Mark Cerny: FSR 4 for PS5 Pro is the "next evolution of PSSR"

The RDNA 4 upscaler is the first result of AMD/Sony's Project Amethyst collaboration.

[Muigi]

Excited by this news lets see how things play out.

[Eonjay]

They are basically working together to co-devlop the cnns and strategies for game graphics. So the research benefits borth products and they will share similar capabilities. So its not exactly FS4 that comes to PS5 but rather the models that then used by PSSR. Their long term goal together is to develop hardware that maximizes the execution of ML. This longterm goal will impact things like the PS6 but doesn't sound like it is focused on acceleration graphics only ML. This is big for AMD and will make them more competetive in the AI landscape.

[Fishy Fingers]

I always saw PSSR as basically a FSR4 beta.

[ZycoFox]

Still behind DLSS but I mean Nvidia have done a ton of research and they're still top dog in AI apps.

[hennessey86]

I don't understand the disagrees, the new transformer model along with ray reconstruction is on another level to the very good FSR4

[Eonjay]

To be fair we know that FSR4 will bring Ray Reconstruction like tech in the future. Also FSR4 beats DLSS3 and even some aspects of DLSS4. The era of Nvidia having a huge leg up in ML is over. Its not on 'another level'.

[hennessey86]

Show me where FS4 4 beats the new transformer model anywhere, I'll wait. It is however better than DLSS 3 like you say, DLSS 4 is on another level when it comes to detail and image stability

[Destiny1080]

that's good news for pro users, PSSR is about to get a whole lot better

[DivineHand125]

This is good. I love it when common sense prevail.

[Sacchu]

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[SimpleDad]

Basically, Sony can't put standard FSR4 into PS5 pro... so they are doing some sort of costume (give me this, remove that) option.
The upscaler chip doesn't have enough compute units for regular FSR4.

Something like PS5 doesn't have enough compute units for proper RDNA3.

Will it matter??? Who knows...
Cerny is basically making all of this for Digital Foundry entertainment.

When GTA6 arrives, Rockstar will probably have their own tech, as well as Witcher 4... with 8 different graphical option where you, as a user, can't see or decide what is the best option.

Who ever jumps on this is essentially a beta tester for PS6.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Yeah no.

[Babadook7]

"The upscaler chip doesn't have enough compute units for regular FSR4."

It has 300 TOPS not including sparsity. That will be enough. What it gets could very well be beyond current FSR4, which was a joint venture between Sony and AMD and will evolve over time. Either way it will be mighty impressive for console owners.

[SimpleDad]

Yes, over time for ps6.

Again will it matter... We don't know.

All I know is that Monster Hunter Wilds runs pretty good on PS5 while on PC (with all compute power and hardware options) has problems.

[Babadook7]

"Yes, over time for ps6."

Yeah. For PS6 there will be joint effort from this partnership.

But I was responding to you about FSR4, which will benefit PS5 Pro before PS6 is even announced.

[Fonsecap]

How about invest on games optimization instead of upscallers and frame generators, we all know that these both technologies are great but, developers are leaving game performance optimization and relaying on this technologies instead, and on so many cases even these can't prevent stuttering, frame drops, etc.

[Babadook7]

I think game optimization is up to developers. Not Sony. But upscaling helps optimization.

[Fonsecap]

That's what I said in my comment, I'm not blaming Sony, I'm blaming the developers, specifically in the AAA space. I could give examples but I don't think is necessary, everyone knows games that still have loads of performance issues even after several patches and updates.

[Babadook7]

I guess that makes sense now that I read it again. The first part seemed aimed at Sony, who was focused on upscaling.

[TheCaptainKuchiki]

I trust Cerny

[Kratos_Kart2007]

I thought this was Dana Carvey cosplaying Mark Cerny...lol

[MaJun]

Wow, that sounds like an exciting step for upscaling on the PS5 Pro! 🎮 FSR 4 with ML support could be a real game changer, especially if it is integrated into PSSR. Hopefully Sony can implement it without major performance losses - I'm excited to see how it will perform in games in 2026. Now the only question is: will Ray Reconstruction also be included in the package? 🔥

[KwietStorm_BLM]

That's what you call a big deal

[Ninver]

I'm not with the technical mambo jumbo. As long as gamers benefit that's all that matters. Cerny is the guy.