Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition Scrapped To Make Way For Remaster, Requiring a PSN Account

The Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition is now unable to be purchased on Steam, prompting players to purchase the remaster instead.

[Tacoboto]

"...they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?"

Jim Ryan's impact is still deep within PS Publishing. I don't know why they have this hatred for their legacy that they'd rather rebuild everything from before 2020 than simply honor it as it was.

Unless it's Bloodborne, that can stay a 30fps jitterfest.

[gold_drake]

yeh the Jim Ryan thing immediately came to mind.

[Vits]

Sony really seems intent on inflating their user numbers to look better for their shareholders, don’t they? The original version is DRM-free, available globally, and, based on comparisons, it’s not significantly worse than the remaster. Yet they still try to push the PSN nonsense on new buyers with quite literally gives nothing to the user and locks a good chunk of the market out of the game.

[Tacoboto]

Ironic huh?

Two years ago, people were spreading fud about Microsoft taking away games from other platforms.

Instead - the reality today is that Sony is taking away their own games from their own players.

[Rude-ro]

Microsoft was first to require pay to play online.
Microsoft was last to do crossplay.
Microsoft was first to force crossplay between their console players and pc players.
Microsoft was first to push a Microsoft account to play on pc.
Microsoft lead the third party contracts of exclusivity.

Sony… want a free account of psn to play their games, like an already existing standard of third party developers like ea, Ubisoft, Microsoft….
And they lost their way.

Must really suck being that blind.

[Tacoboto]

So what you're saying is... Sony's becoming more like the Microsoft and EA you claim. What a great prospect!

Edit: Forgot to add - Even all three of MS, EA and Ubisoft are learning not to force logins in their latest Steam releases.

[PRIMORDUS]

Can't take away torrents of games now can they LOL. Sorry but I'm not spending money on games that can be pulled from stores I'll just take it. I won't make a difference but I know my $$ is not going to them.

[Christopher]

Yeah, there's definitely no way both companies could do shit stuff. Only one.

Honestly, this generation has been a shit show from practically every major publisher.

[Rude-ro]

@tacoboto

A person can not play on windows pc without a microsoft account. Period.
And Microsoft counts this as a Xbox gaming scenario.

It is in the code of their operating system and tied to steam.

They very much require you to sign up even though it is disguised.

It is 100% mandatory.

[Jingsing]

Not about inflating PSN numbers, it is about piracy. Have you looked at how popular Sony games are on pirate flag waving sites? The number far outweighs what they sell on Steam or Epic. Will it lead to even more piracy? probably. But Sony dug this hole themselves.

[Jingsing]

@PRIMORDUS
"Can't take away torrents of games now can they LOL. Sorry but I'm not spending money on games that can be pulled from stores I'll just take it. I won't make a difference but I know my $$ is not going to them."

I basically stopped buying PS5 games early in this generation because of their PC strategy. Why am I going to pay $70 for a game if I can get them free on my PC. If a company can't protect a customers purchase then I'm not going to buy.

[Vits]

If this were about piracy, they would be adding Denuvo or some other form of powerful DRM, not a PSN requirement that is so flimsy in execution that people can mod it out.

This is 100% about inflating PSN numbers. PSN numbers are a known KPI reported to investors. You know what isn’t? Piracy conversion or avoidance. Sony is not a small operation; their focus lies in what their investors care about, and they care about growth.

[isarai]

God PlayStation is so lame compared to what it used to be. I really hope the change in leadership starts showing change in this kind of bs soon

[badz149]

Yeah. Releasing on PC is super lame!

[MDTunkown]

The new guy was hyping concord and was telling to buy the devs of that game

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Back in the 90s, if you had told me that Playstation would turn out like this, I just wouldn't believe you, how the mighty have fallen!

[Bathyj]

Is this not to avoid redundancy so anyone buying the game is getting the remaster? Seems like it to me. That's had better include Frozen Wilds but.

The psn account is a separate issue so cry about that if you want but seriously whining about not being able to buy a game you had 6 years to do so and didn't? Fkn gamers now days shit me

[Nitrowolf2]

I mean, not all remakes/remasters are improvements, case and point, the Until Dawn Remake which is a buggy, broken mess on both PC and PS5.

Some people prefer the original over the new, other the new over the original. Some are limited by hardware, and whole they've had plenty of time to buy, may now be forced to upgrade because they can't play a version that could have worked on their system just fine.

Personally I think it's dumb to take options away, especially since the original was playable in basically every region Steam sold on, and now the remake isn't.

[PRIMORDUS]

But the torrent is still there it will never go away only less seeds LOL. Plus no PSN account shit needed.

[badz149]

Why are you promoting piracy here? You hate the maker, so you steal their products and gloat about it and encourage others to do so too?

[PRIMORDUS]

Yes I will teach anyone who's interested lol. If buying is not owning pirating is not stealing. And I make that a point by posting the torrent links on Sony's twitter account, until I get banned, then make another one etc 😂. What's wrong here is when you buy a game you should have game the downloaded and saved on your drive maybe in a ISO format. Then if it gets pulled you still have it and can play it. I'm not fine with spending $60+ on a game, only to say now you have to play this remaster, no I don't want to play it or upgrade to it. Every year I buy less and less PC games, next year might be none.

[fsfsxii]

He’s N4G’s resident autist, pay him no attention.

[wiegraf]

Copying is not theft

[badz149]

"What's wrong here is when you buy a game you should have game the downloaded and saved on your drive maybe in a ISO format."

Which service or launcher offer this kind of perk? Steam? GoG? EGS? MS? Nintendo? Or are you just making an excuse to pirate?

@wiegraf

Copyright law and IP protection law exist for that reason.

[Extermin8or3_]

@Primordus wow I think we found the retard guys. ",if buying id not owning then pirating isn't stealing" ok so because you pay a fee to rent an apartment but don't own it, living there for free isnt stealing" please try and make these arguments in court it would be hilarious.

News flash: you have technically never owned a game or film or music you purchased be it digitally or a physical copy. You own a licence to use that media that is all. Under certain circumstances they have always been within their rights to withdraw your access to their software.

[JEECE]

Everyone when this remaster was announced: We don't need this! It's a waste of time! Everyone who wanted HZD has already bought it!

Everyone now: They took down the old version of HZD! That's unacceptable! I was totally going to buy HZD on PC in three years! How dare they!

[MDTunkown]

Not every country has PSN so to them the old version was playable but not the new one. Also some people maybe prefer the older one for colours or because it will run better on old hardware.
So how will you cover Sony now ?

[JEECE]

I don't disagree with any of your points, nor am I covering for Sony. I'm pointing out that people on here make inherently inconsistent criticisms all the time.

[90sGamingWasBetter]

If you want to play this game open a PSN account, if you don't want to open a PSN account don't play the game, simples. 🤷‍♂️
Sony don't care about your feelings and they'll survive without your custom.

[z2g]

So is Sony’s strategy to just keep re-releasing the same games over and over? Real talk: the ps5 generation has been fairly disappointing compared to ps4 and before. Getting tired of just getting new versions of the same games, while actual good NEW games are few and far between. I can only get the excited about tlou, uncharted and hzd so many times before I just want something else to come around.

[Games_People_Play]

I noticed this myself last night, don’t upgrade, the $10 cost comes with a catch.

[DazaMc]

What was stopping you from buying it before this happened?

[PRIMORDUS]

@badz149 Remember when PC games were on CD/DVDs? You had the whole game after you bought it, can do what you want with it, make a ISO (remove protection) and keep it on your drive if you wanted. I have lots of bought PC games on disc, from years ago, and they will never be taken away or pulled from stores. It's giving control now to these devs/publishers when you buy a game it can be taken down or you need to go online just for single player is bullshit. Yes, we need an option for games as I said in ISO format when you buy them from stores like Steam, Epic, etc you can saved that ISO and keep it, so if it gets taken down it won't matter you have it.

[JEECE]

GOG

[PRIMORDUS]

I forgot GOG lets you do that. Now we need every online store to follow GOG, buy it save the game to your drive it's yours to keep period. They do that, it would be a huge win for us, and I will probably buy more then 1 or 2 PC games a year.