzzz...it's like playing on your P.C...Zzzzzzzzzzzz...Micr$oft are BORING...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

NONE of their games excite me. Strange that. And i'm not saying that in a Fanboy way!!! ;-D
I try and think of a MUST-HAVE 'ChatBox 360 ONLY' game but can't think of any??? Oh well...

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Where the f*ck did I say the PS3 was perfect? You dumb f*ck, learn to read.

[ultimolu]

yz250, we shouldn't accept these issues from any company. The fact that blind 360 owners defend Microsoft over the RROD sickens me. If Sony had this issue, I would fault them as well.

[TheMART]

So Juuken,

Why do PS3 owners cover up the multiple problems with the BluRay diode that dies a lot?

Mine died after just 3 weeks of use, and this is no small problem. It certainly isn't on the levels of breaking down Sony diehard fans are spreading over the internet.

Fact is, XBOX fans say yes, RROD is a problem or at least has been, with the latest Jasper doing it right like it should have the first time, at least we have a 3 year warranty.

On the other hand Sony fans deny the BluRay dying diode problem, much like the PS2 DVD diode dying fast was denied, while Sony only covers 1 year of warranty, after that I need to pay 200 Euro, thats half of a new PS3 to get someone elses refurbished PS3 back.

Now whats up with that exactly Juuken???

[ultimolu]

Mart, you're unf*ckingbelievable.

Yes, I made up a word.

I have never seen any PS3 fans covering up these alleged issues you claim to have. Most of them have said that this is not something that happens very often and I agree with that.

You just had bad luck with your PS3. It happens sometimes. Some people have bad luck with electronics. That does not mean that the PS3 has a failure rate of 99% or anything of that nature.

Most of these problems you ramble about are isolated incidents.

Use your God-given brain and grow up.

[DJ]

What did you expect?

[Foxgod]

the ps3 fans are feeling insecure again this week, the amount of topics like this give that impression more then enough.

[Boty]

Foxgod = hypocrite

And to Yz250: 360 Failure rate > Than PS3 Failure rate.

[DelbertGrady]

If stable software = sh!tty sales, then yes.

Killzone 2 at 500k versus Gears 2 doing 2 million on it's release day and Halo 3 selling close to 10 million. Yup, The PS3 software must be more "stable" lol.

How do they come up with all this bs? The PS3 media coverage is becoming more and more sect like. Written by fanboys, for fanboys.

[TheMART]

Wut?

What about my PS3 having:

BluRay dying after 3 weeks?

The first system update I had around november 2008 ended in a PS3 freezing? I had to hardboot it 10 times before it got to life again. Untill the BluRay diode died.

So software or hardware the PS3 isn't doing too good either. Have never seen a console dying that fast.

[yz250]

i got my next ps3 yesterday afternoon (thurs) it already froze once. fukin firmware you ps3 boys need an ass kicking

edit- have a bubble soda pop and mart.

[DelbertGrady]

Bubbles back before The Flood arrives.