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RTX 4090 can't run Final Fantasy XVI at 4K 60 FPS stable without relying on DLSS, benchmark claims

According to these new benchmark reports, Final Fantasy 16 can’t deliver 60 FPS while running native 4K resolution.

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TheNamelessOne228d ago

That's because it's a Square Enix release lol.

FinalFantasyFanatic226d ago

That's honestly a good explanation, Square-Enix is notoriously bad for PC ports, even amongst Japanese developers. I don't think they ever fixed the Nier Automata, or World of Final Fantasy. I think they eventually did fix Chrono Trigger, but that was 2 or 3 years after release.

mandf226d ago

Bad pc optimization say it isn’t so

TheKingKratos225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

Bad optimized on ps5 as well that and Rebirth... Square Enix will never bother though since those games are below their EXPECTATIONS they say

FinalFantasyFanatic225d ago

Guys, you gotta explain the downvotes when I've stated nothing but facts, Square-Enix has consistently done a bad job when they port their games to PC, often, it's the players or fix their games with mods, if the game ever gets fixed.

seanpitt23226d ago

It was like this with Alan wake 2 DLSS is a life saver, I can imagine the 5090 without DLSS will give you the same performance of a 4090 with DLSS

badz149226d ago

So now it's SE that is bad because the most powerful GPU out there is also struggling with the game. I remember people were blaming the PS5 as "outdated" and "weak" and some other things when the game came out. Double standard much?

TheNamelessOne226d ago

One, I don't speak for everybody; nor they me. Two, Square Enix can do a poor job optimizing for both console AND PC as well. They're just known for bad PC ports in general.

TheKingKratos225d ago

Bingo

I said it all along that the game is badly optimized but oh no it's Ps5 fault the game is pushing it to max lol

When i look at games like Horizon Forbidden West and Spiderman 2 and Ratchet and clank etc and see how beautiful they look and run ... Anyone saying anything close to that lose their credibility at once

Ps5 while on paper weaker than X it was running games better than it and still is

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Snookies12228d ago

Square Enix REALLY needs to just find a solid company to outsource these PC ports... They are just butchering their own releases on PC and it's very sad to see.

Goodguy01228d ago

Ran the demo and it was awful on my 3070 lol.

Fishy Fingers228d ago

Yeah i strugged on a 3090ti (i have a stupid 49in ultrawide). But what was interesting, changing the settings and resolution made little difference. Just a poor port.

But tbh I found the 75% of the demo being cutscenes harder to get through than the performance (but im not a FF guy).

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LonDonE226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

i had the same issue as did my daughter on her 3070 rig, but if you install the mod dlssg-to-fsr3-0.100 (Universal) Which tricks games and your nvidia driver to run in unsigned mode and so it thinks its a 40 series card and so you can use frame gen and fsr3 it makes the game perform much better. Granted we should not need to do this but this mod works on near enough any game and can duble your frame rate. I can run the game at 144fps and my daughters its 120fps witjh the mod.

You can also get a mod which unlocks the cutscenes so they run at 60 vs the official game setting of 30fps..
Square need to fix up! i want to double dip as loved the game on my PS5 but sadly it killed my launch ps5.
Too scared to play it on my current ps5. So pc would be perfect..google the name of the mod

deadfrag228d ago

Its nor true.Ultra at 4K native gets you 70+FPS with a 4090.

Profchaos226d ago

What are the rest of the specs you're using for that

--Onilink--226d ago

But it also drops below 60 from time to time, particularly in the most demanding sections, its not locked.

Which is literally what the article says

Neonridr227d ago

no, it fluctuated from 50-70. Which, at native 4K isn't all that bad. Compared to what we get with consoles.

Markdn226d ago

And your point about consoles is relevant why, trying to justify the 4090 again?

Profchaos226d ago

The article states no dlss it's not smooth that's the same as what you said so you just agreed with the article

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“We Apologise And Would Like To Correct This”, Says Analyst Who Claimed FF 16 Only Sold 3.5M Copies

Final Fantasy 16 has likely sold more than 3.5 million copies.

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GamerRN42d ago

The time happens! Never them is right when report.

VenomUK42d ago

The analyst is called Hideki Yasuda. In 2021 he claimed the 'Fall of PlayStation in Japan is “Definitive”'
https://nichegamer.com/rese...

In 2024 he Hideki Yasuda said The Sony Group may see PS5 as a failure and the envisioned goals are unattainable.
https://www.resetera.com/th...

Knushwood Butt42d ago

Curious as to what this means:

'The Japanese branch of GamesIndustry.biz (Translation: DeepL, adjusted)'.

What is DeepL?

Nerdmaster41d ago

@Knushwood Butt
It looks like you also don't know that Google is.

Pro-tip: enter google.com, type "What is DeepL?" and press enter.

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oldenjon42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

FF16 sales the time, and tbh game the time

S2Killinit42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

What about all the damage he did? People were talking like this game was a flop.

StormSnooper42d ago

I think that is why he is apologizing. He wants to make sure he doesn’t get sued for defamation.

badz14942d ago

SE and Sony definitely should sue him

Babadook743d ago (Edited 43d ago )

This isn’t news. The analyst could be right or wrong. Square Enix hasn’t said anything.

mandf43d ago

He admitted he was wrong didn’t have knowledge of the actual sales

Babadook742d ago (Edited 42d ago )

When there is knowledge of actual sales you wouldn’t need an analyst. He more or less admits his analysis is wrong but that’s bound to happen in that field. They make predictions that they hope will be useful. This wasn’t.

Anyway, it seems people are taking my comment as an attack on this game. I like the game and hope it does well. Hopefully FF gets a resurgence. They pretty much deserve that. I just think this story is of no importance.

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tiron843d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Obviously a game that stayed on the top ten then regularly returned to the top 10/20 and then released on PC would have sold more than .5m more than the first week sales.

Final Fantasy 16 Sold 3 Million Copies During Launch Week
"Square Enix said the milestone includes both physical and digital sales on PlayStation 5."
https://www.ign.com/article...

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pwnmaster300043d ago

lol even with facts certain people will still not believe it

The Wood42d ago

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They don't wanna believe....... narratives need to be upheld at all costs

Elantregaless42d ago

Steam user scores and Playstation scores indicate otherwise.

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Elantregaless42d ago

Exactly. The analyst does not mean anything.
As far as we know the official sales are still at 3 million.

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thorstein43d ago

Analyst is wrong again. Shocking.

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CrashMania43d ago

Always thought it was the case, sold 3 million in the first week and 300k on PC from the last numbers we got, so only 200k extra copies in almost 2 years on PS5 and since the PC release?

Make it make sense lol

pwnmaster300043d ago

Doesn’t matter. People will still believe the mistake. How are you an analyst and get it wrong?

jznrpg42d ago

Analysts have agendas so you can not trust what they say in articles.

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JEECE42d ago

Yep. You better believe in two years when people are making an argument about big AAA games not selling enough, or PS5 exclusives not selling, or Japanese games not selling, or whatever the dumb argument happens to be, this "number" will get cited as evidence. The retraction never has the same reach as the false story.

mandf42d ago

That’s why propaganda works

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Final Fantasy XVI Sales Reach 3.5 Million, Lagging Behind Final Fantasy XV’s Launch Numbers

Lifetime sales of Square Enix's action role-playing game, Final Fantasy XVI, have reached 3.5 million copies.

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Cacabunga51d ago

A terrible game, but good it sold well then they keep the franchise alive. I hope they do better next time with an RPG and not a dmc clone..

CrimsonWing6951d ago (Edited 51d ago )

I think they’re saying it underperformed and isn’t selling well. It was 3 mill near launch, it only did 500k more and that’s even after a PC launch.

jukins51d ago

This article is a lie. They announced 3m in a week on ps5. It finished top 20 for the year it release and continued top 20 throughout 2024. By this logic it sold over 3m on launch week and then never sold another copy until pc release.

S2Killinit51d ago

Also, They are not considering that this was exclusive to PlayStation. Am I correct in this?

If so, its clickbait.

CrimsonWing6951d ago

@S2Killinit

They mention the PC version… like 3 mill was the announcement, like a month after release. Now, after the PC release there’s 3.5 mill units sold.

Square has already come out saying this and Rebirth underperformed. Considering how much they spent on development and marketing and the way sales aren’t moving to recoup cost, it’s a little concerning to me, especially as a mega-fan of this franchise.

I didn’t think 16 was the worst game I played, but outside of some epic boss battles and the Benedikta arc… I found it rather boring. The DLC have the best boss fights in a game I’ve played in a while though.

RaiderNation51d ago

Lol no, it's not a terrible game. Far from it actually. It's just not a FF game.

CosmicTurtle51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

The problem for me is that the combat was not varied or customisable enough to last the game’s play time.

Otherwise, I agree with RaiderNation it is the reason I held out from buying it until it initially, is it was not the genre I wanted. I am happy for a series to change and grow but I want an RPG to some extent. It’s a shame because it handled narrative and dialogue pretty well.

Nooderus51d ago

I really didn't enjoy it. Combat was trash, main character trash imo.

Cacabunga51d ago

You buy a game called FF to realize it’s something else is utter lie. I would never have bought it if it was called something else. The game is so boring and poorly exexuted. Beginning and ending are the good sides of it. Rest is trash

RaiderNation51d ago

@Cacabunga

What did you do? Walk into Gamestop and completely blind buy it without reading any of the reviews/previews or watching any of the YouTube reviews? Hell the game had a demo you could try out before deciding to buy! Don't give me the whole "wow I was completely blindsided by this and had no idea" excuse. That's on you. If you didn't like it, fine. Opinions vary. But don't act like you were a victim to some bait and switch attempt because that's just not reality.

Cacabunga51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

I am an old time FF fan so i never want to spoil any episode. I didnt even want to finish the demo. I liked the feel of it but i didnt expect it would turn into a pure action game.

No i dont watch reviews because they are subjective.

Its ok i didnt like the game things like this happen. Game was just ridiculous, side quests are absolute trash. I have platinum trophy I know what i am talking about.

I supported it as a FF fan, i hope they do better next time.

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Nooderus51d ago

Agreed, worse than ff13 by far

MeteorPanda51d ago

if you played ff 14 this really did feel like an improved mmo...that is 10 years old.

first ff entry l barely finished and traded in. Bloody horrible storytelling. The story was okay, the execution was cringe af.

Amazingly however the first part was the best part, the demo being the highlight.

FernDiggidy51d ago

Terrible is fucking insane. Keep swallowing crayons

AnotherGamer50d ago

You really can't be serious lol

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Npugz751d ago

Are you serious? This was not a terrible game at all it was very good!

FernDiggidy51d ago

Good game for sure, certainly not terrible. Very good is debatable.

ravens5251d ago

Great game. Doesn't seem like PC helped at all of these numbers are correct.

JEECE51d ago

Yeah, these numbers are a little hard to believe. If it sold 3 million in the first week and had even a semi-decent launch on PC, for these numbers to be right you'd have to assume it sold basically zero copies on PS5 after its launch week. Given it was in the NPD Top Ten in its second month, and the top twenty its third month, that's hard to believe, even if I'm sure they anticipated it charting higher for longer. That's to say nothing of sales boosts it probably got from PSN sales.

nommers51d ago

The link that the article is mentioning doesn’t give much context. It likely needs good translation as well.

raWfodog51d ago

I hope this helps the 'complete' edition go on sale for a huge discount. It went on sale a while ago for only about 25% off but I'm waiting for that 50% off (or higher) sweet spot.

GhostScholar51d ago

It underperformed because it was on less platforms I get no one wants to admit
That

Elda51d ago

It wouldn't have sold that much that better had it also released on XB, people on XB would have only played FFXVI if it was on Gamepass.

DivineHand12551d ago (Edited 51d ago )

If it has the opportunity to launch on all platforms at launch then yes the sales would have been better but it is difficult to say by how much. It would have benefited from the excitement and marketing in that window.

One thing to bear in mind is that it would be a struggle to get the game running on the Xbox because of the series S. The game does not hit a stable 60 on either the base PS5 or PS5 Pro. Based on Digital foundry, it only hits 60 FPS during fight sequences on base PS5. The game is also set to have dynamic resolution so instead of prioritizing frame rate in non battle sequences, the game prioritizes resolution making it difficult for the PS5 Pro to maintain 60 FPS as the game tries to reach 4k native instead of using PSSR. Square really should have updated the game.

I am not saying all this to be unfair to the Xbox because I believe I am one of the most fair users towards that platform on this site. I am just giving you my honest opinion based on my experience with the game.

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Just Let Me Be the Big Monster: A Final Fantasy 16 Rant

Players just want to smash wild Chocobos into oblivion.

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DivineHand12552d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Final Fantasy 16 was a great game. It had one of the best combat systems out of many JRPGs. It does have some elements of it that could be better, like what the author of this article said. It would have been nice to be able to use fully transformed Eikons at will like in the previous games. I believe the FF13 and FF7 remakes were the last to allow players to do this. Let us hope FF17 will allow players to use summons at will.

POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT: There are some other elements story-wise that could have been better. I would have preferred if Clive was more militant, and he rebelled against the non-Bearers much like Spartacus. That would have had me more invested in the story than him not wanting to change the status quo despite the harsh treatment Bearers across the kingdom faced from their slavers. I also think the FF games in general need to start distancing themselves from these bittersweet endings and give us a happier ending. Yes, you defeated the bad guy, but what is the point if the main characters can't enjoy the victory?