The Killzone 2 Let Downs, Why it isn't Scoring Higher

Gamer Limit writes "Anyone who has been to a Killzone forum would of noticed it has lit up with fan posts demanding why didn't it get a perfect score, eg IGN AU 9.0, IGN 9.4 rating, or more curiously why is it rated below Resistance 2.. Well below we try to help answer those questions."

[Liquid Snake]

Imagine if Sony gave $1000 swag bags to all the reviewers, like Microsoft did with Halo 3. This game would have 100% on Metacritic and Gamerankings.

I don't get this article, he is complaining about No Installs and No Co-op. Then we have other articles complaining about installs. Like the 'Yakuza 3, 5 gig install article'

Games like Half Life 2 and COD4 didn't have Co-op and yet it recieved perfect scores.

[jwatt]

The scores are good what the h@ll is wrong with you people.

[Liquid Snake]

nothing is wrong i was making a joke with the first sentance. Did you want me to edit the /sarcasm in?

In my mind anything above an 8.5 is good.

[MasFlowKiller]

Andrew Wiggin, Ziriux, chrisjc FAIL for approving this Article

Shame on all you guys.

[sonarus]

Ok i want to buy KZ2 infact i already paid for the full 60bucks for the game.

We all know its a great game but like pretty much every game i have ever seen it has some flaws here and there. So basically pointing out the minor flaws so those of us who are more interested in the game than in petty console wars earns reports. And wanting to know about the flaws (approving the story) basically means you fail.

I am a PS3 owner 1st and i hardly play my 360 but i have to admit PS3 fanboys are without a doubt by far the worst fanboys as far as N4G goes simply because of their lack of reasoning

[MasFlowKiller]

Shame on you too Zhuk

and this article is probably going to get approve

[INehalemEXI]

No Installation is now a negative lol. Installs used to be a bad thing not to long ago.. I like the weapons, and voice acting. Anyway its got a 95 Meta atm with most ratings being anywhere from 90 to 100 how is that not high enough?

This is just a sites cry for attention I guess.

[unicorndeathcamp]

half life out of it

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

Lower scores because it is playstation exclusive

[lil Titan]

dont forget the smoke from the RPG i mean talk about last gen oh and when you throw a grenade it explodes i mean this is just terrible, stuff around it like the walls look like they take damage i mean do they have to crumble give this game an F!!! but for real WHO THE PHUCK EVER HEARD OF GAMERLIMIT is it just me and i hope yall notice sarcasm when you read it

[Durffen]

Let downs? The scores are fine.

I'm so sorry not every site alive is giving it a 10.

Why isn't the scoring higher? Has the guy who wrote this even played the full game yet, or is he just another idiot who is basing everything off the beta?

IGN said the Multiplayer is flat out astonishing, where as the single player is also great, but not as good as the multiplayer.

The scoring isn't higher because these people are scoring based off of WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE GAME. You know, THEIR OPINION. They're not scoring it off of what everyone else wants it to be.

[myke6699]

Actually COD4 was given the same score form IGN, a 9.4.

[freeblue]

because the next time when they review any shooters after kz2. If they didn't minus half apoint or two becuase they dont' have co-op. or No "variations" just shooting.. all those reviewers will have a hell to pay.

[JokesOnYou]

Now, here we go with the conspiracy theories...

Its so funny when I read comments like "I bet [insert site name] will give [insert ps3 exclusive]a [insert score]."

If its a 10= "Wow, see everybody knows _____ would cure cancer"

If it scores lower than what YOU think it deserves= "Its a conspiracy"

I thought reverse psychology only worked on kids, I mean basically you fanboys have it made, if only in real life you could get away with such logic.

lmfao, do you guys even listen to yourselves, wake up; do you know how looney you sound?, nowhere else is the sanity level so warped from reality as it is on n4g, I love it, its so damm funny.

JOY

[arika]

don't worry my fellow gamers the perfect scores will come. count on it!

[dude_uk]

only one answer to this article..

http://img89.imageshack.us/...

ROFL

[Sitdown]

bribe bags out...but still it did not get perfect 10s from everybody...and how do you explain the tens for GTA IV? Ohh and did reviewers get the bribe bags before or after they released their reviews? And I have never seen the article for myself...can you post a link please.

[BrianC6234]

And what's with the flamethrower complaints? Did Guerrilla make a big change to it? I've seen some videos of the flamethrower in use and it looked great.

[CommonSense]

part of the perks of being a reviewer is you get access to final builds of games before other people. so if they played the whole game, and you only played the beta, who do you think has more experience with the game and has a better understanding for overall quality?

so who are you to tell them their review is wrong since you haven't experienced as much of the game as they have?

also, Resistance 2 didn't deserve to get over a 9. it's not that good. so i can understand being confused about why this game is scoring lower. but lets face it. very few games that score over 9 probably deserve that. 9.0+ is supposed to be the BEST. not good, GREAT. 9+ is given out like candy anymore. it's kinda embarrassing. why don't we all just ignore review scores and watch videos and read specs and form opinions on our own. and if you are unsure about a game, rent it...or goto a friends house n try it.

[Firstkn1ghT]

$1000 swag bags? Wow dude. Talk about stretching the truth.

Well maybe they should of followed Konami's lead and send every reviewer a free trip to Paris for the unveiling of MGS4 and have their reviews supervised and restricted. :)

[original seed]

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[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

You do know you're being prejudice with your comment? You contradict yourself with a contradiction.

[Why dis]

LOL

[Lord Vader]

Actually, the article raises really valid points.

No co-op, no vehicles, slow-down, long loading times, 9 hour campaign, & a "letdown" ending... doesnt mean it's not a great game, just that after 4+ years of development, massive hype, & a budget higher than Gears 1 & 2 combined, it still can't deliver all the features that other big games have, like Gears & Halo. But the graphics look nice.

Just because it isnt perfect doesnt mean it wont be a great game. The MP will hopefully give PSN the exclusive killer MP app it just doesnt have right now. I just wonder where all the power of BluRay & the Cell is if this kind of money & development time doesn't at least match the features found in COD:W@W...

[Mozilla89]

Since when did scoring in the 9's become a let down? I think a lot of people knew it wasn't going to get a 10.

[MisterNiwa]

????, oh well, isnt a Tank a vehicle? I guess we talk bout two different games.
Gears Of War 1 & 2 combined got less Vehicles than Killzone 2 with 3 for each army.

[Zool 08]

PS3 cant seam to win

Killzone2 gets bash for no install, bad acting? Didnt MGS4 get bashed for doing the opposite? Come on make up your minds.

[Pika-pie]

"Games like Half Life 2 and COD4 didn't have Co-op and yet it recieved perfect scores."

Yes and COD4 scored the same as KZ2... Whats your point?

That 2D rez beem texture looks so funny, I wonder if they put it in for a joke. I can pritty much agree with his points in the article if they are true.

[jammy_70]

they'll put coop on the psstore in the next 3-5 months i mean y not every1 will but it!

[JsonHenry]

Guys.. the game is scoring really well! WTF is your problem?!

[uie4rhig]

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Anyone who has been to a Killzone forum would "have NOT of" noticed it has lit up with fan posts demanding why "it didn’t not didn't it" get a perfect score, aka IGN AU 9.0, IGN 9.4 rating, or more curiously why is it rated below Resistance 2.. Well below we try to help answer those questions.

Before beginning>>,<< we must point out that Killzone 2 is by no means a bad game, and a few of "its NOT it’s" problem are very petty but nonetheless it just has a few areas where it could be more polished.
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and that is only the first two mini paragraphs.. we can all see where this is going?
yes this article looks like it's written by a 12-year-old that has yet to finish primary school..

kthxbai

[Jazz4108]

If this game scored a perfect 10, you people would still b!tch that it didnt get a 11

[BrotherNick]

Note: You're all giant losers. KZ2 can screw itself lol. PS3 is in the gutter. Let's all just agree with everyone so we don't feel like we made a bad purchase guys, yeah!

[BRG9000]

It amazes me how gamers can be so insecure. It's a good game. Enjoy it. Whether it gets a 9.0 or 9.4 or 10 isn't going to change how much fun you have with it.

[i_like_ff7]

how exactly does the flamethrower look bad?

[ThanatosDMC]

Also, isnt there going to be a post-launch patch for Story-line co-op? Or was that just a rumor. I remember reading about it.

[freeblue]

they want a flamethrower shoot flame covering the entire screen when you used it. like in those terminator or bamboo movies. americans like everything big and "bad ass" not realistic. just look at how fat we are.

[coolfool]

Flames filling the screen probably isn't the most realistic flame thrower.

I'm not exactly a flame thrower expert but here is how I imagine the best one's work.

If the flame was filling the screen that would indicate that the liquid fuel was being burnt before it had hit the target, this flame thrower would rely on the the targets clothes or something to be flammable for it to burn.

In killzone, the flame thrower looks like it is effectively spraying a flammable liquid that is alight. This would douse the target and continue to easily burn and cause damage after you have stopped spraying the target. This would be a much more effective weapon.

Summary: killzone flame thrower more realistic, less flashy.

[Jazz4108]

don't worry my fellow gamers the perfect scores will come. count on it!

Very true....Now start writing your blog reviews so they can get approved on N4G.

[JsonHenry]

Stand behind a real flame thrower (like at one of those cool gun shows/demonstration things) and it pretty much does fill up your entire vision when you pull the trigger.

However, it is a video game. And it looks the way it is. I agree it does not look the best, but everything else in the game is Top Notch and head and shoulders above what I thought the PS3 was capable of given its current line-up of games available.

[Ph1d0sX]

nothing wrong with not going for the usual high pressure propane flame thrower... right?

[Gray2]

Guys I'm pretty positive flame throwers are not at gun shows cuz they are illegal (even the US military bans them) so you couldnt have seen one being fired, at least not in the US...or legally. And all military flame throwers are napalm not propane. And all you would see would not be flame...its not a super wide flame it kinda arcs...um yeah...KNOWLEDGE FTW
But yeah Killzone 2 is gonna be amazing and its flamethrower looks super sick, realistic or not (its not)!

[vickers500]

@freeblue

Yeah, it's only americans that don't like that aspect of the game. It couldn't possibly be that people judge games based on their opinion, it definitely has to be an issue based on where someone is from.
/s

F*ck off you biggoted a*hole.

[PoSTedUP]

because it doesnt feel like it innovated on too many things, which is ok because if it does the "original" better than anyother game then what we have now is a crazy intence fps like no other with the greatest visuals to date only on the playstation3.

bu bu bu haaaayyloowwww.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Seems to me you can't enjoy this game without having to take a dump on another excellent game.

Do you really want to enjoy the game or you are more concerned about how much better than "haayyylloow" it is?

Halo 3 is a great game, good campaign with an excellent story and I suggest reading the books for you to fully appreciate it. Bungie is hands down the industry leader when it comes to community. Even Killzone is looking at Bungie.net for community ideas. The multiplayer is fun as hell and as far as a twitch fps goes it is one of the most fun I've had on consoles. When Halo 3 was released there was no CoD4 or Left4Dead and at the time it got the deserving scores. It was one of the most fun online console games there is.

As with all things the industry innovates and takes their ideas and improves on them and that has what's happened over the last 1.5 years so Halo needs to bring some new things to the table; maybe we will see that with ODST. But to sit here over a year after it's release and use the now standards to claim that it doesn't deserve the scores it got is lame.

The fan following Halo has gathered over the years is a testiment to it's greatness.

Killzone looks to be awesome and I can't wait to play it but stop dumping on PROVEN successful FPS's that many people are still enjoying.

[TheColbertinator]

Crab is right.All of you should just be glad that Killzone 2 got past a 90 on Meta and stop pissing on Halo 3,Cod4,Left 4 Dead,and Gears of War.

Just enjoy your game and let others do the same

[Montrealien]

stop it guys, to much common sense will implode the open zone tarts heads.

[lokiroo420]

Crab go eat a d1ck you fvcking tool!

[PoSTedUP]

wow i didnt know it would piss you off that much, wait, yes i did XD.

i win : )

*goes to setup his logitech steering wheel for GT5p*

btw i was only playing man, you didnt have to waste all them letters bro lol i didnt even read them.

[Capt CHAOS]

Well put.

[Ziriux]

Solid Snake, I just don't know why Halo 3 get's high scores in the first place. I can say for sure Call of Duty 4 was better than Halo 3 buy a dozen just as it is better than this game.

I love Killzone 2 for it's story that I think is a lot better than CoD's and other FPS games.

There is no bribes here, people are just fanboys from the first Halo, which was clearly the best.

@ I like FF7

Get passed the fanboyism, and look at reality, not everyone will love Killzone 2 sadly.

[Liquid Snake]

you mean Liquid Snake? Then again we are clones from the Big Boss.

[George Sears]

Yes but I am perfect and you are not brother from another mother.

[TheColbertinator]

lol @ Liquid and Solidus

I love n4g

[NipGrip]

What do you call a duffle bag full of schwag? Did everyone get one? Oh.. no, just the reviewers.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/...

Even included a Halo 3 XBOX 360!? No.. No bribing at *all*!

[Durffen]

Halo 3 360 was ugly, artwork was kinda boring, and the helmet didn't fit a house pets head like everyone thought. So I doubt Halo 3's reviewer duffel bag helped at all.

[resistance100]

Wait this guy is actually complaining that it DOESN'T have an install :S

[DeforMAKulizer]

The same exact thing i was thinking....
Mandatory installs = ITS SUCKS HAS INSTALLS!!!
No installs = WHERE ARE THE INSTALLS BRING THEM BACK!!!!

[SupaPlaya]

It order not to have a point deducted from your score, you need to make an install option - as in you have to have install even if you have no load times without it.

What an excellent standard we have here.

[trancefreak]

Article = major doody

[likedamaster]

LOL.

He clearly stated he would rather have installs than have loading screens and slow-downs(framerate dips).

Blind fanboys = Fail

[jack who]

lolz

[rucky]

"The biggest problem? No co-op. We pretty much knew from day one that their would be no co-op, but it still doesn’t make us feel any better. As you play through Killzone you’ll be thinking ‘DAMN this could be so much more awesome if I could play with a buddy; but sadly, you can’t. It would be fantastic if they released a patch that allowed co-op, but it seems doubtful."

Again a PS3 exclusive game getting nitpicked by the media. Nobody really complained about lack of coop on COD4 or the lack of multiplayer on Bioshock. But as usual these so called 'gamers' haven't changed their ways on PS3 games still.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Welcome to "News 4 Double Standarders".

Anyway, Co-op wasn't cofirmed to come after release, as a DLC?

[Serjikal_Strike]

they hate the flamethrower...the plasma gun..or better yet all the guns..
they hate the ending...
they hate the voice overs...

It seems like they never wanted to like this game , no matter what!
And besides the point its getting great scores ,just cuz theyre not 10s dont mean sh1t!

[Ziriux]

I think it would have been a good idea to include more of the modern weapons as well.

I actually like all the weapons, but would have loved a nice little .50 cal.

[Aclay]

I can't believe there's actually people complaining about KZ2 not getting a bunch of 10/10's across the board.... honestly I never expected it to happen just because it was Killzone 2 and so much controversy around the game, but I'm just as happy to see it get so many 9's, 9.5's and a couple of 10/10's.

And this article is actually complaining about No Install?! LOL, if KZ2 had an install, they would probably be the first site complaining about it... hypocrites.

If Killzone 2 had more Multiplayer options like Co-op and whatnot, then I think it might have scored higher, but like I said, I'm happy with the reviews. Articles like this can't stop the KZ2 hype and it WONT stop people like me from buying it Day One.

[Douche Nozzle]

"can't believe there's actually people complaining about KZ2 not getting a bunch of 10/10's across the board.... "-AclayPS3

I think the people here(or at least the non-Sony fanboys here) just want them to use the same review standards that they used to judge Halo3 & GTA4.And Halo3 & GTA4 were WAYYYY more hyped than Killzone 2 has been. KZ2 has GOT to be better than or at least AS GOOD as BOTH those titles.
I mean come on...it's like comparing Al Pacino & Robert De Niro.
Pacino's great but De Niro blows his ass away.

[LightningPS3PS3]

Those are pretty good scores

between 9 - 10's.

anything 9 or above is a success, now it's time to see if gamers like it and if the hype is enough to sell.

the difference between averaging a 9.2 and 9.7 doesn't mean that much. It's really the hype and how people take to it that matters.

Reviews can be overrated, for example take GTA 4. It's got higher scores than GTA 3, no F*cken way GTA 4 is better than GTA 3. GTA 3 revolutionized gaming, GTA 4 didn't do sh*t.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

i have to agree gta4 is my list favorite but san andreas vice city had the best stories gta4 just copy same betrayal den get revenge

[Why dis]

The PS3 demographics(DVD fans) are not in Sony's favor when talking about sales.

[Ziriux]

Aclay exactly. This game needs 10's like GTA IV, Bioshock and few others games got. I was hyped for it and still bought it but I expected it to be a 10, which it isn't but I still love it.

One tip I can give to everyone is do NOT listen to what reviewers have to say, it's only a dumb opinion.

[tatotiburon]

LMAO------------------>

[goflyakite]

^ LMAO ^

...idiot

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

^LMAO^ and -----> LMAO

[borgome]

^LMAO^ <-------LMAO

[PS3Freak]

WHAT?!?!

[Ziriux]

Just like all of you in here have the right to post your opinions so does the guy that wrote the article. To the dude that said Duplicate story, nice one man, everyone wrote a different way of what made this game not a 10. Grow up guys.

[Cartesian3D]

95/100 average in metacritic.com is LOW score? (based on 13 reviews eurogamer included)

95 is the best exclusive-game average score on metacritic evar (beside Littlebigplanet 95)

[aslucher]

and didnt half life 2 get a 96 on metacritic??? i think in steam it displays it as a 96 but i looooove that game sooooo much!

in my opinion NOTHING deserves a 10/10 or 100%, NOTHING IS PERFECT!

[Huh]

does the person that wrote this article have all his marbles in place

[unicorndeathcamp]

im pretty sure earlier you said you were gonna take a picture of you opening the game and ask if HE has all his marbles?

[Pennywise]

You dont like jokes do you, Unicorn?

[Ziriux]

Too bad every person that reported the article is a Sony fan. You guys are low and embarras the rest of us Sony PS3 owners. If any xbox peeps are looking please approve this crap.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

@Above.

Well the thing is, some of those reasons are bull#$#%.

I can understand maybe the medic gun, but the flamethrower? No Co-op?

No installs? Every other game has normal weapons, but people are fine with those.

I can understand the voice acting, and maybe the ending, but some of these reasons aren't valid to detract from score or overall experience

[TheColbertinator]

ROFL

Killzone 2 already got the 9's.Stop complaining.

Most of us expected it to get 7's.Just enjoy your damn game

[BLUR111]

LOL most them probaly won't even get the game

[Zeevious]

This is about a game?
.

I thought it was about who's got the smallest . . .

.

Awww darn . . . I win again.

[Ziriux]

@ Steven

Most of us? Maybe you expected it to get 7's. I for one thought it get a high 9 like most did, but it got a good score just like CoD4, which is good.

[TheColbertinator]

Well yes many of us did.After all Guerilla got 7's in their past games.

However I am surprised at how well it fared

I think it might get past Halo 3 in Meta but Cod4...lol I don't think so

[Traveler]

I don't really understand your comment, Steven Colbert. COD4 and Halo 3 are both sitting at a 94 on Metacritic, so if Killzone 2 averages higher than Halo 3, wouldn't that mean that it also averages higher than COD4?

Anyway, so far it is higher than both of them (95). I guess we will have to see where it is at when all the dust has settled.

[Hellsvacancy]

Does anybody know if it will get a Co-op patch? (stupid question i know)

[grantps3]

yeah its the flamethrowers fault its not the top selling game on gamestop and 2nd on amazon.....oh wait it is. lol

[jackdoe]

What the hell? Since when do people compare about 9's? 9's are great scores!

[Imallvol7]

Killzone 2 number 2 selling item in videogames on Amazon right now and still a month away . . .

[N4360G]

So if Killzone 2 doesn't get all perfect 10's it fails? LOL.I will be picking up this beast for my PS3 next month!!

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Some of those reasons are pretty bad.

People always complain about installs, and now it's the no installs they hate? Oh the irony.

they didn't like any of the weapons, and plenty of games don't have coop, yet this one gets hit for it.

Voice acting however, I can understand.

[joevfx]

this articel is written by an xbot trying to make the game soudn bad for un informed people. i havnet seen a score less then 9 for this game yet.

[Bigrhyno]

Most of those are reasonable complaints. They are reasonable enough to lower the score, but none really are going to affect my view of the game. Co-op would be nice, but when I look back on it, my time doing other things far outweighs my time playing co-op in other games (except R2 and L4D).

[Sarick]

There where no positives from what I saw only negatives. If that's how reviews are written then everything should be rated a 1. Reading that review tries to take 9 rating down by talking about it likes it's a complete failure as a FPS.

[StoneySweatLeafs]

Wow Sony Fanboys are morons. I own a PS3, I personally don't think that 9.0 and 9.4 are bad scores. All of you complaining should shut it. You have not even played the game yet.

[SupaPlaya]

should say Fanboys are morons instead.

[Imallvol7]

um . . . I dont see anyone complaining about it except for this stupid article. Lol, this guy complains about there not being a mandatory install. Sony can't win, no matter what they do. Nor Sony fans.

I see some complaining above, but that seems to be stemming from the fact that Halo 3 and GTA4 got 10's. GUYS, THESE GAMES GOT SCORES THAT WERE LESS THAN 10 ALSO!!! 95/100 on metacritic is a HUGE SCORE. Just let the reviewing mistakes that was GTA4 and Halo 3 go. It's over now.

[NipGrip]

I haven't seen anyone complaining about the scores, instead I've seen plenty of "Why Killzone 2 isn't perfect" type articles already. It's meant to imply people are disappointed or expected it to receive perfect 10's when I don't think that is the case.

Next, there will be articles saying, "Why Killzone 2 didn't sell 10 million copies". Not that anyone expected it to, but others will say, "Those idiotic Sony Fanboys! Expecting it to sell 10 million copies!?"

[Simon_Brezhnev]

lmao @ these damn fúcking n4g mods make sure dis get posted damn near 20 reports and it still get posted but let it be a damn 360 doom article they fail it quick

[BLUR111]

kujbjk;afbo;u koaog8a olo;o;a0p99 poind ! DIS n4g go hell make rock into water is care really kilsone 4

[Simon_Brezhnev]

u fúcking retard stop stalking me

[Deios]

The scores are good enough. We have to remember that the scores are just from one person's point of view.

[NegativeCreep427]

is the fact that he/she/it is complaining about NO installs. Did you get that? NO!!! installs.

What ever happened to the days where people would bash the PS3's software for containing installs?

LOL!!! *laughing my a$$ off while I'm sipping a Samuel Adams Winter Lager* The double-standards and d!ck-headed complaints concerning the Playstation 3 thrive on!!!!!!!

[titomister10]

All I saw on that article was poor, horrible, terrible, and bad. And it's funny how the author says it's an awesome to cover up that fanboyism of his. Killzone 2 is going to be an amazing game and better than all xbox 360 games. Even though this game hasn't been released yet, it's a 10 in my book and by other reviews I've seen.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

LOL. How ironic you say this person is covering up their fanboyism and then you go on to say that Killzone 2 will be better than any 360 game and you've not even played it yet.

I think most PS3 nutters are more worried about being able to say "It's better than XXXXX 360 game" than if it's actually good.

You are welcome to your opinion but I've played some amazing games on 360 from all genres and if this one FPS is better than them all I have to disagree.

[JokesOnYou]

I disagree with the notion that KZ2 scores are low, but then again unlike some I never thought it would get 10's across the board since imo even compared to shooters from over a year ago its pretty limited except in the graphics dept, although Iam encouraged that IGN said the multiplayer was very deep....but whats really SAD is how childish sony loyalists react by trying to censor the news according to their personal emotions rather than the guidelines.

JOY

[Jake the Muss]

Look JOY, I'm not disagreeing with your point... but to make the accusation: "....childish Sony loyalists react by trying to censor the news according to their personal emotions" is a little on the hypocritical side, wouldn't you agree?

http://www.n4g.com/PopUpPag...
(Story: D*mn you Microsoft)

http://www.n4g.com/PopUpPag...
(Story: Massive layoff at Xbox division)

Yes it is sad. But my point is, both sides do it. PS3, 360 fans... no, that doesn't make it right. But don't point the finger at one group and pretend your own mates don't share the same qualities.

[JokesOnYou]

If I don't like it or I think its garbage I either comment and say so, or I just dont read them.

Also by and large sony loyalists are notorious offenders of picking and choosing the news, sure plenty of sony is doomed crap was allowed but there has been far more stories that were newsworthy under the guidelines that was reported by pro sony folks than what is typically reported by pro 360 folks, lets not even get into comparisons of who had more negative media, micro was hammered plenty on the RROD issue= MOST OF IT WAS JUSTIFIED but I remember a time when we had daily posts everyday from every *single Joe with a blog writing about his broken 360? It was waaaay overdone say what you want but it was waaay overdone on this site, and there was plenty of other unfounded anti-micro BS posted too. Nobody's targeting sony thats just how they media is they blow EVERYTHING out of porportion no matter who it is. I would *almost believe there was some merit to this unfairness but theres just too many examples of negativity towards micro, and 360 games that didn't meet expectations. Look at how much heat they get for their OS, and games like Too Human that didn't live up to the hype, they all take their fair share of bashing, thats just life.

JOY

[Jake the Muss]

Credit for your mature response, JOY, although I never implied that you reported certain stories, only that some of your fellow 360 supporters did.

However I feel that perhaps a reason why "sony loyalists are notorious offenders of picking and choosing the news", as you put it, is likely because N4G has a larger proportion of PS3 supporters than 360 (which I doubt you would disagree with), rather than a higher common propensity among them to censor the news. It only takes a few of the hundreds to report, after all.

I would also like to point out that even "sony loyalists" tire of negative Xbox news, unless someone would like to claim the reporter Shane Kim is actually a secret 360 supporter:
http://www.n4g.com/PopUpPag...
(Story: Is the Xbox 360 in Real Trouble?)

I agree, however, that the media's slandering of Microsoft's OS Vista was unwarranted, likely fueled by negative preconceptions and clever marketing by Apple. The same goes for RODD articles, Blu-ray, Sony is doomed etc... Negative media may be a way of life (and a sure way of gaining hits), but that doesn't mean that it has to be a part of every N4G news posting.

Nevertheless, my point still stands: that both sides report and censor the news based on their brand preference, not just "Sony loyalists". I feel that the day Killzone 2 (one of the most heavily scrutinised titles in recent memory) ranks a 95% on Metacritic, and articles pop up claiming a letdown and listing reasons why it didnt score higher is a shameful day for the gaming industry.

[James Vanderbeek]

i thought it looked sick in the videos

[JokesOnYou]

I'd have to agree with IGN, in their video review they show the flamethrower in action and lets just say its *funny considering how good the rest of the game looks.

JOY

[Ziriux]

Yes, thank you Xbox 360 fanboys for approving this. Just because a site has an opinion you guys reported crazy. If i wrote an article saying "Why Killzone 2 Killed Halo" you would be all happy and commenting good without reporting.

[ALIEN]

Well! I think the flamethrower looks awesome! I don't understand why alot of people try to find something just to hate on a PS3 game. I don't understand why halo and gears get high scores, because gears multiplayer is waaaaack! and HAlO3 graphics look lat-gen compare to KZ2. Why they don't talk about that? why they don't compare gears multiplayer against KZ2 multiplayer. From what i seen and heard KZ2 multiplayer will destroy gears multiplayer. The media these days is garbage, Maaan!

[retrofly]

Theres probably 0.2 score markdown on metacritic becuase its not multiplatform. Though how you would get KZ2 onto a Wii is beyond me :P.

Ignore this "Author" (I use the term losely) theres nothing worth reading here.

[chanto23]

the screen shots and complaints are taken from the IGN video review LMAO!!!!

EPIC FAIL attempt to bring an awesome game down...

[Rmagnus]

wtf how the hell did KZ2 let that idiot down, I couldn't give a crap if it scored less than 10/10 for all its reviews, since when has 9++ ever been bad?

[mrdxpr2]

ok then those scores a great they arent the best but they are above 90 ...ot deserves better but hey just enjoy one of the best games to grace any console...we all know this is the best overall game on any console and nobody can say other whise thats the websites opinion and for sure im gona enjoy it soo u all should too... but after this we go to GOW 3 woooot... and then watever gets my atention

[The Captain]

I am surprised graphics are not getting 10!

But bravo KZ 2

[AxeCain]

No Co-op? This has been stated that it will be patched in a couple of months after release? Is this correct? How is a No Install a bad thing again? First it was bad if a game had an install now its good if it does.... Make up your minds....

O well I cant wait for this game. First Day Purchase!

[Bathyj]

The weapons?. They're supposed to be realistic. Too bad if there are no Plasma rifles or Needlers. Screw em.

The acting? Marcus Fenix is the most annoying voice I have every heard in a game, and yes I've played Resident Evil. I seriously prefer Gears 2 with the sound off, but I've never heard that mentioned in a review. PS Brain Cox FKN rules.

Co-op? Again with the no co-op. How about mentioning it has bots. Thats like 16 player co-op if you set the right game up. Bioshock didnt even have multiplayer, did anyone complain? NO !

Thses whiners are a bunch of FKN losers. I could understand if they had real legitimate gripes but they're just kicking over every stone they can trying to find some dirt because they're too small to admit they all said GG couldn't do it, and they have.

There might be heaps of good shooters, but Goldeneye, Halo, Halflife 2, Killzone 2, these are the only shooters in my book since Doom that really raised the bar and changed our expectations. And there wont be another name added to that list for years unless MAG or maybe Huxley turn out to be something special, and even then they would have to do it through scale, they wont touch this quality.

[vlazed]

The complaints about the recoil of the weapons are entirely off base. Killzone 2 is a military shooter aiming, no pun intended, for realism. Physics is the glue that holds the realism together. This extends to weight, gravity, and force. I don't know what guns these journalists have fired, but you would find anyone hard pressed to be dead accurate on the run with a P90 ala COD4. I will now reinforce the stereotype of Texans and guns, because yes I live in Texas and yes I have and shoot many guns.

[Bathyj]

I fire pistols and you're right.

Firing a gun is not like pointing a mouse and clicking. Its harder than that. And if you're moving at all, even slowly stepping, then your aim will be way off compared to standing still in a proper stance with your arms braced in the correct manner.

I actually forsaw that GG's realism approach with slow movement compared to other shooters and accurate recoils and reloads would be picked on by some. Pardon GG for trying to do something different. This world has rules. Weight, momentum, physics. Not every game can have a power ranger suit where you jump and float 10 meters in 3 seconds. Thank FKN God.

Anyway, these petty quibbles, and they are extremely petty, wont mean sh*t come launch day, because we will all be able to see for ourselves, and with full confidence and knowledge, laugh at anyone who tries to bash this game for anything so stupid. The proof will be in the pudding.

[macalatus]

I'm a US Army vet and firing a weapon in automatic mode will not get you Hollywood-style results where bullets seem to be laser-guided projectiles.

A lot of the crybabies who argue about KZ2's aiming are spoiled brats who just can't wean themselves from COD4's auto-aiming.

[Bathyj]

Yeah COD4's aim was crap. You hold aim and it snaps to the target. Tapping aim snaps to the next one. Now thats realism. Its taking the autoaim most console shooters have a little of and taking it to the extreme.

[pwnsause]

WTF?

[METtAL-GAMER]

What are you talking about?Killzone 2 has been scoring 9's and 10's across the board.What is that not good enough?

[OhReginald]

are you kidding me? im a HUGE KZ2 fan, and im glad its getting 9 out of 10 reviews.

[SupaPlaya]

Click me! I'm hot!

[Graphics Whore]

10's and 9's are such a let down. /sarcasm.

[METtAL-GAMER]

Did you have to put the end sarcasm at the end of your sentence?

[kewlkat007]

...I wonder how long the legs will be for this game after hardcores get their share...

[Pseudo_Clash]

did you guys even bother to look at what gears of war 2 scored on ign. It got a 9.5 overall from the U.S, 8.9 from Aus, and 9.2 from the UK. Killzone right now has a 9.4 from the US and 9.0 from Aus. With 10s in the graphics department coming from the latter. The author of this article is a no name moron looking to get all you guys upset. I mean how many games released last year have a 9.0 and above average. Not many! The reviews that are coming are f*cking great at this point. We should just be excited.

[Crazywhitie]

why do you guys keep comparing Gear2 with the Ps3's Masterpieces.. R2 and KZ2 are FPS,, Gears2 was a 3rd person big Difference... the only thing you should be worried about are sales.. this game took 5 years to make thats a lot of money...If it does R2 or LBP sale I don't think the worth is there

[Neo604]

it might be an alien flamethrower or the one from the future wich might use different enery beside gasoline.

[dude_uk]

http://img89.imageshack.us/...

HAAAAAAAAAAA THE KZ2 CRAZE!!!!
LOL

[Crazywhitie]

I glad to see the Truth finally come out about this game, I said the Explosions and fire was bad, and now I'm not the only one who sees this... This game still looks fun, But only a Rental for me unless the online is super good... $60 for 10hrs of play isn't worth it to me... Now that this game was supposed to be 10's across the board and only getting 9's.. It looks like it won't help save the PS3.... For all the people out there saying FPS of the year... remember COD 6 Still to come and infinity Ward is back at the helm... Can't wait for that.... See you guys online..

[retrofly]

lol, you lose.

[Covenant]

Because even a great game isn't going to score all 10s.

Don't think this will hurt its sales one bit.

[ironmonkey]

either way this game is a must have!!!!!

[rhood022]

So these scores:
OPM US: 5/5
OPM UK: 9/10
OPM Aus: 10/10
OPM Spain 9.5
OPM Netherlands: 91 (only reviewed single player portion)
Level 8/9
Gamepro: 5/5
MAXIM US: 3.5
MAXIM UK: 5/5
MegaGames.com: 9.9
576Kbyte: 9.7
Gameplay: 20/20
PSX Extreme: 95%
Hobby Consolas: 9.4
Eurogamer: 9/10
IGN USA: 9.4
IGN UK: 9.4
IGN AU: 9.0
Gamepro 5/5
Gamereactor (swedish): 10/10
Meristation: 9.5
Eurogamer.pt 10/10
Eurogamer.es 10/10
Gameplayer: 9.5
Empire: 4/5
Vandal 9.6
PSLife (denmark) 9.5
Gamepro (spanish) 10
Inside Gamer (dutch) 9.5
Konsolifin (finnish) 5/5

are bad? The lowest is a 3.5 from Maxim, there are two 8s and the rest are 9 and up.

So the new anti-Killzone spin is saying that 9s are not high enough? Amazing.

[Spike47]

and this is defeintly a title that is not overrated with loads of perfect scores.

[macalatus]

If we know deep down inside that we're going to enjoy the game, then screw 'em! Scores given to GTAIV is proof that just because it has all the highest scores across the board doesn't it will really appeal to everyone else. And as we all know...GTAIV was a letdown to a whole lot of gamers, even 360 fanboys no longer brag about their so-called, "$50 million-down-the-toilet" exclusive GTAIV DLC because no one gives a damn about it (after playing the game).

I'll even admit that the 360 fanboys are a bit better in this regard: If Gears got an average "8" score it wouldn't stop the 360 masses from buying Gears of War 2. So what does this tell us Sony fans? Let's get the game, enjoy every second and "death motions" of the game, and let the 360 fanboys laugh at the scores...while they cry as they don't have anything to play.

[Sarick]

If there are good scores across the board that means success. A famous game means a lot of excitement positive press chatter. What you have is people seeing those high numbers and saying, That must be a good game I'm gonna buy it/rent it whatever.

This means people tell friends and their friends tell more friends. Is it not obvious that popular games are system sellers because they draw attention to whatever consoles they're made for?

Who cares about ratings? Pretty much anyone who spends wisely and researches what games are cool. They might ask a buddy or read reviews. The point is if their research leads them to high ratings they're more inclined to make those purchases.

BTW: I still agreed with you. The points you made are totally valid about not everyone having the same taste. Just didn't think no one cares about scores was fitting. My post topic and it's content explain why I feel this way. ^.^

[jams_shop]

Let down or not, on Friday February 27 around 1:30 am or so I'm going to be playing KILLZONE 2. What about you?

[slave2Dcontroller]

The Reviews, The Hype, The Hate, The Love, The Jealousy, The Defending. All indicators that the wait is coming to a head. The smoke is clearing and the release of KZ2 is rapidly approaching and I couldnt be more happier.
.
I would really rather be playing the game opposed to be here reading all these KZ2 realated articles and reviews. I dont know if KZ2 need to be a 10 nor does it needs to be a Halo killer. It needs to impress PS3 owners and potential buyers.

You want 10's? You have to pay these (most)douche bag publications big doe to get that perfect score.

You want a Halo Killer, you say? Spend 60 plus million dollars advertising on Chip Bags, Mountain Dew, 7 Eleven Slurpee cups and TV spots.

Halos' success is due mostlty to MASS markerting that people ate up. Thats not to say that it wouldnt be popular without this but it wouldnt be as huge as it is.

IMO GeOW should be MS's Pet franchise instead of being second to HALO but I dont own MS so whatever.

My point is we should be looking forward to playing KZ2 instead of arguing and defending these scores and opinions. The game has the ability to shut everyone up on its own. Remember Guerilla could neveeeer reach that target render? What Happened? They surpassed it?! Damn right!

People haaaaaaaaaaaaate being wrong and people hate what they dont have. Well they were wrong and if you DONT have a PS3 and want this game but tell yourself its garbage because you dont have one, thats your problem. If you really just dont like the game, thats your problem.

For those of us who own PS3's and plan on buying KZ2; LET US REJOICE! and dont lets these douche bags opinions piss on our parade!

CHURCH

[ChaoticWarfare]

See you in Helagan.. but ull never see me because im the most elite sniper ever! Plus wow ur comment is amazing, thats gona shut some haters. Your comments it self should be a article.

[slave2Dcontroller]

Add me son! slave2Dcontroler(With 1 L bc of character limitations)

[ChaoticWarfare]

a 9.0 is a great score and so what if ign gave R2 a better score, wtf R2 is a ps3 exclusive aswell so wtf is all this whining about... its gona be a f'ing awesome game... the only review that should matter is your own.

[collin1986]

Clearly we all know killzone 2 is being nit picked to death,at first it was killzone 2 could never meet its target render, then it was killzone 2 gameplay wouldnt live up to the graphics,now gg proved them wrong, and authors are talking about flame throwers and rez beams, we all know these authors will be playing killzone 2 behind closed doors

[Sasanova]

the guy said having the weapons is a bad thing. he never mentioned wanting other weapons before and now kz2 is out, he wants a brand new gun that shoots energy beams and sounds like fkin toys but do the same shi which is kill people... then talks about the res beam lololol what a fail jesus

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It's just too realistic and too intense.

If Guerrilla can get it down to Viva Pinaita status...then, they'll have something!

[keshk]

First of all, its articles like these we should really niglet, the only reason i am commenting here is bec i saw that already a 115 people commented on that article. Second these scores arent bad and i didnt expect any perfect scores i mean not 10s all around but its pretty close to that.
Why do u even care? u already bought the game anyway..u already have seen alot gameplay footage... even before the reviews hit..sites have been posting articles hinting that game is awesome but not flawless....isnt that enough and who cares if it didnt score higher than R2, both are ps3 exclusives lol ... i mean get a grip its not like its scoring a 5 or a 6,,,,they already said it lives up to the hype in everyway .,,so chill.
oh that guy complained about no installs ... am speechless lol

[badkolo]

some reasons are valid, while it looks spectacular they said it does nothing new.

but that doesnt change anything, ill be playing this bad boy very very soon.

As long as the game delivers fun and a great olnine then theres nothing to complain about, stop acting like children becuase it score lower then gears 2 or lower then resistance, we know why that happened.

[zainkool]

Cod4 didn't have co-op and scored better. About install, sites complain when there is an install and they complain when there isn't a install, make up your god damn mind.

[Vandan]

lol 95 % on metacritic in this dude sayin it aint scoring well ....... Dude stop smokin those things....

[ultimolu]

Good God...why was this approved?

Crap journalism FTW!

[Dunta22]

i do get what this guy is saying. The rez beam and the flamethrower could have been polished alot more, and I am kind of mad that there is no coop or splitscreen. But other than that it is a beautiful game!

[Ziriux]

Sweet the story is doing hot. You guys reported all you wanted to but looks like 360 fanboys came through.

[Product]

Actually the scores if you like this game shouldnt matter.......i welcome more realistic review scores.
Perfect 10's on games are ridiculous seeing as how no game is perfect.

Every game a year ago was getting perfect 10's and i for one was scratching my head as to why.This score is more then fair and hopefully reviewers will start doing this in the future.

[Unicron]

Are people really upset that the game is scoring above 9 pretty much everywhere?

Why does ANYONE care about ARBITRARY numbers AT ALL? Read the reviews! They point out the pros and cons, just like any other game. Don't get sucked into the media BS of comparing scores, because frankly, it's stupid.

[etownone]

I would have thought every review would have at least gave it perfect scores for graphics.... especially after the YEARS of hype about how amazing it's going to look.

Don't get me wrong fellas, from what i see in the pics and videos, it does look effin-amazing... but if it's not getting 10's for graphics, then something must be off.

by the way... GEARS 2 received plenty of 10's for graphics :)

[Unicron]

OH I C WUT U DID THAR!

And MGS4 won more "Best Visuals of 2008" awards than Gears 2. Just FYI of course. It also raked in a few GOTY awards... and best sound... best story...

;-)

[etownone]

haha....

Your right, I thought Gears had better graphics than MGS4 but according to the many awards MGS4 won for best graphics, i was proven wrong....

but still doesn't explain why KZ2 isn't getting 10's for visuals... just as Gear 2 AND MGS4 did ;)

[Rhythmattic]

Actually, Maybe its gaming journalism denouncing its previous scores. From here on out, we will know the truth.

Possibly because the bar has been raised, The journalist gaming communty reset 1/1/09.

To many 10's Last few years.

Just a thought.

[rexor0717]

I haven't seen one yet. :/

[Ldubbz]

You have to actually assuage fanboy rage that their beloved game didnt get all around 10's? Mind you THIS GAME ISNT OUT YET! This is too funny...

[CobraKai]

What are they expecting, every reviewer giving this game a 12 outta 10. Realistically, anything 9 and above is a good score. If Killzone got a 7 outta 10 then maybe it would be disappointing. (Still prolly be a good game tho).

[BMS84]

Especially if there are a couple bad sides in the game .. I mean voice acting , framedrops.. that means if that wasn't the case all the reviewers would given it a 10..

Btw GUERILLIA is working on a co - op patch... some reviewers should get more info about a game before they review it ...

[Theoneneo81]

didn't Game pro gave this 100/100?

[karlostomy]

The whole SDF army reported this article.

I am glad it got approved. There certainly were some valid concerns in there.

[N2NOther]

Oh Christ...Please leave the conspiracy theories out of this. Why are there so many people upset about such a high score? Every reviewer has different opinions about different games...It happens...Personally I find anything about an 8 to be an absolute must-buy so the fact that this is scoring 9's is friggin' fantastic. Can't anyone just be happy about that? Wow, what a bunch of irrational babies.

[likedamaster]

Over and over on top of these legitimate opinions on how the game sucks I can't help but notice over and over how the game's look is so bland, blurry and faded. Pisses me off how they tout this game as "#1" in graphics and yet can't display true clear environments and characters. Enjoy your game ps3ers, it seems to be the best shooter on that console right now.

[NegativeCreep427]

But since you don't, you are less than optimistic about it!!!

[SeTTriP]

for the simple fact that it's a BUYERS GUIDE.look at it this way.you see a advertisement for a game,it's the best CG you've every seen,your thinking,man that s**t looks hot i'm going to buy that.get the game home and its crap minus that awesome CG,this happens to you two or three times,so you get a review magazine,and it tells you the pro and cons of a game.you buy one of the games the magazine highly recommends,and love it.now you trust that magazine with your hard earned money.now with that trust a game magazine can sway you from buying a game (because you trust there so called opinions).and thats why reviews are more then opinions,because the magazine is literately saying to it's consumer,trust us we know what we're talking about,i'm a professional and my "opinions"are highly valued in the gaming community.now say one of the games they reviewed was a product of bias.they just took a crap all over your trust.you just want a great gaming experience,but his/her bias lead you to miss out on a great experience.gaming journalist are far from the realm of opinions,why the f**k would i BUY someone's opinion,that sounds stupid,buying a f**king opinion when i can forum my own.what i'm buying is wisdom,the wisdom to buy good games and stay away from crappy ass games.i don't want your f**king opinion,i want facts on why i should or shouldn't buy.this is there profession,it's just like saying i'm going to invest my life saving's on a brought opinion wither then,hiring a broker who knows what the hell he/she is talking about.come on ppl this is common since.that opinion s**t is just a back door for journalist.so when there bias get in the way they can play the opinion card bullshit.

[Unicron]

No, a review is an opinion. You whining that it isn't does not make it so.

[N2NOther]

The only facts are that it's a game, it's a first person shooter, it's by Guerilla games, and it's on a bluray. Everything regarding it's quality IS, not only in fact, but by definition, an OPINION.

[dash--]

Wow 1st they complain about installs now they want them.

[SageFrancis]

i know. damned if you do damned if you dont

[SageFrancis]

well i own a ps3 and killzone has been on my no1. priority list since i saw the e3 trailer.

but unfortunately, it seems like most ps3 owners are going to raise hell on any review that doesnt give it a 10, and xbox owners are going to say its a flop every time it gets less than a 10.

Whatever, the game looks awesome, I'll be buying it anyway, and to be honest, my opinion of the game is all that matters to me. Jst like any other game. The games I play arent based on what other people think of it, because everyones opinion is different

[GUNKILLA]

it has got 4 perfect score . 2 9.4s and .1 9.0 . and gametrailers hasent done there revew yet so whats the problem .. who ever wrote this article is a 360 fanboy trying to pull down the ps3 and they all ways round the scores up to 10/10

[Re-versed]

WHAT A CRAP ARTICLE!!!
these guys are stupid...They judge the game as the other 9.5 and 9.4 games are flawless!!!Lets remind gears of war online for example!No one cared back them...Pure hypocrisy!

[Solotov]

LOL...can't believe some thought Killzone 2 would get a perfect 10. Graphics can only do so much...

[hack]

Microsoft gave a 1000$ to the reviewers! shut the hell up now i have both system and no one argue that Halo 3 was a great game.

[shawnsl65]

i preordered mine so.. eh. Gotta agree with the 2d medic revival gun thingy. it looked WAAAY better in beta than it does in the review version. The whole KZ2 section in the PSN forum wants the beta version of this gun/ray back. Hope seb and the dev team changes their mind.

[Gobuz]

I'm lost for words, really. They have sunk to new lows with this piece of crap article.

[Gobuz]

Amazing, those bots are pretty clever.

[EverydayGuy]

Sony pump out so many top notch game that it feels like, these game sites have a different grading score made only for Sony. Maybe they are using next gen grading score for Sony and last gen grading score for the rest.

[animalia85]

the reason call of duty 4 was not criticized for lack of co op was because it would not have made it that much better. Killzone 2 seems better to play with a friend in single player than call of duty 4.

[Ethreon]

KZ2 is now a letdown 'cos it got such low scores, wtg.

[PS3istheshit]

how about "who gives a f**k about ratings and reviews"
doesnt it really matter to the person whos playing it
im gonna write a review about it after i beat it and i really think this is gonna replace cod4 online
i dont c how it isnt
im not being biased but sumthing in my head tells me the maps r gonna b ridiculously fun
but thats just me
so until then im gonna be enjoying the demo
man im so hyped
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xg-ei8ht]

Crazywhitie

Maybe get a PS3 first then we'll see you online.

Next in fanboy news.

Reviewers nitpick every PS3 game to pieces. DING DING DING.

I got no problem a reviewer not liking certain things in a game, but does it spoil the game? Does the game entertain you, if so how much.

I'll put it another way, On pure entertainment value and enjoying myself, I'd give Uncharted a 9.6

On pure enjoyment and total fun i'd give Motorstorm PR a 9.8.

But i'll swing this the true fanboy way.

GEARS OF WAR

Graphics are good, Some low rez textures, nice normal mapping and depth of field.

Sound - Sounds are also good, But nothing new.

Weapons - Standard types of weapons, with a few varied changes, i/e chainsaw and granades with a chain attached(and i know that wouldn't work well at all in real terms)

Gameplay, Some nice characters thrown in and some big bosses work well.

Now the point i'm making, is that for all the little bits of rubbish, it does not affect the overall game. You still enjoy it for what it is, regardless of the failings. strangly on 360 they still enjoy high scores no matter what. And that my friends is bias.

But Most reviews, alot of the time, try and knock a ps3 game down for odd little things, that have no relevance to the game whatsoever.

Come Killzone 2 day. I'll be enjoying this game, showing it off and having a good time.

Because i really do have a PS3.

[ar]

"There are multiple times when the game has slowdown or has to spend time loading."
That's funny. Gamereactor Sweden said this: "Miljöerna är stora, laddningstiderna korta och framförallt ruskigt få, och skärmuppdateringen helt perfekt." (The environments are large, the loading times are short and above all extremely few and the framerate is totally perfect)
Now which one should I believe?

[Jaybles]

what is the world coming too?
I miss the days without the internet, just the occasional magazine reviews.

Stupid fanboys fighting over a score which is extremely good.

[dukegodtezza]

It's really important at this stage in the review to call out a few things that hold Killzone 2 back from being a rapturous gameplay delight, and therefore a near-perfect experience. PlayStation fanboys out there: please brace yourself, because this is going to hurt a little bit. Killzone 2 never comes as close to being as innovative as it is striking to look at. There are some incredible water cooler moments in there – don't get us wrong - but the final level of the game deflates the experience somewhat and really underlines how little the game pushes the boundaries of shooters. After nine fairly solid stages that, at worst, toe the FPS line to a tee, the tenth and final stage builds and builds and builds... only to soil itself at the finish line like an over-exhausted marathon runner. Yes, you get across the line – but there isn't a whole lot of dignity or fanfare when you do.

We can't spoil this for you [you'd publicly disembowel me, and I'd deserve it --Patch] but the end foe is cheap, nasty and boring. There. We said it. Considering how far you come from the start of the game and what you go through to get to that point, the last enemy you encounter is a massive disappointment. This foe's techniques revolve around teleportation and one-hit-kills that will try your patience and make you hope, pray, beg for something more or someone else at tousle with.

You won't get it.

What you do get is a four minute cutscene comprising prosaic, quip-filled silliness and a baffling and ambiguous cliffhanger ending (or is it?).

(It is.)

Killzone 2 flirts with moments of one-man-army tension and all-out battlefield mayhem. The pace, however, rarely relents.
Actually, the silly dialogue and Hollywood-lite posturing leads us to the next point. The characters, their personalities and reactions in given situations, sit dangerously close to the archetypal Gears of War squad members. You have your 'Cole Train' – in Killzone 2, he's Rico, an abrasive African American who clearly learned his interpersonal skills in the mean streets of future-South Central; you have your Marcus Fenix – in his place, you have Sev, the leader of Killzone 2's Alpha Squad, sporting a shaved of head and a heart full of secret turmoil. Of course, calling out Killzone 2 on formulaic characters is like saying 'that porn star's boobs look fake' - It comes with the territory and it's all part and parcel of the 'ooh-rah' , guts-and-glory, 'do it for America' attitude that many of these games share. It's just that Killzone 2 is the latest of these, and more importantly, it really plays too closely to Gears' formula – almost like a narrative equation at times. You'll pick who dies, how people respond accordingly and even the big plot twist well before it happens. If you don't give two shakes about stories in your shooters, then feel free to disregard this whole point. But for everyone else, this isn't a particularly compelling story full of characters that you connect with on any deeper level, and that ultimately impacts the cinematic quality of the storytelling.

[Gobuz]

What a dum article, KZ2 has some fantastic scores. dum asses

http://www.grapheine.com/bo...

[rTR-Pioneer]

"why isn't it getting higher?"
the title makes it sound as though it has been getting 7s, but the fact is when a game is getting mid 9s it is kind of hard to get anymore.

[SeTTriP]

so if there just opinions why are you looking at them.why do you feel the need to see what other people think about a product your interested in.why not just buy it and judge for yourself.or ask your self why,the minute(so called credible) review sites put up positive reviews of kz2,preoder's went thru the roof at amazon.the proof is in the putting.don't just disagree for the sake of disagreeing.thats childish.you gave nothing substantial to support why you disagree with my rant.i don't pay for opinion,i can get those for free(i just got your opinion at no cost).i pay for facts.you troll review sites because you care what other people think,me personally i don't care about what console does what.i have both,the 360(gamer tag,SeTTriP) and ps3(gamer tag,xxSeTTriPxx).i rarely troll review sites(killzone being the exception).just to see how ppl will fling s**t at a game for being great when everybody doubted it,to see fanboys hate because there console of choice can't live up to this new standard.to see GG with all there hard work,in trying to make a ture next gen experience for us (the gamers) get there dew.to see how bias ungrateful f**ks will stick to there opinions in the face of greatness.next time keep your half baked opinion for someone without sense,because,they gets no airplay here.you my friend,like so many others just got killZOWNED.thanks,come again.

[Daz]

the game has problems lets face it, peopel cant handle it.

I still be getting it, so you lot keep on over 9.0 and higher scores.

9.0 and higher is bad right? LOL

9.0 and under is much better. LOL

[chrisjc]

The article poster likes the game, and thinks it deserves a high mark. He's just noting why it might not get a perfect 10. I don't get all the commotion.

There have been 20 "why Resident Evil 5 won't be good" articles just based off a demo. Killzone 2 has a beta.

[ozzie guy]

no split screen.no coop. no deathmatch no radars(good news there)
its there any news on voice chat is it squad based
or your hole team???

[X_GAMER_X]

if you get a perfect score they say no game deserves 10 / 10 (LBP and MGS4) if you get a 95 (metacritic on all) and thats wrong?? get a hobby..

[xg-ei8ht]

Someone tell me the ending of gears of war, Because i've totally forgot.

[niewytrzymam]

Oh i see, this game is crap. I wont buy killzone2. What a bullshit with this 9/10 game is about to bring shine to ps3, what other game did this? Maybe ms pays 4 bad rewius.

[maverick1191]

wow wheres mart or PP they always bash a KZ2 article

[divideby0]

what a bunch of weenie gripes.....nothing that would bring down a score

[Thoreau]

the game is only a letdown if you don't own a ps3. i bought resistance 2 and played gears2 for as long as i could tolerate it. both of those games were clear 8.5s, but ign gave them both fanboy scores. sick of the hypocrisy, sick of the fanboyism, sick of the lack of skillful journalism. if killzone 2 was any less spectacular, the game would have scored 8s. this media is childish. granted i have not played killzone 2, ign means to tell me GTA 4 was better cause it scored a 10?

[retrofly]

I feel sorry for game developers I can see the reviews of new games now:-

Graphics - 8: Good, but not Killzone 2 good.

;)

[Shane Kim]

I don't understand the weapon argument. Sure it maybe has been done in other games, but the feeling of the weapons are different. Not only that, this is supposed to be a somewhat realistic war with HUMANS and WITHOUT all god damn alien technology. I mean this is like rating CoD4 low because I can't use laser beams too shoot the Iraqi's. The feeling of the game would be completley different if the weapons were laser guns, magma guns and pulse rifles. It's a completely retarded argument. I can only agree with the revive gun. If i was GG I would have replaced it with some syringes instead.

[AliC]

Lets be straight, some of he games that got 10/10 didn't deserve those scores.

Look at GTA4 for example, it was supposed to be the greatest game ever made, and scored top marks across the board, so why does this game have such a negative background now?

Any game that is getting 9/10 9.* is a a good game, you can pick at small details if you want but a good score is a god score, it doesn't need to be 10/10 to be a good game.

[N2NOther]

GTA deserves it's 10. Oh wait, look at that...I just gave an opinion that agreed with another opinion. Weird, huh. YOU don't think it deserved a 10, but I do...What that is, is called "subjectivity". Look it up.

[patrickjw333]

i wasnt expecting a perfect score but with the ign review they gave the graphics a 9.5. thats bullshit this is clearly the best looking console game ever and everyone with a good pair of eyes can see that.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Why it isnt scoring higher? for the love of god its 95% on meta LMAO

[Magic_The_Celt]

And am i the only one who doesnt care for co-op?

the only co-op (online) which has ever really worked imo is left 4 dead

[bsachtjen]

I do not think that installs are a bad thing, i think they are a good thing, if they can make some textures higher res, some loading times faster, less texture pop in, i would be happy with a 3-5 gig install. once this game comes out i wont be playing much else and 5 gigs out of 80 would be worth it, to have the game run perfectly smooth.

[Lingonbak]

Let downs? Are you stupid? It has an avarage score of 9.4

[cryymoar]

but apparently to some reviewers like IGN, Resistance 2 (9.6) is better than Killzone 2 (9.4) and Grand Theft Auto IV has better graphics (10) than Killzone 2 (9.5).
These web sites are either scoring Killzone 2 too heavily just because it's not "Halo" or "COD" or they scored games like Resistance 2 too high.
IGN has lots of inconsistencies, like they said Motorstorm 2 was clearly better in every aspect than the first one, yet they gave it a lower score.

[SOG Hollywood]

Those seem like fantastic scores to me, but that's just me.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I have to admit that the no co-op boggles my mind. But also the loading in between levels is also really weird considering they could do an install and their be none. So while I understand people saying, first loading is bad, now your knocking games without it. If their are sequences where the game slows to load and it could have been a non issue, that is a bad decision.

[Don_Frappucino]

I'd rather have no installs and a minute of slowdown ect throughout the game than a 5 min install at the start. And come on. That bit about the weapons? No one complained about CoDs weapons. No one complained about Gears 2's weapons even though there were every few and just real weapons with slight mods. Oooh a gun with a chainsaw on. If thats all it takes to dazzle gamers these days then what the hell went wrong?

[PS360PCROCKS]

I personally would rather NOT have the slowdown for loading, especially if it can be bypassed by a simple install. COD:MF weapons were modern and you got to use stuff like anti tank missles, .44 caliber sniper rifles and so on, COD:MW had awesome weapons games have never used. As for Gears of war, a lot of those weapons were original and drawn up for that game. I don't really see your point, all they said was that the weapons were standard, not innovative or unique.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Why is killzone 2 lets down? Why its getting lower scores? Well...first off because reviews are opinions not hard facts ...so no much you can ever do about someone thinking one game is better than another. Secondly....9's and above is hardly a "let down".

No need to read this article with that kind of title. Pass.... no website hits for you my mis-informned journalist.

[Don_Frappucino]

Wait Wait Wait. Amazon have reported killzone pre orders went up 1900%, and kz2 isn't scoring high enough? IGN isn't excatly an amazing website either (i personally dislike as do ALL of the people i know that game) They should have one reviewer review each genre, at least then we wouldn't gbe getting the bi-polar reviews currently being published

[Gun_Senshi]

How does a fanboy like you has so muchg bubbles? let me help you.

Prevous GG Efforts :

http://www.gametrailers.com...
http://psp.kombo.com/articl...
http://www.deeko.com/psp/re...
http://www.gamechronicles.c...
http://www.worthplaying.com...
http://psp.ign.com/articles...

KILLZONE: Liberation, is probably one of the top PSP Games.

Once a great man said, you learn more from your failures then from your success.

[yojoe26]

if people just wouldn't read dumb articles like this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the scores given to Killzone 2 so far. The only one in question being the moronic Maxim score, but who cares about Maxim's opinion? I haven't even read this article and don't plan to. I just wish nobody would read these stupid things and get so worked up about it. If Killzone 2 were receiving below eights THEN I would be worried. I have no doubt in my mind that this game will still own EVERY console shooter up to this point. That's including the one's that received so-called "higher" scores.

P.S Just a thought-provoking question: How many of your favorite games of all time actually got all tens? Think about it. I thought about my own personal favorites and only about three of my top ten favorite games of all time got perfect scores in more than one publication. My personal favorite games of the last two years have been Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Metal Gear 4, and LittleBigPlanet. Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, and Warhawk didn't score above eights if I'm remembering correctly. So does it really matter??

PSN: Frodo25

[Yomiro]

It is up to us now to play the game and decide if the end was bad or not or if 9 or 10 is the score Killzone 2 deserve.

[yojoe26]

The people who review these games do nothing but play video games EVERY day of their lives. It's their living. Imagine if that was all you did every day. You would reach a certain point when little, itty-bitty things drive you crazy. Personally, I am a jazz and classical pianist for a living. I play piano, listen to music, and do nothing but music-related things for eight or more hours just about every day of my life. So if I go hear a concert, my standard is set really high because music is my life. I have studied it, practiced hard at it, and learned it well, so naturally I don't want to go hear some garage band who may sound great to the average listener, but my ears are going to catch things that the average listener's ears won't. It's the same concept. These guys play almost EVERY game that hits the market. It is going to get old to them alot quicker than it will to the average gamer.

[dooge]

Just play the game and decide for yourself.
Bunch of girls.

[Naked Snake]

This is just clutching at straws.

[cmayes]

"would of noticed... a few of it’s problem"

Sometimes I think some people deliberately use bad grammar as they are actually trolling. Anyone else think so? The grammar here is just shockingly appalling. So there you go, IHBT.

[Rhezin]

"most of us exxpected the game would get a 7." WHAT ARE F!CKING KIDDING ME!? Graphics attract the majority of players these days, and K2 has THE best. You've hated this game long enough so just stfu and just deal with the fact that its better than anything on your sh!t system. "Seems like you can't enjoy this game without sh!tting on another great game." WOW coming from you of all people!!! THAT RIGHT THERE IS AN XBOTS CODE! They can't be happy with a great game that's on their system, no they have to criticize the other version and thoroughly explain why their 360 version is better. NO "Giantcraps" I'm sorry but that was the MOST hypocritic statement you have said...EVER. SHUT THE F!CK UP YOU DAMN RETARD.

[Chopkilla]

i don't really know much about killzone.. i played the first one with my buddies a long time ago, and all i see on n4g is all about it. seems that this game is by far the best graphical game yet. i haven't bought a game in a while. and was thinking about getting this one. i can't tell if i should buy it becaue of hype. or it's just gonna be a really kick ass game. what you guys think?

[MADPIRAHNA]

1. So they decided to wait until KZ2 to take off for "having the same old guns"? I guess GG should have used slingshots.

2. NO INSTALL. Wasnt Sony getting bashed to death for having "mandatory installs"? WTF

3. Co-op. I would have liked to see it as well.

Sounds like the haters are going to try and pick this one to death. Good luck, even teh FUD articles cant stop this steamroller.

[resistance022]

9 is freakin awesome

[SixAmpFuze]

wowowowow people need to chill out. These scores mean absolutely nothing.Also its not like they gave it s 4.5 they gave it a 9 9.4 thats awesome. The game isnt perfect and it has some problems just like every other game ever made,this is just pathetic how people are reacting

[doctorstrange]

http://www.amazon.ca/Sony-C...
now thats cool, why dont they sell it elsewhere and why is it so cheap?

anyway on topic:
i respect IGN for their score but they havent really explained why it is not higher which is not right

[eminent]

Congrats, you pushed me to reporting my first story!

..eminent..

[Hot_tea]

I thought any game with a 9 or more is a great game?
ROFL! Do people really care about what a reviewer says? Or what nerdcitic score it has overall? You know, I think 98% of gaming public do not read Metanerd before buying a game.

Jesus 9 or more used to be a great game.
I do find it a little strange that R2 scored higher though, I thought R2 was kinda crap. But hey, remember this. Some of the big websites gave Def Jam Icon the same score as VF5! Any fighting game fan will tell you in any language,
that that is 4$$ backwards.

[Moe_OwnZ]

some of whats been stated above is just a load of balls...their just excuses to try to dot the game down...they just dont want to accept the fact that its a new evolution/dominator of every FPS shooter out there

BUT!!..the thing the really pisses me of is that their reducing the score by an unfair amount simply because of minor issue that can EASILY be fixed.... LIKE IF THIS GAME WAS ON XBOX I'D SAY IT WOULD GET A PERFECT REVIEW... so you guys out there that are curious about all this BU*$S&$T... dont mind what they say BUY IT AND TRUST ME YOU WILL BE SATISFIED!!!!...coz im utterly desperate to get my hands on it... (this game gives erections sometimes) :L:L:L...lol I JOKE

[SolidSnake93]

This is all I have to say: http://www.metacritic.com/g... =)

[SKullDugger]

This game is gonna rock and it has plenty of new ideas and look at RE5 same old control and set-up and it will sell and get great reviews. The hate for KZ2 is because its on a PS3.

[proArchy]

OH NOES KILZONEZ AM NOT PURFIKT!

retarded.

Weapons: Killzone is not supposed to be some hyper-sci-fi-super-future shooter with laser beams and plasma rifles. It is a modern future setting akin to Blade Runner. If they work well and they don't sound like breaking a pencil or slapping wet steak then I say: Lame excuse.

Flamethrower: I have nothing to say, I really have no idea I was shunned from the beta :(

Rez Beam: Really? I think I get the effect they were going for, and yeah it turned out a little out of place, but really, you're going to subtract points for that: Lame excuse.

The Ending: Disappointing endings in video games are as old as video games. Halo 3's ending was awful in a way that makes my teeth ache, it didn't lose any points over it. Lame excuse.

Voice acting: I guess I can't argue with that. If the gameplay's fun you can usually ignore it or at least make fun of it though. I got through Battlefield:BC because Redford sounds like Wesley Willis EVERY time he talks.

No Install: I guess its damned if you do, damned if you don't time again.

No Co-op: You can't take points away for something that was NEVER included in the game or even claimed to be. Lame

I'll venture the real reason we're not seeing across the board 10's thrown at this game is because reviewers are realizing they've been throwing 10's around WAYYY too much. Giving them out to games that don't push any limits, or have glaring or even game breaking flaws is a good way to get your readers to tear your credibility to shreds. Hype machines demand 10's, and reviewers have had that pressure laid down on them more and more recently. Still, its a pretty convenient time to grow a pair of uh...scruples.

All that said, there is NOTHING WRONG with the scores K2's been receiving. If the lowest is a 90, that means this game is freaking outstanding, no buts about it. When you see random 80's pop up ignore them like I try to ignore the 10's.

[Crueltylizer]

Luckily this game is so popular around not only PS3 gamers but also multigamers so the scores will not matter that much for a game like this, when it comes to sales and gaming experience.

[demolitionX]

and you know what guys? if KZ2 sold 5 million first week, they will say" why it didn't sell 10M?"

STUPID media!!!!????

[force07]

Microsoft fanboys

[JeepGamer]

Because the gaming media currently has an anti-PS3 bias and they look for excuses to hate anything that is an exclusive.

[dkgshiz]

Is this supposed to be a joke? A 9 is supposed to be bad?! WOW! It just stuns me that people think if the game didn't receive a perfect 10, its garbage. Jesus, some people are just to negative these days. What do you expect a perfect game? Nothing deserves a 10 if you ask me.

[dkgshiz]

I just cant understand these retard articles sometimes.

[Colieo_87]

gezzz... the scores mean nothing just wait and play the game.. i doesnt bother me that some of thes sites give it the scores it does, we the gamers will make our juggument when its due. It going to be a great game quit worrying ppl im looking forward for some duck and cover shooter.. and if it was any compairision i would love it if they made it 40player or even better 60player slayer matchs with no lag the way R2 is.. wouldnt that be great in Kz2 but im fine with the 32player matchs 16v16 great.. game on folks

[flyingbanana]

I have always thought that in my scale 100&99 are reserved for my own game, 98&97 for creation of god, and rest is available for the normal people. So in my scale 95 is nearly perfect.. :D

I don't like mandatory install but I prefer it over frame-drops any day, so I think it's justified complain.

And because co-op is pretty much standard nowadays(unlike days when HL2 came out) so I think it's bit disappointing not to have it.

I'm getting it day one...can't wait

[Funky Town_TX]

stop crying already. Who cares if it gets a 0/10, play the game if you want. So many people want others to justify their purchase. KZ2 is the first and only game that I want for the PS3 therefore it is my system seller. I have watched about 1 hour of gameplay video and this is all I need. Screw the reviews. If my money is right (layoffs at work today) when this drops then PS3 and KZ2 for me.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I predict lower scores to come.

[lord_monkey]

i think people got spoiled after seeing GTA IV and MGS 4 get perfect scores and that anything lower is a "FAIL"
9.4 is very good and BTW halo 3 didnt get a perfect score average either nor COD 4.
enjoy the game and and if any one says " it didn't get a 10 .. meh" is a idiots