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Forza Heads to PS5. Nothing Is Safe

IGN: "The OG Xbox podcaster Danny Peña from Gamertag Radio joins us to discuss one of Xbox's "core four" franchises, Forza, heading to PlayStation 5 in the form of Forza Horizon 5. What does it mean for Xbox? And is any franchise "safe"? Plus: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 is out and awesome (and successful), we show some love to one of the newest games on Xbox Game Pass that you might not be familiar with, and more!"

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Relientk77100d ago

The first of the big 3 Xbox franchises to jump ship with Gears of War and Halo heading to PlayStation and probably Switch 2 in the near future. Many people saying that this would never happen too. Yet here we are.

LOGICWINS100d ago

Yes, just like "many" people said Death Stranding and MLB The Show would never end up on Xbox. Or that 1st party Playstation titles would never be ported to PC. Other than Nintendo, everyone is heading in the same direction of making their games available on multiple platforms due to rising development costs. Xbox is simply moving in that direction at a faster pace. Glad we can put the stupidity of the console war behind us.

CrashMania100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

'Yes, just like "many" people said Death Stranding and MLB The Show would never end up on Xbox'.

Kojima acquired the IP rights to Death Stranding from Sony, the MLB license holder mandated a multiplatform release, Sony have been doing staggered PC releases for years. I dunno why you guys keep parroting this like it's the same as Microsoft starting to put their tentpole games on playstation, when it obviously isn't lol.

MS are doing what they are doing as they dropped 80 billion on massive publishers only to see their console sales continue to collapse and gamepass stagnate despite the addition of numerous big titles like Black ops 6 coming to the service day 1.

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Elda100d ago

Death Stranding is not a first-party title, Sony does not own Death Stranding. MLB The Show is developed by Sony but it's licensed by the MLB which has total control, the very reason why years later both titles ended up on XB.

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1Victor100d ago

@logicneverwins
Well comeback when grand turismo goes to Xbox till then good luck with therapy🤷🏿

lukasmain100d ago

I love seeing you guys desperately cling to those two games. See Crash's comment. It's really sad guys

arm7117499d ago

This Xbox just wants you to play the games is out right misleading. They changed direction because they had too. Like Sega Dreamcast, the reason this is happening is due to poor hardware and software sales.

If Xbox was in the driver seat this wouldn't be happening so please stop acting like it is for any other reason other than poor Xbox sales. IGN was a big stoker of the console war flames because you all chose to partake in it.

The Wii U was a failure for Nintendo and they continued to remain an exclusive game publisher/console maker.

You can say Sony will do this or is doing this with PC but it is for VASTLY different reasons.

Microsoft imposed this on Xbox because the console brand has been in a sales decline for a decade.

You only mention Sony and not Nintendo because you know Nintendo is not going this route any time soon because they don't have too.

If Sony consoles sales tank they will be forced to do the same. Let's not act like Xbox would be doing this if they had the hardware sales Nintendo or Sony have.

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OtterX100d ago

"There's no way Sonic would ever come to Nintendo!"

Ha, I feel like this is my childhood all over again.

Christopher100d ago

I think most of the people who said it wouldn't happen have changed their minds when Xbox started putting 1st party on PS5. I think most of them want more of that, but they also want PS5 to put onto Xbox same day and date. I wouldn't harp on the opinions of people before the put Sea of Thieves, Grounded, and others on PS5. They obviously saw a change after that.

Babadook7100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

“Yes, just like "many" people said Death Stranding and MLB The Show would never end up on Xbox”

I actually never heard anyone say this. Death Stranding was talked about being timed even before its release.

Knushwood Butt100d ago

And a certain crowd trying to criticize it for being a walking simulator, before it got announced for xbox, and then the, 'walking simulator', talk suddenly disappeared.

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Neonridr100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

no offense but porting over a 3 year old title isn't exactly anything to write home about. If MCC does indeed come to other platforms that's an 11 year old title.

When a brand new Forza, Gears or Halo game comes to PS5 day and date, then that's something. I will believe it when I see it.

This is just about squeezing some more dollars out of a game that already sold extremely well and isn't going to attract much of a new audience.

andy85100d ago

They likely wont day and date, but you can believe they will within 6 months. It isnt about squeezing extra dollars out of old games. They have to put old Halo titles because there hasn't been one released for 4 years this year. And the last Gears isn't even this generation. But you can bet your bottom dollar the next ones will be on other consoles within months.

Reaper22_100d ago

"But you can bet your bottom dollar the next ones will be on other consoles within months."

You bet your bottom what?😆

andy85100d ago

Dollar? Are you okay? 🙃

Neonridr99d ago

I mean porting over a game that is over 3 years old kinda sounds like squeezing extra money out of it. Why does Sony bring games to PC a year later? Because they are nice?

Outside_ofthe_Box100d ago

You can't be serious. I thought you were much better than that. Not even Obscure or that Alt even thinks this.

Outside_ofthe_Box99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

Meh whatever. You're the same guy thought Game Science was lying when any ounce of effort into reading beyond what was purposefully fed would have led you to the likely right conclusion. I don't really understand why things need to be spelled out. You're acting like a couple of weeks ago people weren't on here saying this will never happen. Now all of a sudden this some obvious move to squeeze money out of older titles and not a step into bringing all their games over to all platforms.

First it was just games that already had contractual obligations.
Then it was just 4 titles Phil announced.
Then it was just franchises that weren't the traditional MS studio titles.
Now it's sure it's MS studio titles but only ones that are 4+ years old.

You think it stops there or will it inch closer to being day and date? "Sorry to disappoint you", I won't answer and instead will let you come to your own conclusion on that one.

Neonridr94d ago

sorry to disappoint you was in regard to you insulting me. When Forza Horizon 6, the next Gears and Halo 6 (or whatever we are calling it nowadays) release day and date for PS5, then we can have that discussion.

Next thing you will say is when they eventually port over the 10+ year old MCC it's not to try to make more money off of it.

Outside_ofthe_Box94d ago (Edited 94d ago )

Yeah they are trying to make money off of it, but I don't see your point?

Again, literally 2 weeks ago what you are saying now about games releasing day and date on PS5 is what people were saying about 4+ year old Forza, Gears and Halo... " I'll believe it when I see it" so obviously these games being ported over no matter how old is significant.

If you refuse to see the trend, I guess I shouldn't be surprised since you were also the same person that refused to see truth in the Games Science debacle when you lol'd at Game Science when they said they were having optimization issues with Series...

Let me guess you wouldn't find it a big deal if Sony ported over their older titles to Xbox right?

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neutralgamer1992100d ago

They invested 80 billion and didn't see the results so they pivoted. That's called business. Yes in a perfect scenario gamers would buy into Xbox ecosystem and sign up for GP. But since that didn't happen MS decided we can generate a lot of revenue and become the biggest gaming publisher while still providing great value through GP for Xbox gamers

IMO they should just release gears and halo already. Yes for few weeks some gamers will make fun of them but in the long run the extra revenue will be proof enough. Those asking where is value for Xbox ganers need to realize if you have a Xbox platform or pc GP you get all there games on there day one while on every other platform ganers have to pay full price for these games (unless they want to wait for a sale)

jznrpg100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

I don’t think GamePass is going to exist for very long. If they’re making good money as a publisher but Gamepass is stagnant they will think about getting rid of it. If gamepass declines it’s guaranteed

neutralgamer1992100d ago

We have to realize MS can eat a lot of the cost for a long time. Plus them releasing their games elsewhere makes them a lot of money so they can fund GP. Their end goal is to have GP on all platforms but let's

Knushwood Butt100d ago

'We have to realize MS can eat a lot of the cost for a long time.'.

That's not how businesses work. They've just blown, what, 80 billion? And you think the shareholders want them to eat more cost?

'Plus them releasing their games elsewhere makes them a lot of money'

Got any data on that?

'so they can fund GP.'

Why would they need to fund GP if it's profitable?

'Their end goal is to have GP on all platforms'

Actually, the goal they publicized is 100 million GP subscribers. With xbox hardware dead in the water, good luck with that.

rocky047586100d ago

@Knushwood Butt exactly right. GP hasn't even hit 30m yet. They were looking for that number years ago. Still not there? No, they will not be wasting money for too much longer on it. Two years ago, they stated they were looking for 50m to be sustainable; it's only a matter of time before they call it quits on GP at this point. What I suspect will happen, the service will turn into what Playstation Plus does, essentially. It'll give you massive discounts on newly released titles, and you'll still have access to older titles that rotate in and out, but they will not release day and date titles on the platform for "free" any longer.

lodossrage99d ago

Ok, if they stop Gamepass in two years like you say or change it to be more like playstation plus the negative press will bury them

Personally, in my opinion, I think they want to stop Gamepass. But they know they're in it too deep to stop. And with COD still not being enough to drive growth, I can see them wanting to waive the white flag on gamepass

LoveSpuds99d ago (Edited 99d ago )

@Lodo
They were thought to have been in too deep when they got into the phone business too. At some point, shareholders will demand an end to services which aren't making enough of a return (let alone a loss).

Another factor folk don't consider is that it is highly doubtful Sony and Nintendo will ever allow gamepass on their ecosystems. Each has there own competing platform and each make money for every MS published game sold on their respective digital stores.

lodossrage99d ago

@LoveSpuds

"Another factor folk don't consider is that it is highly doubtful Sony and Nintendo will ever allow gamepass on their ecosystems"

Everytime I brought that fact up I was called a fanboy

But with the Zune and Windows phones, they got out pretty early before it got out of hand.

Gamepass they've pushed hard for almost 8 years. And they advertised it in a way that makes people feel Gamepass is the only reason to even deal with Xbox at this point. If they stop it or even change it to a model like Playstation's that could very well be the end of Xbox period

neutralgamer199299d ago (Edited 99d ago )

Knu

Yes data is they were the #1 publisher in month of December and most of that income came from playstation. And I don't think that's how shareholders work. There is a thing called long term investments and right now for MS gamepass is a long term investment

So it proves 2 of my points. They can keep their bare happy by releasing games on GP day one and they can make a lot of money from other platforms. Right now they haven't released on switch 2 so once that comes out that's another platform for them to make money. Xbox made over 15 billion in revenue so it's not like that they are going broke anytime soon.

Microsoft's fiscal year runs from July 1 to June 30. Therefore, fiscal year 2023 (FY23) covers July 1, 2022, to June 30, 2023, and fiscal year 2024 (FY24) spans July 1, 2023, to June 30, 2024.

Fiscal Year 2023 (FY23):

Gaming Revenue: Microsoft's gaming revenue for FY23 was approximately $18.128 billion, marking a 16.5% increase from the previous year.

Profit: Specific profit figures for the Xbox division in FY23 are not publicly disclosed.

Fiscal Year 2024 (FY24):

Gaming Revenue: In FY24, Microsoft's gaming division achieved a record-breaking revenue of approximately $21.52 billion.

Profit: While exact profit numbers for the Xbox division in FY24 are not publicly available, Microsoft's overall net income for the fiscal year was $88.1 billion, a 22% increase from the prior year.

The significant growth in gaming revenue during FY24 is largely attributed to Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard, which was completed in October 2023.

hiawa23100d ago

Awesome, get the games in as many gamers hands as possible is best for all gamers.

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PlayStation Store: April 2025’s top downloads

It’s time to see which PS5, PS4, PS VR2, and free-to-play games topped the PlayStation Store download charts last month.

April saw a lot of action among the top spots. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered and Forza Horizon 5 broke into the top three for the U.S. and EU PS5 charts, while Wanderer: The Fragments of Fate dominated the PS VR2 charts across the board.

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Obscure_Observer12d ago

Xbox reigns supreme at Playstation!

I wonder what was the reaction from Sony´s first party investors to those numbers and what they plan to do next.

VersusDMC12d ago

Yeah I'm pretty sure Sony investors are just as concerned as when Sega started releasing games on the PS2...pretty sure the sentiment is "Another one bites the dust".

pwnmaster300012d ago (Edited 12d ago )

This dude is having a full melt down since the whole gears announcement lmao.
You think tears rolled down his eyes when he writes this lol

I’m honestly impress how Xbox fanboys can always spin shit. I guess they had alot of practice lol

Obscure_Observer12d ago

"Yeah I'm pretty sure Sony investors are just as concerned as when Sega started releasing games on the PS2...pretty sure the sentiment is "Another one bites the dust"."

With their new games legging behind Xbox games in their own territory? Playstation gamers turned into "Xbox gamers" while Satya Nadella beats his chest on how they now have 500 Million MAU?

No, I don´t think so.

No dude, I don´t think they´re happy at all!

VersusDMC12d ago

"With their new games legging behind Xbox games in their own territory?"

Forza got outsold by minecraft and Indiana jones got outsold by DMCV on the list so those numbers are weak.

Oblivion is number 1 for the month but i doubt it even had a better launch on PS5 than astro bot.

There is no lagging behind xbox games until they start selling 3 to 5 million on PS5 like ghost, spider man, GOW, etc...

Traecy12d ago

LOL! Most of those games are 3rd party games that were already on PS consoles except Forza.

pwnmaster300012d ago

I know expedition 33 is up there but it honestly deserves to be #1 on all platform. Game is fantastic

DivineHand12512d ago

The top 3 games are Microsoft published titles. Looks like they had a good month. I don't follow Minecraft but how can that game be selling so well for over a decade?

badz14912d ago

some games just keep selling and some other games keep getting lots of MAU and some others keep making money. it's just how things are in gaming.

badz14912d ago

I need to check out Wanderer for PSVR2. how come there's almost no marketing for this game?

Knushwood Butt11d ago

Days Gone did pretty well considering it only came out on the 25th or 26th of April.

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Forza Horizon 5 landing on PS5 means I'm replaying one of the greatest racing games of all time

Gamesradar:

Almost four years on from its original launch on Xbox Series X, I'm reliving the opening of Forza Horizon 5 on PS5.

The gloriously over-the-top introduction to Playground Games' open-world racing adventure is just as entertaining as it ever was, but there's one marked difference that steps things up a gear.

After jettisoning out of the back of a plane behind the wheel of a Ford Bronco, I careen over the hilltops of Mexico and I'm instantly taken by the responsive feel of the DualSense controller.

Not only do the adaptive triggers give me tactile feedback as I put the pedal to the metal, but the controller's vibrations change to mirror the traction of the wheels as I hit different surfaces. I really begin to notice how it enhances the experience when the race switches things up and has me speeding across tarmac in the silky smooth Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupe.

I've always loved how every vehicle in Forza Horizon 5 feels different to drive.

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z2g16d ago

I love how much shit ppl were happy to talk about Forza Horizon, but now that it’s on PS5, suddenly it’s amazing.

I’ve got news for you - it was always great, and a lot of other Xbox owned games are great too - but nobody wanted to hear it bc dumbass console war bs.

Tacoboto16d ago

I don't recall hearing shit about FH5 here.

Only just a few ridiculous things from some special people claiming the player counts are fake or suspicious, even though the player counts are *literally displayed on in-game leaderboards* and are based on nearly 4 years of availability as one of the most acclaimed racers in history having gone through several waves of largely-discounted pricing along the way

Cacabunga16d ago

I will buy it the day they release a physical version

Lexreborn216d ago

I’ve never heard anyone talk about forza games. I’ve heard tons of forza over GT sports or 7 though. I’m not into racers but the commentary on the games was never negative. Perhaps you could link some for me?

RaiderNation16d ago

Dude come on. Stop with the strawman argument. Nobody shit talks Forza Horizon. Everybody knows, even PS gamers, that Forza Horizon is Xbox's best IP.

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Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Already Looks Like a Gigantic Hit on PS5

It looks like the PS5 release of Forza Horizon 5 has already added almost one million players to Microsoft’s mammoth arcade racing game.

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darthv7217d ago

...just shows how starved for good arcade style racing games the PS fans have been. Just imagine if Sony had not closed Evolution studios. They are sitting on their own open world style arcade racer series... Motorstorm.

LucasRuinedChildhood17d ago

Letting go of Evolution Studios was so dumb. There was and is a big gap in the market for this kind of game.

I think people forget that Shuhei shut down a lot of studios and definitely made some mistakes.

MaximusPrime_17d ago

I played Motorstorm Pacific Rift last weekend, first time in years. I forgotten how good that game was.

Driveclub is another game I miss. I still got the steelbook case. I couldn't believe Sony closed Evolution studio...

darthv7217d ago

Pacific rift is my favorite of the lot. I will say though, arctic edge is a very well made game for the PSP/PS2. I do find myself having a spin on the Vita RC game now and then too.

Knushwood Butt17d ago

^ That Vita RC game was a blast. Yet another Vita game that got a raw deal from the gaming press, for no reason at all.

Abear2117d ago

Driveclub was so crazy back then, it got much better over time too with dlc packs. I don’t understand why some games become forgotten when they are clearly fan favorites. Cough, Bloodborne, ahem.

MoU15d ago

Sony actually didn't close Evolution studio, the head of the studio did because they were bleeding money, I remember reading an article about that back in the day. But it was their studio and they shouldn't have let that happen and should've lent them the money, dammit, how difficult could that be for a multinational multi-billion $$$ company to lend one of their best studio a few millions and just tell them to pay it back whenever they can.

They could still reopen Evolution studio though. I want Motorstorm 4 so bad.

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neutralgamer199217d ago

Drive club was in such a great shape before studio closure. So they had worked hard to fix the issues and than got shut down. Sony has definitely made some dumb moves when it comes to closures and acquisitions. They paid 3.6 billion for bungie and bought concord studio before they released a single game along with closing many studios

where-eagles-dare17d ago

darth, I would have loved a sequel to Driveclub or at the very least an update patch. That gem of a game had so much potential. I'm going to buy Forza at the end of the week as I love racing games.

darthv7217d ago

how that game did not get at least a Pro update is beyond me. It was very polished either way. Even the VR game is good.

IRetrouk17d ago

We wernt starved though, we got every arcade racer apart from this one.....
It selling well is a combination of things, but I dont think players being starved is one of them.
Agree with the rest, sony really messed up with evo

RaiderNation17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Sony also had a damn good Kart racer on PS3/Vita in Mod Nation Racers. Now that IP is just sitting in limbo, doing nothing. Thanks Sony!

darthv7217d ago

Man... I kept hoping they would do a kart racer what they did with PSASBR. To have the stable of PS characters in a kart racer would have given MK a run for its money. I get that it may seem hokey to have kratos driving a kart, but having him throw his axe out at other racers would have been cool.

RaiderNation17d ago

@darthv72

What made MNR so great was it's creation tools. You could create just about anybody in the game! The car customization was pretty extensive too! I had everything from Hitler driving a Nazi jeep to Michael Myers driving the Smiths Grove station wagon, to a black Iron Maiden van with "Eddie" driving! You could make anything!

jznrpg17d ago

There are a lot of games that sell great on PS even if it’s a flooded genre. Games sell on PS period.

Lightning7717d ago

"Starved" wouldn't say that. It's a solid game allaround they just wanna play it.

Abear2117d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Yup, GT7 is great but we need Burnout or a good NFS. Would pay a lot of hard earned money for Driveclub remake, Bikes dlc was godly, or would happily day one a new Motorstorm.

Waiting for sale on Horizon like I do 90% of games—the game is old at this point not paying day one prices.

TheEroica16d ago

Microsoft keep serving up dinner for starving Playstation fans. They must be raking in the dough.

IRetrouk16d ago

Someone has to fund your gamepass, yall aint doing it🤣
Playstation fans have always supported third party devs, its just what we do🤷‍♂️

TheEroica15d ago

I don't sub to gamepass... But it's been obvious how bad of a generation it's been for Sony gamers. Thank you Microsoft for not letting them feel left out.

IRetrouk15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I'm just glad we could save another 3rd party publisher from shutting doors🤷‍♂️

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DivineHand12517d ago

Glad they are seeing success from this. The game is one of the best racing games on the market. There are not much arcade racers available on PlayStation so to get a AAA experience is welcomed.

Fishy Fingers17d ago

Its a fantastic game.

Highest rated PS5 racer and potentially 2025 game is a Xbox studios title. Who saw that coming a decade ago.

Reaper22_17d ago

Not surprised. Forza has always been the best in that genre. Playground Games are really good devs. Microsoft was smart to add them to their family of devs.

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