The RTX 5080 smoked Sony's best console in our testing, here's by how much

Sebastian writes: "Considering between the two? We find the most significant differences between the PS5 Pro vs RTX 5080 to find which is best for you."

[Neonridr]

No surprise there, the equivalent GPU in the Pro is said to be around a 4060 Ti.

[Nitrowolf2]

$1000 for just a GPU, vs a $700 fully featured console isn't exactly the type of comparison that I would call fair anyway.

It certainly is dumb, and would be embarrassing if the former wasn't better

[Neonridr]

Depends on the person. Most avid PC users already have very capable PCs, so the only need is to purchase the GPU for example.

so while entire setup might be heavily slanted to one side, a single purchase between a new GPU and a PS5 Pro is worth a thought I guess. But ultimately it comes down to what you like to play and how you like to play it.

[Babadook7]

@neon

What you’re proposing assumes you’re an avid PC owner. For every PC owner in such a situation there is a PlayStation owner in the opposite situation.

PC offers the better experience with no price considerations generally. PS5 Pro offers the better experiences for the money.

[Babadook7]

@neon

Depends on the person but disingenuous to argue from the point of view of being already invested and somehow the cost of the cpu and motherboard don’t add to the total. Those need to be upgraded too and no doubt have been recently for anyone adding a 5080. Wonder how many thousands PC guide spent on that machine without mentioning the number.

Nitrowolf is spot on.

[DazaMc]

Neonridr, most PS5 Pro users had a PS5 to sell (I certainly did), bringing the Pro's cost down to £400

[RedDeadLB]

1000$ my ass, it's selling for close to 2000€ where I live. The 4080super is at 1200€ still. What a joke of a generation.

[LikAChicken]

@babadook7

I'm sorry why would you need to upgrade your motherboard and CPU for every new GPU?

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

1k is for the founder’s edition of that gpu which u ABSOLUTELY cannot find at retail price. The TRUE price of a 5080 is $1250 minimum. Pointless comparison and my 4070 Smokes a PRO.

[Neonridr]

@Babadook7 - do you factor in the price of your fancy new 4K TV in the cost of a Pro? Or do you assume you already have one?

[Christopher]

***do you factor in the price of your fancy new 4K TV in the cost of a Pro? Or do you assume you already have one? ***

This isn't a winning argument. PC gamers also need a 4k monitor or TV. And it doesn't need to be fancy or new unless you want to see the best out of your latest GPU. The whole point of consoles is to buy everything pre-packaged in one and use it for 7-10 years. The point of PCs is to have the option to upgrade whenever you want, but there are absolutely costs and the possible need to upgrade multiple elements to achieve that, which will be more expensive than just sticking with a single piece of hardware over 7-10 years. Even more expensive than buying both the base and then mid-gen console upgrades.

Why are we even arguing this when that's the whole point of PC. You decide how much to invest and when and you're happy with it?

Also: ***Most avid PC users already have very capable PCs***

Yeah, most "avid" PC users spend way more on their PC than all console gamers spend on hardware.

[Babadook7]

"I'm sorry why would you need to upgrade your motherboard and CPU for every new GPU?"

@Likachicken
I didn't say that. But you'll need to upgrade them just as often and most likely more often than once a console generation.

[neutralgamer1992]

Neo

Most Pc gamers still use a 1080TI. As a Pc gamer we can't compare Pc to PS5/XSX. My GPU alone was twice the cost of PS5 PRO. Some tech focused youtubers tried to build a $700 PC to compete with pro and couldn't do that. Yes console gamers will complain because of the cost but I think many times they forget a $700 console that will be useful for next 5-7 years is much better value than a $1000 cell phone for 3-4 years (most people buy phones much more regularly)

1440P at steady 120FPS Pc costs around $1400-$1500

[Neonridr]

@Christopher - same goes for the Pro.. why would you use a 4K/60 TV with a Pro if you can't even use features like HDMI 2.1?

[Christopher]

***@Christopher - same goes for the Pro.. why would you use a 4K/60 TV with a Pro if you can't even use features like HDMI 2.1? ***

What? You're the one who made it seem like PC gamers wouldn't need a new monitor/TV to take advantage of the latest tech they just bought. Why are you bringing this to me when you completely missed it but tried to make it out like only console gamers would need it?

[ZycoFox]

I mean.. according to DF, next gen consoles won't even match previous gen high end GPUs, given the lackluster increases for the 5000 series I can see it.

[Babadook7]

They’re dumb if they believe that.

[mkis007]

If( and i have heard this is too low a comparison) the ps5 pro is the 4060ti and not a new generation...the ps6 will absolutely by more powerful than the high range of that series...possibly not the 4090, but the 4080 should be a sure thing...3-4 years from now.

[Tapani]

You are correct. With technology like DLSS4 and the Transformer model you can essentially render at 1080p and get a 4K-like image. FSR4 looks like a winner from the early hands-on reports, so maybe the PS6 can utilize something like that with an 3D-Vcache CPU/GPU to come closer to Nvidia. I don't think the UDNA topline will be close to even RTX 5090, so maybe around 7900XT performance is possible for the PS6, just with a better upscaler and a proper Frame Gen.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

It'll probably be low to mid-range 5000 series, I think, technically the 1080 ti trades blows with the original PS5, and that's an 8-year-old GPU. But by then, the 6000 series will also be out in the wild, I'm thinking 5070 or 5070ti in terms of performance.

[Junryain88]

Bs! My 4060 smokes the PS5 pro. I know, I have both and I can push the graphics more on my 4060 and still have better performance.

[Gamingsince1981]

Odd because I have a 4060 ti and I can't get any kind of decent 4k experience at all on my pc not even close to the ps5 .........neither have any of my customers at my pc store.

[andy85]

It really doesn't. I have a 4070. It's certainly comparable. The only proper advantage I have is being able to have 120 fps in anything I want. But on actual graphics? There's no smoking

[VenomUK]

Hopefully PC Guide can do a comparison between the $2000 Nvidia RTX 5090 and the standard model PS5. I’m no expert but I’ve a sneaking suspicion that Sony’s console is really going to get smoked! Ha ha.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@VenomUK,
It's not even a competition, the 5090 be double the performance, and maybe a little more than that, it's a bit of a cruel comparison to even attempt.

[Gamingsince1981]

@ff fanatic

I think that was venoms point, this articles comparison is stupid considering the gpu costs more than a ps5 pro.

[Junryain88]

The cope is real. The PS5 pro is not better than a 4060. It sounds like a you problem.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@Gamingsince1981
True, I guess I'm just reinforcing his argument at this point, although WTF is with the disagrees? The standard model PS5 isn't even in the ballpark of the 5090's performance, there's been about 2 or 3 generations of Nvidia GPU since the original PS5 released. And the original PS5 is about a 1080Ti in terms of performance, or a 3070 if you want a more modern comparison.

[kayoss]

@Neonridr, youre not winning this debate.

[z2g]

4060ti is 22 TFLOPs. That’s 7 more than the ps5 pro - and you’re not limited to RDNA 1.5 (ps5s don’t run true RDNA 2). This is running RDNA 3

[Sarcasm]

Everyone always acting like it's a race. lol

[RaidenBlack]

Stupid headlines like this create unnecessary rifts and engagements.
Of course the more expensive gpu will beat the less expensive console.

[Christopher]

While I am the person who submitted the article per my job, I agree with this assessment as an individual. Sadly, these headlines get people talking about it (hence the 4 and now my comment before it even gets approved). People can't but help to call out the stupid stuff, which means it gets promoted more and normalized more. What a society we live in.

[VenomUK]

Christopher: ‘don’t blame the player, blame the game’!

[Christopher]

@VenomUK: It's going to go here anyway. You want someone who might push anything through no matter what or someone who knows what belongs and how it should be properly submitted doing it?

Edit: Sorry, didn't mean to be harsh. Just, well, the reality we live in.

[VenomUK]

@Christopher Hey Chris, don’t take my joke personally, just having a little fun!

[VenomUK]

No worries, all good.

[lukasmain]

I ran a 100m race against the fastest kid in my son's 5 year old class, and I SMOKED HIM. Do you see how great I am?

[italiangamer]

Pc dude bro needs to reaffirm his "technological masculinity" 🤦🏻

[ibrake4naps]

duh. The pro is just a mid-gen refresh of a 5 year old console...

[spoonard]

What a stupid comparison. But i'd say the PS5 Pro smokes a 5080 any day of the week. Because a 5080 doesn't have the rest of the PC to make it work.

[Vithar]

comparing consoles to 1 GPU lol are these guys dumb?

[andy85]

I don't mind when they compare but they're supposed to be comparing the GPU. The CPU they used is $500 alone and 64GB of high spec RAM. What's that close to another $300? An interesting comparsion would have been the GPU with a poorer CPU

[ZycoFox]

Uh, you can literally pick up Zen 4 8 core chips for well under 200 on AliExpress for like over a year.. they completely smoke the Zen 2 in the PS5 and Pro.

[kayoss]

I dont think youre making the argument you think you are. How are still trying to justifying a $1000 GPU and adding a $200 CPU so you can compare it to a $700 console?

[Zenzuu]

"The PS5 Pro offers 16GB of dedicated VRAM from the GDDR6 spec, leading to a bandwidth of 448GB/s"

Author of the article doesn't even bother to check the specs sheet properly. The PS5 Pro has a memory bandwidth of 576GBs, not 448Gbs.

Also, of course it's going to be one sided considering the price differences. Everyone already knows that.

[Ozzy2407]

£1000 GPU only vs All in one £650 PS5 pro of couse it going to be better what a stupid comparison

[Good-Smurf]

It better damn well be, the darn thing costed more than the whole of PS5 Pro.
Kinda hilarious PCguide would have to shill this so hard because no one at the moment can get their hands on 5090 even at overinflated prices so they only have 5080 to work with.

[badz149]

the ROG variant of the RTX5080 MSRP is $1500 and considering all of them are virtually sold out right now, the cheapest on offer on eBay is around $1800. with that price, you can get 2 PS5 Pro and 2 years of PS+ for each console and a retail $70 game, with $10 to spare haha. not including tax of course.

[gigoran8]

wait, someone actually felt they needed to do a test to prove this? It's like doing a science experiment to prove that water is wet.

[iamtheMitch]

The GPU die in the 5080 probably costs ~2.5x to make vs the entire CPU+GPU APU die in the PS5 Pro. Kinda expected...

[franwex]

Can we compare a Nintendo Switch to the RTX 5080 next?

[derek]

PC gamers trying to force their way into console war type conversations.

[Plague-Doctor27]

With the Steam deck and the SteamOS in general Steam is already set up as a replacement for Xbox in the console war

[tay8701]

What a stupid article.

[DivineHand125]

It is not possible for any currently AMD products to compare with the RTX 5080. DLSS gen 4 is too far ahead. Mark Cerny in his interview with DF did mention that future Playstation consoles will have a version of multi frame gen but that day isn't today.

[anast]

A supercar is faster than a sports car, a castle is bigger than a house, an elephant is bigger than a lion....Seriously, I hope AI wrote this, because there is no way someone would spend time writing this kind of content for people that already know how to read.

[Aloymetal]

Exactly! I was going to write a similar thought but you made it pretty clear. What I get from these articles is: ''I can't cheer nor praise my fav underutilized console anymore since they don't even try to be competitive and put out state of the art graphics anymore so I need to find a mundane comparison from another platform just to make an obvious stupid point''...

[anast]

so true

[hiawa23]

I mean, is this really a surprise?

[883]

First disclaimer. I run a 4090 in my P.C. My reply to the headline:
Yet it is not going to be playing many games any time soon that look remarkably better...
Higher frame rate? Absolutely. However it is a reality that the MASSIVELY higher powered P.C. hardware is ultimately utilized to play (pretty much) the same games as the consoles but with technically better ray tracing that many would be hard to see (and I DO LOVE path tracing - don't get me wrong, I would love everything to have it) and still when compared to the PS5 Pro that often runs fidelity mode at 60fps, with the PC, we can get even higher. So yes, it outperforms it, but other than a higher frame rate (compared to what is generally already solid on the PS5 Pro), the games' looks do not generally come anywhere close to reflecting the wild power divide between my PC and my PS5 Pro. Again, same games (mostly), and other than frame rates *above* 60, mostly look very similar unless one knows what to look for and even then, I can get really excited about the processing power required to do a certain thing, while acknowledging that the actual appearance is NOT that different from a purely practical perspective. We are very much at "diminishing returns" in the first place, but because games are not designed to only be playable on the highest end P.C. hardware, those capabilities are not really demonstrated as they could be and so the biggest difference typically remains the ability to run a VERY high frame rate vs. what most would still consider a good frame rate with the PS5 Pro. Nevemind the fact that developing for only the highest end P.C. components will not happen because only a minuscule percentage of P.C. users have that hardware in the first place.

[XBManiac]

Well... an RTX 5080 is around 1600 US dollars right now... and it seems that it will stay above $1200 for a year... BTW, you have to add the cost of RAM, processor, SSD, etc. What kind of click bait for noobs is this? Ok, Ok... it is an NVIDIA paid ad. Understand...

[PRIMORDUS]

Even the 4070 is faster, why would they even use a 5080 for complete overkill lol. This is not even a fair match. Try a 4060 or 4060 Ti or AMD equivalent.

[gold_drake]

of course they did, but is it rly that surprising?

it aint a competition rly.

[jwillj2k4]

“In conclusion, the thing that costs more performance better. Great job guys.”

[Deeeeznuuuts]

Be a bit embarrassing if it didn't 😅

[Lionsguard]

May as well also show us how much it beats a Sega Genesis while you're at it.

[Miacosa]

Another stupid article comparing a componte that is already more expensive than an entire console before its even placed in an even more expensive build PC. Plus does it even matter when one cannot even buy the card.

[z2g]

And water is wet. That’s why I keep suggesting if you really care about resolution, frame rate etc, you shouldn’t be on a console. Just buy a damn pc.

[Exvalos]

This is a dumb comparison the card alone is 300.00 more then the pro. You comparing basically a 5000.00 pc to a 700.00 console

[Npugz7]

All this GPU mumbo jumbo is absolutely pointless when developers can’t make good games or showcase the power of these cards and consoles. Gaming has taken a step back due too monetization and lazy development.

[UltimateOwnage]

And? It’s $1000 without the rest of the PC it takes to get the most out of it, and before paying the reseller tax. Why bother comparing. Now if it cost the same I’d be impressed that it “smokes it”.

[DaniMacYo]

Well duh it’s a more newer GPU. You’d think it would.

Also if this link works. Anyone think this is crazy or is this normal for PC gaming these days. I don’t know much about PC gaming. But this seems like a mistake or a scam. Basically they want 13K for 6000 48GB RTX. Is this what the future of Nvidia will look like.

https://www.bigw.com.au/pro...

[Runechaz]

And the PS6 will smoke the RTX 5080....