Xbox360 Answers Killzone 2 Challenge With The CryEngine 3

Killzone 2 was and still is for the moment the PS3's claim to fame. Sony brags of the game being so advanced that the 360 couldn't possibly handle it. However the PC for years has been the platform of choice for the graphics whores of the world. Crysis is widely considered by many to be the best looking game of all time. So now comes word that Crytek has developed the CryENGINE 3 designed just for consoles and Crytek believe that they can pull of Crysis level visuals for not only the PS3 but the Xbox 360 as well. With this news one could assume that Crysis level graphics appearing on the 360 would be a huge blow to Sony.

[grantps3]

trey 4 life

[Shaka2K6]

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[snipermk0]

never understand. HHG is fishing for hits and you take the bait. See the new single ad on their front-page? Thats what this is all about.

[AngryTypingGuy]

"hhg is just a turd burgler that took money from MS and everybody knows it. You used to have street cred and now all you got is street crud from doin MS. Right after you started meeting with MS you flipflopped. You took money and you are a sellout. You are something else too and it rhymes with whore."

Yeah, until the next time he praises Sony and says that the PS3 does something better than the 360, which he will. You Sony FAnGirlS amaze me every time you cry conspiracy. HHG is one of those guys who praises both systems. He calls it like he sees it, like he should.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Good name for the xBot Zombie DLC Lemmings!!! When they saw KillZone 2 running they were CRYING!!! ;-D

'CRYING-ENGINE 3' ;-D

xBox 360 is MAXED-OUT, Sorry xBots your stuck with your N64 looking games!!! ;-D

[cereal_killa]

News4Goons aka PP can you be anymore of a jealous Muppet. Killzone is already confirmed AAA there nothing you can do go play your Banjo Kazooie for the 60th time

[Parapraxis]

How would it be a blow to Sony if the same engine and games are being made for both consoles?

[StoneySweatLeafs]

It would be a blow because everyone thinks that PS3 has better graphics. If the 360 can run Crysis then that claim goes out the window.

[chaosatom]

:)

[s8anicslayer]

Cryengine is going to run on both systems, so I don't see the point of this post?

"Crytek has developed the CryENGINE 3 designed just for consoles and Crytek believe that they can pull of Crysis level visuals for not only the PS3 but the Xbox 360 as well."

so whats his point? the title to the story should be "Crytek Answers Killzone 2 Challenge With The CryEngine 3"

[ssj]

Because PS3 fans always crying about how the 360 can't match the graphics of Killzone and Uncharted so now they look retarded.

[Ghoul]

what a weak headline

cryenegine is pc/360/ps3 and its from crytek not microsoft or anything ms related.

[PtRoLLFacE]

u couldn't say it any better lol and is not about the engine is about the developers, what the point of having a super engine when the games come out sh!tty as hell, a good developer will make good games and doesn't matter what engine they use

[arika]

we need proof. talk is cheap. show us the money then we'll talk. i mean they haven't really showed us anything that would make us believe that it can even compete with the guerilla games engine. we will just have to wait, but i doubt it, if they can match killzone 2's awesomeness. well, in the slim chance that i might be wrong there is always killzone 3, god of war 3 and uncharted 2 to prove to us gamers that ps3 is still the champ in console gaming.

[morganfell]

http://ve3d.ign.com/article...

Multiplatform engine.

The Rage engine from Id is a multiplatform engine and look which console received the better looking version. Case closed.

By the way, this is a game engine, not just a graphics engine. This includes the sound engine. Ah the PS3. I love uncompressed audio.

If anything 360 owners should be worried that there will be a dedicated PS3 title running that engine. Also, just remember the last game engine 360 owners bragged on was left in the dust by Killzone 2.

Until the Xbox 360 is shown to run the Cry Engine 3 as well as the PS3 and it looks better than anything on the PS3, including Killzone 2 then it is just a lot of fairy dust, flights of fancy, and wishful thinking by 360 backers.

It sounds a great deal like the local redneck as he says, "Wait until I build my car. It will outrun anything you have ever seen" We all know how that story ends and it isn't like the one in Grease.

Multiplatform games where developers are afraid to alienate 360 owners so they cripple PS3 versions are the last semblance of salvation the 360 has left.

The proof in this case is in the playing. More promises, guarantees, threats, and "just wait and sees" are merely talk.

With that Cryengine 3 comes some extremely detailed environments, large textures, complex physics, 3D positional sound, and all types of other requirements that will inevitably fill more than a DVD9 disc. Self hobbling media is the legacy of the 360 and there is nothing that can be done about it this generation.

[Motion]

But I'm pretty sure I read another article about cryEngine3, and they said that it would be scalable for whatever platform it was on. So if that is the case, one console could look better than another based on how high it can be scaled.

[thebudgetgamer]

or is anyone else tired of people signing up to "our" web site to spread their fanboy propaganda?

:(

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

So now its a 360 engine? LOL. Crytek answers Killzone 2 is more like it. Stop giving credit to the 360.

[morganfell]

They say Cryengine 3 and I say Killzone 3.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

1. Just cuz the cryengine had nice graphics on pc's doesnt mean it'll reach that same level on consoles. PC's have more power and thats ultimately wat it boils down to.

2. if the 360 can produce those graphics then that only means the ps3 can do better cuz its more powerful.

3. stop letting HHG's dumb "journalists" take over this site.

[zodiac909]

YOU TYPED THE EXACT I MEAN "EXACT" WORDS I WAS GOING TO SAY!!

[Mikerra17]

if it is coming to both wtf is the point of this article, btw I dont know if hiphopgamer wrote this himself but seriously he should watch his people that write for him

[popup]

If it said source Hiphopgamershow under definitions in a dictionary.......

[morganfell]

The article is misleading in it's title and intentionally so. Therefore is not informative news. It is disinformation and not the sort of story that should be published here.

[Sitdown]

"well, in the slim chance that i might be wrong there is always killzone 3, god of war 3 and uncharted 2 to prove to us gamers that ps3 is still the champ in console gaming"

Seriously....how is the ps3 still the champ in console gaming. If you said Sony, I could somewhat understand.......but how is the ps3 still the champ? Ohhh, and its hard for you to make the argument that there is killzone 3, GOW 2, and uncharted 2.....when none of them have been released....just like no game for the cryengine 3 has been released.....first lets see a game released Cryengine 3 before you can make the assumption that those ps3 exclusives will surpass it.

[morganfell]

It's easy to make the case for those engines because they or their predecessor have all been shown running on the PS3. Pwned.

Sweetwater would translate the matter as ACTA NON VERBA.

[Doppy]

I get what their saying. The article basically says that if the 360 ends up being able to run Crysis like graphics then that's another advantage that Sony loses against the 360 (along with price, online, etc...).

The thing is that while the 360 would be able to display it's true power by running Crysis, the PS3 exclusives ALL look amazing. Killzone 2 is a shinning example of everything in one package, but Heavy Rain probably has the best character models ever in a video game. And with Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 coming out (which also look amazing) the PS3 still has nothing to worry about. Every year the PS3 1 up's it's graphical capabilities. Launch Resistance:FOM (looked good at the time), 2007 Uncharted/Ratchet/Heavenly Sword (amazing to this day), 2008 MGS4 (stood out among everything else Gears 2 was it's only competition), and 2009 has already launched with Killzone 2 and more to come, so the future looks bright for the PS3 as well as the 360.

I admit I love games that look good, but more importantly we should care about how the game plays rather than its look.

[y0haN]

Report this flamebait crappy article.

[Sarcasm]

So let me get this straight, the 360 which has claimed to be "easier to develope for" and has "a better developer's kit" and has the all-mighty "unreal engine" and has been out for 3 years going on 4, and still hasn't produced anything near the likes of Killzone 2?

The PS3 has more than enough examples of games with great graphics. Wipeout HD, Uncharted, R&C Future, GT5P, Killzone 2, and then the non-released games like Uncharted 2, GoWIII, Heavy Rain, etc.

So why would a 3rd party multi-platform engine which is going to give identical results, be a foothold to compare to PS3 graphics?

If anything, it will show that the PS3 is nowhere near it's cap and the 360 is already peaked.

[pumpkinpunker]

"They say Cryengine 3 and I say Killzone 3."

And I say you're an idiot because Crysis looks much better than KZ2. By the time KZ3 comes out there will be a new Xbox anyway. Get used to the PS3 being the worst console this generation. It will never surpass the 360.

@morganfell

No, it didn't surpass the 360. KZ2 looks slightly better than Gears 2. And what Gears 2 lacks in graphics it makes up with a better campaign and multiplayer. I find it amusing all the Sony fanboys are total graphics whores now when the PS2 was the weakest console in that department last gen. I guess the desperate will cling to anything.

KZ2 metascore 92 - 1 million sold
Gears 2 metascore 93 - 4.67 million sold
Halo 3 metascore 94 - 9+ million sold

Tell me who surpassed who? KZ2 is nothing but a blip on the radar and I actually prefer Gears 2 graphics because of the far superior art direction and more creative environments/enemies. But graphics are only 10% of a game's quality and Halo 3 owns KZ2 like a red headed stepchild. Halo's only competition is COD4 right now and Gears of War 2 as a longshot.

Sorry, for bringing up critics opinions of games that actually know what they're talking about and what other gamers buy who actually play games as proof of a game's superiority. I guess Morganfell is the all-knowing game master because he found a little clique on N4G and he has an opinion like everyone else. Lose the high school mentality. It's pretty weak and you look desperate.

[morganfell]

"They say Cryengine 3 and I say Killzone 3.

And I say you're an idiot because Crysis looks much better than KZ2. By the time KZ3 comes out there will be a new Xbox anyway. Get used to the PS3 being the worst console this generation. It will never surpass the 360."

And I say learn to read the rules before you post here. Or is 'idiot' one of those words now permitted in this zone?

And just so you are aware, the PS3 already passed the 360. This is after all a discussion about game engines. Buhbye.

Edit: I love people that let everyone else tell them what to think. So reviewers know better than anyone else? You do realize where Metascores originate, right? While you are reading those reviews go look at what those same reviewers said about Killzone 2. Nothing on this planet touches that engine. Sorry, but you just pwned yourself.

You did realize this article is about game engines and not reviews or sales, right? Quality, not quantity. By your argument GTA IV looks better than Gears 2. And remember, those same reviewers said GTA IV looked better on the PS3. That even came from Team Xbox.

People like you can't exercise a valid debate so here's an ignore button for you. Have a nice life.

[harrisk954]

I don't know why this bozo's "articles" continue to get approved. YOu can always tell a HHG article: They rarely have any basis in fact and nine times out of ten, they have some crazy, misleading, flamebaiting title...

[Danja]

well it's also on the PS3 so it's not really a blow to Sony..

Uncharted 2 IMO already looks better than KZ2 , but it isn't out yet so KZ2 is still Champ..

The 360 has yet to have a game look better than MGS4 a year old PS3 game.....so until we see the CryEngine 3 in motion the 360 it's best to not say nothing on it

[BX81]

Yes it would run for both the PS3 and 360 but you couple that with a lower price(360) then you have a slight edge in the console war. Right now the 360 doesn't have a game that looks like KZ2 but what if it did? Would you spend more money to get the same look or less. I personally own both systems and if this article is true then it would be great for gaming. Both systems with great looking games. I don't think either console will ever be too far behind the other. I just hope for great looking games for all gamers.

[joevfx]

I'll tell you why this article is wrong. When a company makes a multiplat game they aren't going to make one look better then the other, it's bad for buisness. They also will never tell anyone especially the media if on of the systems is not letting the other system perform to it's highest abilty. The only way to tell the power of one system to the other are by compairing exclusive, games that are specifically built to take advantage of one system only.

[morganfell]

But you do not have a valid argument because the price of the 360 is a sleight of hand. It only looks cheaper at first pass. Over time? No. And more advanced games require more disc space...as we have already seen that isn't a 360 strong suit.

[lokiroo420]

All that need to be said, and its from the open zone,
"WHY DOES THIS CRAP GET APPROVED!

THE AUTHOR EVEN JUST SIGNED UP SO THAT HE CAN POST THIS!

THERE ARE NO FACTS, THERE'S A MIS-LEADING TITLE, IT'S ALL stupid speculation. (Just because an ENGINE runs on another system doesn't mean it'll be able to pull off the same visuals as a game that was on another system - compare World at War on Wii to PC/360/PS3)"

[mt]

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[thats_just_prime]

LOL at all the sony fanboys screaming about KZ3 already. I seriously doubt there will be a KZ3 sony throw 100 million dollars into making KZ2 and the game barely broke 1 million copies shipped. Plus it took them 5-6 years to make the game so if there is a KZ3 it wont be out will well into the life of the ps4

[RyuStrife]

Sounds pretty dumb for a title here. Anyways, it's not how "great" an engine is, it's how the developers use it. Even if the engine is the best of the best, if the developers suck at using it, then the game will have issues.

[Marceles]

lol @ source...I knew it before I even clicked on it

[rockleex]

You DO realize that most of those 4-5 years spent making Killzone 2, was actually spent MAKING THE ENGINE right?

PS3 exclusives aren't like 360 exclusives that use existing engines. They have to build everything from the ground up to fully utilize the PS3.

Obviously Killzone 3 will take just 2 years to make if they don't totally revise the engine.

And why can't we talk about Killzone 3 when the article is mentioning CryEngine 3? An engine that hasn't been shown on the console yet. Why can't we talk about what Killzone 3 will offer with its proven console engine?

This article is comparing a non-proven console engine to a proven console engine. Yet we're the ones that get called out?

I fail to see your logic... if there is any.

[littletad]

Point of the ps3 was that it was "more powerful". That's the blow. Personally I never believed it, nor do I care which one is the best in terms of graphics.

[No Way]

The point is, they are saying that the CryEngine3 is a better graphics engine than that of Killzone2, and if they x360 can pull off what the CryEngine3 can put out than Sony's claim that the x360 cannot pull off those graphics, would put a dent in their confidence..

[rockleex]

Please stop hiding and explain why.

Are you telling me I'm wrong, and that Killzone 2 used existing engines? Therefore 4-5 years were spent making the game and NOT the engine?

Are you telling me that CryEngine has been proven to work as well on the consoles as the PC?

Or are you saying Killzone 3 will take 4-5 years also?

Please explain.

[Ju]

If at all, and its true what they say that the CE3 will use the strength of each platform, then I would like to know (and see), how the 360 will implement texture streaming and a data volume beyond 20GB. Good luck with that. Even if they can crunch the same amount of numbers, using the system behind it, and not dumping down the content, it won't look the same. (I would still think we won't see a difference because they'll dump down the PS3 version to DVD9 standards - as long as the same game using CE3 runs on both, 360 and PS3).

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Don't bother trying to convince the 360 fanboys. They already know the truth, but they just spin or make up facts to prove their point. 5-6 years to develop Killzone 2? Please... that alone, invalidates his whole comment.

[Danja]

Your honestly gonna tell me that after playing games like

Uncharted
MGS4
KZ2
R:C : FTOD

the PS3 isn't more powerful in producing better graphics ??? the 360 is in it's 4th year now , and the PS3 already has outdone it...that speaks volume , both console can produce good graphics but we all know Exclusives are what show what the console can really do...games like

Infamous
M.A.G
Uncharted 2
Heavy Rain
GOW3
are really showing off what Sony had promised..

[Sprudling]

"CryENGINE 3: Next generation engine, rumoured for a 2011-2012 launch."

http://ve3d.ign.com/article...

The first game using this engine won't be out for a VERY long time! Will the 360 even exist in 2012?

[rockleex]

We don't give bubbles to fanboys, no matter which side they're on.

@Microsoft Xbox 360

Yup, its just funny how they're disagreeing with facts. :P

[robep3]

Should REMEMBER is that Crytek said months back they have a seperate team working on the PS3 version now we know the PS3 has more raw processing power , I mean the PC version will have better visuals than the console version due to higher res on monitors above HD SO who can rule out that the PS3 MAY have better physics our something like that due to the extra GFLOPS available.
cell 204 gflops xenon 115 gflops (IBM figs)

[littletad]

Those are some amazing looking games no doubt. I'm not ridiculing the ps3's power. But what I'm saying is that I personally don't believe that it's superior to the 360. In fact I don't even think the opposite. I think they are neck and neck. Name one game for the 360 that has been developed for more than 3 years and shows off it's full capabilities? I think the only game is Halo 3. But Bungie consistently said they weren't shooting for a graphic extravaganza. Since alot of games for the 360 coincide with a pc counterpart, it's obvious there hasn't been a game long in development and built from the ground up just for the 360. Killzone 2 is amazing, and part of that is because of how long it was in development and because it was exclusive. Other helpful proof to that theory is that the 360 multiplatform games still outperform the ps3 counterparts to this day. I doubt anything hiphopgamer says, but what if this claim is partially true? Then the ps3 really isn't more powerful. Or we could just wait and see if Alan Wake proves us wrong.

[Gantrfaxx]

...even if X360 can handle Crysis graphichs, which i doubt it still cannot handle Kz2 graphics. This proves nothing. I'm far more impressed wtih Kz2 than with Cryis

[crazy-eyez-killah]

Does he expect people to take him seriously when he cant even get simple info right?

"Crytek has developed the CryENGINE 3 designed just for consoles"

Its for PC aswell you douche. Anyway, at what point have Crytek said they will bring Crysis level graphics to console? Oh, thats right, never.

[Danja]

ok fair enough argument.

But do you really think Bungie would have blatantly stated that the 360 really can't produce the kinda graphics they had set out to do ?? Do you remember that Infamous 'Pre-Rendered "Target" Trailer ??? The game was no where close to looking like that , why is that ??

Everyone knows that most Multi-Plat games are made on the 360 then ported or optimized for the PS3 hardware which will always lead to the 360 having the edge in a few areas , where as when they make the games 1st on the PS3 then port it over the end result is always better...that I think the whole Multi-plat being superior is a rubbish claim this late in the game , another no dev is going to make the game look better on any platform by a significant margin , it doesn't matter how powerful X console is..

As for "Alan Wake" I still dont see what's so mind blowing about the graphics in this age , I think "Heavy Rain" already looks better but I haven't seen much of Alan Wake so it's really not fair to say ...but right now ...the last Trailer I saw of Alan Wake...The Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain graphics already looks better...

[SuperM]

First of all its not a blow to sony as this engine is actually optimized for the ps3 so there will be no sloppy ports using this engine. Secondly this engine is highly scalable and supposed to be working with the next generation of consoles aswell. Does that mean that xbox360 is going to be able to run graphics on the same level as the next generation of consoles? Ofcourse not, but in hiphopgamers head it seems like it. Because nowhere has crytek said that the 360 will be able to run graphics comparable to crysis on max settings. We are probably talking about downscaled graphics of somewhere between medium and high. And KZ2 already looks better then that.

[emitsomla]

Pro PS3 Sony Cult Members infest N4G. This fact creates problems for the bubble system; and now the system is broken. In my earlier posts, I presented sound, logical, and non-bias facts on why the PS3 and 360 are not that much different from one another. Facts where given to show how the PS3 has the processing and storage advantage, and the 360 has the memory and graphic advantage.... This is fact. I have both systems, so i am no fan boy. However, since my un-biased posts were not what Sony Cult Members wanted to hear, I lost bubbles. When we speak good about Sony, we gain bubbles. It is not cool to be punished for presenting my opinions, and arguments in a civilized, logical, non-biased way. The bubble system is broken, Sony Cult Members have made it so. You can not have a system where the majority dictates. The reason is, fanboyism clouds the judgment and minds of people...

[Dandiego]

Who cares if Microsoft has an engine to reply to Killzone 2 it could still make bad games... Killzone 2 controls suck so engines don't excite me all that much... good games do!!! COD Modern warfare 2 I'm waiting for you.

[Premonition]

I dont know why this would make MS happy since the engine is made for both consoles and on top of that Killzone 2 was made in house something to be proud of, this just shows you MS relys on third party to do the dirty work for them.

[Sitdown]

"this just shows you MS relys on third party to do the dirty work for them. "

And music execs make money off artist......not exactly sure your point here......or how this is any different what other people have done over the years. In addition, I am not sure Microsoft said it would be happy...but the reality is, it would be a good thing...because if the claim is Microsoft could never do KZ2 and the cryengine comes along and makes a game look just as good.........again it becomes a selling point for Microsoft that for a hundred dollars less, you are capable of the same quality of game.

[IcarusOne]

For starters, the headline is misleading. But I think the point might stands, simply because the two consoles would be on par. As is, KZ2's dominance is much more opinion than fact. But I wonder, derived from a PC engine, would this interface more easily with the 360? Or would this make the PS3 easier to program for?

[Cajun Chicken]

Anyone forgot that the PS3 is going to get exactly the same visuals with CryEngine 3? Not a worry. A incredible first party engine and a possible middleware engine is much better than just a middleware engine to exercise a machine.
Oh well, that just means the PS3 gets twice as many impressive games and once again, the 360 will hide behind a middleware engine instead of showing what it can actually do with its own inhouse made engines.

[Sevir04]

thats a pretty late answer with the wrong engine if you ask me.. HHG's editors really need to be shot with these unoriginal illinformed articles really they do. I'll approve it to see who else takes a bite

[Beg For Mercy]

nooooooooooooo, it wont have the same particle effects definitely not the same lighting

[The Peoples ARMPIT]

Ha talk is cheap i say let the M$ butt buddies prove us wrong. The desperation from you 360 loyalists is quite frankly sad. Why don't you answer to M$ and tell them to pony up an AAA exclusive that matches the other competitors? Multiplats are not gonna cut it for your system so stop ridding on every multiplat games d##k like "OMG this game is better than Killzone2", no no better yet "OMG Need for Speed:Shift looks better than Gran Turismo 5" (even though there hasn't been any know information or screen shot shown as of yet). I think you understand where im coming from.

Crytek might be able to (maybe match) killzone2's level of detain on both the console but the real question is will the game be as technically advance as killzone2? with lightning effects, wind that blows your grenades back at you and reacts in such a realistic way that it holds you back when trying to move or sprint (aka train level).

The sheer amount of stuff going on around the player i don't think will ever be matched. Let alone the amazing physic and the unscripted death animations. The fact that Killzone 2 uses 200 lights in each level while other 3rd grade games use maximum up to 8 in a whole level shows the superiority of killzone 2.

It's funny because many gamers who have played crysis have always said apart from the awesome visuals the game lacked any sort of complexity or reward to the player when advancing on the enemy. It was all visuals and nothing too groundbreaking. The enemies fall flat when shot and it almost felt like you bought a graphics simulator instead of a proactive game.

Disagree all you want but anybody that has played Killzone 2 on a High Definition TV set with surround sound will tell you that it is one of the (if not the best) gaming experience you will ever have. Accompanied with a multiplayer component that reach out, grabs you and never lets go until you have to maybe go to the bathroom or something.

Basically what i'm trying to say is that Killzone 2 is far ahead of it's time and now that a system which has been on the market a year longer and supposedly easy to develop for has not released a game of it's caliber, all of a sudden they are feeling the pressure to trump the ps3 which has been on the market for only 1.9 years in Pal territories.

Oh yeah by the way, HipHopGamer can suck my d##k. Stupid f####t always misleading people with flaimbait headlines. Can't you bloody Americans ever be creative geesh.

[PirateThom]

Is everyone aware that just because Crysis looks like God on a PC doesn't mean Cryengine will be remotely close to that on consoles?

We all do know this, yes?

[cmrbe]

You need an alot more ram and a $300 graphics card lol!.

[HDgamer]

Didn't Crytek claim that Crysis can't be done on the consoles?

[Bnet343]

How do we all know this if we haven't even seen a screenshot of the console versions? I love you PirateThom.

[labaronx]

Yep I remember the developers of Crytek stating CRYSIS was too advanced for the ps3 and 360

[PirateThom]

I'm assuming based on the fact games that look worse than Crysis on PC, still usually look better than their console counterparts. Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, whatever.

Crysis isn't even a great game, it's a tech demo more than anything. Which is why I can't understand why people want it on consoles, without the uber graphics there's not a lot there.

[Ju]

I don't think CE2 is a good engine. It was design brute forward with the expectation that the HW can scale. Something like that is a death blow if you work on an embedded system (a game console with its physical limitations). If they could optimize their engine to allow to do some shortcuts to support specific HW feature sets, then I could imagine it can compete against console engines. Heck UE3 runs so well, because of all the shortcuts they are taking. CE2 tries to do everything perfectly correct (collisions etc). At least that's how it looks to me, and you can see that if you use underpowered HW. It does the exact same thing like on a high end card, but just slower. A scalable engine would go a different route for a lower denominator and adopt the algorithm dynamically with the power it has at its disposal. We'll see if they could reach that goal with CE3. As long as someone takes it and makes a game worth playing we all win.

[SuperM]

Gameplay in crysis is not bad. The nanosuit and the semi open world makes it a game that you can play in many different ways and you can change your own gameplay as you want it. The main reason why people say Crysis is nothing without the graphics is because the graphics are so damn good. That doesnt make the statement true though.

[Kakkoii]

Actually, CE2 is HEAVILY optimized. Nvidia partnered with Crytek and supported them with a good chunk of money to make this engine give amazing graphics, while still being playable on today's hardware.

You should take a look at the CE2 feature sheet, and see all the features it implements and optimizations it has brought to the industry.
Although, unless you have a good understanding of coding and game engines, you won't understand as fully as I do.

[Major_Tom]

Damn it HipHopGamer, just friggin' stop.

[arsenal55]

but cryengine 3 is for ps3 too... what kind of crappy fanboy article is this?

[fr0sty]

nothing has been shown developed on this engine running on a 360 that looks better than pong, so this article makes some pretty bold assumptions. will 360 ever get a game that looks as good as killzone? possibly, but just as likely that ps3 will get a game that looks even better (games like heavy rain and god of war 3 are already answering the killzone 2 challenge). when 360 ACTUALLY answers the KZ2 "challenge" i'll be interested, but until then don't waste our time with this speculative crap presented as if it were factual.

[brycespitler]

your site and articles suck

[swiftshot93]

its HHG. This means nothing.

[grantps3]

yeah seriously, the gun models and lighting IMO was better on killzone 2 than in crysis. besides just because ps3 and 360 will be using the same engine, it doesnt mean they will be equal in the graphic department.

everybody knows that crytek has been hiring ps3 devs., but there hasnt been anything on 360 yet. Im not saying crytek is doing a ps3 exclusive (that would be great), but it seems like they would have more experience with it and i think they will want to push it to its limits.

besides after the game comes out, then killzone 3 will be arriving before long, and raises the bar again.

[lord_of_balrogs]

The 360 architechture is very much like a PC's and Crytek being PC devs should have no problem with it. The PS3 on the otherhand is difficult to develop for, that's why they got Free Radical.

[cereal_killa]

Lord proof is in the Pudding, until provin this is nothing but blowing hot air.

[zag]

The 360 is a cut down PC, it won't have the grunt to keep up with a cryengine2 game let alone 3 even with a engine made for consoles.

Cryengine 2 still kills $10,000 PC rigs and is used as a major major benchmark for top end GFX cards.

Anyway I would think it would just kill 360's more than anything and with no warranty on them anymore well maybe that's what MS is wanting.

[OC Furious Dre]

Nothing on the xbox 360 console will be able to top killzone 2 in graphic quality.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

It could definately one day produce a game that will challenge KZ2 graphically. But right now it's just an engine with no game on the 360 to show for it so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Right now, KZ2 deserves the spotlight.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I've never done this...

...but GiantEnemyCrab:

Here's a bubble.

[Unicron]

More bubbles for you.

"Articles" like this are what make N4G a hilarious exercise in stupidity.

[doshey]

wow you have changed a lot giant enemy crab i use to hate you but now i can stand to read your comments, or maybe its just cause this article suck like everyone from hiphopgamer

cant believe im doing this too but heres a bubble

[Bnet343]

GEC is better than most PS3 fanboys on N4G. He defends Xbox 360 with all his might but from the comments I've seen, he handles himself pretty well.

[Jeebus]

The apocalypse really is near...

[Chris Hansen]

Did someone hijack GiantEnemyCrab's account?

[cereal_killa]

+bubbles for GEC

[likedamaster]

GEC actually knows better than to fall for a flamebait article, which is what this is.

[Aclay]

LOL, as soon as I read the title to this story, I knew it was a HipHopGamerShow article.

It's almost funny to me that there's people like this guy scrambling to find a game on the 360 that will be able to match KZ2 graphically.

A particular game engine doesn't automatically promise better graphics and just because this game engine comes from Crytek, it doesn't mean that all of a sudden, consoles like the PS3 and 360 will be able to automatically pull off identical Crysis graphics.

This guy is taking the Crysis director's quote out of proportion.

In my opinion, the 360's best chance of even coming close to matching Killzone 2 graphically will have to be an exclusive title, not a multiplatform title using CryEngine 3 because as with most multiplatform titles, the developers are more focus on making each game "equal" than going all out on each specific console.

[callahan09]

Did Sony ever say that the 360 can't handle Killzone 2? I've heard a lot of people say it, but I don't remember Sony saying it. If they did, could someone please post a link? Thanks.

[Sarcasm]

"Killzone 2 has been a long time in the making, and best showcases why PlayStation 3 is the only console powerful enough to deliver a ground-breaking title of this nature. Who better to partner with than the Official PlayStation Magazine, in order to offer the readers a special collectors edition issue. It’s a great way to celebrate the launch of this milestone game"

http://www.vgchartz.com/for...

[callahan09]

Thank you.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I don't see it happening. Maybe it could pull off SOME of those graphics, but nothing CLOSE to those graphics WITH an intricate physics system, non-scripted A.I., and field of view. It's just not possible.

[doshey]

wow amazing how smart this guy is, i really dont think the engine will come onto the 360/ps3 and have graphics as good as it being on the pc, i cant even run cyrsis on highest setting and my pc is a pretty good pc too

[kai_h]

HipHopGamer himself? Not bad. Some of the people that post on his site? ... alright I guess. By the way, it'll help the post's credibility if Blu-ray is not spelled Blue-ray in the article. Knowing that the CryEngine 3 runs on both the PS3 and 360 helps credibility as well...

[KimoNoir]

Killzones graphics aren't impressive. Its presentation is.

Observe the graphics and you'll notice that not only is it missing a significant amount of shadow and lighting but also cheats everything.

Look at the textures on the characters and environment. You know that bridge level? Look at the ground. Its terrible.

The only level with good graphics is the first level and even that cheats the lighting and textures.

Cryengine is true to next gen graphics and does not cheat its presentation.

[butterfinger]

I love playing games that run on CryEngine 3 on my 360. They look amazing and don't cheat the lighting and textures at all. Also, everything is presented in 1080p native and runs at 60FPS with no drops. /sarcasm.

[cmrbe]

It wouldn't answer much but will show how weak MS is with their internal devs.

This is too funny. Again MS relying on multi-plat engine lol!. MS can't answer KZ2 by only proving that it can have the same graphics as the PS3. Not really a good idea. In order for MS to answer KZ2. They have to produce something that is better and not possible on the PS3.

[Unicron]

Make it stop. Really make it stop.

Hey guys, I hear that Halo 14 on the Xbox Omni will look a million times better than Killzone 2! (Pay no mind that we've seen nothing of the game, or even heard of its development, but this is N4G, and thats NEWS NEWS NEWS!!!)

God this is hilariously stupid.

[ChozenWoan]

No more crappy ports for PS3 multi-platform games. Xbox360 Will now get a chance to show just how powerful the system is once and for all. Win Win for Everyone.

[II Necroplasm II]

Words of a true gamer.

[aldesko]

The 360 has had a chance to show it's power for 3 years, and we're still not seeing anything better than Gears 2/Mass Effect on the horizon.

PS3 has KZ2, U2, Heavy Rain, and GT5 coming out. Hopefully Alan Wake will be the game that steps up on 360, but we haven't even seen footage of it running on 360 yet.

[actas123]

xBoTs can stfu now. Damn xbots they are evvvveryyy where...

[SWANN]

Like Roaches

[360 man]

well done actas123 on your recent victory

[no-spin]

when i see it.
After 3 years in a easy to develop console, nothing comes close to PS3 exclusives, no comparisons whatsoever. Cryengine 3 should put the 360 in a good upgrade for games, but who says Sony will stand by and watch the show. The PS3 is young and will keep evolving, the games are more than great graphics, is real time interaction of environments and physics.
Hope the cryengine 3 delivers on 360, so that i can get more out of my 360, nice

[M337ING]

WHY DOES THIS CRAP GET APPROVED!

THE AUTHOR EVEN JUST SIGNED UP SO THAT HE CAN POST THIS!

THERE ARE NO FACTS, THERE'S A MIS-LEADING TITLE, IT'S ALL stupid speculation. (Just because an ENGINE runs on another system doesn't mean it'll be able to pull off the same visuals as a game that was on another system - compare World at War on Wii to PC/360/PS3)

[morganfell]

It is another one of hhg's paid ms drones in disguise submitting this crap. Watch and see this article get a ton a reports and then nothing will happen. This occurred the other night with the MS Bioshock article.

http://www.n4g.com/News-292...

Look what happened here to the reports. There were almost 70 reports and many of them mysteriously disappeared. Hmmmm.....

http://www.n4g.com/PopUpPag...

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

I already knew who this article was from without looking at the source.

[ukilnme]

"Crysis isn't even a great game, it's a tech demo more than anything. Which is why I can't understand why people want it on consoles, without the uber graphics there's not a lot there."

Some have made the same comment about Killzone 2. Go figure.

[aldesko]

BUT KZ2 GOT 1 POINT HIGHER ON METACRITIC!

People will always find a way to badmouth a game they wish they could play.

[Bathyj]

Nothing on XB will EVER compete with Killzone on a technical level. Artistically, yes because thats subjective, you cant say blue is better than red, its preference and you cant measure that.
On a technical level however you can and Killzone is doing way more work then any other game fullstop. I can believe going back to Gears now, how static the environments look. Its like a background not something you're actually walking through.

And multiplats prove nothing other than the XB is easier to develope for which everyone already knows and no one disputes. Sorry, but the fact Cryengine might run on XB already means it was not made with PS3's full power in mind.

[The Peoples ARMPIT]

"Sorry, but the fact Cryengine might run on XB already means it was not made with PS3's full power in mind". Man there is too much truth in that sentence right there B.

You see, that is what i have been saying for so long. It has gotten to the point where every, and i mean EVERY multiplat game that is developed for both the 360 and ps3 will fall short of what it really could have been if it where a ps3 exclusive.

I can't understand how the average 360 can sleep peacefully knowing that thy support a system that will forever hold games back from being try masterpieces. I guess that's why they Gears1/2 so much.

[jaseo]

this engine is scalable on current gen consoles (cores on xbox vs spus on ps3), and is meant to be next gen ready.

I am hoping the ps4 is scalable! clustered cells are almost as useful as embryonic stem cells.

[cmacdonald]

What did Microsoft do?

I don't get it.

[aldesko]

Sorry, your logic isn't welcome here.

[dkgshiz]

Crytek doesn't make very good games. They make a good engine, but they make bad games.

[M337ING]

Unless I'm mistaken, their three games have 89, 91, 84 on Metacritic. If that's "bad" by your standards, then let me know what godly developers you look up to...

[The Peoples ARMPIT]

Gorilla Games and Naughty Dog says high. But my number one most respected developer is Insomniac Games. I mean when another developer is able to churn out a AAA game each year, that will be the day i show them the amount of respect i have for IG.

It has gotten to the point where i don't even have to do any research or look at gameplay trailers and screenshots to buy their games. I'll simply just whoop out the wallet and hand over the cash with a big fat grin.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

The 360 is struggling to run this engine. The PS3 has already proven itself.

[Dark General]

Speculation about a announcement that may or may not happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they would announce something about the new Timesplitter game that Free Radical was going to make before they got acquired. Since you know they are apart of Crytek now and they are primarily console devs.

[artsaber]

Crytek... if you wanna impress me put Crysis on the Wii without it looking like Collecovision. LOL, until then who gives a damn about a multiplatform engine when other engines will be produced as well, especially in-house engines that work exclusively towards superior PS3 exclusives.

Is Crytek claiming that they know how to make engines for the 360 better than Microsoft 1st party folk? And that Microsoft will need to buy rights to use their new engine if they want to compete with a game out TODAY on an engine made by Guerrila Games in 2010?!!? Wow, if so then Microsoft really will be behind the curve in games.

[aldesko]

MS has first party developers?

joking... =)

[dkgshiz]

This engine is pretty lame.

[RodStewart]

This user is getting away with what others would never because he's black.

[dkgshiz]

could care less about reviews. Crysis for one, was an over hyped flop. The game had amazing graphics. The gameplay was just piss. The first Far cry was ok. The 2nd one was boring as hell.

[M337ING]

Shows how qualified you are to comment on their games, when in fact they had nothing to do with Far Cry 2.

[Gue1]

but what he said about Crysis it's kind of true... The game's not what people was expecting... but qualified or not, this it's the open zone for god sake!

dkgshiz is doing a lot by commenting here and not on the gamer zone and people are removing his bubbles...

[hagggs5tow]

why dont some of you guys look at the source of this, it comes from none other than mr.fanboy i try and create hits on my website aka hiphop gamer, Almost all of what comes from this guys site is bullcrap i mean the engine that is top dog of the pile right now, is to be found in the show all end all king of fps which is by the way if you havent guessed yet is killzone 2, and who is to say they cant smoke crytech engine with their own when they smoked it with killzone 2 already , this crytech engine is just going to improve on multiplats only exclusives of sony cant be touched because as much as some 360 fans might like to think that crytech engine is going to put them on the same level as sony exclusives ,well sony has uncharted 2 for you guys and that game will put the graphic capabilities of this generations graphic king to rest.

[OGharryjoysticks]

But if they are just releasing it now, with the time it takes to make games we might not have a game using it for another 2 years.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Crysis is a technical marvel but it has no art style whatsoever. Crysis is impossible on the consoles and technically the best looking game out right now. Killzone 2 appears to look better because of the amazing art style. Killzone 2 is a better game IMHO.

[Catdeerduck]

its coming to the ps3 also, there's no doubt that it will make awesome looking games but the PS3 will "probably" end up having better graphics because its stronger then the 360 with or without the cryengine. The cryengine will probably end up looking better on the PS3

[The Fake Deal]

The problem is people wont admit when something sucks. Its a form of denial. they wanna think they have the best game that was ever made. What they need to realize is that GTA is old. They arent giving people what they want, they're giving people what the creators want you to have. Honestly all i can see they did is give GTA and graphics upgrade, a mediocre story we've seen 100 times in older titles. The same missions and nothing new. Atleast GTA:SA was new. SR1 didnt reinvent the wheel it gave us what we loved about the genre and what we wanted. They made the game more personal, they didnt say here is nico bellic and his story, they said here is YOUR story. Then they gave us a much livelier place to play in. Hell i played SR1 for months and occasionally go back to it from time to time.

look its no contest, SR2 will be more fun than GTA 4,'FUN' is the keyword there, but none the less GTA iv its still a great game, graphically, sound-wise, story e.t.c, the only thing is SR2 is going to give a real gamer, much much more fun, unquestionably, lets contest features shall we:

GTA 4:
-bowling
-prostitutes
-darts
-drive land vehicles(takes some gettin used to)
-story missions (Great ones)
-drinking
-online play(Great too)
-watching in-game TV(don't know how fun this is...LOL)

SR2:
-full character customisation(face,body,walks, talks,insults,praise 's)
-vehicle customisation(rims,color,perfo rmance,hood,roof,spo ilers,interior color,body mods)
-robbing stores/shops(hold-up at day & a theft minigame at night)
-online play(Hella fun)
-drinking
-taking drugs(spliff,blunt,pipe,bong)
-eating(freckle b!tche's)
-activities, this is such a big one i will list them separately:
-drug trafficking
-escort
-hostage
-mayhem
-hijack
-chop shop
-hitman
-snatch
(and 3 new ones for SR2)
-story(entertaining)
-taking human shields(this will rock.)
-throwing people(again, this will rock.)
-fly planes and helicopters.(I can't wait 4 this one )
-drive land vehicles.(easy, fun control) View

[Sarcasm]

This is hilariously off topic. I think you got the wrong article buddy.

[ultimatek1]

what are u talking about? another one in crack!

[Cajun Chicken]

LMAO, that certainly lightened the mood.

Yeah, I love SR2, might even consider picking up the first for my 360. The new Red Faction also looks great, same developers, also a sandbox, win, win situation!

[anubis12]

pretty sure cod mw2 will blow killzone out of the water espically the online.

[kewlkat007]

We are seeing a Game come from Old hardware(PS2-->KZ1) to new Hardware(PS3-->KZ2) plus updated engine. Of course the you will see a huge GAP in visuals. It will not take 4+ years to make KZ3 , if it's already being worked on. Graphics will not be #1 priority.

As far as the whole Graphics argument on either console, it's not graphics that give a game some long legs. It's about the whole package and the fun factor. Graphics may give it limbs but that's as far as it goes. Graphics come and goes. Fun factor and replay value will always remain.

Again, PC's will always beat out consoles on graphics. Knowing how good Crysis looks if if Crytek can run it's engine on either console and make Crysis-like games would be amazing. Def would put a damper on this whole "that console is tapped argument."

[psiom]

I would take this with a grain of salt.

Crytek dudes saying they have an -engine- can can produce crysis-like visuals is one thing, but attaching that engine to a game is another.

There could be any number deal breaking bottlenecks such as the speed of texture access, number of enemies on screen, how much power is left to resolve complex physics, etc.

engine!=game

Killzone 2 is amazing visually, has excellent object and character physics, very detaled A.I... You could go on really.

I wouldn't jump the gun just yet.

[dagreatest41]

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then I'll be playing my Killzone2.

Maybe 3 years later there will be an xbox360 game that finally trumps Killzone2's graphics but by then the PS3 is going to have games that far surpass Killzone2.

This is is just like when the Alan Wake footage were released and everyone was saying that 360 can do better graphics than killzone2. The footage was from a tech demo on the PC.

[The_Beast]

thats ganna be fun

[Thoreau]

17 - Are you serious?
Killzones graphics aren't impressive. Its presentation is.
Observe the graphics and you'll notice that not only is it missing a significant amount of shadow and lighting but also cheats everything.
Look at the textures on the characters and environment. You know that bridge level? Look at the ground. Its terrible.
The only level with good graphics is the first level and even that cheats the lighting and textures.
Cryengine is true to next gen graphics and does not cheat its presentation, cycofool831

you must only own an xbox 360. i play killzone 2 on a 50 inch sony sxrd dlp and it looks great. i have my ps3 and 360 sitting right next to my screen. the textures look good on killzone 2. psn=southpaw79, i let my xbl subscription expire cause i don't play on live, but xbl=heavens boxer, i can resubscribe just to tear you apart in CODWAW for the xbox360. i don't want you to flap your gums about something you don't know.

[Godmars290]

Why am I not surprised to find this is HHG submission?

[hippo24]

Bad title, but hes getting better, hopefully he will migrate away from the "fanboy" topics for a bit...Would like some links to his claims though.

[Thoreau]

go away, hhg is the perfect stereotypical black male. from the crappy hiphop gear, to the fact he can barely form a sentence. the silly azz article titles makes me ill. the cry engine is multi-platform. hhg is a straight up dummy.

[kewlkat007]

We fall for it every time..then complain afterwards.

[ultimatek1]

can't access to the page content

[gta2800]

It just had to be hiphopgamershow. Everytime I see tittles like that I expect it to say Source:hiphopgamershow. And what do you know? it always is. I like the mixing of hip hop and video games but their site and articles are pure, flame bait shat.

[Godmars290]

All of his postings are just to generate hits. Its shameful.

[Thoreau]

HHG

[Thoreau]

disagreed with me?

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Last I checked Far Cry 2 was a bit better on PS3 (not trying to push damn comparisons), it's not like Crytek are a bunch of noobs using Unreal Engine, they know their stuff.

Don't expect Cry Engine to look crap on PS3, actually, worst case scenario is PS3 games from Crytek being slightly worse than 360 if devs got a bit lazy, but, by now, everybody and their moms know PS3 is overall more powerful (how much more is up to you fanboys, I'm talking hardware potential wise) and Crytek, if I remember right, gone for PS3 developers before they get 360 developers which means they were up to work in harder to program system even when everybody was getting beaten by the new architeture. Now, PS3 architeture is not that odd for devs anymore.

So I wouldn't expect it giving any answer to Killzone 2 on 360 anymore than it also would on PS3. And considering that multiplatform games miss on a lot of both consoles potential, even if it comes out technically better than Killzone 2, nothing guarantee PS3 wont have something better than that coming after or even before FarCry 3 or whatever (Crysis? Crysis 2?) come out, as the same goes for 360, those consoles aren't 8 years old PS2s, no one is running out of juice.

[Alcohog]

Ok HHP, the headlines are getting out of control...

[Why dis]

Be even a bigger blow if the game ends up superior on the 360. Nevermind the game being better than a KZ2 that supposedly isn't possible on the 360.

The game will be superior on the 360, that over rides the game also being on the PS3 as #1 said in the gamerzone. I think #1 in the gamer zone is still missing the point lol and 35 people agreeing with as well lol.

#1 in the gamer zone... A game on the 360 console that beats the game supposedly out of the 360's reach is the point.

[Shadow Man]

The droids wouldn't accepted.

I hope is possible.

[paracardium]

That engine is also for the ps3. Wtf the hell is wrong with hiphop crap website now? They obviously didn't research it that well. They should be embrassed.

[Why dis]

PS3 fanboys have put on a straight face walking tall while MSFT has been keeping a lid on stuff but they're not fooling me.

Milk the KZ2 hype while you can lol.

[mirroredderorrim]

Kill Zone 3.

Cry less.

[fatstarr]

everyone and their moms should know the 360 is less powerful than the ps3.

its like a nvidia 295 vs a 280 still close in graphics but the 295 s far superior. xbox owners should feel ripped off cause they paid allot of money for a system that got massive price drops. the ps3's potential hasn't been reached just like how the wii is getting nice looking games if developers put a good amount into developing a game for the ps3 like heavy rain or Alan wake or w/e it is then you can have this competition. but xbox vs ps3 in terms of graphics potential is dreamcast vs ps2 in terms of graphics./ end useless rant lol Nintendo ^_^

[ultimatek1]

I suggest u to verify PS3 specs vs 360 specs before posting such arguments.. 360 has better grahic card, but he ps3 has a better cpu. Its up to the developer how they will use the power of the console how that translation will come into the game in terms of graphics and gameplay. There even was an article about it this week on N4G, talking about it.

[jessehaysfl]

AN ENGINE CAN RUN ON BOTH CONSOLES DOES NOT MEAN THE GRAPHICS WILL LOOK THE SAME ON BOTH CONSOLES AND BY THE WAY WHO CARES.

[ps92117]

Lol HHG your article sounds so stupid that it actually sounds as if a ps3 fanboy were being sarcastic.

[Makidian]

Just because the CE3 will run a game on the 360 doesn't mean that it will tun well, or anything along those lines. What they will do on the PS3 with this engine will probably far more incredible, and I would venture a guess that their dev will be PS3 to 360 port, much like Burnout Paradise. The only answer MS has to KZ2 is Halo 4, and how many tie are they going to play that card, and it probably won't sell more than Halo 3 did.

[Death2494]

This article is freaking stupid, honestly. To think that a multiplatform engine would prove one system's graphical dominance over the other is retarded. Think of the cards needed to run Crysis now and when they came out. I'm sure you'll see the logic when i say " Don't get your hopes up." They should've did an article comparing Unreal Engine 3 to Cryengine 3 or something. It would've made alot more sense.

[ToeKneeHaze]

Who wrote that article ?

Some kid in the 5th grade?

Shouldnt we have an age limit on forums

[Unicron]

LULZ...

PS3 answerz bak wit Id's RAGE!!! luilz see i canz make teh healinez 2!!

*sigh* I wonder if this site ever has news?

[Digital Commando]

This is a very misleading title, it should say "CryEngine 3 may surpass Killzone 2"

[xplosneer]

I'm adding to the crowd of "hiphopgamer needs to stop. NOW."

Thank you very much.

[gameman]

CryEngine 3 is a multiplatform engine witch means it will work on the PS3 also XDD that's really show how the xbots what to have anything that can might better than KZ2

[Socomer 1979]

somehow I'm not frightened.

Crytec on the 360?
It just tarnishes the engine name.

Besides, what's to say this isn't like the havok engine?
killzone 2 uses havok. All games seem to be running havok.

I like how in desperate need xbums are for something a little like killzone 2.
in which case you can blow me.

[Hallucinate]

well the engines scaleable so it wont matter they could tone down the graphics for the 360 version

[Shani]

I don't think that article has right title...
as CryEngine 3 will be available for both consoles then there won't be chance to Xbox360 to answer PS3 by help of CryEngine 3...

and for graphics I know that Xbox360 has little better graphics than PS3... but to answer Killzone 2 they have to release new game like gears of war with better graphics than KZ2....

[Mr Tretton]

I just want to throw in that Crytek once said they are working on 'secret technologies' exclusively for PS3. They also stated they believe the PS3 is the system that has the most room for growth.

[Pootie Tang]

The announcement says" RUMORED FOR A 2011/2012 LAUNCH" so ummm lol-- I think by then there will be advances in other engines also, the CELL should be fully understood and likely the 720 will be available

if this is 2-3 years away....does anyone care right now???

[xlx-russ_92]

only xbox fans care.

[CobraKai]

Wouldn't that be around the time MS and Sony announces "Xbox New" and
"PS4"? Isn't that a little late for the party? Might as well start adapting a new engine for those consoles.

[Hangman550]

How is this a blow when the engine will be available for both consoles?

[i_like_ff7]

cryengine 3 doesn't mean crysis visuals -__- Jeez grow a brain.

[BGDad]

Its great how stupid writers and media somehow manage to turn the cryengine 3 into a negative 360 spin? WTF is wrong with people. Issues, serious issues.

[The_Zeitgeist]

Yer the one getting made at a website.

[Strife Lives]

And yes,maybe the graphics can be done on 360,but I wont be dropping cash for a 5hour game.unless. . .its released on two dvds for 360?People say the space issue isnt an issue,but Mass Effect is a perfect example of how crapmped things are on a dvd with big games.the textures . . .couldve been muuuch better. Hey,anybody with Crysis know how much HDD space a full install takes up?

[kittoo]

I agree that consoles have a decent amount of power, but you have to admit that CE3 is not going to look as good on consoles as CE2 on high settings PC. What CE3 is, is mostly a little improved more optimized and more scalable version of CE2, Crytek wouldnt have developed a whole new engine from scratch in this short span of time. CE3 will look better than CE2 on high settings on PC, might be, but it wont look that good on consoles.

[Neo604]

by then they have Killzone 3 to beat. Damn they are slow.

More pixil mean multiple disc.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Well to be honest I've played Crysis. Some sections look good and some look incredible. The level of detail on high in DX9 is great, it looks very good but not much better than a console game. Where Crysis really shines is DX10 and Very High or a mix of high and very high. So when Crytek says "matches Crysis" I have to believe it's more of a DX9 high level than say a DX10 very high/high detail because I don't see any console outputting that kind of detail.

[The_Zeitgeist]

Wow this is funny. On one hand I can see how you all are up in arms over the title of this article. It is Miss Leading at first. On the other hand it just goes to show that 95% you didn't even bother to read the description let alone the article. The articles main argument is that if both systems are capable or running a game that looks better than anything so far on ps3, then what is the incentive to buy a ps3 over a 360.

You should all start a new site "News For People Who Can't Read" It can all be audio articles.

As for my opinion. Killzone 2 looks awesome...End of story.

[Sanhlami]

fail article

[tee_bag242]

The 360 can try and run the same graphics as PS3 all it likes. But it still has the physics and AI to contend with!

I wish these lame articles would stop, they're making the 360 loose credibility, and until PS3 sort their chat and friend invites ill be using the the old heap

[rob6021]

It's funny how he goes on about how this engine is somehow going to save DVD disk format. What the heck does the engine have to do with disk space, if anything and it turns out to be one heck of an engine; It's going to take disk space to store high res textures, or else you'll have a very short/repetetive-landscape game. They have been working on the PS3 for a very long time it's been stated in various articles, considering cry engine 2 is very hard drive/processor heavy i think PS3 might actually come out ahead.

[Hallucinate]

jjust for future reference..its a good idea to not actually read the articles by HHG cause some of his authers, they.. well they make you drop a few IQ points

[specialguest]

All's I gotta say is RE-Tard-ED. Like everyone above me stated, Cry Engine 3 will be for both 360 and PS3. Articles like this only proves that KZ2 set the bar high and IS the bar to beat(if they can on a console)

To be fair though, base on the tech demo, Alan Wake is a good contender. The only problem is it's development time and when it will finally f'ing be finished and released! I want Alan Wake soon!

[Morgue]

Who cares. HHG and MS are both grasping at straws and even if they do release this engine it will be for the next Xbox so....

[DelbertGrady]

Shouldn't the title read "Crytek Answers Killzone 2 Challenge With The CryEngine 3"? Since they are making multiplatform titles.

[flec]

Stupid article, there will typically be little difference between the CryEngine running on either PS3 or the 360.

It's first party titles which showcase the best each console has to offer & at present the best is KZ2 on the PS3. Games such as Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted & then MGS4 all set the bar progressively higher. Now we have KZ2 setting new standards.

Even though the 360 has one year head start & is apparently easier to develop for it just can't keep up. The 360 is gimped by DVD & Edram.

[Meresin]

SE's Crystal Tools can run on the Wii as well as the 360. Does that mean its graphical capabilities are on par with the 360? :P

I'm glad I didn't click through to this article. The summary pretty much screams "i dunt know what i takling aboat!!!11!1!"

[thereapersson]

Because there aren't very many great exclusive titles on the system, MS and their legion of fanboys have resorted to claiming Multiplatform games and now even the engines that run them as their own. Pretty pathetic...

[PotNoodle]

Resident Evil 5 has proved that we will get amazing graphics on not only our exclusive games but on our multiplatform games in the future.

I know killzone 2 looks better than RE5 but if capcom have managed to get a game looking that good on multiple platforms then we seriously do have alot more to come in the future.

Anyway@OP. Yeah.. i'll wait to see the engine in action first.

[Slinger420]

I watched Gametrailers review for Crysis and I'm not a fanboy but that game has NOTHING on Killzone 2 graphically or technically, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

[M337ING]

Gametrailers hardly reviewed the game at its best settings...

[AdolfBinBush]

hippoGamer should banned.

[Chapulin]

Like your momma said if you don't have nothing good to say don't say nothing at all.

[euchreprof]

Killzone 2 > Halo 1+2+3+Wars

[volcane]

..Crysis looks great on a high end PC, does not mean it is going to look as good on consoles. Because if you take my PC for example, which is no where near high end now (A64 X2 4800+, 2GB RAM and 8800GTS), then Crysis does not look that great, and I would say Killzone 2 craps all over what Crysis looks like on my PC.

So if they make a game on consoles using Cryengine 3, it doesn't mean it is going to be better looking than Killzone 2. People just seem to go with how Crysis can look on a high end PC, and not realise that this gen of consoles can not look as good as that.

[klassikaren]

Genius, I'm looking forward to the games that are gonna support it.

[divideby0]

dumb...if the 360 can do it the PS3 can do it and than some..since KZ is way prettier and more action going on, than any 360 game I own, even if the 360 catches up, the PS3 will leap frog it.
those that disagree are the same ones who dissed KZ 2 years before it came out and also are against games on BR

[Kurylo3d]

I dont understand why anyone would think killzone 2 couldnt be done on the 360. The game is nothing special graphically. All of this stuff is just fanboy hype to piss each other off.

[DFresh]

Who cares PS3 has that engine too so they could use that for more exclusives so now what.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Any game that looks better than Killzone 2 on the 360, (exclusive or multiplatform) will just be the downfall for the Playstation 3. According to Sony and it's "boys", Killzone 2 or anything coming close or surpassing it, is't supposed to work on the 360. Shouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon that just crashed.

[jaydagod]

The real point is that technology is reaching a point where Bluray 50gb disc will become obsolete. Remember cartridges and how big they were in terms of graphics? Now look at the DS, still cartridges (way Smaller) better graphics than previous cartridges. Now you have the WAR (unnecessary as it Is)about a technology that will be passed in another 3-5 years. I know the PS3 fan boys are in an uproar they waited 2 YEARS to say "see? we are better than MS" truth is it took too long and to prove it technology has caught up. 2 years of just wait till(your favorite game here) and you'll see MS we will CRUSH you! TIME as they say will determine the fate of all things.

[TheOutsider]

KEEP DREAMING MICROSUCK! YOU WILL NEVER SURPASS ANYTHING ON PS3! MOVE ON TO 720 IF YOU CAN!! NOT EVEN THEN WILL U GET KILLZONE GRAPHICS !ALL YOUR DEVELOPERS ARE LIKE THAT FAT A$$ AT VALVE "LAZY"! HA HA.

[Scruffy_K]

Until I see it this stupid speculation is pointless. Oh and they announced they plan to use it for the next generation as well so maybe it won't be on the Xbox 360 at all. I know that's speculation but it's got about as much credit as this article

[borgome]

It's hot in here today.

[Kakkoii]

Lol... HipHopGamer. As soon as I saw the name and the picture of him on the website, I knew this story didn't have a single bit of credibility or unbiased views. He just seems like a guy who is a fan of his console, and not games in general. And thus doesn't actually pay attention to tech news. He probably doesn't even know what RAM stands for lol.

[Silly gameAr]

These articles are played out.

[jlemdon]

let's hope this engine will show wonders for both(360&PS3) systems.