Nintendo at E3 09 - It can't get much worse

CGN Writes...

"After last years Nintendo E3 Conference, I tried to convince my self that it really wasn't the worst conference in the world. But in the end, I ended up only agreeing with everyone else in the world. Minus a quick reference to Call of Duty: World at War, and the announcement of GTA: China Town Wars, there was almost absolutely nothing that catered to the hardcore audience. Now that Nintendo has thrown out all the casual talk in last years E3, this years E3 just can not get any worse."

[Product]

this year expect either a Kid Icarus and Pilotwings(both rumored to be in development) in the latter half of the year.......Punchout and Sin and Punishment 2 are coming before this though.Aswell as wiisports resort which gives you motion +

The real story is the third party support though which i hope becomes a regular thing at Nintendo seeing as how the first half of the year shows good signs of third party games from The Conduit and Madworld to House of the Dead and alot of rpg's.

Screw E3 though the GDC this march better shed light on release dates for alot of stuff.

[gaffyh]

Don't get your hopes up, but they said that they are working on a new Zelda, hopefully we'll see that. If they announce ANOTHER peripheral...EPIC FAIL.

[Lifendz]

I won't even watch. I'll watch Sony and MS because they actually make games for a gamer like me. Nintendo, I love Smash Bros but other than that I don't see you giving me anything this year. Then again it's not like Nintendo needs gamers like me anymore...sigh.

[kunit22c]

im really getting sick and tired of fanboys bashing Nintendo, especialy 360 fanboys considering Microsoft seen all the cash Nintendo is getting and is trying to go for the casuals, but Nintendo is trying its hardest to make hardcore titles and casual titles and you only see less hardcore is because they take longer to make, and casual games dont take time at all, its the lack of 3rd party support (which seems to be going up) but if Nintendo truely didnt care about core gamers would they make games like: twilight princess,galaxy,corruption,sin and punishment 2, punch out!!, brawl, Mario Kart, Disaster, rumors of eternal darkness 2, and Pit. Fanboys are just to spoiled these days. Also to blame Nintendo for the shovelware is just wrong. They make almost none of the shovelware, its like all 3rd paries that think they are being supportive by doing so but they arnt. Im going to stick with Nintendo because next gen they will HAVE to go for the hardcore because the casuals wont be going to get the next system, so then they will have all this money and will spend it all on the hardcore and they wont go under, dont even try to say sony and microsoft wont because i already see them starting to, they have both layed off many workers (microsoft a few days ago and sony a little while ago) it hasnt effected Nintendo yet, and the PS3 is just bringing Sony down more they loose money for every ps3 they sell, so even if sales on the ps3 went up, it wouldnt really help them. I dont mean to bash them but just say the facts, i actually like Sony and the PS3, but not the 360 there are just so amny problems i just would rather not have to deal with, the true winners of last gen are the people who own a ps3, wii and pc. if you have a 360 and those i guess you still win but not as much because the 360 just slowly burns a hole in your pocket. (360 fanboys dont even try to say that it doesnt because you know it does)
But hey im hoping for any news on Pikmin 3, Kirby Wii, F-zero Wii, Start fox Wii, Pit, TMNT Brawl, Punch Out!!, Sin and Punishment 2, Cursed Mountain, and wii sports resort. And hopefully some people will announce that they are going to pick up some cancelled games and continue them like Winter, Project H.A.M.M.E.R., and B.E.A.S.T. I think may be able to be proud of Nintendo at this next E3 and if not i dont care becaus ethey may be saving it for later just like last year, everyone was bummed about Nintendo's E3 and were bashing it, but then at Tokyo gameshow they had the most announces, so no matter what i tihnk im going to be proud of Nintendo this year with all teh games i listed before and more. Also PS3 seems to be going good for 2009 too. Sorry for such a long comment but its just that other ignorant fanboys make me mad, and sorry 360 fanboys but most of the ignorance comes from you. But its not all of you just most of you. PS3 fanboys dont seem to bother me as much just because they always seem to be more mature. But once again its only most of you not all of you. But yeah PS3 and Wii looking best for 2009 :) and dont get mad im just looking at facts, and that game thats Microsofts answer to LBP sucks sorry but i hope they announce way better stuff at E3 otherwise im gonna feel bad for you 360 fanboys.

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Holy S*** i just realized how long this is. what a waste of time i didnt intend for it to be this long, but hey my longest comment EVER right here :D!

[Tsalagi]

Calm down.

http://i207.photobucket.com...

[CAPT IRISH]

haha that was funny

[kunit22c]

Lol,Tsalagi even though taht was making fun of me i still thought it was pretty funny :)

but everyone disagreeing can you tell me what in my comment you disagree with instead of just disagreeing? unless my comment just made you mad and insecure?

[Danja]

dude ever heard the word "Paragraphs" ??? if so plz to use them next time ur writing a post like that..

and as for ur comment have you ever thought that Nintendo isn't really focusing on pleasing both sides any more but there are more for the casuals ?

How often do they release a game like Metroid Prime or Brawl ???

3rd parties make pretty good games for the Wii..like Z&W , NMH ....now we are getting The Condult , and Madworld which im looking forward to...and hopefully Pikmin3 get released this year..

but Nintendo has gone soft

[Professor PGX]

wait a sec. you're that same loser from Nintendo Worlds who keeps wii bashing, aren't you? And I guess that would make xander Voice of Reason, since he called his self that on th sly. yall think yall slick. i done figured yall out.

[pixelsword]

...it was like watching a train wreck...wrecking a indy 500 race, smashing through a marathon. You couldn't help to watch it although it almost made you cry with how bad their conference was.

[kunit22c]

@ Danja, you probably wont see this because well this is an old post and i forgot to reply to you but whatever here it goes.
I will admit Nintendo has gotten softer and has produced less "hardcore" games than in the past but for some of these fanboys to say they have completely stoped caring for the hardcore is either a lack of knowledge or they are just plain stubborn. Plus i think Nintendo has a fine Line up of first party games for 2009, and they have the best line up over all for me, let alone the biggest line up, sure you could disagree with me by saying they dont have the "best" because well we all dont have the same taste in games but you cant agrue that they dont have the biggest line up because well they do i have a list of 23 games i have to buy this year and that costs a heck of alot of money (1150?) so im going to have to span out and buy them at different times the ones i want most first then wait a little while for the rest (if i didnt have a job now way could i get all of these) i already have $370 something thats 7 games well maybe more because 3 of the games i want are WiiWare, but yeah those games can keep me busy until i have money for the next games comming, hey if im lucky i just MIGHT be able to get all these the first day they come out. (my games are spread out through the year some are soon and some just might come early 2010) I think this is going to be a great year for gamers (Wii and PS3 owners especialy) 360 owners can go ahead and burn a hole in your pocket with all those extras you have to buy, keep breaking headsets and buying new ones, buying new disks because your 360 keeps scratching them, and paying for online. Hey did you 360 owners ever think about how much money your wasting when you could be buying games with that money? hmmm.....? Or save up for a PS3?

[ChickeyCantor]

The way E3 swayed people, the way it made people say that nintendo went all casual.
LOL.

I didnt even care that much for E3, but it was said before, Nintendo will use E3 to reach the "casual" crowd due all the media.

So if they do it again, we will have the same sh/t over allll again xD.

Hope they show little footage of Zelda or something.

[Parapraxis]

Nintendo did go casual.
Yes they have a few traditional "hardcore" games.
But their main focus is on the new people they are bringing in.
And before you ignorantly call me anti-Nintendo or a fanboy, read this.
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[ChickeyCantor]

Para,
I don't think you understand. THEY WERE ALWAYS GOING FOR THE CASUAL CROWD.

some people just don't get it. Do you even know Nintendo's history?
They were always making products for family friendly goals.

Do some of you even realize Miyamoto makes games with the idea his family can play them too?

You guys live in a weird world, claiming things...Lol Nintendo was ALWAYS casual.

Edit:
I don't scream around calling people fanboys, it has no point anyway.

Edit:Edit:
Of course they focuss on those people now, they need to insure they can keep them. Don't tell me they don't make traditional games anymore.

Even MS and Sony want this crowd, but their problem was that they never thought they could get them in like Nintendo did. They have the "core" crowd. But they need this Casual audience too.
Core gamers are not the majority. MS and Sony need both of them.

And loads of "core" gamers are happy with Nintendo's lineup of 2009.

It seems to me Nintendo is having both of them.

[Parapraxis]

Actually I do undertand.
And I do know the history of Nintendo thanks.
My first console was an NES.
Nintendo did always go for the casual crowd, but they balanced that with a strong appeal for more hardcore gamers.
Now the latter has taken a back seat, and with good reason.
Nintendo has never done as well in any generation as they are now, and that is due to tapping into a new more casual market.
It's NOT a knock on Nintendo in any way, it's a widely known fact
Hats off to them really.

[ChickeyCantor]

" Nintendo did always go for the casual crowd, but they balanced that with a strong appeal for more hardcore gamers. "

I would say pure coincidence, Nintendo always made games with the casual people in mind. The way they came out was due the fact they had a different view on "casual" gamers.
Each generation we have a new set of people, and because these changes developers will have to adapt to this knowledge.

Seriously though, people pretend their games are trash now. They still deliver the quality they always have.

[Parapraxis]

"Seriously though, people pretend their games are trash now. They still deliver the quality they always have."
Nintendo, yes, 3rd parties...not so much.

[ChickeyCantor]

You can't say it isn't shaping up =P.
I agree Wii has loads of shovelware on it, but developers had the time to create something awesome.

At least 2009 looks far better.

[Parapraxis]

There are a lot of titles popping up now for the Wii in 2009.
I'm not going to lie, I was worried at first.
But it's good to see that some unique 3rd party titles are on the way.
Enjoy them.
(If you wonder why it interests me, my GF's brother has a Wii, played it all christmas, I need to finish MP3 & Zelda now ! lol)
Peace.

[Product]

well i dont think it will be that casual this year since Nintendo has stated their will be no more Wii(insert wiigame) after wii sports resort.Things could change but i feel they have better games up thier sleeves then Animal Crossing from last E3.

[ChickeyCantor]

However, they did say they will use E3 to reach the "masses" since the media is there.

[Gr81]

But their reasoning was E3 was downsized and no longer the show it used to be. With the ESEA or whatever (lol) saying they want to bring the show back to what it used to be, I think the Big N will also adjust their strategy.

[tippygip]

Pikmin 3 would be nice.

[dkgshiz]

It was pure Sh!t.

[Product]

@ Gaffyh

Thing is i dont even care about Zelda,Nintendo has so many other franchises that need a reboot imo.

[FinalomegaS]

I know the list is long but a good number of these I want:

MadWorld (yes)
Muramasa: The Demon Blade (yes)
Sin and Punishment 2 (yes)
Punch Out!! (yes)
Monster Hunter 3 (yes)
Arc Rise Fantasia (yes)
Fragile: Farewell Ruins of the Moon (not sure)
Little King's Story (not sure)
Tenchu: Shadow Assassins (yes)
Fatal Frame IV: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse (not sure)
Cursed Mountain (not sure)
The House of the Dead: Overkill (yes)
Overlord: Dark Legend (not sure)
The Conduit (yes)
Deadly Creatures (yes)
Bleach: Versus Crusade
Wii Sports Resort (yes)
Tales of Ten (yes)
Kizuna (not sure this is even coming states side)
Dynamic Slash (not sure)
Sonic and the Black Knight ( not a sonic fan)
Rune Factory Frontier (not sure)

2010
So far I see:
No More heroes 2 (yes)
Red steel 2 (yes)
TMNT Brawl (yes)
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Crystal Bearers (yes)

Pikmin3... if it's coming then that's a yes as well

[bigjclassic]

new Zelda clip, SMG2 (Miyamoto wanted to make a sequel), Pikmin 3, Kid Icarus and some surprises.

[ApocalypseShadow]

how the men have disappeared from representing the system in mags,tv spots and executives at nintendo of america?

how games like wii fit,wii music and wii sports have taken hold of the mass market?

wii is a female system.men support it mostly because their women support it.get used to it.when all those hardcore games don't sell like the casual stuff,expect no support for big budget games like zelda and metroid in the future.expect lots of minigames.

E3 will be bigger this year.but watch how nintendo shuns it's male base again.nothing wrong with bringing more women in to play games,but not at the expense of shutting life long fans out.and most of those fans being males.

apocalypse..................

[Product]

Do you even go on the Nintendo channel?Besides a couple celeb backed ds commercials all Nintendo videos show a group of people usually mostly men in their videos when they are playing.The wii's casual audience is more group fun then playing by yourself in their ads.

Besides whats wrong with woman getting into gaming?or woman in executive positions?
Let me guess your one of those types that thinks woman are used for one thing right?

Be prejudice but a real man knows humility.

Besides jut look at the games coming out.They are more hardcore games coming out this year then any year yet your still complaining.

[ChickeyCantor]

" wii is a female system"

Your penis must be huuuge xD

Like product said, you are just one of those types that needs to prove his manhood.

Kinda sad though.

[showmethegames]

the Wii is a "female" system. and the people who defend it are usually girls or trannys

[Whoooop]

Let's see if 2009 can change my mind towards the Wii....

[Cajun Chicken]

Seriously, Nintendo need to get on Twisted Pixel's phone immediately and get an extended port of that. That game is amazing, the game mechanics would be a perfect quality, core title for Wii.

I'd buy a Wii in an instant if that happens.

[N4g_null]

Good call man thanks for pointing that one out.

[gumgum99]

Nintendo definately had a good half year in 2008, but not a good "whole year".

This year could hold some promise, come E3.

[Theoneneo81]

as Long as we dont have a 20 minute demo showing of Wii Music it should be great that was really awkward

[djslapdash]

Last year it was all 'lets be casual'. I didn't think much of it because i had the hardcore games i needed to play for the first half of the year.

Now though Nintendo need to release more Second generation hardcore games. If in this year nintendo continues concentrating on the casual gamers,

while i'd happy they will be leading the market,

I will have to think about buying a '360' or 'PS3' console to fulfill my gaming needs.

[Arsenal4Ever]

The wii is a "female" system, soo true.

[showmethegames]

YEAHHHHHH BOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!..... .......... HIGH 5 !!!!!!!

[SinnedNogara]

I'm expecting lots of new stuff like a Mario, Zelda, Star Fox, F-Zero, etc. If they don't announce it I will start an online petition. Something will come out of that with HVS being able to start a new project after The Conduit ships in Spring.

[Shoko]

I'm a hardcore Nintendo fan, but really, I could do without another Mario or Zelda right now.

What Nintendo needs to do is work on their franchises that haven't reached the Wii yet.

Starfox
F-Zero
Kirby
DK (A platformer)

But I want a new Metroid game most of all, and it needs to be online.

[TriforceLightning]

Nintendo Wii is neither casual or hardcore.Its disruptive.Direct quote from Iwata himself.

[Shoko]

He didn't mean it in a bad way though. He was basically just saying it's a very unique console.

[njr]

They'll talk about sales figures as usual, when the ones watching online will already know this. I'll take a pass on their keynote speech.

[razorbladelight]

2006 gave us Giant enemy crab/the dismal price tag for the ps3
2008 gave us that f*cking annoying woman for nintendo/rafi

hmm... i was disappointed in 2008, but 2006 gave me laughs. yeah 2008 was a bigger failure.

[Professor PGX]

Me, Brawler, and Wildstyle23 watched the whole E3 had had quite a laugh at the Nintendo side. I feel it was entertainig to watch, but low on info. it wasn't so bad. and the japan game show made of for it. I want a DSi, Sin and punishment 2, and No more Heroes 2. Thats what hyped me up.

Is Wildstyle23 still on this site?

[AWBrawler]

time flies when you're playing the wii huh? I loved the drummer part. that guy was crazy in a good way. Arc Rise Fantasia is what I'm looking forward to. And Nope. I don't think our Seldom seen bro is still on her, but he does frequent myspace groups and Joystiq.

[Shnazzyone]

I agree, last year was so abysmal that it can only be good from here. It seems last year maybe nintendo didn't make as much effort at the last E3(a failing game show from what i heard). I hope they learned their lesson and will show some new stuff that will really entice the long time gamers, the Hardcore and the casual. I would like to see a well rounded press conference this time around.

BTW... when is the next E3 anyhow? This reporter should have thrown that in purely because the date pertains to the story. I'm also curious what other video games shows nintendo might be having some press conferences with new announcments... or is E3 it?