PS boss says Sony rules in consoles - Say what?

Craves (Cnet) opinion: "If there's one word that often fits Sony, it's "hubris." SCEA President and CEO Kaz Hirai likes to talk big, but I'm a little worried about what world the head honcho is living in."

[Israfel]

The 360 also, is at an almost 50%( half) lower entry price.

The 360 sold 28 Million.

The PS3 sold around roughly 20 million.

Considering the fact that it hasn't even finished it 1ST YEAR in Europe and Australia and everywhere else, except Japan and US.( people forget that). Plus the Price point AND competition. It's selling pretty DAMN well.

You can disagree all you want. I love my Xbox360, it RROD on me only once. But the fact remains that the 360 should have sold, at least 40 million considering every factor listed above. So this means, that the PS3 HAS MORE DEMAND from the public. Also, that a lower price point( remember,reducing the xbox360 another $100 is SUICIDE to MS) for Sony, can happen at any time, and when it happens, you can pretty damn well imagine what will happen. Oh, and HD adaptation is a sure to be phenomenon in the coming periods.

Now, I want to say that sales do not benefit me in anyway. Which is why I always hate Greenberg etc. Sales do not benefit us Gamers directly IN ANY WAY. Especially considering this minual difference in sales.

Because if sales are so important to you, why don't you just throw away your 360 for instance, for a Wii? I mean, they do sell a lot!

Fcuk greenberg, Shane Kim etc. Lies and distortions are USELESS.

WAKE UP AND START GAMING.

[Chris399]

Kaz has a point. Seriously, he should play MS' spin game a little more and start talking about the 120 million lead that the PS2 has over the 360.

It's still selling and it's still a part of this gen.

-C

[ymbsittend]

--i think you are a bit confused
--sales are important for YOUR console of choice, not that you should necessarily adopt the highest selling one
--if, for instance, Sony would have sold 40 million by now, try to imagine the benefits for you as a gamer

[Genesis5]

Well the Playstation brand is still the most widley gamed on brand in the world. Evidence shows that people are still putting the most hours in on the PS2. That is not even including the PS3 or the PSP.

Playstation brand(not just the PS3) still has the most gamers in the world. That is why he says they are industry leaders.

Not to mention they also have more 1st party software developement studios than any other console manufacture.

[Voiceofreason]

Well since someone brought up the article lets point out where PS3 was on that list of play times. Right behind the original xbox.. Thats why Sony is no longer market leader.

Let's cut the childish BS.. IF Sony can add up all their console sales why cant Nintendo? Nes, Snes, Gameboy, Gameboy color, DS, N64, GC and Wii... Oh wait they no longer look like the market leader to me... You do not get to add in previous gen sales with current gen hardware sales to try to say you are number one. That's just not how it works. Sony was number 1 but Nintendo outsmarted them with Sony's own business plan and took their market share. Sony was called the market leader because they had roughly 80% of the market.. Today it is more like 30% of the market.

Yeah Sony was great.. Once, but that time has come on gone.Sony fans are getting really pathetic in their attempts to ignore facts. The world isnt going to change how its worked for 30 years just because the only gaming company you support is no longer number 1. To me this attitude just proves the Nielson ratings release correct. PS3 is dominated by the 16 and under crowd.

[cayal]

"Sony fans are getting really pathetic in their attempts to ignore facts"

The irony of this statement, is 360 fanboys (like you), always avoid the fact that Sony sells more on a yearly average than the 360 does.

How is it the 360 is #1 when its yearly sales are less than the PS3?

How is it that the 360 fanboys seem to forget that the failure rate of the 360 was sitting at around 30% for some time and it is quite possible that over 6,000,000 of those '28 million' could be re-purchased consoles from previous owners who had RROD or whatever?

How is the 360 #1 when it is being demolished by the Wii? Why do fanboys conveniently forget the Wii?

Hell why does Microsoft always forget to mention the Wii in its weekly chess thumping tirade from Greenberg? I bet if the 360 managed to surpass the Wii, Greenberg would be on his soapbox saying they are beating the Wii and PS3.

[Chris399]

Those are reported losses collected from a third party, over the period of ONE year. Multiply that by 3, for each year that the 360 has been in circulation and throw in a few extra hundred thousand at the beginning of the console's life-cycle when things were particularly bad, and we have a world wide figure of close to 24 million.

If you think that MS doesn't count refurb/ replacement consoles as "shipped" you are delusional. A console shipped, is a console sold as far as either of the Big 3 are concerned.

Info upon which I am basing my assumptions:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/t...

http://venturebeat.com/2008...

[mint royale]

and when sony do too I suppose you mean. Look at sony's financials and you will see that the ps2 is at 130 million worldwide.

And to the op. My god. You have some good points but some very bad ones. The ps3 been out less than a year in europe? Its getting on for 2 years now.

'There is more demand for the ps3'.
No because the 360 is outselling it. I agree there would be if the ps3 cut the price but at this price its not. The 360 has more efffective demand. - Demand that can actually be capitalised on. I want a ferrari but I doubt ferrari will be counting on a student like me for sales.

[Maddens Raiders]

The PlayStation brand and products are ((the best)) in the industry. Any sane person knows this whether they admit it or not. Just the truth.

[rubarb23]

To your comment about how the xbox 360 should have sold at least 40 million.....you forget my friend, when the 360 launched, ps fanboys were waiting on the ps3, because of course 'next gen starts when sony says so' right? Everyone was lead to believe that when the ps3 launched it would crush the 360 and yeah that's where those 'wait til next year' comments started. The same goes for nintendo fanboys, they were waiting for the wii, so this whole thing about the 360 should have sold this or should have sold that is nonsense. in fact i could turn around and say, the ps3 should have outsold the 360 by now. i mean if i'm going by what kaz was saying and all the hype ps3 was getting. oh yeah, the ps2 guys were supposed to go out and buy a ps3 automatically right. so what happened there?
I totally agree with you that the ps3 is selling really good, but that fact that a hand full of games have sold amazing on that console leads me to believe most people are buying it as a blu ray player. that fact that ps3 games are hardly ever on top ten lists...ok ok maybe one or two on the list, but still, it's like what Voiceofreason was saying, where was the ps3 on the playtime list? behind the original xbox. Crap, i can't remember the article otherwise i would put the link, but anyways. what does it tell you that there are 20mil ps3's out there and yet the play time it gets is behind the original xbox? that most people buy it as a blu ray player. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if killzone 2 doesn't sell as well as what every ps fanboy out there is hoping it will. make fun of halo all you want, but lets see killzone 2 sell like that. you know, all sony fanboys, the ones that go out on message boards and make all this fuss and sh!t, ripping people apart if they express a different opinion than you (about killzone in particular), you are all in the minority. the majority of people who bought a ps3, bought it as a blu ray player. yeah yeah rip me apart to. and i'm not saying only ps fanboys go nuts when someone has a different opinion than you because 360 fanboys do the same. i guess what i'm saying is ps fanboys make louder noise over nothing.
anyways, Israfel, i think everything i just said speaks to your 'PS3 has more demand from the public' statement. oh just a quick addition to your "Fcuk greenberg, Shane Kim etc. Lies and distortions are USELESS", you forgot to add Kaz dude. That turd is no different.

@ Cayal

"The irony of this statement, is 360 fanboys (like you), always avoid the fact that Sony sells more on a yearly average than the 360 does.
How is it the 360 is #1 when its yearly sales are less than the PS3?"

They do? i thought that was just this year? anyways, ps3 is still behind and if they lower the price of the ps3, ms will just do the same for the 360 and we'll be back at where we are now. I really don't think the ps3 will outsell the 360 this gen, but hey, time will tell.

"How is it that the 360 fanboys seem to forget that the failure rate of the 360 was sitting at around 30% for some time and it is quite possible that over 6,000,000 of those '28 million' could be re-purchased consoles from previous owners who had RROD or whatever?"

good statement Cayal. But if I am going by your logic, and your wanting to know out of the 28 million how much of those are repurchased consoles from previous owners? than I would like to know out of the 20 million ps3s out there, how much of those are actually being used to play games vs just to watch blu ray movies. So lets just say, taking into account your statement, there are 12 million actual 360 gamers out there, how much ps3 gamers are out there? hmmmmm i wouldn't be surprised if it was 5 of that 20 million. of course i'm just pulling numbers out of my ass, but npd top ten hardly show a ps3 title on there kinda confirms most people watch movies on the ps3 as opposed to buying and playing games on it. Too bad that there's no way to compare how much gamers there actually are on the ps3. wait, what's that your saying? 'who gives a f*ck, a ps3 sold is a ps3 sold regardless of how it's being used', well i'd say the same thing, a 360 sold is a 360 sold.

anyways, for the rest of your comments about ms forgetting about the wii and if the 360 ever did surpass the wii greenberg would go mental. dude i totally agree with you. but i'm sure kaz would do the same if the ps3 surpassed the 360.

my d1ck is bigger than yours. that's all these comments are. alright i'm outs.

[Death]

On March 23, 2009 the PS3 will celebrate it's second birthday in Europe. It's been out for 22 month or a year and 10 months in that territory.

Microsoft had no competition it's first year? What about the PS2 which seen it's peek sales in 2005? How about the announced PS3? It's not like people were surprised by the PS3's launch a year later. It was an event that was well publisized for over a year. The Xbox 360 had more than enough competition.

5 million the first year? Shoot me a link for that. Microsoft had reported 6 million sold on their first quarter financials in October. That gave them 2 more months of sales before they hit their first anniversary. The first year total should be pretty close to 8 million which is pretty much what they average per year. In November they reached 25 million which was also their 3rd anniversary.

You state that the Xbox 360 should be at 40 million because the entry price is half of the PS3's at $199. You are aware that drop just occured in September of 2008 aren't you? That's a lot of consoles to sell in just over 3 months time.

-Death

[soxfan2005]

Exactly - PS3 fanboys like to claim the 360 had "no competition" for the first year, then they turn around and trumpet "total" PS2, PS3, and PSP sales. 360 was still competing against the PS2 in it's first year.

[umair_s51]

Wow that is some stiff competition, (360) a next gen machine vs (PS2)a last gen console.

[soxfan2005]

A console that has sold over 100 million units, with tons of AAA titles, is stiff competition regardless of generation.

[Chris399]

Wikipedia has it listed as having sold approximately 140 million as of July 8, 2008 - 6 months ago. According to this link:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1...

Sony shipped 140 million as of that time. It is not unreasonable that they are closing in, and will pass, 150 million in the next little while.

I am curious as to what material you are referencing for your claim of 130 million, which has been rendered questionable, based on the information provided by Sony themselves. A link to Sony's current financials would be appreciated, but I'm not sure if they have released their quarterly shipment figures yet. In any event your information sounds incorrect.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

sixfab2005 is re-iterating my point in the past. Xbox 360 at its current price is really competing with both PS2 and PS3. Considering they had a failed original Xbox and literally no brand recognition to jump to second place with RROD issues is very impressive.

Sony is third, and if Sony will leap over MS and become second or not will not matter. MS has gotten brand recognition, and entrenched themselves in the market. In that respect, they already won as they are eating Sony's pie as we speak and Nintendo is eating an even bigger piece.

No matter how you look at it, Sony failed no matter if they beat MS or not. None of that should matter to the average gamer though, because both PS3 and MS is on par and will get similar game support. The threat is and always will be the Wii, if you are concerned about support. So far though, it looks like the Wii is the crapware magnet though.

[patterson]

Kaz didn't say the PS3 is the official leader.
He said "Sony", meaning PS1/2/PSP/3.

Quote:
"Kaz declared in the February issue of Official Playstation Magazine --in the same article he says the Xbox 360 "lacks longevity"--that he believes Sony is the "official industry leader" in the gaming console market. How does he reach this conclusion? After all, the PS3 is in third place, according to data from research firm The NPD Group."

[cayal]

@ Cayal

"The irony of this statement, is 360 fanboys (like you), always avoid the fact that Sony sells more on a yearly average than the 360 does.
How is it the 360 is #1 when its yearly sales are less than the PS3?"

They do? i thought that was just this year? anyways, ps3 is still behind and if they lower the price of the ps3, ms will just do the same for the 360 and we'll be back at where we are now. I really don't think the ps3 will outsell the 360 this gen, but hey, time will tell.

I am talking yearly average.

360 - 28 / 3 = just over 9 million

PS3 - 20 / 2 = 10 million (and consider the PS3 hasn't been out in all places for 2 years.)

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"How is it that the 360 fanboys seem to forget that the failure rate of the 360 was sitting at around 30% for some time and it is quite possible that over 6,000,000 of those '28 million' could be re-purchased consoles from previous owners who had RROD or whatever?"

"good statement Cayal. But if I am going by your logic, and your wanting to know out of the 28 million how much of those are repurchased consoles from previous owners? than I would like to know out of the 20 million ps3s out there, how much of those are actually being used to play games vs just to watch blu ray movies. So lets just say, taking into account your statement, there are 12 million actual 360 gamers out there, how much ps3 gamers are out there? hmmmmm i wouldn't be surprised if it was 5 of that 20 million. of course i'm just pulling numbers out of my ass, but npd top ten hardly show a ps3 title on there kinda confirms most people watch movies on the ps3 as opposed to buying and playing games on it. Too bad that there's no way to compare how much gamers there actually are on the ps3. wait, what's that your saying? 'who gives a f*ck, a ps3 sold is a ps3 sold regardless of how it's being used', well i'd say the same thing, a 360 sold is a 360 sold."

I didn't mean repurchased consoles from previous owners. I meant people who got RROD (for example) and bought another 360 because warranty ran out or for whatever reason.

My point is that if Microsoft brought out a console that wasn't a disgrace in hardware standards. The sales of the console are going to be considerably less (I don't believe it would be 5,000,000 less either), but sales could be down to 25/26 million and not 28.

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"anyways, for the rest of your comments about ms forgetting about the wii and if the 360 ever did surpass the wii greenberg would go mental. dude i totally agree with you. but i'm sure kaz would do the same if the ps3 surpassed the 360."

I'm pretty certain Kaz does it anyway. Just not weekly.

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[Mini Mario]

Hasnt this story been played b4...>>>> ?

[Mini Mario]

"Well the Playstation brand is still the most widley gamed on brand in the world."

Really>>? even tho nintendo has the "Game and watch". the NES, the SNES, the Gameboy, the Color Gameboy, The Gameboy Advance, The N64, Gamecube, DS, Wii. That's a pretty big statement u just wrote that sounded like u were putting it there as fact. Did u do some research on the subject matter or just ASSUME sony is the most played in the world. Because those gameboys sure sold alot.

I personally could care less who plays what, i just dislike ppl that use ASSUMPTIOn as fact.

"Evidence shows that people are still putting the most hours in on the PS2."

And ppl dis the wii because its basically a ps2 (in their minds at least)......>>>> ironic.

"Playstation brand(not just the PS3) still has the most gamers in the world. That is why he says they are industry leaders."

I dont know about "leaders" i mean nintendo always seem to introduce new ways of playing that get copied, alot. The Handheld got copied by many companys such as sega and atari, and now sony. They also had rumble and an analog stick that got used in unique ways. The D pad is another example, along with shoulder buttons for the snes controller.

Even now for the DS and how they use the touch screen and microphone in new and fun ways. Even motion sencing has been used by sony of recent. So Really u could say nintendo is a pretty good contender for being a industry leader.

[Genesis5]

I refer to hardware that is still on the market still being supported and still having software created for it. The PS2, PS3 and PSP all fall into this category.

If you add it all up that is 200 million active Playstation branded pieces of hardware sold to consumers as we speak.

Does any other manufacturer even come close to this? No! So don't bring in numbers for hardware that is no longer supported.

A recent Neilson survey in the US (posted on this site) found that a higher average of hours are spent gaming on the PS2 than the 360 and Wii combined.

[The Mikester]

yeah MS brought the Xbox 360 out to the public with no competition and did sell 5 million units, but that was without competition. when the PS3 finally came in MS and its 360 did have some competition and that was b/c the PS3 was like the perfect system to some people. to most it gave amazing graphics, great games, and free online play. so to some people it really was the best of all consoles. now it was a little pricey but that didn't keep it from selling. now you'll probably go ahead and disagree with me saying that the PS3 sucks and isn't worth it, well you're wrong, no matter who you are. so Sony could be the boss of all consoles or MS could be, we really don't know, but what we do know is that both these companies work there butts off trying to sell, sell, sell, sell, and sell. we'll just have to wait and see who comes out on top really. other than that nobody can say who is better, but that both gaming industries are really good at what they do. i just think the SCEA and CEO need to stop braggin and just do their job, and that job would be keepin every gamer out there satisfied.

[Mini Mario]

"refer to hardware that is still on the market still being supported and still having software created for it. The PS2, PS3 and PSP all fall into this category."

Ok so when the ps2 does stop selling say 2 years (or whatever it will be), does that mean that u will be taking out those numbers of the ps2>>? because then it will just be ps3 and psp. So it will be the most played brand for another 2 years???

So really what ur saying is kinda stupid considering the ps2 had been round since 2000...and i dont care what u say if ur gonna add sales figures from NINE years ago u have to add gameboy advance and gamecube sales into the mix...and besides u can still play both on the ds and wii.

[MURKERR]

in sales it does not rule at all thats the wii,a price cut is severly needed

[bbelly9320_]

Their low quality fanboyism is amusing even today.

[Ju]

For me they still lead in what they deliver. They still push the boundary in the gaming sector for a price which is still affordable. Sales wise they are doing fairly good, and still, price is the only thing MS is ahead, not even sales wise (that'll be the Wii). But its the most powerful console out there, offers the most features (no, you cannot add a BD player to any of the other consoles!) and is reliable. Enough for me (personally) to accept leadership.

[Rowland]

Dear Hirai,
with all due respect, you are talking utter garbage. The only way PS3 will ever catch up with, let alone overtake Xbox 360 is if your devs stop churning out old but re-hashed run of the mill games & start producing exclusive innovitive & original titles.

Apart from a tiny handful of games such as LBP/Kilzone 2 the PS3's full gaming potential is still to be realised. You also desperately need to reduce the console price & until these things happen your main rival, Xbox 360 will always offer superior quality, choice & value for money.

The PS3 is a fantastic bit of kit & PS3 fans don't want to hear your BS anymore & deserve to know why in 2009 the AAA title list is still so small yet the console remains so expensive ?

[lipper]

what's his address ?

[LarVanian]

What do you call Little big Planet, MGS4 and Resistance 2? Innovative? Yeah I strongly agree.

Now, name three titles on Xbox 360 that are "innovative".

[ChickeyCantor]

Dear Hirai,

I like turtles.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

*fixed*

[pippoppow]

Most of the most wanted exclusive console games for 09 are for the PS3. Take away PC ports and DLC then what's left? How about you make a letter to your console of choice and complain to them about their lack of AAA titles and innovative titles instead. PS3's lineup is looking great and only an ignorant flaming fanboy can't see that.

[soxfan2005]

How can you call MGS4 and R2 innovative? First of all, they are sequels. Second, did the shooter genre not exist until those games came along?

[LarVanian]

Resistance had 60 player deathmatches with no frame-rate drops or lag. How can you not call that innovative?
Resistance 2 had an in-game 300 foot monster with brilliant graphical detail. How can you not call that innovative?
Resistance 2 also had 8 player co-op with a great class system and a huge amount of enemies on screen. How can you not call that innovative?

Things such as the bike-chase and Metal Gear Ray fight in MGS4 were innovative in my opinion.

I suppose by your logic in order for a game to be innovative it must not be a sequel.

Now please name some innovative 360 exclusives..........Wait man there isn't any.............Well there is Gears of War with the cover system- Oh Yeah! I forgot! Gears did not invent the cover system. It was a great old PS2 game called kill.switch.

[soxfan2005]

An in-game monster or lack of lag hardly qualify as innovative. Little big planet on PS3 and Braid on 360 (don't discount it because it's downloadable) are the two most innovative games of 2008. And yes, it is extremely difficult for a sequel to be innovative. A sequel, by definition, is an update or expansion of an existing game.

[LarVanian]

Lol I think its funny how you just blatantly ignored the part where I said "60 player deathmatches" and "300 ft". Nice way of twisting my words. :D
So you don't think a ""console" game that can play 60 player deathmatches is innovative? Really? Please name me one other console game before Resistance 2 that had those numbers.
Having a 300ft monster on screen without any frame-rate problems or slow-down is also very impressive.
Just stop being in denial and admit you were wrong about Resistance 2 not being innovative. :)

[soxfan2005]

Impressive - Yes. Innovative - well, we all have our own opinions.

[hay]

/brainless fanboy joke mode on
Cuz psthreezorz is awsum, sony rulzorz and ms is full of the brown thingy that came of animal's ar*es!
/brainless fanboy joke mode off

That'a pretty much bold statement. PS3 is doing great although Xbox is a tough competitor. I pretty much like this console war cause it pushes both console manufactures and dev's to push software as far as possible.

[Rowland]

you are right but one thing is clear: Why hasn't the Sony/PS3 responded nearly well enough?

It's about time Sony responded in every department because they need to. If change isn't forthcoming the gap will only grow. Xbox 360 are not perfect as we know, but they're ahead & they're hardly going to stand still waiting for Sony to get its act together !

[TheExodus]

You're not a leader when the rest of the herd is in front of you, you're prey!

[dragonyght]

since he chasing them doens't that make him the predator

[dachiefsman]

I think he was going for the weak are usually the ones who die first. The leaders of the pack are least likely to die.

[bomboclaat_gamer]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Mr PS3]

.

[ph3lid]

lol@Hirai

[NobleRed]

No one can't compare with the ps3. Not in grapichs and even not with the line up. He's damn right. PS3 Ownage train keeps on pwning.

[bomboclaat_gamer]

i know ur about 15 or 16 years old

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Sony is just disturbed MS is ahead of them. If they could trade positions they would...if.

It's like those nuts in halo or call of duty that come up with excuses as to why their team lost. No it wasn't their poor aiming or your good sniping no way that factored in.

Get a grip on reality kaz old boy you are losing despite the 360 launching first...cry baby excuse #1, despite the gap today in sales between the ps3 and 360. Some how 8 million+ is a small number.

How about the 1 million to 3 million gap in japan between the 360 and ps3. (Shocking)

Even if sony hit the NOS they won't catch xbox 360 this year or 4 years from now.

[Chrisy]

The only thing worse than this deluded POS of a exec are the brainless farts that actually agree with him. If ps3fags werent such ignorant and annoying shills that spend most of their days on joke news sites, crying and b*tching about how they think the whole world is conspiring against sony, blaming MS for the PS brand downfall and instead actually criticizing their dumbf*ck company of choice for creating an overpriced and underedelivering POS that most 3rd parties, western and japanese, abandoned than probably the current grim ps3 situation could have been radically different. Lol @ sony and their brainless lemmings

[Kazu0 Hirai]

Shame on you for calling me a deluded POS exec!!!! I know my console is in last place. I know it is impossible to develop good games for. I know the online is crappy. I know it is way overpriced. I know the blu-ray has an unusually high failure rate. But cmon, I still have feelings you know! Please be more nice in the future.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...The BEST in the World!!!;)
PlayStation Gaming Consoles ARE the BEST in the World!!! ;-P

Micro$oft and the xBot Zombie Lemmings on this are DREAMING if they think their xBox Brand is or will ever be as good as the PlayStation Brand!!! ;-D

[Foxgod]

*looks at sony's gaming devision financial results*.

right....

[Chrisy]

Ugh he is a joke character so why do you even bother responding?

[Foxgod]

to put down the background noise he is.

[razorbladelight]

Sir Ken's bubbles were dropping when people realized he was a joke. three weeks ago he had three bubbles... who the hell gave them back to him!

[dukadork2]

whatabuncha boring douches!

hey Ken, here's another bubble for ya: this one is dedicated to killzone 2 and the pompous jealous clowns who doubted it and are now looking very very stupid, lol

you're a genius, and the world is slowly realizing what a masterpiece your last baby is.

champagne my friend!

[MONOLITHICIDE]

yea just like the first XBOX

[KILL-ALL-CURE]

Dont worry Sir ken the only thing you need to ask these f4ggots is what does the xbox has that the ps3 doesnt. And they will probablly reply its sales are sh1t. Then all you need to say is well why the hell does anyone give a fuk about sales, compare it to something like...just because millions of people love the Jonas Brothers does it makes them better then lets say Vam Halen?..no, it does not. Anyone is is delusional enough to think that the xbox is better then the ps3 is therefore easily affected by advertising, Marketing, and unable to listen to reason.

[Foxgod]

People, open your eyes, sony is brainwashing you with junk like this....

Save yourself, get a 360.

[AbdullaMTR]

tell people to buy a consel with no games its not fair

Ps3 much more better with 21 exvlosive in 2009 + (play and have fun with careless of getting overheated and disc damage) is the best choise for every one.

[Obama]

why would I get a 360 when the ps3 has much better lineup in 2008 and 2009???

The 360 has boring exclusives in 09.

[KILL-ALL-CURE]

LOL WERE THE ONES BEING BRAINWASHED!!!? How could anyone look at the pros and cons of the PS3 and 360, and yet still think the 360 is better? I will tell you, you are easily affected by media and you are the kind that tries to follow a trend just because the majority of people who dont know how to measure Cost effectiveness of anything.
Zomg your sh1tbox is 200 dollars now? Great. Add the harddrive, wireless adapter, battery packs, batteries, Live membership, HDDvd player and your looking at around $660, wheras for the ps3 you can buy it for $400 base price, add the HDMI cord and its $440, psn is free, you recharge the controllers with a usb cord(whos doesnt have usb cords, Built in hardrive which can be replaced with a 500g or 2TB hardrive, built in wifi, O and what does the ps3 have? Built in Blu-ray player, and Oh whats that, HDdvds arent made anymore? well that sucks. And dont tell me Xbox has a better lineup of games, i can name a few that look really good, Halo ODST(as long as its nothing like halo 3 it should be good), ALan wake..And thats where i have to stop because i dont think there is any more. What does ps3 have? Killzone 2, God of war 3, FF13 Versus, The agency, MAG, Secret Rockstar game(Not crappy DLC), and alot more but i think you get the idea.

PS. Of course everything ive written here wont make sense to your nimble minded head but hey..i tried

[shovelbum]

Toke, Toke, Pass.

[Lombax]

puff, puff, pass

[Droid Control]

... They make good hardware, but as a company - their public face sucks. Why do they employ people like Kaz that makes them look like DB's?

So arrogant...

Its one of the reasons so many gamers, developers, and industry professionals want to see them fail this generation.

To knock that stupid grin right off their faces!

To knock some humility into their heads...

[Consoldtobots]

righhhhht

I find it hilarious how people like you have no problem fudding the PS3 all day long with outright lies and distortions all in an effort to see it fail yet when Sony talks up it's own product you are beside yourself with their arrogance.

get your head examined.

[Says you]

The userbase of the f@gbox 360 is false considering out of those 28 million are the same people that had there's broken on many accounts or stolen or had there house on fire and they would buy a new XBox 360 and count them part as the userbase, so I suggest to you, to shut up you retardbox 360 fan since the suckbox 360 is barely outselling the PS3 and Microsoft is just making you think they are!.

[farhsa2008]

assassyn are you a plain retard? 360 was launched a year ahead and its clearly losing its sales advantage, ps3 has THE games of 2009, what does 360 have? halo wars? HAHA.

[Voiceofreason]

Losing its sales advantage? PS3 had closed the gap to within 5 million and now sits 8 million behind the second place console.. How exactly are the closing the gap when they are falling behind? Or do your numbers come from Fairy land like most PS3 fans do? Maybe its time to tone down the acid trips long enough to see that reality and what you say do not match up...

Sony has an uphill battle just for second place. We wont even begin to talk about getting them to first because right now that just doesnt seem possible..

[SpartanGR]

Although i'm a sony fanboy i can safely say that kaz must be taking something. He's delusional.

Sales speak for themselves

Wii First
360 Second
PS3 third

Am i wrong?

[Voiceofreason]

bbls for being the first Sony fan I ever saw that was smart enough to see things the way that really are. I am sure there are more of you, just dont see them too often on this site.

[Oner]

Nope. You got it wrong. Kaz is right and the article is absolutely wrong. If you go by all available GAMING CONSOLES sold it looks like this

1st and/or 2nd Sony ~ PSP, PS2 & PS3
1st and/or 2nd Nintendo ~ DS & Wii
3rd Microsoft ~ 360

Why is it people omit/forget there are MORE THAN 3 being sold to the public? The article claims it is a "3 horse race" when in reality it is 6. THIS IS FACT people, not "fanboy" BS, no matter what ANYBODY says or tries to spin. Nintendo sells 2 consoles currently, Sony sells 3 consoles currently & Microsoft sells 1 console currently.

Now I know people are wondering why I have "1st and/or 2nd"...I will explain. It's because if you go by TOTAL sales for ALL consoles available that are STILL selling to the public right now, then it has to be Sony 1st. BUT in fairness if you go by launch to now from when the 360 released and including the Wii & PS3 a year later along with their additionals (DS, PSP, PS2) and only from that point when "next gen" became available, then without a doubt Nintendo is leading with Sony next & MS in last.

Kaz is talking about ALL of the PLAYSTATION line of products. Just as Nintendo would for their gaming line & how Microsoft would as well IF they had a handheld console OR they where still selling the original Xbox. There is no "spin", no misinformation, no removal of certain facts to fit a certain limited "point". Just what is the truth.

Sony's Playstation line sells/includes 3 consoles
Nintendo's line sells/includes 2 consoles
Microsoft's line sells/includes 1 console

Fact.

[7h3ultim8p00]

lol...oh Oner you are so funny!

Let me fix that for you then, since we are to include ALL console sales, even last gen ones like the PS2:

1st place : Nintendo (Wii+DS)
2nd place : Microsoft (360+ EVERY SINGLE revenue from PC games, since the PC has not been discontinued)
3rd place : Sony (PS3, PSP, PS2)

Fact

Besides, only Nintendo and Sony should be including handhelds here, since MS is not in the handheld market. Secondly, there are times when the 360 alone beat both the PS3 and PS2 combined or the PS3 and PSP combined.

[Oner]

Wrong again. Please try and learn how to improve your READING COMPREHENSION

You state

"since we are to include ALL console sales, even last gen ones like the PS2"

I didn't state ANYTHING about "last gen". I said CURRENTLY - SELLING - CONSOLES = NOT PC, NOT LAST GEN, NOT ANYTHING ELSE. Your weak attempt to twist my words won't work here buddy. THE FACT IS ~

Sony's Playstation line sells/includes 3 CONSOLES - To the public RIGHT NOW
Nintendo's line sells/includes 2 CONSOLES - To the public RIGHT NOW
Microsoft's line sells/includes 1 CONSOLES - To the public RIGHT NOW

I did not include Sony studio made games available on PC to make an improper point like you are TRYING to. Remember the ARTICLE in which we are talking about is about Kaz talking about the PLAYSTATION line of gaming CONSOLE products which has direct competition to Nintendo's Wii & DS along with MS's 360. PERIOD. I am talking about the topic at hand by what Kaz said. NOT ANOTHER POINT ABOUT PC's that has no bearing on CONSOLES like you are.

The only "funny" ones here are those who continually lie, misinform, twist, spin, omit, improperly add or talk "fanboy" BS. YOU fit in that category. Seriously, WTF is so hard to comprehend and understand.

Nintendo only sells 2 gaming consoles currently and the fact they are only a GAMING company
Sony's PLAYSTATION line of products only sells gaming consoles and is their DIRECT competition FOR duh ~ GAMING CONSOLES
MS has the XBOX line that sells ONLY the 360 CURRENTLY as a GAMING CONSOLE and that is it.

THAT IS FACTUAL. You can't cover that up (though you tried, albeit EXTREMELY weakly). Also why did you word your second comment in this manner -

"there are times when the 360 alone beat both the PS3 and PS2 combined or the PS3 and PSP combined"

But not PSP, PS2 & PS3 combined? I know why...you omit certain FACTS to fit a FALSE point (very weak). All that shows is you giving misinformation. Which again ultimately just goes to prove how BIASED fanboys need to STFU.

[00]

why can't PC be added, I mean you guys like to add it when talking about 360 exclusives.

[RememberThe357]

When people say that Alan Wake is an exclusive they're lying because it on both the 360 and PC. But hen your talking about ales numbers the PC is it's own market. Why would you put the PC sales in to MS's pile? Sony make computer, why not put the PC lot in Sony's pile? The reason is because neither MS or Sony will make money from the game sales of Half-Life or Mass Effect on the PC. Plus we're talking about console sales and PC's are not gaming consoles.

[Says you]

Voice of reason get real those are same people that had there XBox 360 broken down on them many times or bought more then one XBox 360 just in case the other one fails or had there house on fire because of the system or stolen, and they would buy a new one and count them as part of the userbase so no they do not have 28 million and people like you are blind and the same thing with the XBox 360 fans.

[Primetimebt]

As long as the PS2 is still around I guess the guy is right when he says they are still the leaders of the industry. I mean you can't dismiss the PS2 just because the PS3 is out when in fact its still selling, and games are being made. Just because Windows Vista sales have been poor doesn't mean Mircosoft still isn't the top dawg in the OS industry.

[SpartanGR]

And by that logic nintendo was never third if we add the sales of GameBoy and GBA. No man. New consoles new round.

[Tykis]

Oh plz get over yourselfes its just a little smack talk! lol :P

[Shmapanese]

no one will ever understand will they... wut are you guys? 12? 15? years old or wut.
you dudes are redonculous for the fact non of you even THINK before you open your pie-holes.

1st off,360 came out a year earlier and getting dominated MASSIVLEY from the Wii in sales.... it has the "best" online service right? it has alot of awesome games right?.. now its even less then the Wii and STILL getting its ass handed to it-

2nd,once again 360 had a year head-start on the "next-gen" game industry with more games and time to get ahead of the competition (ps3) come november 2006 (us release date)..
once again,the 360 has the "best" online service,no?

THEN ps3 and Wii finally hit the market-with BOTH dominating the 360 in a yearly basis still to this day.

HOW can you expect for sony to up and gain an EXTRA 6-8 million in 2 barley 2 years huh? that would be a freakin MIRACLE if it did..
sony allready knew the 360 was going to be ahead.. why? it gained a 8 million (or thats wut M$ claims) lead head start in a year of NO COMPETITION-

NOW,if the 360 came out the SAME year and time as the ps3.PS3 would be in the lead right now,hence selling more on a yearly basis.
and then wut would happen? Media wouldnt have something to go on and bash about now would they?. NO! they wouldnt becouse they would look at the positive side of things since ps3 is in the lead,witch MEANS... that more people choose the ps3 over the 360....

360 has some cheap ass (price wise) bundles out there now,i mean c'mon $200 for a brand new 360 with a load of games for EXTREAMLY cheap prices (priced even at $5-$10) ?? its got the "superior" online service with a bigger library of games,and dont forget their baby,Halo and their big step brother,Gears of war-
oh and MOST of all,M$ advertisments like CRAZY out there....

so why only the "8" mill lead? that sh!t should be WAAAAAY ahead of the ps3 in sales.. oh and 360 has got the MASSIVE (30+%) failure rate even with the new chips in'em.

so like i said, A"THINK,before you guys open your damn pie-holes".

stop and THINK why its ahead,then stop again and think AGAIN of why the ps3 is outselling the 360 yearly,and clearly means more peeps perfer the HI-DEF ps3 generation.

COMMON EFING SENSE dude.

yea,you can think of me as bieng a fanboy , (wutever helps you sleep at nite)- but in reality i only look at the reality of things with out sh!ting out my mouth.

[7h3ultim8p00]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah ahahahahahahaha r u mad lol?

[JOEdANGEL]

"HOW can you expect for sony to up and gain an EXTRA 6-8 million in 2 barley 2 years huh? that would be a freakin MIRACLE if it did.."

Yeah I guess you're right about that, looking at the ridiculously expensive price tag. :)

[JokesOnYou]

Since I don't smoke weed, but if I was cool I would smoke the same shiii Kaz is on.

JOY

[ultimolu]

The man is clearly insane!
The PS3 is in third place! What the hell is he smoking?!

[JD_Shadow]

Whatever it is, it's giving him a backbone.

And don't be fooled...Kaz was talking about in quality and longevity terms. Cnet made this sound worse than it really was (then again, this is Cnet, the people that are STILL not over the HD-DVD death).

[farhsa2008]

what you xbots fail to realise is that by the end of 2009, xbox will be outdated, it will have no games to save it and the ps3 will keep on growing stronger and stronger, their exclusive list is second to none, try and argue this point with me and i will laugh in your face.

[shutterspeed]

shut up damn!

Open your freakin' eyes! How many times have PS3 fans been saying that?

Wait until...

By the end of...

When X games arrives...

X Year will be year of the PS3...no wait...it's next year...no wait...the year after that

Secret PS3 game that will save PS3

It's never "has" or "is." It's always "will" or "shall" or "when." IT NEVER HAPPENS! Even when the 360 has a supposedly weaker lineup, whatever you guys say NEVER happens. EVERY SINGLE YEAR LOL! I mean, how stupid are you guys? Don't you learn ANYTHING?

[sak500]

@shutterspeed

Bravo +bubbles you gave it to him in as decent manner as allowed in GZ, my comment would probably been reported as offensive.

jeezus, to know that these guys just live in some fantasy world where whatever sony says and does is holy stuff. I've never seen any more delusional people on any forum except n4g.

Sales both hardware/software, financial losses, lack of dev support, media criticzing etc, everything is thrown in their faces and yet these sony lovers are oblivious to it all.

[Jazz4108]

go ahead and laugh in my face, like I give a crap about you.

[123360]

i agree hardware wise theres nothink better,i have the 160gb the damn thing never gets even warm i don,t know if its even got a fan i,ve never heard it,my 360 is noisy and hot as hell its being hardly used lately all the muliplats i,ve played on my ps3.its the only next gen system out there period.as a 360 owner i don,t see the system now as good as when it first came out,theres no doubt it was great when it first hit but since i,ve had a ps3 the quality difference is huge and the media functions,blu ray features are excellent.i feel the 360 needs to be upgraded very soon with games like fx111 coming out hitting 50gb,this might not be the norm but for sony with mgs4,killzone 2 uncharted gt5 etc it does,no one i know would want a game with 5 discs to play it when you can get a system that will do it with one.the man makes a very good point i think the ps2 shows that its still alive now.price is the only thing that sony has to work on the rest will follow.but ms needs to get some think out soon when the price advantage gets smaller where do you go then.bluray drives will be the norm sooner or later if you aint got a hd format what is your system worth.

[Gr81]

The adding of all Sony consoles as a way to claim you are number 1. It is sad and untrue, and didn't Wii outsell all Sony systems for the year combined? And if you add DS, Wii, and GBA and every Nintendo console ever made...It gets ridiculous just take your medicine Sony, You might not even get to 2nd place this gen.

[sak500]

360 1 year lead, sony double the price blah blah blah. All excuses from the same SDF manual. When console prices are discussed than 360 becomes more expensive. They dont take into account 360 had huge shortage in NA and EU during first 5-6months of launch. The 360's lead was only 6million when ps3 was launched. It did not have any shortages and was thrown in teh channel in full force. 2 years later 360's lead has increased to 8million. What about the RROD, higher cost of ownership, 50$ for LIVE etc?????

[Mini Mario]

cant u guys just play ya games>>? Who seriously cares. Last gen i played my gamecube more than my ps2 or xbox and it "flopped" according to sales. Yet i never came on here going on and on about the sales of the ps2 or xbox.

[SpartanGR]

Acceptance is half the solution to the problem. "My name is PS3 and i'm in third place". Ok lets see now what can we do about it eh KAZ?

[Stereojet]

How is the PS3 a worse console than the 360??

Truth is, it's not.

It's a better console.

[Mini Mario]

The mega drive sold less than the super nes, does that mean the mega drive sucked>>? hell no.

The psp sells less than the DS does that mean it sucks>>? No. Sales dont mean anything to me. Its the games i like to keep an eye on, not the sales.

[ApocalypseShadow]

{PART ONE}

say what you want about the position of ps3 in sales at the moment,but 360 having the year headstart doesn't mean much when you get outsold and are imploding from within.nintendo has past them and sony outsells them with a higher priced system.the fall price cut was microsoft's only saving grace.but it won't help 360 last.

NINTENDO

does anyone think that casuals will still care about wii in YEAR 10?YEAR 8?how about less than that?

wii will sell in large numbers but the system is known for having more than half its games being crappy and adding nothing new to the industry.the system gets gamecube ports,ps2 ports and now lacks any first party hardcore games for fans who believed in promises from nintendo.

if you think 360 getting gears and fable 2 was bad for christmas,what did wii gamers get for christmas?yup,ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.nintendo has dropped it's fans for quick cash by selling rapackaged hardware with a new controller.where's the LONGEVITY?the system has no real online,no dvd playback,no graphically impressive games or games that truelly take advantage of the controller.sad.

MICROSOFT

360 fans believe microsoft is doing great for launching first.but i see Microsoft Game Studios imploding from the inside out.and it had nothing to do with the stock market.becuase a lot of this happened before the recession.but the fans neglect what is happening.

microsoft's game section houses xbox 360,zune and PC game studios.the zune is doing terrible in sales.most retailers no longer carry the product and barely any accessories.i know because we used to sell it.it bombed.like it or not,ipod RULES.and i dont even have an ipod.

microsoft has also destroyed their lead by releasing a product they knew was cheap,had shoddy workmanship and had a failed add-on to try and stop bluray adoption that didn't work.tried to stop rumble from returning to playstation by helping immersion's lawsuit that didn't work
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsou...

microsoft tried to hide that secret clause from the public,but in the end,they got shafted themselves by immersion.the only thing that works for microsoft is XBL.and it doesn't even have dedicated servers.

but it doesn't end there.

NEXT PART:THE DOWNFALL OF MICROSOFT'S GAME STUDIOS.

apocalypse..............

[ApocalypseShadow]

microsoft's game studios is dying.

DIGITAL ANVIL-gone and or absorbed.
ACES-gone and or absorbed
BUNGIE-sold back to the company.no longer under microsoft's umbrella
BIZZARE CREATIONS-purchased and no longer under microsoft's umbrella
BIOWARE-purchased and no longer under microsoft's umbrella
ENSEMBLE STUDIOS-closing after release of HALO WARS.
FASA-gone and closed up shop after shadowrun 360 and PC.

i don't know about you,but losing studio after studio after studio and having to make TWO PRICE CUTS in one year is not so hot in business.IF IT WASN'T FOR XBL payments from 360 fans(forget getting live for free now),because LIVE PC bombed(pc gamers play for free.why would they want to PAY and get duped like 360 gamers?)360 would have GONE TO PASTURE LONG AGO.

here's a question:how many studios has sony dropped so far?

sony has more studios than microsoft and nintendo combined,yet, has not sold or closed ANY studios being in the supposedly "THIRD PLACE."might have lost getaway and 8 days to money allocation.but the studios live by making home,singstar,buzz and up coming projects like eyepet.

so what is microsoft doing?they only have about 3 studios left.turn 10,lionhead and rare.are these enough to generate BIG BLOCKBUSTERS?or is microsoft going to try to publish and buy exclusives from now on.and having NO FIRST PARTY STUDIOS?or,are they gearing up to buy a company like....EA?buying ea would give them tons of games under one roof.also,it would give them sports exclusives permanently for most sports.but chances are slim at the moment.

so what's with the doom and gloom for sony?they have a working system that breaks far less than microsoft's system,they have big games and more big games coming,they have 3 consoles selling and one is on its nineth year,they have bluray as standard and another reason to buy ps3 besides games,they have not sold or closed any studios.

sony also has 2 generations of selling consoles over 100 million.ps1 at 102 million.and ps2 is right now over 140 million.and ps3 in 2 years is at 20 million.

somehow,i think with all that,sony still shows leadership in many areas of the game industry.and promotes first and third parties willing to move forward with games like little big planet and flow.killzone and uncharted.gt5 and heavy rain.

kaz is right in his asessment in my opinion.

apocalypse.............

[bviperz]

for the logical explanations (albeit very, very good ones), in the end gamers care about games. GAMES, which Sony is still very good at. And the patience of Sony and the fan's who stuck with it (my PS3 was mainly a blu-ray player in 06, now more of a gaming console) are starting to pay off.

[Product]

you know whats sad Apocalypse your right yet Sony just posting over a billion dollar lose this quarter in their fiscal year.
Say what you want about Nintendo or Ms but their shares are higher and they are making profits off their systems that is what matters.Even worse is by sales figures not only in america but japan and the like Sony ps3 owners just are not buying games like they should be to keep the Sony from not being in the red.Fans hype games up then dont buy them.......who bought Bioshock on the ps3?and that was a great game.From what ive seen from NPD data if the ps3 doesnt have an exclusive or a popular third party franchise hitting the shelves...no one is buying games.

People are still talking about MGS4 didnt that come out in June?
Resistance and Call of Duty came out in November.Who bought Fallout 3?the new Mortal Kombat?Prince of Persia?Socom?Motorstorm PR?Farcry 2? by the look of sales numbers not alot.

Owners of the ps3 just are not supporting the console enough imo.The console has some good games coming out but thats why Killzone and God of War are being so hyped is because i feel the ps3 is being starved of games actual ps3 owners want. I could be wrong but then i wouldnt be able to explain sales figures.

[olLANDSHARKlo]

The arrogance of $ony is what killed their sales. First the guy tells you, you need to get a second job to afford the ps3(killed sales) now he is adding past consoles to make it seem like to the little kids that play on $ony consoles in the first place that $ony is almighty GOD. Their words have destroyed $ony.

[devilhunterx]

Current consoles being sold in the market:

Sony = PS2+PS3

M$ = XB2

Nintendo = Wii

who sold the most wins.

[shutterspeed]

you forgot Windows

[shutterspeed]

I can't believe Sony fans are actually supporting Kaz on this. REALLY? Are you honestly going to sit there and eat this sh1t? Man, it's really true. Sony does sh1t on its fans.

When we got RRODs, we didn't take sh1t. We b1tched about it until MS decided to do free replacements.

What do Sony fans do? They eat the sh1t. Like all those broken PS1s and PS2s that Sony completely ignored.

Sh1t eaters

[smurfie4]

What makes you think the people who had broken ps2's or ps1's were tolerant of it? Did you ever stop to think that the hardware malfunctions of the ps1 and ps2 weren't anywhere near as bad as the 360's? I only had my launch ps2 drive die on me once and I sent it in to Sony who put new parts in it. I never had problems with it since then.

[farhsa2008]

you are really delusional? I guarantee that by the end of this year ps3 will be ahead of 360, just wait, explain to me how the 360 will survive 09? You can't and thats what eats you up.

[Firstkn1ghT]

"I guarantee that by the end of this year ps3 will be ahead of 360"

I can't believe how some people can be some stupid and blind.

[Man_of_the_year]

There's the "just wait" comment again when referring to the PS3...i swear that when you buy a PS3 you get a free "just wait" with every purchase.

so lets see here - 20 million PS3 consoles that would = 20 million "just waits"...thats a lot of just waits...

I guess PS3 fanboys won't be running out of "just waits" anytime soon

[Droid Control]

jerk

[JD_Shadow]

And...umm...isn't this OLD? He said this last WEEK, and cnet is just NOW getting to taking him completely out of context? Maybe cnet forgot about all the sh!t Greenberg had initiated against Sony in 2008.

It's actually rather good that Kaz is getting a bit more c0cky here. It's about time Sony grew a set again. Whatever he IS smoking...he should KEEP smoking it, since it's giving him something that he lacked during most of 2007 and 2008: A backbone.

[bohemian 23]

Sony fans are likes cats chasing a mouse on a string. Sony will announce some new game or feature and get them foaming at the mouth, but oh you have to wait 4 years for it to come out. Home,LBP,Metal Gear,Killzone2, and on and on and on. Yet they keep chasing the mouse thinking they are so superior. If you actually talk to someone who isn't trying to blow Sony they will tell you that PSN isn't really all that great compared to live. Sony could crap in all your mouth's and you would make up an excuse for it. Oh wait they do anyway.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

yep and you get to play like 2 games this year, and microsoft craps in your dinner every night when it RRODs on you. Atleast sony is giving what the players want instead of sending my console away for a month. Yea it might take a while but they Deliver. You all dumb to keep buying a new 360 and dont think your Brainwash (Im looking at you FOxgod) just plain dumb. Make me Sick that you guys support a corporation that cant even give you a reliable console to play, waking up everyday wondering if thats the day you wont have a console.
I have a 60 gig PS3 from the Begining and it still works while you have probably gone through like 3 360s. lol but i know i know waiting is just to much isnt it, sounds to me like your a spoiled 13yr old and mommy buys you everything so you get everything when you want it lol does mommy wipe your A$$ prolly does, but i know a secret your mom craps in your mouth at night and you snuggle in it too, SICKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[The Judderman]

The ps3 is selling fine but i fail to see why people don't except the fact its third place at the minute. wii is first, xbox second. Thats a fact. Its like people have shares in them or something.
It is funny hearing the spin though.

[xg-ei8ht]

I told you M$ was really at 24million. ROFL.

I only speaka da truth.

4million in front going into 09. Oh dear.

[sak500]

Sony rules the bottom of the barrel.

[Ryuk]

Hahaha!!!! This guys on that sh!t. Time for your daily shot in the arm Kaz and here's a nice straight jacket to keep you warm at night LMFAO!!!

[Kazu0 Hirai]

Owie that shot hurt! But you're right I do feel much warmer in this straight jacket. Thank you. Now all I need is a muzzle so I can stop making these ridiculous comments to the media.

[SprayandPreycom]

sony is hurting big time in all divisions no longer are the days of the sony walkman....
basically what i got out of the article was sony is hurting so dont expect price cut any time soon

[JOEdANGEL]

I really enjoy my PS3, but the fact of the matter is, is that it's in third place. Is it a better console than 360? For the most part, yes it is. But one cannot also deny that the original Xbox was superior to the PS2 in both tech and innovation. I loved my xbox for that reason and that is why I now love the PS3 for the same reason. Unfortunately technical superiority does not always guarantee the most sales, and sales are what indicate industry leadership.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Still talking and still in last place. Embarrassing.

[Lord Vader]

LMAO!!!

More FUD from Kim...

[Nugundam0079]

Make me sick-You allow a few posts to reduce all of you to a mass of of blubbering 13 year olds-All you want to do is throw around numbers!!

WHO THE FRACK CARES?!

I don't care if you play on your 360, and I'm pretty sure you could give a rats ass if I play on my Wii or PS3!!!

WHY DOES IT MATTER?! WHY!?

NONE of you are being paid to defend the console of your choice NONE OF YOU! yet you continually spout numbers as if Sony,Microsoft,or Nintendo personally hands you your paycheck!

So continue to spout numbers and polls and NPD sales-But just remember unless you have a future in this stuff-NOTHING you say matters NOTHING.

Just go back and play---that's all we're here for.

[GodGinrai]

so true.ill never understand there fixation with this stuff.none of em work in the games industry anyways so why care who sells what? my favorite machine is the sega saturn .it sold horribly but i was too busy playng arcade perfect ports of capcom games and some of segas greats to notice how badly they were doing.Even if i was paying attention i still wouldnt have cared. Grow up pepole.theres a big world outside!

[dawq112]

Sony takes their time with games so they can be great! and we still get them so w.e
Idk about Droid Control but i like sonys attitude. it makes them look positive and proud even if they are in last place

[awi5951]

Now please name some innovative 360 exclusives..........Wait man there isn't any.............Well there is Gears of War with the cover system- Oh Yeah! I forgot! Gears did not invent the cover system. It was a great old PS2 game called kill.switch.

The cover system came first in Winback

[Enigma_2099]

I mean, sure it smacks of arrogance, but I wouldn't say he's reached a level of annoying yet *coughaarongreenburgcough*

[no-spin]

i currently enjoy MGS from PS 1
have PS2 PSP PS3 (Xbox 360)

became a fan of the brand with the PS3
like them or not, they are second to none in the gaming industry
good luck MS in sustaining their success
but the PS brand will be on top sooner than many analyst think

as for the 360 sales = that is it. nothing more than a cheap console
you have to be uninformed to compare the MS gaming division with the PS BRAND

[Karooo]

PSP, PS2, PS3 sales combined= undisputed leader.

oh god why do people compare ps3 always, i have no idea...

once ps3 catches up then lol sony RULES

[dredgewalker]

Maybe Kaz is just trying to say that technologically the PS3 rules over all the consoles cause it has all the bells and whistles. Being advanced pays more in the end cause even if you dont sell at the beginning you dont need to upgrade in the near future hence you got a future proof console. While Nintendo and MS treats this as a race Sony is doing a marathon.

[cryymoar]

my console actually WORKS.
and has the better games and better variety.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Sony being b!tch slapped with a bronze medal while tied up with a 3rd place ribbon.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Kaz is in a state of denial and been snorting way to much pixie dust.

[dredgewalker]

I would love to snort what hes been snorting. Heck hed get richer selling the stuff hes snorting with so many people down cause of the economy. We can call it the "Kaz miracle happy pill". Maybe Kaz and Greenburg do pot sessions together cause Greenbergs doing the same.

[cliffbo]

PS3 will just keep on running when the 360 is laying by the side of the road wishing they had brought enough water for a longer race. and with a standard HDD in every machine, EVERY PS3 owner can access and download DLC from PSN. that's what he just said for those who haven't got a business head