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Install Ubuntu On Your PS3 For Vintage Gaming Emulation

It's easy to forget that the PS3 is a fully-equipped PC in your living room attached to your house's best monitor. Installing Ubuntu can help you remember, and play SNES games in the process.

It still kind of surprises me (in a good way) that Sony was, from the start, very OK with PS3 owners tinkering with Linux on their PS3s. A modified release of Yellow Dog Linux was available from the very beginning, and some very handy hard drive partitioning and dual-boot utilities are baked right into the PS3's XMB; Ubuntu gets installed on an entirely separate partition of your PS3's hard disk, so your default system doesn't get touched and switching between Ubuntu and the XMB is a piece of cake.

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Cajun Chicken5979d ago

When I install a bigger HDD, come Summer...I might consider this.

xwabbit5979d ago

Ownage ^^. I will be getting a bigger HDD soon. The 500GB Western Digital Scorpio for 120 bucks on tiger direct :P

Zeevious5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

There are free tools to convert your own video's to use the space if your looking to extend it's media use.
http://www.redkawa.com/vide...
http://www.download.com/Koy...
(now at version 1.5, not 1.3 : http://www.koyotesoft.com/i... )

About the only thing you might regret is the automatic, but time consuming lengthy formatting of the drive.

Just think, if it came preformatted the world would be perfect...and how boring that would be!

prunchess5979d ago

I hope some one comes up with an Commodore Amiga emulator for Linux that can be used on the PS3. I've got a big collection of Roms.

Maddens Raiders5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

I just don't understand. After looking at the PS3 and what it offers, why would anyone even consider throwing their hard earned money away on anything else? I guess some people will just buy anything these days, no matter the condition of the economy.

TheUsedVersion5979d ago

If I was you I would get a 7200RPM drive instead of the 5200RPM you mentioned. It would be a wise investment even if you are paying a few extra bucks.

The Seagate above the WD you mentioned is a good choice.

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

Rockstar5979d ago

I can play nes, snes, Genesis, N64 (not well), PSOne, MAME etc, etc, on my modded Xbox...quite sweet actually. XBMC is sweet as well.

As far as which program to use for ripping movies for use with the PS3 I would suggest using a program to rip the main movie to your computers HDD, I use DVD Fab Platinum (free alternatives include DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink if you can find them).

The program I use to take those files and turn it into an XVid is called AutoGK...And the best part is this can rip the 5.1 digital audio and it's a free download, highly recommended to those with surround sound.

uie4rhig5979d ago

you cud install a 3.5" HDD which can go up to a recently announced 2TB :)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

Cajun Chicken5978d ago

You have great style and choice, I hope an Linux based Amiga Emu exist.

phosphor1125978d ago

USE YELLOW DOG LINUX. It was made specifically to make use of the ps3 architecture. As Zeevious has been saying in the comments. YDL will give you much better results than Ubuntu will. If you have a desktop and you want linux, go ahead use Ubuntu, but for your PS3 just stick to YDL.

Props to Zeevious for being the only one to mention it before me. Also, this article shouldn't have been approved. Not because it's bad, but it just tells you to use something less efficient when there is something that will run a lot better on the PS3, and you can do the same things, if not more on it. Shame on gizmodo for not doing their research.

prunchess5978d ago

Cheers mate. I spent years selling Amiga's and playing the games. I read the article and thought 'WOW i'd love to play Cinemawares' Wings or Turican on my 42" LCD.

If your ever looking for any Amiga ROMS PM me.

FarEastOrient5978d ago

I played World of Warcraft through my PS3 and Azeroth looks so good on a 42" TV!

Kevin McCallister5978d ago (Edited 5978d ago )

Yeah right. With no access to the GPU, WoW would never even begin to run if you somehow got it working with Wine. Even with GPU access, the game wouldn't run too well due to other limitations in the hardware. I don't even think Wine runs on PPC CPUs. And you definitely didn't get Crysis to run on PS3 as you stated below.

Kevin McCallister5977d ago

This isn't natively running on the PS3 though. If you wanted, you could play WoW and Crysis on a PSP or your cell phone, but neither of those devices will be doing any real work. FarEastOrient was describing the process below, as if it was actually running on the PS3.

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Jager5979d ago

Wow, any idea if i can install PC linux compatible games on the PS3 if i have Ubuntu? wouldnt mind putting BF2 or SC on my ps3 and putting in my Mouse / Keyboard.

Hallucinate5979d ago

no because i the gfx cars is lockdown pretty tight

krouse935979d ago

i think you can but because of the ram it wont play like it would if you had a game on a linux PC.

TheUsedVersion5979d ago

Like someone above said, access to the GPU is completely restricted. So in other words.... no.

FarEastOrient5978d ago

You have to run an SPE as live, instead of cache data as it does on a PC you need to trick the game into running the data live. You have a core run as a regular processor and than you "force" two SPE to run process RAM in real-time with the RSX as a bus and the GPU as the regular GPU, but you have another SPE running the GPU's data.

Does this work for you? So far I've got to run Crysis, World of Warcraft, and hopefully Starcraft II when that one comes out.

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zep5979d ago

YDL is the way to go if you want to play SNES on PS3 well it runs better on YDL as i tried both but i prefer Ubuntu over YDL its just looks so clean and simple :D and thers some windows game you can play like diablo and starcraft need some extra work tho

Zeevious5979d ago (Edited 5979d ago )

I don't think Ubuntu does, but this was such a thorough guide that anyone could follow, I thought it should be posted.

One of the first things I thought would be great when Linux Support was announced was running emulators like Mame, Sega, SuperNES etc because I really have an appreciation for the history of videogames.

It is amazing today starting an emulator of one of the very first consoles, the Magnavox Odyssey to the classic Atari 2600, then Intellivision, Coleco, NES, NeoGeo, CD32, Playstation Classic & Current, XBox Classic & Current and all the ones I'm sure I've missed in-between . . . and seeing the progression through history of where the whole industry came from a little Brown Box in 1967.

I'd love for someone to round up all the emulators, take a few hundred thousand votes and put together a collection through the past 42 years of history...through all the gaming milestones up to today.

Now THAT would be something...to play through 42 years of time as the history of videogames is created & evolves!

Hallucinate5979d ago

really? it took me about 40secs to format my 500gig..eneded up with 415 gigs though )=

Grandreaper99995979d ago

Haven't used much Linux.. But, I must say, with some tweaking, that logo could actually work.. Hell, it's got the three-theme to it. Wouldn't be straying TOO far from the color scheme from the psx logo either.

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A chance conversation with a retro game store owner forever changed my views on emulation

Nick Fernandez writes, "After decades of questionable practices around emulation, a chance conversation with a retro game store owner changed my views forever."

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Profchaos61d ago (Edited 61d ago )

This is a great article and it's what many in the retro community feel.

I still play on original hardware if I have nostalgia for those systems I have my nes, mega drive, PS1, n64, PS2 connected through a retrotink 2x to a OLED Bravia and I'm happy with the image. Sometimes it's not even the games but the sound of a PS1 laser firing that makes the experience the changing cart or disc it's cathartic

If I don't have nostalgia for the system like SNES, Saturn, Dreamcast I'll emulate and maybe use a Bluetooth knock off controller or NSO controller to feel sort of genuine like the SNES NSO gamepad is awesome.

I also use ever drives for the cart based systems I own a few classics I love like super Mario Bros games, sonics etc but retro gaming is expensive so everdrive gives me that full library like emulation but I have the right gamepad in my hand because some systems just don't feel right unless you have the right controller mainly the N64.

But I'm under no illusion I'll have my retro systems forever all the console will inevitably die and that where emulation becomes vital. Its great for preservation and it helps make these old games accessible to younger generations who may wonder where their favourite franchises started and expose them to new things like games from the 8 and 16 bit era which still hold up really well.

anast61d ago

I enjoy articles like this. It's actual game journalism. I would love to read more about the context of the store and the owner one day.

Games_People_Play61d ago

I started out completely against downloading emulators and roms. I considered it stealing.
However, recently, with companies like Ubisoft and others, telling me I don’t own my digital only game, and even the physical games that I do own are incomplete on physical media, some with nothing more than an executable file, on disc so that I have to download the entire game anyway. I have since changed my opinion on the subject. If game publishers don’t care about me, trying to do the right thing, then I’m not going to care about them. The industry brought this upon themselves.

DivineHand12561d ago

At this time, emulation is the number one way to ensure game preservation. Even Sony and Nintendo is using this method officially to make older games playable on their consoles.

If my emulation were to go away then there is a chance the retro gaming market is likely fall into an even smaller niche since the newer generation of gamers will not even know those games existed.

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EmuDeck announce the ‘EmuDeck Machine’, their first hardware product

The team behind EmuDeck is launching their first hardware product in the form of small retro emulation mini PCs.

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darthv72290d ago

...hmm, pretty much anyone can make their own out of a raspberry pi. I use it on my steam deck and soon my ps vita.

PRIMORDUS289d ago

Looks like a Dreamcast, I like it😎

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Dabigsiebowski289d ago

If you are a serious gamer and want the best outside of OG hardware then I'd strongly suggest a Mister FPGA. Hardware emulation is the way forward.

CobraKai288d ago

I like it. I don’t have the time to figure out DuckStation. This is great. I like that it’s an emulated Dreamcast design

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PlayStation 5 PS3 Native Emulation Could Be Held Back by Important Technical Limitations

Due to the Cell processor that powered the system, PlayStation 3 emulation on the PlayStation 5 could be held back by important technical limitations

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TheNamelessOne346d ago

All that processor ever really served was to make game development harder for most people. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Markdn344d ago

Your right, well up. Till the point they realised how to program it and then it became a monster, they way it off loads tasks to spus and they way it manages this is astounding, I wish they had just upgraded it for ps4 gave it more ram to its disposal as it would truely have been a monster, instead we got an under powered AMD chip and some of the guys here we very disappointed indeed. For a cost point of view it made PS4 more affordable but from a development point of view, we already had the development tools and software

yeahokwhatever344d ago

all that processor did was wipe the floor with its competition. like, badly.

TheNamelessOne344d ago

I remember most 3rd party titles being the runt of the litter when it came to ports that generation.

yeahokwhatever344d ago

EA made a few bad ports in the opening months of the release. compare 1st party titles. go ahead. do it. oh you cant. not even the same league.

ZycoFox345d ago

Ignore because they're good at tech/frame rate analysis? K..

1nsomniac344d ago

Ignore because they’re arguably widely recognised as one of, if not the best source in the industry… great logic. Well done.

fsfsxii344d ago

They offer surface level analysis, its like that Tv overlay that displays the framerate, they absolutely have 0 clue with anything development related, or anything behind the scenes, and more often than not, they’re a propaganda machine.

1nsomniac344d ago (Edited 344d ago )

The irony being they clearly do know and they continuously prove that they know.. Relentlessly. If these comments aren’t sarcasm then they’re a sure fire way to make yourself look a bit stupid.

Aggesan344d ago (Edited 344d ago )

I think they're among the best in the business when it comes to frame by frame analysis, but they often speak on topics where they're not more informed than any other interested and passionate amateur. Quite often it's painful watching their show when they state things like facts when they're in fact wrong, and knowing that most of their viewers will assume they're 100% correct about everything they say. I still enjoy them though, especially the retro stuff.

RaidenBlack344d ago

lol, one slightly -ve take from DF and bam! ~ " Ignore "

Huey_My_D_Long344d ago

For those who say DF doesn't know what they are doing...Gotta give us a hard example not a generalized statement.

TheEroica344d ago

Sony beggers raging at DF because Sony can't feed them enough remakes and old generation content to keep them happy. Yikes!

VariantAEC344d ago

DF... the same people convinced PS5 and Xbox Series consoles couldn't do raytracing? The same people who didn't consider PS4 Pro was running AC7 better than Xbox One X due to PS4 Pro's CPU rapid packed math feature while I was telling them to look into it? The same people that are still confused about the PS5's capabilities against XSX's despite all the information being handed to them on a silver platter by Mark Cerny which some smarter gamers with some programming experience have been telling them since the road to PS5 talk was done? Those people?

Yeah, I think I'll continue to pass on any superficial opinion-based observations they make about game developement, too.

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neomahi345d ago

Here they are using NATIVE again like they know what it means, they don't.

meganick344d ago

I’d like to see someone explain why you’re getting downvotes. You’re correct. If software is running on native (original) hardware, then it’s not being emulated. If it is being emulated, then it’s not running on native hardware. “Native emulation” seems to be a bit of an oxymoron.

VariantAEC343d ago

DF doesn't know what "native support" means... it doesn't seem like you know either. Native support can mean emulation, but meaning the original hardware is not required, but it also means no downloads. "Native support" means that nothing additional is required to run the software as intended. You can certainly call a software emulation layer on PS3 for PS1 games native support because it ran software from the disc needing absolutely nothing else to work properly. The PS1 hardware was not on PS3, but the games were still natively supported.

Xbox backward compatibility support is not native, no games run from discs without downloading a repackaged app to run. That is not native support and we all agree DF is blatently lying by suggesting it is.

All consoles run repackaged legacy games this gen, which is exactly why the PS3 is still the gold standard for backward compatibility on consoles to this very day. You would simply pop in any PS1/2 disc and they'd just run without needing anything else from anywhere. Apparently, the newer PS3's (no Emotion Engine) still ran the majority of PS2 games.

meganick343d ago

@VariantAEC

First off, you’re using a different term than me. I was talking about the use of the term “native emulation.” But you’re using the term “native support.” Maybe that’s the same thing. I’m not sure.
So from what I gather, “native emulation” means emulation that doesn’t require a download. In computer terminology, I’ve always thought of “native” as implying original hardware, or at least original components.

Eonjay345d ago

Would really love to play some Infamous and Resistance.

InUrFoxHole344d ago

I never understood the love for resistance... I found it the be mid at best. Infamous 2 was good. Would be great to play killzone again

TheNamelessOne344d ago

Outside of the third game, the series was definitely average.

anast344d ago

The concept was cool. I would day 1 a current gen version of the title.

babadivad345d ago

It's only a matter of time before Xbox has PS3 emulation before Playstation because of them dragging their feet.

Bathyj344d ago

Be nice if they did. Be nice to have a reason to get an Xbox again after all this time .

RaidenBlack344d ago

OP's sarcasm comes from Xbox's superior emulation department ... likely the only efficient department at Xbox

Vits344d ago (Edited 344d ago )

I mean... it's really not that far-fetched. Emulation on the Xbox consoles is miles ahead of the PlayStation consoles. The Switch gets close if you jailbreak it, but it lacks power and the cool part about emulation on Xbox is that you just need a $20 dev account to use those features.

And if anything, the Xbox just doesn't have a PS3, Wii U, and Switch emulator yet because it lacks native support for Vulkan/OpenGL 4.3. The moment someone makes a new wrapper or it gets that compatibility, it will be a matter of weeks for those consoles to be playable on it as well.

babadivad344d ago

rpcs3 already perfectly emulates tons of PS3 games on PC. The Xbox already emulates the PS2 far better than Sony. As for the PS3 emulator, the only thing needed is for someone to create a uwp version of RPCS3 and you'll be good to go. There's already a 360 uwp emulator. I suspect RPCS3 will be ported over before the year is out.

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