NPD Analyst Addresses Claims That PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Haven't Sold Out

NPD analyst Matt Piscatella has addressed earlier claims regarding pre-orders for the upcoming PS5 Pro not being sold out.

[shadowT]

high price

[the worst]

LOW PRICE BUM

[VenomUK]

Mat Piscatella rebuked Tom Warren at the Verge for his salacious tweet that presented the PS5 Pro being available to purchase as some kind of failure for Sony.

[meganick]

You certainly live up to your name.

[CrimsonIdol]

Interesting account. Posts a few comments every year or two just to rage and sling inane insults and Sony fanboy nonsense, but dates back over 15 years. Who's alt account is it? 🤔

[Babadook7]

LOL

[TheEroica]

You are definitely the worst... I'll know who to thank next gen when consoles start at 700 bucks and go up from there. Twat.

[InUrFoxHole]

@CrimsonIdol
That's hilarious 😂. That's boss level trolling 🧌 right there.

[Profchaos]

Then I guess you want to shout your mates one to and all your family since it's so cheap to you

[VenomUK]

@meganick Thank you.

@crimsonidol I’m real. Sometimes I’m serious, sometimes I’m playful. Some years back I made vids - (not a big audience but I loved making them). I do make criticisms of fake or broken journalism. And enjoy all platforms.

[CrimsonIdol]

@VenomUK not you haha, "the worst". Sorry I should have been more clear. You've had some fair takes as far as I can tell. Certainly not inane anyway.

Edit: Or is this you saying "the worst" is your troll account?

[robtion]

High price and lack of a disc drive made it a no go for me. I have quite a few physical ps4 and 5 games already. Why would I want a console that can't play them.

[Kekewei]

Actually happy if it's the high price that scare off scalpers. I'd rather pay extra money to Sony than to scalpers, thinking about it...

[neutralgamer1992]

Buy it if you want and play it why insult others. This isn’t the same PlayStation anyway they have become full of themselves and arrogant like around PS3 launch

Full of remasters and remakes and going all in on live service games. This is the Sony that will make a horizon MP game but won’t make Killzone, resistance or socom

[Solitariussaint]

I'm not buying a PS5 with a detachable disk drive. Sony better get it together for PS6, I want the disk drive to be standard as always.

[fr0sty]

I think that's a dumb approach.... not everyone wants a disc based console, and if they can offer a cheaper digital only option, it's cheaper on them to not have to manufacture two different SKUs when they can enable you to upgrade the digital model to a disc based model instead. It makes better business sense for both them and the consumer.

[DarXyde]

I think having a backwards compatible console without a disc drive as standard is a dick move.

But that's just me.

[-Foxtrot]

The issue is because of company greed that discless option might not end up cheaper to us. They’ll skyrocket the price of a disc drive and physical disc based owners will end up being shafted.

Physical should always be put first and if it means having two SKU’s then be it.

It’s different for mid gen consoles or even slimmer versions but the base consoles should feature a disc drive version from the get go.

[the worst]

ANOTHER CRY-BABY

[HansyJ]

So his approach is dumb, but yours isn’t? So the approach of giving people who are absolutely in the minority a non-CD drive console? And make the majority of everyone else pay even more lol what’s the point of that that’s stupid

[fr0sty]

@hansy, you have it wrong. Including the disc drive is going to cost more to produce, which is why they sell the digital only console cheaper. So, by forcing everyone to buy a disc based console, those who don't need discs are forced to pay more. By giving the option of adding one, those who want a disc drive still pay what they otherwise would have for a disc based console, but those who don't need to are not forced to buy the disc drive. Sony also doesn't have to spend more money developing and testing 2 different console SKUs, one with a drive and one without, so it's a win/win for everyone. That's why it's dumb to oppose giving players the choice.

[darthv72]

Well isnt that interesting.... When MS first introduced a digital only alongside their disc based system... you'd think they were the monster with all the people coming at them with pitchforks at the ready. It did NOT matter that the disc system was right there for all to see.... it was the digital only that people saw and were mad as hell about it existing.

Now that Sony has offered a similar approach... its no big deal because "not everyone wants a disc based console". This is the perfect example of the double standard in this hobby. And it also shows the bias of certain platforms that people have. those who oppose XB will look at everything that platform does in disgust and proclaim their preferred platform as the way to go. And then when their preferred platform does the same damn thing... its all rosey and cheery and everyone should just accept that.

BULLSHIT!

If you are a fan of digital... fine, be a fan of digital. BUT be a fan of it across the board. Same goes for physical, be a fan of it across the board. No singling out one or the other because of brand loyalty. People are either for it or against it, there is no in-between. And if it means having to switch brands because of such ideas then so be it. Your first loyalty should be to yourself, not some corporation who does not give a crap about you. all they want is your $$.

[fr0sty]

Except... Sony isn't offering a "similar" approach, THAT is bullshit. Sony is offering digital and disc based consoles with the ability to upgrade one to the other, so that if you decide later you do want a disc based console, you don't have to buy a whole other console... or if your drive dies, you can just buy a new one and install it in seconds. The fact that people are mad that Sony is making it easier to switch from digital to disc is mind numbing... some people just love to complain.

[lukasmain]

Darth, it's not the same at all. You're dead wrong. Frosty said it best

[ocelot07]

@darthv72

I remember that well. I criticised it at the time. Not because it was digital. But because of how late in the day it was for Xbox one it was like a year or two before series x. Also the price was silly it was only £30-50 cheaper depending where you got it from.

It is also not the same as what sony are doing. Sony did well here is a cheaper digital only playstation. Here is one with a disc drive for £100 more. That's a nice choice to have. They then went one better. Here is a slim ps5 with no drive here is one with a drive. Oh but you are unsure what to go with. Get the digital and you can buy a disc drive attachment at a later date that's great!

I personally think they went a step better. Here is a pro it's a bit expensive no disc drive. But you can attach one at a later date if you want. Plus look at the crap people are giving the pro already. The haters would go into a coma of false outrage if Sony announced one with a disc drive for £800.

[andy85]

@darth yeah but you can't add a drive to it, and it was at a premium price. Barely less than the Pro with the same internals as the original only with more storage.

[Neonridr]

including something that can be bought separately and attached to the device isn't exactly asking them to complicate the production line. All this does is ensure Sony makes as much money as possible by nickeling and diming you for every accessory. Need a stand? That's $30. Want a disc drive? That's another $80.

[Eonjay]

How about you buy it separately so the rest of us that don't want it don't have to pay for it. Or just don't get it at all. Its not like you can Karen up a manager to make you a disc bundle simply because you won't buy it. Also, I actually really like that its detachable because if it goes bad, you don't lose the whole console!

[fr0sty]

That is another fantastic reason for a detachable disc drive... Especially since both my Ps1 and PS2 were bricked by failing disc drives.

[INMATEofARKHAM]

fr0sty, you can buy replacement drives fairly cheap.

[fr0sty]

And you have to take the console apart to repair it, not everyone has the technical knowledge to pull that off. Offering a detachable drive that plugs in with a single cable is far more user friendly.

[TheNamelessOne]

So the already overpriced console is actually better because the thing I already should have might break down, and that actually saves me money if the thing that's supposed to work breaks. The defense of this thing is unreal. A mid-gen upgrade that doesn't take into account that you'll probably have disc based games. That's extra.

[NotoriousWhiz]

^ Yes. Having something that is detachable is better than having something that isn't.

[ocelot07]

Wow selfish ain't you? Sony is doing something incredible by giving people the choice and you want them to go back to the status quo force people into things they might not want?

They did the customers great at the start. Cheaper digital console or more expensive with a disc drive. They still offer this now. With the pro they are just changing it slightly. Here is a digital console. But it you want a disc drive you can pay extra and attach it as well. Wtf is wrong with that?

[crazyCoconuts]

I'll tell you what... I'll sell you one with a disk drive attached for just $25 more.
If you don't want it to be detachable, I'll super glue it for another $5.

[badboyz09]

"so U want burga soda no friez😑"

Imagine if fast food chains started charging full price for combos with no sides.

[crazyCoconuts]

You didn't have to imagine... The price of a Big Mac has increased by 20% in just 5 years.
Inflation impacts nearly everything

[the worst]

GOOD

[jukins]

Then you're FORCED to pay extra. What's the difference whether it's an option or not? Like ppl who bought digital at launch are now stuck having to buy a whole new console should they have the need. Detachable is better on the long run streamlines production and still gives an option. Guarantee it will be the same for ps6. At this point digital is at a 80/20 ratio. So catering to physical is catering to minority and that never happensb

[kayoss]

Let’s look at this in a different perspective. Sony has all the data regarding digital gamers vs physical disc gamers. Right now, it is reported that 83% of gamers are digital gamers vs 17% physical disc gamers. I’m a physical disc gamer, but like or not, we are now the minority. Sony knows this and are making disc drive as an option because it will make the console cheaper.
The only gripe I have with digital gaming is, “why are the games the same price as physical disks?”

[Chevalier]

@Darth72

"Well isnt that interesting.... When MS first introduced a digital only alongside their disc based system... you'd think they were the monster with all the people coming at them with pitchforks at the ready. It did NOT matter that the disc system was right there for all to see.... it was the digital only that people saw and were mad as hell about it existing."

Wait can the Xbox get a disc drive attachment later to open up more options later?! Oh wait it can NOT. So sit down because you're argument is absolutely 💯 idiotic. It's not even comparable. Series X special edition is only a $100 less than a mid gen upgrade so just think about that. Playstation at least you can get a disc attachment whereas Xbox you are LOCKED in to digital ONLY. It's literally comparing Apples and Oranges

[Gamingsince1981]

I agree with all your points but "it's literally comparing apples to oranges" because if it was literal, that would mean they are actually fruit, one being an apple and one being an orange.

[CornholioX]

You're gonna be disappointed if the PS6 is pure digital. They aren't forever, as VHS, DVD and one day Blu-ray. I like physical too but installing games like 150 to 200GB take at least 2 hours to install. No new disk drives will not be made and there's no disks made over 100GB, not even 8K blu ray players doesn't exist.

Mark my words, next gen will be digital. If you want backwards compatible to work, then go digital.
Or can be possible with disk drives seperate but no PS6 games with physical copies.

[pwnmaster3000]

Honestly I thought it would sell out, but apparently ps4 pro didn’t sell out and that was a more popular console.

So I guess I’m not surprise.

Ive been debating weither or not on getting a pro but since it is not in demand I can wait.

[90sGamingWasBetter]

I'll wait for official numbers to be released.

[COS]

This is what lack of competition breeds, higher prices

[Grievous]

Sold out: Sony had limited quantities available, paper launch bla bla bla
Not sold out: Nobody wants one

[TheKingKratos]

High price in USA and An even higher price in the rest of the world ... No Disc Drive and no stand and the difference is graphics is marginal at best and even in some games it looks worse for the higher fps

It was not needed at all

Ps6 after few years is where things will actually matter.

[Profchaos]

In the article it states the PS4 pro wasn't hard to get either I agree on launch day I went into the store and picked one up these are just systems that give nicer graphics you can still enjoy the ps5 and it's games without a pro but if you want the pro is available and that's what it is just an option not a requirement.

Tired of people taking extreme stances either for or against just treat it like an option it's not like the Sega cd or something that locks out users from playing a game like sonic cd it's just some nicer effects for the few people who chose to plop down a fat stack of cash for it

[gold_drake]

ok?

was the 4 pro immediately sold ouf?
i swear, these analysts also jump onto the next biggest most talked about thing and give their unsolicited opinion

[TheCaptainKuchiki]

He deactivated his twitter account?