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Mark Cerny Explains PlayStation's Focus On GPU Power Over CPU Upgrade For PS5 Pro

PlayStation lead architect Mark Cerny has offered an explanation on PlayStation's focus on GPU power over CPU upgrades for the PS5 Pro.

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andy85178d ago

Only logical really. Had this argument loads on here. "Why have they not changed the CPU". Well it's costing £700 without doing that. How much did you want it to cost exactly doing both? CPU based games are probably 1/10 to GPU games' 9/10. That's why the money should be in the GPU

Fishy Fingers178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

Its easier/cheaper to manufacture (at least one chip on the APU is the same).

And more importantly, console games are mostly GPU bound (as they have ass CPUs compared to modern PCs) so keeping it the same makes life easier on devs to build the CPU requirements for both PS5 & Pro and just scale up on the GPU side of things.

DivineHand125178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

He could have made compromises to improve not only the GPU but the CPU as well. The CPU inside the PS5 is equivalent to the Ryzen 7 3700x. If he had approached it with the same logic as a PC gamer/builder, he would have left out the wifi 7 card and used a 1 TB internal storage instead of 2. That would have reduced the total cost of the system enough for him to add a CPU that is equivalent to a Ryzen 5 5600x or better while releasing it at $700.

That would have felt like a true generational leap over the base PS5 without having to rely on PSSR.

There is a reason Digital Foundry asked that question because they too believe the CPU could have been upgraded.

Dreadbourn178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

The 3700x is perfectly fine for 60fps. A 5600x like upgrade would have been a waste of resources for what they want out of it.

DivineHand125178d ago

So let me get this straight. You are fine with getting less for your money when there was a way for you to get more for that $700?

There are some titles that struggle to reach a locked 60 fps because of this CPU limitations and some titles that looks visually worst that the base PS5 because of the developer's poor implementation of PSSR. The more power inside the PS5 pro means, less issues from devs and a better product for you the consumer.

Don't blindly defend everything from Sony.

Dreadbourn177d ago

No, divinehand, I'd rather them do what they did with the SSD than a CPU upgrade. I have a PC I built with a 3600x and a 6800xt, I can count the number of titles I've tried that are CPU bottlenecked on one hand, and none of them are on console. You wouldn't see a real measurable difference in 99% of titles going from a 3700x to a 5600x until you start getting to 100+ fps, and that territory means next to nothing for consoles.

mkis007178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

You are ignoring the fact that the cpu bound games are all countable on one hand vs the gpu ones. It isn't worth it in this case. Any upgrade wouldn't have been enough even with other cutbacks. He's been lead architect for the past 4 consoles for a reason.

DivineHand125178d ago

How would reducing the drive space from 2 TB to 1 TB and keeping Wifi6 in the PS5 pro impact the performance?

Those are expensive components and the budget of those could have gone towards a better CPU while keeping the same GPU the PS5 Pro currently has.

The_Algorithm178d ago

The Pro was never meant to be a "true generational leap over the base PS5", that's what the PS6 will be for.

richie007bond177d ago

Tell that to the folks forking out $700

Firebird360178d ago

Anybody else get the feeling after that presentation that ps6 might not be backwards compatible and almost certainly not with ps4 games.

mkis007178d ago

not at all, he even said he didn't need to butterfly ps4 pro after all. "once it's in it's in." He said something in a digital foundry interview about timings not having to line up as he once thought.

Reaper22_178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

I'm not impressed at all with what PS5 PRO brings to the table. It's not worth the price imo.

mkis007178d ago

As they bring home record revenue lol.

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xenz177d ago

Sony stock price has surged with 30% the last 6 months. Just FYI

mkis007177d ago

Don't go to you for financial advice got it. You're the kind of guy who would say something obvious about finances and then something crazy would happen just so fate could make you wrong again.

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John Marston Voice Actor Teases "Exciting" Red Dead Redemption News

During a livestream on his personal Twitch channel, Rob Wiethoff (who voices John Marston in the Red Dead Redemption series) hinted at "exciting news" to be revealed next week. According to Wiethoff, the news will be announced "before Friday".

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jznrpg1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

PS5/Pro/Switch 2 version of RDR2 seems most likely. I’d love a RDR3 but that seems years away

Cacabunga1d 10h ago

Id be happy for just a 60fps patch

OmegaSoldati1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Agreed, but at the same time RD2 came out in 2018. Could it be a remake of Red Dead 1?

Spoiler:

Marston died in the end of Red Dead and Red Dead 2 is set before that. Im curious now. What news could it be?

mkis0071d 2h ago

I'm pretty sure the next game will be another prequel as the story really has no where to go as far as being a western after red dead redemption. The next game will end with the ferry boat incident.

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Their contracts are iron clas if they leak anything legit they are threatened with immense legal action.

My hopes for what this is are minimal its probably a meet and greet with the cast

I dont see why they would be involved in a upgraded version of rdr2 when the dialogue hasn't changed

thorstein1d 8h ago

He seems to have been cleared to do this as he purposely picked up the game, streamed it, and made the announcement.

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Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 devs praise games like Space Marine 2 for "lowering the barrier"

Warhammer 40,000: Boltgun 2 developers discuss the huge success of Space Marine 2 and its effect on the series as a whole.

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Jingsing4d ago

How about an official level editor for Boltgun?

jznrpg1d 11h ago

I’ll get Space Marine 2 when it’s cheaper. I don’t pay more than half price for short games.

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb4d ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek4d ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack4d ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor4d ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning774d ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX4d ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer19924d ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX4d ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer19924d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted4d ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast4d ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica4d ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand1254d ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer19924d ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole3d ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning774d ago (Edited 4d ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot074d ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen4d ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica4d ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer884d ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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