In Europe, 78% of Silent Hill 2 Copies Were Purchased on PS5

This data incorporates both physical and digital sales, although it doesn’t cover the entire continent; UK sales are excluded, for example. Still, it’s a good indication of how the game’s trending.

[Einhander1972]

PlayStation is still able to move software even as Microsoft tries to shift the industry to subscriptions.

[Obscure_Observer]

Well, Sony has it´s own subscription service which obviously also have an negative impact on PS software sales as we been seeing more and more publishers and developers skipping exclusive deals with the platform.

In it´s second week Silent Hill dropped from second place all the way down to thirty one in UK, and according to Konami, it sold over 1 million copies worldwide on both PC and PS5.

The original Silent Hill 2 sold 1 Million copies on PS2 alone with 20 Million units sold by that time in contrast with the PS5 which have 3x more units sold in comparison to PS2 in 2001, and still couldn´t even manage to sell 1 Million copies without the PC crowd worldwide.

Those are the facts, so feel free to look it up.

Now, you just said that MS is trying to shift the industry to subscriptions at the same time you say that MS will bring all of its first party games to get that sweet money from PS5 sales. Which one is it? You´re not making any sense, and contradicting yourself yet again.

You see? It´s not me putting words in your mouth, you´re just a confused fellow.

[Einhander1972]

PlayStation sold nearly 80%, it was PlayStation that was moving the software. And PlayStation isn't putting it's games on the service day one.

"Now, you just said that MS is trying to shift the industry to subscriptions at the same time you say that MS will bring all of its first party games to get that sweet money from PS5 sales."

It's both, they can both be trying to shift the industry to a subscription that isn't profitable and try to recoup money selling games on other platforms at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive things.

You keep calling me confused by using examples that aren't actually contradictory.

And that's not what I actually, said this is what I said: "We'll see where things go, -->hopefully<-- they will be forced to put everything on PlayStation." It's key to note that I am talking future tense, I didn't say they would bring all their games, I said HOPEFULLY they will be forced to put all their games on PlayStation.

So again you're purposely misinterpreting what I am saying to make it fit the narrative you are trying to put me into.

[Knushwood Butt]

So Silent Hill 2 sold 1 million copies on PS2 in TOTAL?

How many copies did it sell on XBOX?

[Obscure_Observer]

@Knushwood Butt

"How many copies did it sell on XBOX?"

About 280K.

Considering that Xbox only had 1 Million consoles sold by the time of SH2´s release on the platform vs 20 Million PS2 consoles sold, I say those numbers are quite impressive.

[Knushwood Butt]

Hmm, but all of those numbers are lifetime sales totals. That's not fair game to compare those lifetime numbers with the first week numbers for the remake.

[StoneTitan]

I dont know where to start with you there but everything you wrote is wrong. Damn dude

Silent hill 2 on ps2 sold over 1 million LIFETIME. Console of 150million units.
So get your facts straight omg

[Cacabunga]

PC gamers are more into multiplayer games. Console gamers are the ones who support thes games. I bought it om PS5 and i am loving it.

[Terry_B]

"You see? It´s not me putting words in your mouth, you´re just a confused fellow." ..that coming from you to someone else here on N4g is funny since you are the rolling gag on this site.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Knushwood Butt

"Hmm, but all of those numbers are lifetime sales totals. That's not fair game to compare those lifetime numbers with the first week numbers for the remake."

I´d just draw a comparison to show that games don´t sell as well as they used to in the pass, and that´s partially because of gaming services like Gamepass and PS Plus.

Like I said, the first two weeks are crucial for a game´s sale and determine if its a success or failure. Since Konami was celebrating SH2´s 1 Million plus copies, I believe their game had a successful launch.

[Chevalier]

Love the idiocy. Constantly mention Gamepass and Xbox like they're relevant when they're just not. Forget to mention that Gamepass has missed targets 3 years straight accordingly to Microsoft themselves and Xbox systems sales also sold less each of those 3 years too. Lol.

Remember how you claimed all these games would NEVER come to any other console? How did that go? They're desperately trying to expand their market because Gamepass and Xbox fail so much these franchises risk dying simply because no one buys them.

[Obscure_Observer]

"Forget to mention that Gamepass has missed targets 3 years straight accordingly to Microsoft themselves and Xbox systems sales also sold less each of those 3 years too. Lol."

The way you behave laughing like a maniac from horror B-movies, makes easy for me to assume that in your delusional mind you also believe in Microsoft when they said that Gamepass will be dead by 2026 if it don´t hit that 100 Million subscribers mark/goal, right? Right? And you have the nerve to talk about idiocy. Smh.

"Remember how you claimed all these games would NEVER come to any other console? How did that go?"

As certain as the rumors that Starfield, Hellblade II, Forza Horizon 5, Gears, Halo... among other Xbox first party games would be on Playstation by now. How did that go?

To put it into context, Spider-Man 2 saw it´s debut by the same release window as Starfield. Spider-Man 2 already have a release date on PC. Where´s Starfield for PS5, hu?

"They're desperately trying to expand their market because Gamepass and Xbox fail so much these franchises risk dying simply because no one buys them."

Rubish. All I see is NEW games from Xbox games studios.ALL NEW current gen AAA, AA, indie single player games! NEW RPGs, Racers, Adventure, Simulators, FPS, Action, RTS, Platformer, Dark Fantasy... we have it all those covered! And don´t even get me started on Third Party Day One content on Xbox.

In contrast, all I see from Sony is more of the same. More Ghost of, more Horizon, more Death Stranding, more Marvel, more GaaS, more Remasters, more Remakes, More PSVR 2...

Nah thank you. I rather stick with Xbox for the foreseeable future. To each its own, I guess?

[S2Killinit]

@Obscure
What if MS’s 1 million base bought 250K of Silent hill because they didnt have much else to play? And PS2 owners bought 1 million of Silent hill because it had competition? Hmmmm

Its so funny how many hoops you have to jump through to find a good way of analyzing things in a favorable way for xbox and MS.

Fact is, MS is trying to switch to streaming and by extension PCs (and according to themselves “anything with a screen”) that means NOT console future. A consoleless future is MS.
And PlayStation remains console focused. FACTS.

[Obscure_Observer]

@S2Killinit

"A consoleless future is MS. And PlayStation remains console focused. FACTS."

Facts? Are you high dude? A new next gen Xbox console will out before the PS6 gets an official announcement. Check your "facts".

[FPS_D3TH]

Ok so we are aboslutely free to look up those stats and looks like many did. I know with 100% certainty that you pulled that BS out of thin air without having to look. Not only are you wrong about the timeframe for the original games sales, it was 1 million LIFETIME sales, you’re making up stats to try and argue a moot point. The series hasn’t even sold 10 million copies as a whole until this remake. So where you get 20 million sold for silent hill 2 is literally a lie or idk, perhaps you’re a confused fellow?

What a meme you are on this site. Absolute Xbox defense force mode activated over a simple comparison only to make an embarassing post.

[Obscure_Observer]

@FPS_D3TH

So where you get 20 million sold for silent hill 2 is literally a lie or idk, perhaps you’re a confused fellow?

I said: "The original Silent Hill 2 sold 1 Million copies on PS2 alone with 20 Million units sold by that time in contrast with the PS5 which have 3x more units sold in comparison to PS2 in 2001"

You can´t even read properly, can´t you? 20 Million PS2 units sold by October 2001 vs PS5 60 Million (3x more) in October 2024.

Talk about embarrassment. Smdh.

We´re done here, kid.

[Babadook7]

@Obscure

"Considering that Xbox only had 1 Million consoles sold by the time of SH2´s release on the platform vs 20 Million PS2 consoles sold, I say those numbers are quite impressive."

Bad logic. Why use consoles sold during SH2 launch, when for silent hill 2 game sales you are using lifetime sales? An honest attach rate ratio would be lifetime for both console and game.

[Sharky231]

Ok so the majority of PlayStation titles on their subscription services are usually at least 8 -12 months from release. They tried Horizon forbidden west out on the service. Yes it killed a lot of sales. That’s why they wait until most of their games have flatlined on sales before going to ps+. Day and date like Xbox game pass is completely different.

[Einhander1972]

Silent Hill 2 Remake Is "By Far" The Fastest Selling Game In The Series
https://n4g.com/news/263393...

[FPS_D3TH]

Even if I did read the 20 million sales part wrong you’re still completely wrong about the timeframe for the 1 million LIFETIME sales.

Log off lil bro

[DivineHand125]

Why are you bringing up Microsoft when the discussion is about a PS5 console exclusive?

[Einhander1972]

Sorry, not sorry.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Einhander1972

"PlayStation sold nearly 80%, it was PlayStation that was moving the software."

Europe only* Either way, impressive feat nonetheless.

"And PlayStation isn't putting it's games on the service day one."

No, they´re not. Unfortunately Sony seems to believe that it´s better investment to port Spider-Man 2 to PC without Denuvo, making it easy and free for pirates to download and modders to do whatever they want with their game day one, rather than make it available to paying costumers at PS Plus.

At least on Gamepass we´re getting new and current gen first, second and third party games day one.

"It's both, they can both be trying to shift the industry to a subscription that isn't profitable and try to recoup money selling games on other platforms at the same time, they are not mutually exclusive things."

So they´re trying to shift the whole industry to subscription by not selling subscriptions by not making Gamepass available to everyone? So they´re trying to shift the whole industry to subscription by selling it´s games for the competition? How can they possible accomplish such goal by *selling games* to your competitors making return customers out them?

Your arguments doesn´t make any sense. Period

"So again you're purposely misinterpreting what I am saying to make it fit the narrative you are trying to put me into."

Hm... I though I read you say that Halo and Blade will play best on PS5 Pro. Couldn´t spot " hopefully" in your claims. And sorry, I don´t remember you saying *hopefully* MS will become a full third party publisher to Playstation either. But sure I might got you mistaken by someone else. /S

[Einhander1972]

I'm tired of going round and round with you saying the same crap no one agrees with.

Let me put it to you plainly.

Microsoft never wanted to put games on other platforms, but their dreams of having enough subscribers to pay for the upkeep of game pass failed. Then they spent 100b to buy a bunch of publishers there is zero chance they can maintain on game pass revenue. They have already had to close 4 studios and lay off around 5,000 people since they purchased Zenimax. But they can't give up on game pass, so they need to find other revenue streams.

Meanwhile their own console is failing, they are on track to go three years in a a row selling less consoles than the prior year and not by small margins (20-40+% not cumulative) all this is forcing them to move to multiplatform.

You can and probably will try to deny what I said, but that is what the majority of people think outside of xbox hardcore fanboys that are in absolute denial, even when Microsoft tells you guys something negative you guys don't believe it.

My argument makes sense it's just that you refuse to accept the truth, that's why you get downvoted so hard. And judging by how you keep misinterpreting what I am saying it's likely you don't even understand my argument to begin with.

Also don't take what I say as 100% literal every time, sometimes I say things that are joking or just a tease or metaphor or make a generalized statement.

Just like with lightning, I am not going to reply to you anymore, I'm just going to let the downvotes be my reply.

[Hofstaderman]

Dude you must be working for XBOX. Actual numbers do not lie. Actually surprised you have room to spin.... just buy a ps5 dammit. Consoles do succumb to their competitors. Thr parallels between XBOX and Dreamcast is very apparent only marred by XBOX dragging thrir feet making a formal announcement. Its over. Accept it and move on.

[BLow]

"Just like with lightning, I am not going to reply to you anymore, I'm just going to let the downvotes be my reply.""

This will be the best decision you ever made. Quit wasting your time and giving these guys attention. Most sane people see the writing on the wall. The numbers speak for themselves. I'll take real numbers over some random guy on the internet putting a spin on any and everything.

Save your energy for something more productive and positive. I can't wait for November 7th. Gaming is an expensive hobby and a privilege. We need to get back to enjoying games because if we stop supporting them, then our favorite hobby is going to fade away.

I truly believe that more people would actually enjoy a lot more games if they actually played them and not follow the sheep and follow the narrative.

I need to quit lol. You made the best decision and stick to it no matter how much you want to respond. Happy gaming people.

[just_looken]

@Einhander1972

I love this site you brag about one game getting sold great on one system as that is better that one company owning a large chunk of the overall gaming pie and saying yeah that micosoft man can't sell software there going that dum sub model.

Once again it seems people do not understand everyone in the world on a gaming setup has a few microsoft games in there library and that sub model is making alot of cash on pc/console even there windows software is making bank.

But i know guys sony making 10 billion in a year is better than micorosoft making that in 7 weeks.

[thesoftware730]

Wow, what a hot take!

You are very non-bias, and very objective, the way you bring MS into conversation every time for no apparent reason except to make them look bad is simply enthralling, it's in no way seeming like a broken record, fanboy drivel to make yourself and others like you feel some momentary high that you crave so much.

In reality, MS is doing what MS is doing and Sony is doing what Sony is doing..what I'm blue hell do you think MS is trying to make Sony go subscription based...what would they gain? They are currently selling games on PS...even if not by choice, them pushing Sony to be all digital is a stupid take, and of no benefit to MS at all.

[gold_drake]

this.
100%

[generic-user-name]

I just got out of the hospital, I'm loving it so far, stays faithful but adds enough to keep it fresh and the visuals are stunning.

There's 60m PS5s and 130m+ steam players, just goes to show, some markets are more valuable to devs than others, even if they're smaller.

[SockeyBoy]

I can't speak for other PC players, but I have a massive backlog and there is no way I'm paying full price for a remake.

[FPS_D3TH]

I too have an endless backlog but got it and beat the first playthru of it relatively quickly with an 18 hour run. That being said it’s certainly not cheap and if you can avoid spoiling the game for yourself then get it on a sale later. I was happy to pay full price hoping for more remakes after hearing it was really good but outside of different endings there’s not a ton of replayability imo.

[D2niceforu]

And no one should blame you. Not every game can be purchased day 1.

[just_looken]

Yeah i know its hard to imagine this probably scary but pc users can download the original game for free and or gog it for cheap then just mod it to what you just paid $60+ for.

But i get you are happy a closed box with 0 upgrade paths 0 right to repair is popular because you hate owning something that can be repaired.

23k for this version on steam btw
https://steamdb.info/app/21...

https://enhanced.townofsile...

[mkis007]

The upgrade path is literally just buy the next box for the cost of a gpu or less...I just bought a 4070ti super for about 100 bucks more than a ps5 pro. It's way more expensive to upgrade pc than console. There is 0 reason to upgrade a pc every year. This is my one and done comment on your post.

[just_looken]

@mkis007

You went overpriced team green and are talking about a gpu that has been overpriced sense day one.

How about we talk about a 6k series amd card on pc sense that is what is in a ps5?

You are also talking about buying a console every 6 years as a upgrade path?

So a launch ps3 all its features like backwards compaitbilty is worse than a ps5?

I would say each new console is a downgrade path heck even more now sense you lost disc drives next gen.

But hey people think every pc is $5,000 even though you can get the power of a ps5 for under $700

[Knightofelemia]

It's an actual solid remake done well I am enjoying it and I hope Konami decides to remake another SH game. Also the game is exclusive to PS5 for a year so that also helps out the sales as well. I would have grabbed it on PC but my PC can't run the game.

[JEECE]

Not a surprise at all after hearing the launch sales numbers (1 million in four days) and seeing the steam concurrents (topped out at 24k).

[ActualWhiteMan]

Well. No sensible PC player is going to pay full price when we have 1000’s of other games to play. We can wait for Steams winter sale.

[Knushwood Butt]

Well. No sensible PS5 player is going to pay full price when we have 1000’s of other games to play. We can wait for Playstation's winter sale.

[just_looken]

LMAO PlayStation 5 now has the same game database as steam?

Knushwood Butt is getting praise for saying a PlayStation 5 and a 15+ year database of pc games yeah there the same man n4g so special.

[JL2930]

That's why devs give PC half assed ports, SH2 is a good example.

All the money is made on console.

[Puty]

On Xbox it sold 0%
Game over, Microsoft. 😎

[sagapo]

It didn’t release on xbox

[BehindTheRows]

That’s………the joke.

[BeHunted]

Sony desperately bribing devs to skip Xbox. I know it's console Time Exclusive but I'm enjoying Silent Hill 2 on PC with Mods.

[BehindTheRows]

So, Microsoft is bribing devs to keep STALKER 2 off PlayStation, right? Tell us more!

[just_looken]

@BehindTheRows

All you half to do is look at tomb raider cod or harry potter back in the day sony paid for temp exclusivity or special dlc to help with dev cost.

But i know sony is a angel 0 wrong's over there.

[BehindTheRows]

All I have to also do is look at all the other moneyhats companies did throughout the years, Microsoft included, and see that this isn't one company's problem.

No one said Sony was an angel. You just singled them out for things every other company has done and that shows a clear agenda and why you're not in a position to have this discussion realistically.

[D2niceforu]

and oddly enough only 1M sold copies sounds horrible... 130M PCs and 60M PS5s.

[P_Bomb]

Don’t go by install base. According to Konami in 2018, the series sold 9 million since 1999. It’s always been a bit niche. A million in 3 days is a record.

[Hofstaderman]

Why more and more games are skipping XBOX.

[husomc]

Xbox players are just waiting for it to come to xbox live

[badz149]

you mean GamePass?

[8bitAssassin]

Gamers want good and varied games. A carnivore does not change it's diet overnight. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[Terry_B]

No surprise.

[CrimsonWing69]

This is probably a good example of why you can’t just gauge a game’s success by Steam numbers.

[BehindTheRows]

That depends on the game. WuKong sold 20 million on Steam alone, for example.

[fsfsxii]

Pc gamers spend their money on counter strike knife skins lmao, thank god the Playstation ecosystem is around to actually reward different games and ventures.

[anast]

Ouch

[Kekewei]

China is the main reason for the rise of PC, playstation is still king outside of Asia