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Microsoft asks why devs are skipping Xbox, but the answer seems obvious

With the PS5 clearly winning this generation over the Xbox, it means more people are investing in their digital libraries on the PlayStation platform. Unless people are willing to ditch their digital games and start fresh on a new platform, the gap will continue to widen in future generations

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thorstein254d ago

75% of Xbox Series owners bought the S.

Modern gamers want what the X, PS5, and PCs can handle.

This isn't rocket science.

jznrpg254d ago

+ Xbox has a declining base and most of them rely on GamePass instead of buying games. Add it all up and you get business decisions

343_Guilty_Spark254d ago

Why is SE bringing FF back to Xbox?

Hotpot254d ago

@343 because of the brand name, and because they can handle the financial risk if it fails.

But when we talk about medium to small sized studios, oftentimes when they release game it's their studios fate on the line. They have to weigh carefully whether or not the resource spent worth the potential profit they'll get when porting to a platform.

In fact, there are lots of example of games releasing on 1 or 2 platform first to see gamers' receptions before porting it to another platform. Naturally when choosing that first few platform XB is wayy down the line especially if it's not on game pass.

sokisa253d ago (Edited 253d ago )

FFXVI didn't sell great on Steam so, I am not sure why they would care about Xbox sales.

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wesnytsfs253d ago

@343_Guilty_Spark, Because its financially stupid to not sell AAA games on multiple platforms. Square was not making their money back on the games with just Playstation releases.

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GamerRN254d ago

If Xbox doesn't knock it out of the park next console/handheld, I think it's game over...

Cacabunga254d ago

Not possible when their games release everywhere

IRetrouk254d ago

There isn't gonna be another console, atleast, not a traditional one.

SolidBoss816253d ago

Console wise maybe but they will not completely disappear from gaming especially with all those studios they acquired.

GamerRN253d ago

@IRetrouk

I'm hoping they release a console PC hybrid, but not just a reference. If they actually do a subsidized PC Console Hybrid, I will be ecstatic!

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Michiel1989254d ago

then why did 75% get the S? contradicting yourself right away
and no, you don't get to say because they bought the S so they aren't a modern gamer, cause then i can just call everyone who doesn't build their own pc for 3k+ a casual gamer and base my argument around that.

GamerRN253d ago

You make a valid point, hence the Sony disagrees...

n1kki6254d ago

Clearly they don't if 75% of people bought the S. Do you have a source for the stat?

thorstein253d ago (Edited 253d ago )

Good question.

Here you go

https://n4g.com/news/256754...

GamerRN253d ago

@Thor

I think you missed the point...

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Tacoboto254d ago

The power difference between Series S and X is secondary to Microsoft's terrible communication and inability to have any consistent expectations.

MS said Series S was a 1440p 60fps machine. Wrong.
MS had Halo Infinite running at 120fps in the beta on Series S. That mode was taken out until it returned a year later.
Last gen games couldn't run in their best form on the new gen Series S.
All this RDNA2 talk, but no first-party examples taking advantage of the feature set.
Unoptimized SDKs at launch.
Day One Game Pass launches, but no big first party games for the entirety of 2022 and first half of 2023.
And now, it's impossible to know which games of theirs will end up on what platforms.

They shot themselves in both feet with their absolute lack of confidence in their own platform. Why develop for Xbox when Xbox is developing for PS and Switch, and making Steam the best storefront to buy their games on PC with improved support for mods and such?

Lightning77254d ago

The clown show over at MS. The inconsistency and uncertainty over at MS needs to be studied it's insane and s bit comical How can they have not have a clue how to run things.

Sarcasm254d ago

It all started with Mattrick, and went downhill from there. It's pretty wild how much they stumbled since the Xbone and never truly recovered.

neomahi254d ago

Trying to make everyone happy doesn't ever work. But that's a woke/liberal company out of a woke/liberal state, using woke/liberal minds in woke/liberal business practices. You're never going to make everyone happy. Create your vision, build your business plan and just go with it. Stop trying to stretch yourself thin in so many areas to try to make people happy. All people want and crave, since we were a year old is consistency, that's it. Xbox tried to please everyone and it backfired. Nintendo and Sony said "this is our vision" and stuck to it, never veered. Nintendos done it forever and even though PS5 is blowing up in Sonys face, they've made the decision and moving forward anyway. They're not stopping and trying to backpeddle or change things to reinvent. No, they're moving forward with it anyway. That's how Nintendo does, they see it through and on the next gen console cycle try again. They don't stop and try to reinvent the wheel there, they take that learning experience and then learn from it and it always comes out better the next time. Xbox are trying to cater to too many people, you're never gonna make everyone happy, it's not possible

Christopher254d ago (Edited 254d ago )

1. Lowest market reach
2. Majority of audience is on weakest console hardware
3. Most publishers are not on board with subscription gaming except if they can get more money from MTX/DLC down the road when full sales have declined greatly

Walalon254d ago

Nice summary, they are probably more points to that but that's the harsh reality of Xbox these days.

Eonjay254d ago

Totally agree on number 1. Money is king. They are going to focus on platforms that offer the greatest returns. This is really basic and simple.

Knightofelemia254d ago

As a publisher or a developer you are into it to make money back just like any business. Microsoft after the XB360 has been going down hill. They are dead last in sales, developers have to nerf their game to run on the Series S, Microsoft can't figure out what to do with the Xbox brand. They just finally released an all digital Series X which is really late to the party. I'm sorry but if I were a developer or publisher I would skip the Xbox flood the market on PC, PS5, and the Switch if it can handle the game. I honestly don't regret selling my Series X.

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Shift Up once again proves that they appreciate their team, as they have just rewarded their developers with new Nintendo Switch 2s to celebrate the Stellar Blade sales reaching 3 million.

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Sony PS5 Era Profits Soar Past $13 Billion, Outpacing All Prior PlayStation Generations

Sony’s PS5 era has generated over $13 billion in profits, surpassing the combined earnings of PS1–PS4, with $136 billion in sales.

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lukasmain10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Their recent Playstation revenue is also more than Xbox and Switch combined, obviously in large part due to 3rd party sales.

Christopher10h ago

I mean, if Sony is keeping third parties happy, kind of feels like a winning method.

IRetrouk6h ago

Kinda always been that way if you look at previous gens, exclusives are important but they aint the main revenue generator.

Reaper22_5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

.While that is impressive. Microsoft made 13 billion in one quarter. Making up facts doesn't make them true.

Mmmkay5h ago

microsoft is not xbox. a bot should know that by now. you have been told this bs 1000 times on this site alone.

OlderGamer172h ago

Yeah Microsoft but Xbox on the other hand.....

Aloymetal2h ago

Your defense of Microsoft is only highlighting Lord Phil's and the lame MS mismanagement. Since you're talking about MS as a whole, imagine having trillions in the bank and still losing to ''tiny'' Sony PS and Ninty. It doesn't get any more lame than that.

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thorstein3h ago

I prefer Playstation over Xbox when it comes to consoles but how does this news justify their layoffs?

Shane Kim3h ago

But the execs brother. You got to think about them. How could they otherwise buy yet another mansion and yacht?

raWfodog1h ago

People are generally paid for the work they are doing. Layoffs generally occur when there is no work for them to do (project cancelled, business slowing down, etc). I’ve been laid off from two jobs during my 40+ years of working so I know about these things. A company is not going to just keep paying people if there is no work for them to do, no matter how much profits they made.

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MIDGETonSTILTS176h ago

And this is why the game output for ps5 has been a tad slower…

1) they needed to be… games take longer to develop, and they’d burn out their teams trying to maintain the same pace as ps3.

2) they can afford to… games cost more than ever to push boundaries, so Sony had to figure out a way to match Xbox’s clever profit strategies in order to afford to continue to innovate and take risks.

lukasmain1h ago

So much time was wasted on those Live Service shits. Glad they learned their lesson and have scaled that way back. Still haven't killed it, but I like it being in the background and not at the forefront

Reaper22_5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

@ s2killinit

Thats xbox which includes other services. The playstion division also includes other services as well. Its mostly playtion but not all playstation. What's up with all the double standards around here.

Chevalier4h ago

Yeah double standards like some idiots who got to talk about unrelated profits as a talking point. Wish those damn parrots could stay on topic with game related profits.

Next thing these idiots will talk about is something unrelated like Nintendo made more off the Mario movie than all of Xbox studios TV/movie endeavors combined you know?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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Deathdeliverer4h ago

@Chevalier

Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number.

“The sales of windows professional on the other hand trounces god of war sales” 😂

Reaper22_2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is. Tencent is no.1 in profits. Buts that's ok because unlike Tencent and Microsoft, Sony isn't in it for the money, right.🤔

pwnmaster30001h ago

That’s what Xbox fanboys do. They’ve been doing this since Xbox one.

They will use all of MS, one of the biggest company in the world and play it like every dollar they earn comes from Xbox just to one up PlayStation.
Is actually pretty sad.

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Chevalier3h ago

"Mind you that’s only AFTER buying all those other companies adding them to the revenue. It was a LOT lower. This is Activision, Bethesda, and others COMBINED to get that number."

Guys we're off topic here you know? Can someone bring us back on topic and tell us how much revenue Xbox studios does for movies and TV? Pretty sure we should also discuss how much Nintendo stands to make at Universal studios on Nintendo land and the rides should be a hot ticket this summer.

"Ouch! hahaha no wonder reaper wanna hide behind profits made by windows XD"

Yeah idiots with some sort of inferiority complex needs to get their win somewhere though. But wait shouldn't we get back on topic guys? Like seriously how much money do you think Fallout Season 2 will bring in?!

Chevalier2h ago

"All you did was prove that you dont know what revenue is."

Nah all you did was confirm you're an idiot.

Reaper22_10m ago(Edited 9m ago)

You seem to be fluent in idiocy. Not everyone speaks it. So next time speak slowly and clearly so we all can understand. Getting emotional doesn't really make you smarter. Before you post a link with info make sure you know what it says.🫡

Npugz74h ago

Only because of games prices otherwise it’s the worst generation in PlayStation history especially for games

Reaper22_4h ago

Thats true. The article did mention game and prices were a reason. Its also shows their greed is no different than Microsoft. Laying off all those people but yet bragging about profits and still tried to stop ABK deal. What the hell!

MatrixxGT4h ago

Closing studios, layoffs, leadership changes, PS plus increases, multiple game cancellations and delays, total flops like concord. Slowest release of first party games of any generation and they just shut down PS stars I guess because it was costing to much.
Yet they announce record profits…..the greed here is insane, MS and Nintendo too. All of them milking gamers and we just keep lapping it up like a blood hound for a meal.
Them tariffs are really hitting them hard I see.

Deathdeliverer3h ago

Well a part of running a business is a tight grip on that P&L sheet. In project management. It’s a known fact that the farther into a project you go, the more costly the corrections. Having something reach the definition of done, the end of the road, and it’s hated is a monumental loss of money. As games are usually made iteratively it’s like how was this not caught and course corrected several times before this point. Sony is definitely known as trusting and allows teams to make the games they want to make. They “trust the process”. The caveat to that big budget and freedom is if it bombs, especially if it’s your first game, you’re outta there. They have shareholders/stakeholders to keep happy. Where as normally a done game like Concord would give ROI as it was out in the wild. The cost of the project is recouped and turned into profit or delivered whatever value they wanted. If the game is now NOT coming out, how do they get that money back and stay profitable? By not paying wages for that team over a course of time that would have still been on payroll working on the next potential bomb, DLC for a dead game, and essentially costing more money.
It sadly isn’t greed, it’s business. They release these great profits because 1) it’s enticing for more stakeholders to invest, and 2) Despite failures they are still balancing the books and turning record setting profits.
How many live service games died at various stages of development? They are still this profitable? Imagine if the games came out and were hits to add onto the profits?

Vithar4h ago

where are the "Sony is in trouble" sayers? LOL

Chevalier3h ago

They're talking about Microsoft quarterly profits like any true gamer would be doing.

Aloymetal2h ago

Oh, that's coming, it's a mandatory thing just wait for next gen and you'll see infinite articles from the shills and the green fanbase saying ''tHiS GeN WiL Be dIfFerEnT''

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PlayStation The Concert Announces U.S.Tour Dates

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