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Nintendo Removes Mention Of Switch 2 Supporting VRR In Docked Mode On A TV

Nintendo appears to have gone back on its prior claim regarding the Switch 2 supporting Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) in docked mode on a TV.

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1nsomniac34d ago

Has anyone else brought this up? Seems like an odd thing to do but there’s obviously a very specific reason for it. Would like to hear from Nintendo directly before the console releases as people including myself have pre-orders that have been placed due to the official information we were given at the time.

Neonridr34d ago

as it's said in the article, maybe it's not ready for docked mode and will be added with a firmware update at a later time.

Considering the device itself supports it, and the dock is ultimately an HDMI passthrough at the end of the day, it doesn't make sense why VRR wouldn't be supported while in docked mode (on TVs that support it).

badz14932d ago

Most VRR set are supported through HDMI 2.1 standard. Has Nintendo verified the HDMI version for Switch 2? Is it 2.0 or 2.1?

1nsomniac32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

It's been verified by Digital Foundry as being HDMI 2.0. That's also why it's limited to 4k 60hz and not 120hz.

Tacoboto33d ago

Sony only supports VRR through HDMI 2.1 on PS5, but HDMI 2.0 (supporting 1440p120hz) on PS5 does not support VRR. On Xbox, it does.

If the Switch 2 Dock doesn't enable HDMI 2.1 output, yeah maybe it can get a firmware update down the line, but if VRR is indeed not supported through the dock, Nintendo went the lesser-effort route of Sony instead of the more robust support Xbox has.

Or maybe this is also a limitation of the Switch 2 having built-in G-Sync support and they are reluctant to promote the AMD FreeSync for VRR that's used in many TVs

Loktai33d ago

"Robust support" - Wheres that support when it comes to games?

Tacoboto33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Irrelevant and ridiculous comment but I'll bite.

Since December Xbox has released Indiana Jones, Avowed, South of Midnight, is a weekend away until the Oblivion Remastered drop, and is less than a month until Doom releases. Get over this spammy trolling

Edit - and can't forget the Forza Horizon PS5 port. Great games across multiple genres and platforms. To keep it on topic of Switch 2, hopefully that platform will be able to get some of these too later this year.

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

If I had to guess Nintendo is horrible at explaining complicated tech and people may think their tv can do vrr because it's the switch 2 and that does vrr but not realise the tv has to be compatible.

It's not a problem for people who understand it but for the every day person they may not get it that's all I could think of as to why because there shouldn't be a technical limitation at play here unless they cheaper out on the HDMI port of the new dock

Or it's just firmware related the ps5 didn't get vrr at launch that came later

badz14932d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Compatibility is one thing, but is the feature supported through HDMI is the real question. Portable mode might be played on the 120Hz VRR screen but this screen is 1080p and 1080p120Hz can be achieved with HDMI 1.4b but at the very least we knew the Switch 2 supports 4K output so HDMI 2.0 is the minimum. BUT In dock mode, the system might be limited to HDMI 2.0 with no VRR and up to 4K60Hz only. It's all speculation right now.

1nsomniac32d ago

@ProfChaos, that's a very fair point and also a very Nintendo thing to do, so you could be right.

Mike6933d ago

Well Nintendo must and should come clean about Vrr in dock mode for Switch 2.Its something that i and other people that order the System were expecting.I really think comunication on Switch 2 has been very bad.

ZycoFox32d ago

You'll be lucky getting much if anything out of them, it wasn't long ago that someone at Nintendo was saying they didn't want the public complaining about tech specs or something.

Profchaos32d ago

I think iwata talked about how much game development costs would rise and cause problems for the industry I don't remember any comments about people complaining about tech many Nintendo staffers often liked funding new ways to use old tech like the Gameboy or Wii

OpenGL32d ago

It took the PS5 years to actually get VRR support so maybe this will with a firmware update in the future.

fsfsxii32d ago

What a shitshow of a console. Another wiiu incoming.

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Nintendo Reportedly Partners With Samsung To Make Over 20M Switch 2 Units, OLED Refresh May Follow

Nintendo has reportedly partnered with Samsung to manufacture over 20 million Switch 2 units, and an OLED version of the console may follow.

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DivineHand1258h ago

"OLED refresh may follow"

Correction, the OLED refresh will follow.

HyperMoused7h ago

they have gone mobile, mid refresh and money grubbing crap.

Zeldafan647h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I play 99% in docked mode but whatever makes you feel better.

1nsomniac7h ago

?? Who plays the Switch in docked mode? .. and why the hell would you!?

As a handheld it’s a great system. As a docked console, it’s literally scraping the bottom of the barrel and it only just even achieves that.

northpaws6h ago

@1nsomniac

Millions of people play their Switch in docked mode.

crazyCoconuts6h ago

I bet it plays Smash pretty good in docked mode. I hear Smash Bros performs best on switch

andy855h ago

Plenty. I go round my friends and we play smash bros on the TV. How else would we play together with only 1 switch?

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Agree I prefer docked mode to but I'll play portable when traveling for work one of the biggest selling points for me is basically what was shown in the original switch trailer guy leaves his house playing gets on a plane playing goes to a hotel room still playing

repsahj3h ago

@1nsomniac
Party play is best played on docked mode like smash bros and mario party. Zzzz.

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Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Mobile gaming has always been the biggest seller for Nintendo. They went mobile in 89 this isn't a new thing

It's why the low selling GameCube or Wii U didn't actually hurt them all that much

andy857h ago

"May". That's like saying the sun may rise tomorrow. They've done it so in 2 years people will want a new prettier device.

northpaws6h ago

I wouldn't say an OLED screen is a must, the Switch 2 screens seems to be pretty good, 120Hz, HDR, VRR, it is more than enough.

neutralgamer19923h ago

not a must but we all know OLED will follow (not saying it's wrong just part of mid gen refresh)

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Nintendo finally explains what free upgrades do for Switch games on Switch 2

All 12 games are getting different upgrades. Some get full visual and frame rate enhancements, while others get GameShare support only.

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darthv7212h ago

hmm... those improvements for the zelda games is kinda weak. I was expecting improved frame rate, or at the very least more stable. Sad there is nothing for Paper Mario, that one could use a 60fps mode like the original GC version.

ocelot0710h ago

Both Zelda games both run at 1440p and 60fps now. On the switch they both play at 30fps.

--Onilink--10h ago

The main issue will be if they don’t remove the double buffer vsync in them.

Yes, they are technically already 60fps capped, but that vsync setup means even a single dropped frame below 60 sends it to 30fps.

Now if they are also increasing the resolution and visuals in the game, unless there is a pretty significant overhead, which is still likely but not fully understood due to the unknowns of the “emulation” setup, if the 1% lows in the game still drop it every now and then anywhere below 60, they will still end up having massive stuttering drops from 60 to 30fps.

Tacoboto7h ago

The two Zeldas - EoW and LA - already run with a 60fps cap. I would hope they're not mentioning improved frame rate because it's just assumed that the Switch 2 will smooth out the drops.

Whereas the specific callouts for Bowser's Fury and Pokémon indicate a raise from 30fps to 60fps.

jznrpg11h ago

Disappointing. Not many games with not much in upgrades.

Tacoboto7h ago

So... They're not gonna do anything with that Xenoblade Chronicles X 60fps mode, huh?

CDbiggen7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

12 is a bit weak. The whole switch library is in need of a boost. Exclusives like the Xenoblades and Astral Chain would be great to see get a free update. Initially surprised Mario Wonder wasn't on the list, but I imagine they have a paid upgrade planned for that one.