VGChartz has posted their NPD preview for February 2009. Update: The Official NPD Numbers are due next week, March 12nd. @ 6:30 PM EST
From the begining I thought Killzone 2 timing was extremely weird. Dividing its hype into two months sounds ludicrous since they'd have only 2 days for February (where GTA TLATD helped the Xbox 360) and in March, they'd have to deal with Halo Wars, Star Ocean and the (recently announced) Resident Evil 5 Xbox edition.
shame on you aquabot
I thought we all vowed never to post anything from VGchartz again.. Ahhh the irony!
killzone 2 released on Feburary 27. Now STFU.
They were acceptably close for January numbers.
Since when have vg chartz #'s been banned? vg #'s have been apart of this site as long as I can remember. Hell they are closer than Patcher's predictions and you see stuff from so called analyst all the time. Oh I see the hirearchy here at n4g get to pick and choose when vg chartz news is suitable for us regular folks. Well no thanks nasim and friends, I prefer to see the news UN-filtered. JOY
^^ That's what I was thinking. It seems that some fans try hard to make stories they don't like fail, when they're perfectly valid like this one. Something tells me that if Killzone took the high spot here, this would've been approved in no time. This story is as good as any other preview, like Patcher's Projections for example.
Vgchartz banned....did i miss something?We all know they are estimates and are usually posted under rumors, so why are people reporting the story.
I'm pretty sure VGChartz started this whole fanboys sales war there, next to nextgenwars.com
Ok, finally we can actually talk about the article. Sony's Timing is probably the worst in all generations. Who the hell programmed KZ2 for the 26th? The should've given it one more week so the PS3 would probably take February and give Sony a well needed PR boost and momentum. Now, the first two days of Killzone are overshadowed by Street Fighter and Wii games, and in the hardware side, it seems that the pricing and GTA did the job for the Xbox 360. In March, things will be even harder. Without the launch boost, KZ2 will have to deal with Halo Wars in terms of software and the RE5 special edition Xbox 360 in the hardware sales. With this trend, Sony could probably NOT outperform Microsoft in America in a single month in the first Semester (If no price drop) even with their most hyped game ever. Bad handling at Sony Corporation.
the only person I see fabricating anything is you. You know very well that never happened. Vgchartz use the shipped numbers that all the companies give out and estimate the sales to consumers. They are astonishingly accurate for a FREE service. If you want more accurate data pay $20,000 for full NPD data. If you don't care about sales then leave the site alone. Sometimes I think if Vgchartz showed the ps3 at 30 million it would be proclaimed as the greatest site ever. For a free service there should be no complaints.
I believe you have you're sites confused. Nextgenwars was the site that was run by a fanboy kid, and used a simple script in the sites code that incremented the numbers every few minutes based off a fictitious sales number. VGchatz may be off in their predictions, but nextgenwars was ridiculously wrong.
Ps3 fanboys are full of sh*t.I'm tired of them making excuses or saying that someone,a web site,or a company is bias if they don't act like the ps3 and all the games on it is perfect.Sometimes that's not even enough.They gave KZ2 a perfect score on G4.A ps3 fanboy emailed them and told them that they were bias aginst the ps3 and KZ2.Just think,they gave KZ2 a perfect score and ps3 fanboys still wasn't happy and sayed that he was bias against the ps3.I guess that you have to fall down to your knees and thank god for the ps3 and it's game,jump up and down and wish you could make love to it just to make ps3 fanboys happy.If VGChartz posted that the ps3 and it's games was at the top of the list it would be a completly different story.Every ps3 fanboy would be praising them and saying they know what they are talking about. I've read ps3 fanboys articles before that trashed a website or someone if they didn't praise the ps3 and jump up and down with joy because of it or if they said something good about the 360.Ps3 fanboys claimed they were bias and didn't know what they were talking about.I've then seen the same ps3 fanboys claim that the same people knew what they are talking about if they gave the ps3 all kinds of praises,or say something bad about the 360 and it's pathetic.When Oblivian 1st came it was a 360 exclusive.Almost every ps3 fanboy claimed that the game suxed,it was over rated and was glad it wasn't on the ps3.When it was ported over to the ps3 the same ps3 fanboys was all saying the complete opposite.They then claimed that Oblivian was a great game and they recomend that every one that had a ps3 should buy it. Facts is facts.Every one knows that the ps3 is a good system but it's not great like ps3 fanboys claim,they act as if the ps3 is the greatest thing since electricity.The ps3 and 360 are both great systems.Fanboys should give credit where credit is due instead of making an A** of themselfs. Ps3 fanboys claimed that all microsoft do is steal or buy exclusives away from Sony.They claimed that sony made all their games and are to good to do what microsoft is doing.The fact is they are dead wrong and the majority knows it but wont admitt it.Sony stole or bought the MGS series,NINJA GAIDEN,FINAL FANTASY and other big ps3 exclusoves from nintendo and that's a fact.people that claim this isn't true isn't truthful with theirselfs and the people.All people have to do is go back when sony first came out with the ps1 and they would see that sony did the same thing to nintendo like microsoft is doing to sony now and that's a fact.I'll admitt that they have 360 and ps3 fanboys but ps3 fanboys out # the 360 fanboys by 2 to 1 or more and that's a fact.Hell all people have to do is go to any game article,i don't care if it's for the ps3 or 360.Ps3 fanboys would post over 50% of replys about the article trashing the 360 and they are pathetic. Fanboys need to be more like gamers instead of acting like stupid children fighting over who has the better toy.They remind me of 6 year olds saying my daddy can beat up your daddy.it's the same damn thing but instead of daddy they are saying my system.They all need to grow up and start acting their ages instead of acting like their I.Q is the lowest of any animal.
wow. this is excellent news for sony. they still have a price drop coming within the next couple months and the numbers are still this high? when the price cut comes these numbers are going to sky rocket! solid sales for the 360 still which is great for MS. they have 5 games in the top 10 its just a shame none of them are first party exclusives, still a good feat over the wii though. wii is still going strong but i think many of us expect the numbers to slowly start dwindling as they are in japan. @godofthunder..."Fanboys need to be more like gamers". take your own advice buddy and stop crying. fanboys are fanboys no matter what system they are for. its a shame its so evident your a 360 fanboy. when you talk [email protected] about fanboys if you werent one yourself then you would be irritated by ALL fanboys.
Are they really estimating the wii to sell almost a million in february? Why? There weren't really any major releases. Ahm confused.
apparently, your statement makes us view you as if you have an IQ thats below 1, which is probably worse than that of an animal. BTW, Killzone 2 launched on the 27th Feburary, so of course the NPD is not going to show that.
@ Aquanox Sony put the Killzone2 launch at end of Feb hoping that Launch & Pre-Launch sales would get them on Feb "Top 10", and then strong March get them again. If the title launched at beginning of March, they would surely not make the Top 10 for April. This method gets Killzone2 on two months' top 10 lists. Without puttig the launch closer to the very end of February says they need *all* of March to hope to get on March's Top 10, it means they lack confiendce in the title's ability to last long on Top 10 lists.
and quality for gamers at least is more important than some numbers. Sales for K2 will be decent to say the least.
KZ2 is an amazing game. For me its not about KZ2 or whether or not vg chartz's is accurate because I see them for what they are, just a estimate based on limited data. This is a news site full of rumors, analyst predictions, and wild claims, but now supposedly vg's estimates are banned. All I'm saying is that I hate censorship based on personal emotion and thats what I think those reporting this post are doing. On a side note I think if these #'s are close to accurate although their not terrible, their not very impressive either for a game sony put so much stock in, the game is definitely worth a purchase so I put the blame on sony for not doing their part to show off this game, I mean damm I was expecting alot more advertising and hype, and yes while the internet gaming sites were hyping it to death, I haven't seen much outside of the wire, thats just poor support for a game you've been touting for so long, wtf? Were they just expecting gamers who saw the trailer a year ago to remember to get the game?, I think they have too much faith in their brand name sometimes. Stop letting the fans pick up your slack sony and *Promote the damm game! JOY
For realizing how great Killzone 2 is. The online mode is so addictive!
All I'm saying is that I hate censorship based on personal emotion and thats what I think those reporting this post are doing. Well said Jokes. It's unfortunate what a huge fanboy battle ground this place is. The concept is great, bringing news together. Sadly, people again seem to care about flaunting their e-peen and arguing sales numbers over coming together to enjoy a common interest, gaming.
I half agree with you....there are plenty of people who are "gamers" but are also concerned with sales. Some gamers like to look at sales so that they can somewhat get the assurance that another game will be produced...or some just like to know how well a game performed sales wise. On the other hand, I do not like those who are worried about sales to justify their purchase or try and bash the competition.
But I have to agree with you, last generation I was on the other side of the fence, listening to the sony side tout sales constantly, but I liked what I liked, and sales weren't going to change that. Bubble to you sir
make a decision based on what "sounds" good.;)
the truth will come out soon non-believers ! Npd Npd Edf Edf We did it ! We kicked their alien butts !
It is something very simple to understand, there must be something else that stops them from pushing games on the PS3 further ahead.
Wii 360 PS3 Starting to see a pattern here. I will wait to NPD to see where they are all at.
Predictions? Who cares about their guesses?
lol when people said vgchartz were bogus i had to go and check why and seriously their numbers are so off! the guys there chat so much bull! apparently they have ties with companies and stores and stuff but someone please tell me why the hell stores would give out detailes about sales to some site run by some guys that name it vgchartz with a z! its like one of us making our a site and doing the same thing! their japan numbers are real because they are from famitsu, their american numbers are near close because they are adjusted after NPD but their europe numbers are completely made up.
Could there be a connection between the dislike/distrust of VGChartz by Sony only folks and the fact that they report sales numbers? You know, those things that dont lie? YEs they are an estimate, but numbers themselves are incapable of spin. You know, being that VGChrtz is a pretty popular site, you would think that if they were consistently wrong by a longshot with their numbers, they would have been done a long time ago. I wonder how that hasnt happened yet? From their About Us: "VG Chartz has been cited and featured by a number of leading worldwide publications such as Reuters TV, The BBC, CNN Money, The New York Times, Fortune, Business 2.0, Forbes, The New York Post, The Telegraph, The Guardian, The Times, Süddeutsche Zeitung, The Birmingham News, The Toronto Star, The Indianapolis Star, The Inquirer, NU.nl, CNet, Seeking Alpha, O’Reilly Radar, Yahoo Games and The Guiness Book of World Records." But what do those names matter? Dont you know MS owns all of those companies?! Just like they own CNET, and in turn Gamespot, and in turn CBS...and VIACOM! ITS A CONSPIRACY MAN!!!
Yeah, well said.
it was announced that the PS3 has sold about 21 million consoles about 1 1/2 ago, think about that. Vgchartz is sh!t.
Sony reported a year and a half ago that they had sold 21 million PS3s? Hmmm I seriously doubt that. Vgchartz changes its numbers every month to reflect NPD numbers(and even those are an estimate.), or whenever one of the big 3 come out and announce their own internal sales numbers. Oh ok so a month ago not a year. However the difference is VGchartz numbers are based on how many are owned by consumers. Sony uses numbers based on how many units they have produced.So even if they have 2 million sitting around in a warehouse it still counts as a sale to them. That is why the Vgchartz numbers are lower.
pwnsauce is rejecting reality in favour of his delusions.
http://kotaku.com/5157636/s... yea, i have lots of delusions. falling for VG chartz crap makes me delusional. ok. F&&king retard.
i love how the fanboys are following vg chartz since thats the only thing they can go by since they have no games this year. I LOL!
lol I love n4g. The way people say "I could only imagine the comments if the ps3 sales predictions were way up". Well if that were to happen, like it has before, the 360 fanboys would come in saying "lol vgchartz....", and ps3 fans would suddenly accept it. How it always happens. So thats why I just ignore vgchartz, other than reading the comments for enjoyment.
This site is down to like 4. Other than that, there's those who own both consoles (like me) that make up a minority and about 90% Sony fanboys that dominate this now. Any anti-Sony news that hits is like satan-spawn here and gets obliterated to the point where hypocrisy is simply overcome by pure stupidity and ignorance. This site has gone to hell. I only come here looking for announcements now.
its the same way i feel i dont comment that much .. only look on .. for . news.. coz the fanboys force in this site is down right.. scary .. zombies with no brains..
Lol I think I'm the only one to catch this...lol but you put "March 12nd" lol pretty sure it should be the 12th not the 12nd :)
This is downright sad; the behaviour of people in this article is that of a kindergarten class. This is a prediction, these are not cold hard facts, do not take them as so. Stop acting like little kids for christ sakes.
are you are stockholder or something?.. the wii is selling like crazy but it has NO GAMES the 3fixme is selling but it has NO GAMES and is defective, too the ps3 has all the best exclusives and multiplatforms. that's all i care about.
It DOES matter people. I loved my Dreamcast, it was a great system, but it didn't sell squat. And look what happened... Quality only goes so far. You need dollars to back it up or it is over before it starts.
NPD will just show what they always show Wii 360 PS3 PS2 DS PSP
I think facts are for fanboys... lol. People just love these mega corporation. My friend sold his ps3 today after a week of saying Killzone 2 is so great. I didn't even buy KZ2 because I think besides being beautiful graphically it... well... sucks... He bought the system only for KZ2 and this is a true story he just sold it back at Gamestop. KZ2 controls suck... no armor excuse, no just get used to it... they are BAD. Uncharted in my mind is still the top exclusive for my PS3 and Gears of Wars 1 and 2 are far better games than KZ2. I'm not talking about graphics they are great just the game itself.
Look at it this way with vgchartz. SONY said themselves ages ago that PS3 was over 21 over million. Yet VGChartz still has it at 20.81million. When the fact is SONY is over 23million. Both are in good shape, but i have noticed alot more people, in uk,usa,japan taking more notice of PS3 now. Most people i know, will only buy one when the price drops. I live in UK, i don't watch much tv. If i do, it's mainly US programs, lost,heroes,medium,fringe etc. So i'm not sure how much if any advertising KILLZONE2 has had here with regards to tv. Has anyone noticed much, In uk or for that matter anywhere else.
"When the fact is SONY is over 23million." Sorry but that isnt a fact. Sony reported over a month ago that they had 21 million in sales. However Sony also changed how they count their units. In order to boost their numbers they started using their production numbers as their sold numbers. So if they have 500k in a warehouse and another 750k in transit they still count those as units sold. That is why the Vg chartz numbers are different. Those numbers are based off of actual retail sales. When the unit actually gets into the hands of a gamer. To be honest I think they are being very generous with their numbers. They are only a few hundred k behind what Sony is reporting and chances are they have more than just a few hundred PS3 in warehouses and in transit.
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