Minor Character Model Inconsistency in Killzone 2

While playing Killzone 2, a minor issue was noticed during gameplay.

Take a look.

[PoSTedUP]

lol thats cool, and is why it is only a demo.

[ProperFunked]

i understand that, its just something im pointing out, a "minor" issue, i dont expect it to stop anyone from buying the game seriously lol =D, im still buying it for sure. im replay the demo (like i am at this very moment, to get used to the aiming, thats my only gripe, oh, and also trying to get adjusted to the standard 1 control setup, its actually not bad, just kinda annoying to have to click R3 , clicking sucks)but i'll adjust

[The Hunter]

But i think it was confirmed yeah... Funny bug too :P

[PoSTedUP]

you have a good eye.

i like the standard 2 (i have the triggers for the ps3 controller and it makes it feel so comfortable when you shoot/it makes the recoil feel even realer) and try playing it without cross hairs man it makes all more exciting and realistic having just the gun on screen with no hud or cross hairs man i love it that way.

[MechaGear]

The very same that was playable on all those expos last year.

[godofthunder10]

They have a lot of games that you could go to setup and click it so they wont have a crosshair on it.i did it with a lot of games.It look like it would be cool but it's not having a gun in person it's a lot harder to hit things with.

[phosphor112]

This is awesome. I wonder how it looks with a zooka in his hands xD. Gonna check =P. (I wish I had a capture card to screen capture it for you =[ )

[Tempist]

"I'm not trying to nit pick I swear, but..."

Give it a break. When it comes down to nit picking a demo, you've reached rock bottom. I'm glad to know that this gent is sitting around bored as hell just looking at his shadow in game rather than playing the game.

[terrandragon]

The GameTrailers review nitpicked at the model inconsistency. But I know most people will be fine with that.

[SnuggleBandit]

everyone will just nitpick, nitpick and nitpick some more until no one can enjoy the f*cking masterpiece that GG has created

[hotdawg]

Minor Inconsistency with a demo. The author fails and needs to get out of the basement. Maybe then he can pay a hooker to sleep with him and see the minor inconsistencies with his life.

[acedoh]

Someone needs to get a life.... It's one thing to criticize a final version of a product but when you are criticizing a demo that is months old... That is sad. Why don't we start critiquing blooper reels of movies for mistakes... I mean they should never make a mistake in the process of making a movie... should they??? Get some journalistic integrity.... take a journalism class in college and learn about meaningful story creation. This is like reporting the neighbors cat in the tree on the news...

[Forbidden_Darkness]

its a easter egg/hint ;)

[ProperFunked]

hahaha what if!? lol easter egg, so does that mean im supposed to be excited that i found this?!

@1.3
I could understand using R2 as fire on the 360 controller because it feels like an actual trigger, but R2 is more of a throttle then a trigger. also no crosshair is pretty cool (trying it now) but im more used to play "hardcore" on COD4/WaW (i no, stop comparing) so im used to just spraying at close range, in this game you have to unload an entire clip (like Geow) to bring these guys down, if you were close range it mite work, but from afar, not so much. then again, its all just us having to adjust to the changes, like Seb (QA Manager) said in the other news article.

[jkhan]

@2.1
Not really mate, I thought the enemies were taking very few bullets to die. But may be I was just aiming chest high and head shots & it was Normal difficult. I think the game was too easy even for normal difficulty, not blaming the AI, AI was simply great. They surprised me a couple of times but overall a few shots and they are down.
Try shooting enemies in the legs, its really funny to see them stumble :P

[ProperFunked]

alright maybe 3 to 5, now that im actually trying to make each shot count (considering the aiming difficulty), but I'm trying to keep in mind how players are gonna be moving online, most (from the videos ive seen) arent gonna be standing still, so i try to take shots while im moving and aiming at the same time cuz thats how i believe its gonna be. So pot shots arent gonna be too effective[unless your sniping<---stoked] then again you sound like your an amazing shot with the controls already. nice

[Snow]

That's it ! I'm canceling my pre-order.

[ProperFunked]

yeah your right, me too... >_<

[PixlSheX]

Man it's just a bug report, so GG can fix it.. if they haven't done it already.

[Ghoul]

not a bug its a glitch

:)

[Halochampian]

shadows = most important part of game. CONFIRMED!

[RebornSpy]

lol

[jkhan]

Funny that was really funny, I knew this would happen. I mean I don't see people dissecting each and every frame of the demo for a game. It would have been funny if someone can bring frame by frame analysis of Halo 3, Gears 2 and COD4 & then compare it Killzone 2.

[ProperFunked]

i wasnt actually trying to find it, i was just watching the animations of the shadow and noticed that he holds his gun while using the knife....=\. like i said, "minor" issue, as to the point where it really doesn't effect anything.

[jkhan]

Sorry I didn't mean any offense, I have just seen to many articles mentioning each and every frame of the demo.

I think the reason for this is that they don't really render the whole character model. It would be waste to process a full character if we aren't gonna see it during gameplay. My guess is they are generating a more static type of shadow to compensate that. But again thats what I think.

[enviable27]

Then why make it a big deal? Let me guess Site Traffic?...Oh yea thats what it is

[LukaX23]

Why are people reporting this? Lol, no one else posted anything like this. This IS news.

[DA_SHREDDER]

The demo is the same game that everyone saw at E3 in 06.

[peeps]

seems people are nitpicking alot :/ maybe its a shadow from behind him/the rifle on his back? if shadows are the biggest worry in kz i think i'll stick with my pre-order tbh haha

[The gaming GOD]

I KNEW this would happen. Ps3 exclusive, High Ranked game. That means let the nitpicking begin.

I guess I should cancel my pre order then huh? The the most humorous part about this is most of this comes from random blogs nobody has ever heard of. Then we'll only see these sites once or twice, then they just fade away.

[Harryhit4]

Jesus, did you even READ the article?

He says it's only something he notice, not that he was bashing it.

[The gaming GOD]

Yeah I read it, and "bashing" wasn't the point I was making

[TheTwelve]

People are putting this game under Super-Man-strength-x-ray-exami nation but it will only let GG perfect the game when it comes out end of February. Might be GG's plan.

Been a gamer since '86 and I don't recall a game going through what this one has, so far before it's release. I've never seen so much hype and I've never seen so much anti-hype.

Has any game on N4G had over 150,000 degrees?

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[Harryhit4]

Then what was the point you were making? He clearly said it was just something he found.

[The gaming GOD]

"Then what was the point you were making? He clearly said it was just something he found. "

The POINT I'm making is that this is yet another high profile game that is going to get the microscope treatment to the point that random people with their blogs start to point out even the smallest inconsistency. It doesn't matter whether he "just found" something or not. I'm pretty sure this person has "just found" things in other games too. But more than likely doesn't take the time to throw out "articles" about those because they aren't high profile. That's just my assumption on that part.

[BananaSlug]

is this the best KZ haters can come up with???

[GiantEnemyLobster]

Doesn't even have dynamic shadows? pathetic, I thought this game was supposed to be a true 'next gen' game?

[LinuxGuru]

It does have dynamic shadowing. That's called a BUG, idiot.

But you're a Giant Enemy Lobster, I wouldn't expect you to know anything about bugs in a game.

[blackbeld]

That they called double shadow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MANN how stupid these reporters can be !!!!!!!!

[bpac123456789]

You stupid f*****, punk a**, bias piece of sh** fanboy. How dare you point out a bug in killzone 2....

No I'm just playin, I didn't realize it in the demo I was playing but it's cool you found it. I doubt cg will release a patch since it's such aSmall issue. But I hope it's not like this on every shadow. Because it's common knowledge that a small issue in an otherwise extremely polished game stands out more than a small flaw in an unpolished game.

[Counter_ACT]

Who cares?

[BrotherNick]

I think it's funny, are there any other games we can see the same thing happening? I think if it doesn't ruin the game it doesn't matter.

[Ravenator529]

Ok, you are holding your knife as your primary weapon. Where you think the other weapon is going to go? Do you think it magically dissappears and reappears?

The shadow you are seeing is the weapon that holstered across the characters back. It just looks as if he is holding it in his hand because the shadows overlap.

This is just rediculous.

[peeps]

actually i just had a look myself and as you knife you can see the characters other hand move clearly holding his gun in his hand. In all fairness i played through so many times and never picked up on it so like i said in my previous post, if these are the sorta problems making headlines then kz2 should be an amazing game

[Boty]

It makes me sick. Why dump on a game just because one eye is a different shade of red then the other or just because the shadows in the game aren't PERFECT! OMFG PEOPLE, GET OVER IT YOU MORONS! The game will play the same, I'm sure of it.

Peace to all who use logic and hatred to all who nitpick at ever little minor detail.

[NoiseBringer]

Maybe you caried a bazooka on your back?

[kewlkat007]

This is what happens when you have hundreds of thousands play a game, not just in review studios with like 5 guys.

I suspect there will be more once the game hits. I actually like to spot these in movies....subtle mistakes and glitches.

[thehitman]

It looks more like gun on his back then gun in his hand but I could just be a blind fanboy who knows.

[Itrguy001]

ok....... am i supposed to be shocked or something?

[yanikins111]

did anyone else notice that the shadowing of the non-existant guns was absolutely top notch? even the shadows that aren't meant to be there are beautiful ;)

[ar]

Let's face it. There will always be bugs and glitches in any form of software. The only way to polish all that out is to give the software infinite amount of development time. Killzone 2 seem to come pretty close to perfect and that's close enough for me (I say seem because I haven't played the full game myself yet).
Duke Nukem Forever on the other hand should rock. ;)

[MerkinMax]

Its only natural to look. I've been doing it for the past two days. The thing I think Guerilla didn't anticipate was people sprinting through the level which doesn't allow proper scripted events to take place naturally. When you first turn the corner in the beginning of the level and your two guys get mowed down by the three Helghast up on the ledge you usually A) watch or B) try to kill them. After that a soldier is trying to reccessitate one of your soldiers and is giving him CPR. If you were to sprint past the part in the beginning where the Helghast bring the pain on your soldiers you would see the soldier who is about to give the reccessetation get killed but then suddenly slide across the ground to his scripted job of CPR. A majority of the glitches occur when people play the game in an unrealstiic and unnatural way.

[MasterOne]

Dude, get a life. I love those little fanbabies. This is why it is a demo and not the production copy of the game. The Xboxites are getting nervous.

[SAiOSiN]

now that ladies and gentlemen is a nitpick.

i guess i'm going to gamestop to cancel my pre-order.\

/sarcasm

[LinuxGuru]

Oh please, are we going to have one story for every goddamned bug in the DEMO???

Get a life, people.

[cyclindk]

That's a good eye, you should be a tester.

[adlt]

Demo and Minor

[jaidek]

I need to play it to confirm, but if so good catch. I for one find this very relevant. It is a visual bug that needs to be taken care of. Its simple, the shadow geometry isn't being updated based on the main geometry's inventory.

With a game as large (number of models/assets) its easy to miss small details like this. But too many "misses" will eventually hurt the overall experience.