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Why the “GTA 6 60 FPS on PS5 Pro” Debate Doesn’t Make Sense

Even before Sony releases its mid-gen console refresh, players are concerned over whether it could handle Rockstar's next title.

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darthv72242d ago

I feel 60fps is going to be better suited for the XB5 / PS6. both of which should have much more efficient CPU in addition to accompanying GPU prowess. So, like previous GTA games, you are better off playing them on the next iteration of the hardware. Series X / PS5 Pro are going to be lacking.

--Onilink--242d ago

I will be really surprised if GTA6 is 60fps on the Pro.

Its not like the game already came out and they just need to dedicate some extra time for the port.

At this point they are all hands on deck and probably already crunching just to complete the game, and I wouldnt even be surprised if its delayed since they have no issues to keep pushing the release date until they are sure its ready.

60fps in most games needs to be consideration from the very beginning or we end up with lackluster modes and Rockstar have proven time and time again that they design their games for 30fps first and they will no doubt will have been developing with the base model in mind.

Maybe a 40fps mode would be more likely (and a rather welcome addition), with the 60fps and probably reworked visuals left for the inevitable PS6 remaster we all know will happen

fr0sty241d ago

They did delay it until 2026.

--Onilink--241d ago

@fr0sty

They haven’t. There’s been a lot of rumours (coming from ex-employees) about a 2026, but in their latest financial results, T2 still has the game scheduled for Fall 2025.

Granted, there is still plenty of time to delay it and as I said, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it happens

Eonjay241d ago

It would be absolutely hilarious if GTA 6 was 60 FPS on PS5 and Series X. I don't understand why people think that the most expensive to develop game(of all time) hasn't dedicated any resources to optimizing for the very capable hardware they are running on. It could even have its own frame gen tech built into it.

GamerRN241d ago

Eonjay

It won't be 60 on current Gen without serious compromise

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Einhander1972242d ago

I bookmarked this, you are going to be wrong.

This game like basically every game not made by Microsoft will have multiple graphics modes.

And darth I just want to say how disappointed I am that you have become like this in every PS5 Pro topic.

If your not going to buy it fine, it's an optional upgrade.

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Sonic1881242d ago

"And darth I just want to say how disappointed I am that you have become like this in every PS5 Pro topic."

I thought I was the only one that noticed that 😅

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I’m curious about why you are so certain that it will have it. Granted, its in no way impossible for it to happen, but so many things point to it not being the case that it just feels like you (and many other people) are setting yourselves up for disappointment when I’d personally just rather have more grounded expectations and be pleasantly surprised if I’m wrong.

1. Most (if not all) Rockstar games have targeted 30fps upon release. Higher FPS versions have happened years later when an enhanced version comes out.
2. GTA games are very simulation/physics/cpu heavy. Not saying this prevents a 60fps mode entirely. But if base console is targeting 30fps only, the work to get to 60 won’t just be lowering resolution or using PSSR instead of FSR or whatever internal solution they have.
3. What exactly would be Rockstar’s purpose for diverting resources before release in order to develop the Pro port that reaches 60fps? They DONT need a Pro port AT ALL to sell the simply stupid amount of copies they will undoubtedly sell.
4. It makes waaaay more sense for T2 and Rockstar to provide visual and resolution increases and just do a remaster with even better visuals and 60fps when PS6 and the next Xbox come out some 2 years later… because we all know without a doubt that a Remastered version will be coming to next gen

I just really can’t see it happening unless they were already targeting a 60fps mode on the base consoles. There is no reason whatsoever for Take Two or Rockstar to be worrying about a Pro port unless Sony makes a deal with them.

But as I said, I rather think it won’t happen and pleasantly surprised if I’m wrong, than expecting it will happen and be bitter/annoyed if it doesn’t

Michiel1989241d ago

I mean I could say the same about you in any ms and sony topic, all logic thrown out the window to try and validate your purchase cause god imagine if they do something wrong and you wasted 500 bucks. Unbelievably biased and nose deep in....well I guess you know where this goes. And when DF has receipts you just call them liars cause why not?

lukasmain241d ago

I fully agree. I'm 100% expecting GTA6 to at least have a "performace mode" for the Pro. If I could I would bet real dollars on it being true.

darthv72241d ago

If I'm wrong about this game, I'll gladly accept that. However it is not wrong to be cautiously optimistic. And it is not wrong to state the obvious... XB5/PS6 WILL be more performant than the SX/5Pro. And as such GTA6 will be better served on that next iteration of hardware, just as 5 was better served on PS4/XBO (and later SX/PS5) than on PS360.

And like i've said before, I AM going to buy a Pro... when I feel it is appropriate.

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fr0sty241d ago

We don't yet know how the GTA6 engine is going to work... these "it'll be CPU bound" rumors are based on how GTA5 performs, but we don't yet know what tasks GTA6 will use the CPU for, which it will use the GPU for, which optimizations they have done since 5's engine released over a decade ago, etc... Let's just wait until we get some more concrete info.

sagapo241d ago

Rockstar has been using the Rage engine since 2006 ( GTA, RDR, Max Payne), refining and adding features since. It would suprise me if they come with a totally different engine now for GTA6.
Rage engine is heavy on the cpu. But sure, keep your hopes up.

Npugz7241d ago

You seriously think people want to wait another 5 years to play GTA you moron.

purple101241d ago

do you recon as Sony over-delivered with ps5 power., matching or beating xbox on a lot of games when on paper xbox had more power.., we should trust them to also deliver on Ps5pro. and they had practice with ps4pro, so they should be better at it second timer round,

darthv72241d ago

I wouldnt say over-delivered on the 5 so much as the devs under-delivered on the SX. By focusing on the 5, they felt that target was good enough and can be applied to the SX as well. In rare instances have we seen a 3rd party dev make the SX to be better than the 5 but that space marine 2 game is a recent example of the X beating the 5. i know people want to blame the S for the X but its really the 5 that is mandating how things go because it is the lions share of the market. Devs dont want to bit the hand that feeds them so... everything targets the 5 first.

Similar situation will happen with the Pro as well. It wont get nearly the type of support it deserves, much like the One X and 4 Pro before it because 'again' the base 5 has the lions share of the market. If anything, the Pro will actually help the SX versions of 3rd party games as many of the features the Pro is slated to have, the X supports as well. As for the SS... if switch 2 is anything to go by, SS support might actually benefit from there as well because many devs will try their hand at downsampling their games to work on lower spec hardware... which is right where the SS sits.

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andy85242d ago

Let's be honest no ones expecting 60 for GTA 6 now. If it can squeeze a 40 fps mode I'll take it. From the couple of times I've played specific 40 modes it's not horrible on a 120hz screen

franwex242d ago

He is this going to run on the series s? 720p?

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Gamingsince1981242d ago

If the series s is lucky it will hit 720p on performance mode.

Profchaos241d ago

30 sans reflections and decreased everything

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Take-Two CEO Says Rockstar Games Wants GTA VI To Be The Best Entertainment Product Ever Created

Take-Two CEO says that Rockstar Games want its upcoming open world action game, GTA VI, to be the best entertainment product ever created.

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anast2d ago

They are going to raise the price on this game.

Profchaos1d 13h ago

Who cares I mean honestly honestly the amount of hours you can sink into this game alone would be worth the price of two games

ZycoFox1d 10h ago

Provided they have plenty of missions to the story and lots of interactivity/side stuff, or add more afterwards.. Not much good if the game is very short or a big desert, or both.

-Foxtrot1d 10h ago

Who cares? All of us who don't want other developers to get the same idea which they will

Nintendo already opened the flood games with their pricing now you want it to get worse? You are letting developers have the excuse.

Complete boot licking...we didn't ask Rockstar to make these games super ambitious and spend millions on it.

Also you know most of that money is just going to be raked back in thanks to the Online so why do they need to raise the price?

Profchaos1d 6h ago

@foxtrot I totally understand the perspective of other games don't deserve this and I entirely agree. If Nintendo didn't do it Xbox would have done it twice weeks later their decision wasn't a knee jerk reaction it was hinted at and planned well before the floodgates open they had been giving away their first party titles for a long time now to gamepass subs and failing to recoup development expenses it was inevitable that the price was going up.

If GTA Vi wasn't as ambitious as it is people would riot we say we didn't ask for this but we kind of did the expectation of perfection was set many years ago and the longer the development the more we expect.

Think of half life 3 if that ever actually comes out it has to be god tier it can't be a standard shooter it has to excell same with GTA.

CrimsonWing692d ago

Can’t wait! Like my hype has never been this high for a game. I hope it really delivers and looks like what they’re showing. Like, I’ll finally feel like we’ve entered next-gen if it does.

lucasnooker2d ago

Only game this generation I’m truly hyped for. A true AAA big budget banger pushing the hardware to the limits like the good old days!

Eonjay1d 18h ago

While is certainly good to.see the push the machines keep in mind the average studio doesn't have the money or resources to invest into development for over a decade. It really isn't feasible for every game or even 10% of them to reach the levels of this game.

lucasnooker1d 17h ago

@Eonjay and that’s why gaming is cooked today!

Eonjay1d 4h ago

I get it but having spent the weekend playing Balatro, I am actually very satisfied with games of different sizes and prices. I think all big companies should have games of all ranges. And technically they already do.

Basically there really isn't a good reason for most games to push hardware to the max.

Levii_922d ago

I can't wait for this overblown cutscene game to come out so i never buy it and spend money on it.

pwnmaster30002d ago

Thanks for sharing.
I guess I’ll do the opposite

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago

Hell yes! Someone speaking my language for once.

GotGame8181d 14h ago

Hell yes! Like I said, someone has multiple accounts!

b00mFargl31d 22h ago

That's a really cool story; I'm sure your mom loves it when you tell her those stories when you come out of the basement.

GotGame8181d 14h ago

Someone has multiple accounts!

Yui_Suzumiya23h ago

You know there is more than 1 person in the world who thinks GTA is boring right? Lol

andy851d 10h ago

Cutscene game? I probably had 100 hours gameplay in one playthrough of V. Not bad for a cutscene game

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GhostScholar2d ago

Technically it looks incredible but I’m a bit disappointed that it’s turned into a franchise about heists. I miss the more carried mission structure. I miss having just one playable character too.

Putte1d 23h ago

Exactly. It's a shame we don't have one playable character. And the boring heist all the time. Miss the more grounded story's about people.

Extermin8or3_1d 23h ago

You realise you can have both on the story right?

LarVanian1d 18h ago

Heists, be it bank heists or smaller scale, have always been present in GTA since GTA3 at least. That game literally kicked off the 3D universe with a bank heist (it was a cutscene albeit).
We still have no idea how the full story of GTAVI will pan out but it should really be expected that there will be the odd heist on top of other aspects of criminality.

GhostScholar1d ago

Yes but starting with gta v that was the thrust of the whole game. I just miss the mission variety of the games prior to V.

-Foxtrot1d 10h ago

"I miss having just one playable character too"

I have to agree, I felt like I couldn't really invest enough time in anyone during GTAV because we kept switching and out of all of them Trevor was the only fresh of breath air since Michael just reminded me of Tommy and Franklin reminded me of CJ. Also only allowing you to buy certain properties with certain characters was annoying.

I'm hoping with the two characters being romantically linked it means they share all their properties and investments in the game.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

They're definitely gonna charge 2x. Full cost for the story. $80 Full cost for the MP. $80 complete $160 Bundle with some in game currency and Cosmetic dlc. $200

Ninver1d 13h ago

And I'll give them a nice middle finger and buy 2 other games.

fsfsxii1d 13h ago

I’ll buy two copied just to piss you people off.

PhillyDonJawn1d 5h ago

Why would I be pissed? Its gta id buy that sht @$300 lol. I just acknowledged the bs prices the game industry is pulling

Ninver22h ago

But why would anyone be pissed if you're dumb enough to fork over that amount of cash. It's your money lol.

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Why The Rumored $1 Billion Budget For Grand Theft Auto VI Does Not Add Up

Here's why the rumored $1 billion budget for Rockstar Games' upcoming open world action game, Grand Theft Auto VI, doesn't quite add up.

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thorstein3d ago

"Or was it i̶n̶f̶o̶r̶m̶e̶d̶ guesswork from analysts?"

Video game budgets will always be fictional, just like Hollywood movies. Unless there are receipts it's all speculation.

And Take Two has a marketing department with an already approved budget (just like studios in Hollywood).

thorstein3d ago

(Continue...I was in the Lincoln Tunnel)
Budgeting isn't included in the total cost because it is a separate budget. These companies intentionally inflate the numbers so they pay less in taxes.

This is not a new trend. And if you give your CEO $30 million per year and a game takes 5 years, you just add that $150million to the budget (CNN).

VenomUK2d ago

The costs don’t seem out of the realms of possibility. Remember that Rockstar isn’t just releasing just the GTA VI single player game, it has been building an online platform that will far surpass that of GTA V in size and scope that could last for 15 years or more - that takes significant investment.

rudero2d ago

Absolutely anything to do with the product is in the budget.
That is the very definition of BUDGET.

The majority of the budget is marketing and not producing the game.

Then said companies can tag anything else they want in said “budget”.

And the one thing that gta games have is commercials galore.

Early hands on… in the budget.
Review copies.. in the budget.

senorfartcushion2d ago

How much you have as a budget is different from how much you spend making a product. This is one thing journalists never seem to get

isarai3d ago

I don't know where they get these numbers, absolutely NO games is spending anywhere near that amount on production even including marketing. If we're talking lifetime estimates for like a 10yr plan maybe, but even that would be a very vague projection. RDR2 at the time of release cost less that GTAV did and GTAV cost about 265mil with marketing being an average of about 200-300mil each.

Lightning773d ago

I believe it's somewhere around there. Cod is 700m$ to make. I think GTA could be around there if not more. The insane level of detail in the trailer says it all.

Yeah I believe it's around there personally.

goken2d ago

The $700m cod budget is for tax purposes imho.
I also seriously doubt a game even as top notch as GTA would cost a billion to make.

QuantumMechanic2d ago

Yeah, that would be tax fraud. Public companies are independenly audited. They cannot just put whatever number they want "for tax purposes".

thorstein2d ago

@quantum

It's literally called Hollywood Accounting when movie studios do it.

So, you believe that goken and I are wrong, and Return of the Jedi never turned a profit.

It happens all the time.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Hate to break it to you Quantum, but multi-billion dollar companies don't have to follow the rules.

QuantumMechanic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There's a difference between choosing how to allocate corporate/merchandising/royalt y expenses ("Hollywood accounting") and fraudulently inflating project expenses (ILLEGAL). Even if the IRS didn't catch wind of this accounting immediately, the SEC requires quarterly third-party financial audits of public companies. Corporate executives get sued and go to jail for misrepresenting company performance because it affects the value of publically-traded shares.

thorstein2d ago

@Quantim

"It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

You're doubling down and we are just trying to get you to understand.

Of course it's legal, their politicians made it so.

QuantumMechanic1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

There's nothing I "need to understand". I have no problem with "Hollywood accounting" (which is legal because all expenses are taken into account in some capacity on the balance sheet). I was arguing against coming up with some large number "for tax purposes" which cannot come from nothing; it must be documented with receipts/invoices. If a company claims total cost of a production is $700M because they included fixed operating costs, no problem there! If they claim this cost without spending this cost on some component of their operations or the project, that is fraud and they will not pass their SEC audit (if they are a public company). Period.

https://www.sec.gov/about/r...

thorstein17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"There's nothing I need to understand. I don't have any problem with Hollywood Accounting (which is legal..."

Have a good day, guy.

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SimpleSlave2d ago

To be fair, the $700 million in development costs were over the game’s lifecycle, not just development - Black Ops Cold War (2020) in this case. And of course, this also include their marketing campaign.

But then, you take into account Activision Blizzard's shenanigans for not paying taxes, even getting tax refunds, moving billions to tax havens, plus all the money paid by Microsawft and Sony for exclusive deals, and I bet you that figure is substantially way lower than $700 millions. And I do mean SUBSTANTIALLY lower than that.

Oh, and if you think Rockstar hasn't figure out that scheme by now, lol, they have. They all have.

walken72d ago

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnn n.

ravens522d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Same way the $100 rumor started, silly people.

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GTA5 Has Sold Over 215 Million Copies, Red Dead Redemption 2 Has Sold Over 74 Million Units

Take-Two announced its financial results for the fiscal year 2025, also sharing an update on the sales of GTA5 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
The anticipation for GTA6 has reached fever pitch, with the latest trailer being the biggest video launch of all time.

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LostPotato3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Milk...get your milk...and so much more. Really when you release the same games in three editions over 15 years it's amazing how much money, and the amount of sales you earn. It's amazing how no one can compete.

Mr_cheese3d ago

To be fair, no many companies could release the same game over and over. They've earned that whether we agree or not

DarXyde3d ago

I mean Resident Evil 4 has had longer legs and still hasn't done anything like this.

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

GTA v isn't the only game that's released three consoles generations running but nothing has sold those numbers including GTA San Andreas which is now 4 console generations deep.

anast3d ago

Looks like a 2040 release for GTA6

gold_drake2d ago

thats insane right?
absolutely insane

rlow12d ago

No surprising considering that it’s been on every major platform and store.

I decided to look up the longest and most sold games list. To my surprise Tetris has takes the top spot.