Uncharted 2 to set the bar higher than Killzone 2

Naughty Dog claims to be fully utilizing the SPU's (Synergistic Processing Unit)on the ps3 and pushing the hardware even further than guerilla games. If true, this will be incredible seeing how Killzone 2 only uses 60% of the PS3's SPU's! This not only would give Uncharted the chance to capitalize in graphics but also in FPS (Frames Per Second).

[whateva]

because Uncharted 1 is a beast

[pain777pas]

Sony is starting to show its true colors and so is the PS3

[jack who]

more hype

[Gerry Mark II]

agreed and better than Womb Raider: Unsatisfying

[rucky]

Nothing to hype on the other end huh? ;)

[Gerry Mark II]

Trolling the PLAYSTATION®3 section again because you have nothing better comming out besides DLC, muliplats and more Halo spinoffs?

[KillzoneKid]

too bad

there is nothing to hype on x360

since all it has for 2009 are lame DLCs and crap games

[pswi60]

I bet November seems like a really, really long time ago....huh bud?

Karma is a b!tch

[NegativeCreep427]

Jack Who's obvious jealousy makes my heart shine!!!

[lokiroo420]

jack who, you will now be referred to as jack off! To the ps3 owners, were not surprised!

[likedamaster]

If anything needs the hype it's killzone 2 (especially with how bad part 1 did). Uncharted 2 will do fine.

[infamousinfolite]

You right he does got nothing to do. Seeing how the 180 got no games. Hey remember when xbots were saying how ps3 got no games well it's amazing how they eat their own words and karma it's a witch ain't it! lmbo

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

POOR xBot Zombie DLC Lemmings on this not having a good week are you!!!
;-D ;-D ;-D

The xBox 360 CAN'T outsell the PS3 by a lot World-wide in 2008 and it's dirt cheap!!!
;-D

KillZone 2 makes every xBox 360 game look like a N64 game!!! ;-D

xBots CRYING because PS3 owners are getting the BEST Games!!! ;-D

Resident Evil 5 WILL be better on the PS3(they hate me saying that!!!) ;-D
(like most Multi-format games were last year, but the internet try and fool everyone that the PS3 versions are worse...Most PS3 versions ARE the better versions!!!)

And now this...

AWW!!!;)

[dukadork2]

more tears

XDDDDD

[gersh]

You're making him cry.

[ultimolu]

...WOW.
If they achieve that...idek.

[meepmoopmeep]

what is idek?

[ultimolu]

I don't even know. >:P

*pokes*

[meepmoopmeep]

hahah, thanks

why did you get disagrees? lol.

[Hallucinate]

hey meep why cant i give you bubbles?

[cayal]

"hahah, thanks

why did you get disagrees? lol. "

Apparently someone thinks he does know.

[meepmoopmeep]

lol, i dunno why,

i lost 2 bubbles in under 5 hours today though.

lulz.
i don't really care about bubbles, i'd be fine with just one.

[ultimolu]

The other side has this sick hate/obsession with me that's why. :o

[Gerry Mark II]

Who cares? i just feel satisfied i can play Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 (the real GOW) only on the PLAYSTATION®3.

[TheHater]

couldn't agree more. We get to play those games, and that all that should matter to PS3 owners.

[Sarcasm]

Don't forget Gran Turismo 5...

*drools*

[TheHater]

God of war 3 is what going to shatter what we think is possible on the PS3.
But I don't care. I will be playing all three of those games :)

[Cajun Chicken]

This is Naughty Dog, as much as I like Killzone 2 and Guerilla, they will, Naughty Dog will. These are the 'maxers' of Playstation systems then Santa Monica takes over.

[LightningPS3PS3]

Uncharted 2 most likely uses the same graphics engine as Uncharted 1, and it was brilliant but I think the graphics will be about the same as Uncharted 1 with some additions,changes, and improvements here and there.

To me once the graphics engine is set,it's set. You can only do so much with it. We've heard this kind of thing before from developers of games like Motorstorm and Gears of War. Sequels of those games used the same graphic engines as the originals so they looked about the same as the originals. You're usually not gonna get shocking graphics from sequels that use the same engine as the their original counterpart.

Some people may think so, some people might think that Motorstorm 2 looked way ahead of motorstorm 1, some people might think Gears of War 2 looked way better than Gears of War 1.

But that's not how I see it.

But that's just my opinion. My money would be on that Uncharted 2 looks a lot like the original. Everyone else can do whatever they want with their money.

And go easy on the disagrees, I'm just telling you where my money is.

[SAiOSiN]

u honestly think people are going to take you seriously after your immature comments in the past? w/e im watching you though. want a bubble? ur looking a bit short.

[LightningPS3PS3]

The sad part is, I hardly ever troll or act immature. I just say the truth and people take away my bubbles.

I just call it how I see it. "PS3 needs a price cut" disagree all you want.

If I've said it 1 million times, it's because it's true 1 million times.

[KillzoneKid]

That kid lightning is one of the biggest Xbox fanboy in here

You can see his account at GAF too

all he does is troll

KZ2 looks miless better than anything we have seen

Ofcourse Uncharted is the second best looking game on cosoles

Uncharted 2> Killzone 2

ignore him

he trolls since his console has failed on him

[GVON]

I think U2 looks better already, check these direct feed screens

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

the res is higher than the final game but

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[gamesmaster]

its not that your comments are always immature, just sometimes you say things that just don't need to be said or are irrelevant to the context of the news (this being an exception), whch people see as tolling, i myself.

i understand what you're saying about the engine, but game engines can evolve, ps3 is essentially still infant in its architecture which reflects in the engines that are working well (uncharted's engine), i'm sure naughty dog will be able to utilize their tools much more and we'll see some improvements not here and there, but where it matters.

are you excited for unchartered 2 coz i am.

[rucky]

I'll give you a bubble too for becoming more and more sensible lately on your posts. But don't act like you weren't trolling before when your exact words are...

"I hope it's even worse than that, because Sony deserves a whooping"

"Time to end the embarresment, drop out guys. Can't wait till December NPD."

or

"Who buys a PS3? Only hardcore Playstation fans who don't value money."

[Cajun Chicken]

Not the way ND work on it, see the difference between the quality of the modelling on Jak1 to Jak2 (or Crash 1 to Crash 2). It'll be quite a large difference there will be even MORE details.

This is what ND do. However, the third game might just have minor tweaks. Much like Jak2-3-X.

[Hallucinate]

at OP.. i know what your saying people just dont think outside the box anymore its pretty damn sad

[yanikins111]

oh come on. Is No one going to even bring up that MotorStorm: PR's engine was rebuilt from the ground up to accomodate 4 player split screen? Huh? Or are we going to argue half truths?

Fact is alot of the look of games that passes on to sequals is art direction. Ie, Motor storm, Ratchet and clank, Resistance, Killzone->Killzone 2, even the Metal Gear Solid series that have branched over 3 console generations have their own distinctive art style.

[Meus Renaissance]

KillZone 2 uses 100% of the SPU. Direct comment from GG.

[TheHater]

But GG also stated that they can optimize it for better performance for future games.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Coding / technique is a never ending process.
With a fresh perspective and some tuning I'm sure that 100% could become 90% or lower.

[JBaby343]

The CELL (SPUs) are not good for gaming. Didn't you guys know? They could use 100% of all SPUs and it wouldn't matter. Haven't you seen how bad the first Uncharted was not to mention MGS4 and now KZ2.

/sarcasm

[Bubble Buddy]

Go DRAKE!

[VMAN_01]

Man its good to be a PS3 owner!

[Huh]

i believe in naughty dog they can do it

[hedak]

KZ2 =awesome
Uncharted 2=awesome (I Hope)
PS3=awesome

[Yomiro]

That's why the next gen starts 2/27/09

[dredgewalker]

I dont really care how they work out the SPU's im not gonna be thinking about that when Uncharted 2 comes out and i dont need to choose between the games cause they are day one purchase for me. I know Naughty Dog can pull it off and ill just leave the technical aspects to them and all the gaming to myself. =)

[darkdoom3000]

Cause Im getting both games!!! hehehehe!!!

[s8anicslayer]

if sony exclusives start to exceed the graphics prowess of killzone 2 then it's lights out for their competition.killzone 2 looks amazing

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Hopefully it will correct the god awful screen tearing in Uncharted. Playing thru it a second time right now.

Great game and Drake feels a lot like Indiana Jones.

Why didn't HipHopGamer include the actual quote from Naughty Dog saying they will set the bar higher than Killzone 2? This sounds like just an assumption based on the fact that ND claim they are using %100 of the SPU's.

[rucky]

Screen tearing wasn't THAT god awful crab (you're exaggerating again as usual) but it was indeed noticeable. Hopefully the sequel will be flawless on that aspect.

[swiftshot93]

yea the screen tearing and the pop-in. Other than that fantastic game.

[Sevir04]

it happens but it certainly doesn't make the game unplayable. i expect screen tears for a game like that with so much post processing effects and constant streaming going in. I'd like them to fix the texture pop-ins the first one had and make this the story even better than the already amazing story and narritive they had in the first game. it's simply amazing.

[Cajun Chicken]

I don't recall any severe screen tearing.

@Above
Yeah, would be great if texture pop in was sorted, that was really the only thing I noticed through Uncharted, but thats nearly on all games these days.
But hey! When Nathan's shirt got wet, it dried over time in the heat! Now, THATS awesome.

[JBaby343]

At release there was some screen-tearing but since FW updates I honestly rarely see any. The only times I notice pop-in is starting into Level 2 and level 18 (I think it's 18) right after Eddie gets killed in the vault. Otherwise I never saw any. Crab exaggerates.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Chill out. I never said it was a game breaker or I wouldn't be playing it thru a second time. I've played the game to death, have the platinum trophy and yes the tearing is noticable as is the pop-in, no exaggeration. If you want to deny it then by all means.

I like the game and I will say if you own a PS3 this is a must own title. Or am I just over exaggerating again? :\

[JBaby343]

You realize you are actually giving some praise to a PS3 game right? A PS3 game.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I had pop-in once...when you land, after parachuting.

Screen-tearing...I haven't had any issues with yet. I'm sure it's there. It's just not that bad.

I do have UTIII on PS3 though...and pop-ins happen CONSTANTLY! The 360 version was improved a bit and doesn't do that so much...because Epic built the game with RAM in mind.

The same goes with Gears of War 1 and 2 on 360 also...terrible pop-ins and screen-tear.

[Blitzed]

I absolutely love the game but there was screen tearing.

Cant wait for #2.

[GIJeff]

have you seen the new indiana jones movie? its as if lucas stole several aspects including plot, characters, and scenes from uncharted. weird..except uncharted was much better than indiana jones.

[yojoe26]

Naughty Dog can do to improve this game, in my opinion. It was and still is an absolute masterpiece in every single way. Story, game-play, character-development, level-design, graphics, etc. Everything about this game reeked masterpiece. The only qualm I had with the game was that it ended way before I was ready for it to. Of course that tells you how incredible of a game that it is that it kept me wanting more. Still though. If they add about five to ten more hours to the play length it will be absolutely perfect in every way in my book.

[PotNoodle]

Thats what she said.

[gametheory]

You guys know jack sh1t, this isn't news. How much do "hydrolex", "hip-hop gamer" and "Tordavis" know about hardware and game development? Wrong question. The right question is: Do they know ANYTHING?

[Pootie Tang]

Here's is the interview
http://www.ps3blog.eu.com/i...

Here is the quote:

PSU: In December, IGN’s Jeff Haynes stated that Killzone 2 was using only about 60% of the PS3’s SPU’s. Has that changed since then, and what are your thoughts on pushing the PS3’s limits in the future?

MdJ : To be honest I don’t know who said Killzone 2 only uses 60% of the SPUs as that’s simply not true. It all depends on what is happening at a certain moment in the game. In some (rare) cases when there isn’t much action going on the game doesn’t require all the SPUs to run at full speed, but there are plenty of combat heavy situations where we max out on all SPUs and run at 100%.

[Jrome]

Umm, GG said killzone 2 spreads the workload about 60% each SPU during intense scenes so that it is even. Am i wrong?

EDIT

Good find pootie

[gamfreak]

The moment i've been waiting for.... Let us gamers see what you can really do with the all mighty PS3, Naughty Dog....!!!!!

[Kushan]

Another sensationalist title from Hiphopgamer. Colour me surprised.

If you're actually naive enough to think that every PS3 game out there so far has never used all of the SPU's running at 100%, you've been incredibly misinformed on how games are made.
Games have ALWAYS pushed the hardware on whatever they've ran on, it's never been about "using as much of the processor as you can", rather it's always been "Get as much out of the processor as you can". That means programming in a certain way, using certain techniques, using the hardware to it's very maximum. This is why on every console ever released, the quality of games have always got better over time. You learn things about the hardware, you learn a new way to do something that's a few percent faster than the old way, it all adds up and it adds up well over time.

The PS3 was considerably different to any console released previously, so there was an uphill struggle for many developers as they had to learn so much just to get something to run well, but it's no different to any other architecture in terms of how it'll fare over time - it'll get better, it's the same for the 360, hell even the Wii will get better over time, it's just the way things work.

In fact, I think if Uncharted 2 DIDN'T look and/or play any better than the first one, people would be more surprised.

[gametheory]

If you did, you'd know that the port of the Orange Box on PS3 only runs on the PPU and the RSX, unoptimized. I.E. they "are not using as much" of the CPU as they can, they treated the PS3 as if it was a PC. That's why the game sucked ass on PS3. So yeah, they didn't use the processor as they should have, not because they couldn't get as much as they tried, but because they didn't use as much. That's what happens in multi-core computing.

"If you're actually naive enough to think that every PS3 game out there so far has never used all of the SPU's running at 100%, you've been incredibly misinformed on how games are made.
Games have ALWAYS pushed the hardware on whatever they've ran on, it's never been about "using as much of the processor as you can", "

So name one game that has used the cell processor to its fullest other than Killzone 1? Shut the hell up, the only misinformed one here is you. A single core processor can be taken advantage off a lot easier, just cram as much as you can on a single thread and you're all set, i.e. "get as much as you can" instead of "use as much as you can".

To balance the workload between all the threads available on the PS3 takes a lot more than just "Get as much out of the processor as you can", it's also about "using as much of the processor as you can", and initially few if any devs used "as much" as they could because they had little time to turn their last-gen code into next-gen code by splitting the workload between all the SPE's.

[JBaby343]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Kushan always posts stupid crap. Several developers have said they didn't even touch the SPUs. Especially in the early days. Naughty Dog even said they weren't using everything the PS3 has in the first Uncharted before release.