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RTX 4090 can't run Final Fantasy XVI at 4K 60 FPS stable without relying on DLSS, benchmark claims

According to these new benchmark reports, Final Fantasy 16 can’t deliver 60 FPS while running native 4K resolution.

TheNamelessOne264d ago

That's because it's a Square Enix release lol.

FinalFantasyFanatic262d ago

That's honestly a good explanation, Square-Enix is notoriously bad for PC ports, even amongst Japanese developers. I don't think they ever fixed the Nier Automata, or World of Final Fantasy. I think they eventually did fix Chrono Trigger, but that was 2 or 3 years after release.

mandf262d ago

Bad pc optimization say it isn’t so

TheKingKratos261d ago (Edited 261d ago )

Bad optimized on ps5 as well that and Rebirth... Square Enix will never bother though since those games are below their EXPECTATIONS they say

FinalFantasyFanatic261d ago

Guys, you gotta explain the downvotes when I've stated nothing but facts, Square-Enix has consistently done a bad job when they port their games to PC, often, it's the players or fix their games with mods, if the game ever gets fixed.

seanpitt23262d ago

It was like this with Alan wake 2 DLSS is a life saver, I can imagine the 5090 without DLSS will give you the same performance of a 4090 with DLSS

badz149262d ago

So now it's SE that is bad because the most powerful GPU out there is also struggling with the game. I remember people were blaming the PS5 as "outdated" and "weak" and some other things when the game came out. Double standard much?

TheNamelessOne262d ago

One, I don't speak for everybody; nor they me. Two, Square Enix can do a poor job optimizing for both console AND PC as well. They're just known for bad PC ports in general.

TheKingKratos261d ago

Bingo

I said it all along that the game is badly optimized but oh no it's Ps5 fault the game is pushing it to max lol

When i look at games like Horizon Forbidden West and Spiderman 2 and Ratchet and clank etc and see how beautiful they look and run ... Anyone saying anything close to that lose their credibility at once

Ps5 while on paper weaker than X it was running games better than it and still is

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Snookies12264d ago

Square Enix REALLY needs to just find a solid company to outsource these PC ports... They are just butchering their own releases on PC and it's very sad to see.

Goodguy01264d ago

Ran the demo and it was awful on my 3070 lol.

Fishy Fingers264d ago

Yeah i strugged on a 3090ti (i have a stupid 49in ultrawide). But what was interesting, changing the settings and resolution made little difference. Just a poor port.

But tbh I found the 75% of the demo being cutscenes harder to get through than the performance (but im not a FF guy).

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LonDonE262d ago (Edited 262d ago )

i had the same issue as did my daughter on her 3070 rig, but if you install the mod dlssg-to-fsr3-0.100 (Universal) Which tricks games and your nvidia driver to run in unsigned mode and so it thinks its a 40 series card and so you can use frame gen and fsr3 it makes the game perform much better. Granted we should not need to do this but this mod works on near enough any game and can duble your frame rate. I can run the game at 144fps and my daughters its 120fps witjh the mod.

You can also get a mod which unlocks the cutscenes so they run at 60 vs the official game setting of 30fps..
Square need to fix up! i want to double dip as loved the game on my PS5 but sadly it killed my launch ps5.
Too scared to play it on my current ps5. So pc would be perfect..google the name of the mod

deadfrag264d ago

Its nor true.Ultra at 4K native gets you 70+FPS with a 4090.

Profchaos262d ago

What are the rest of the specs you're using for that

--Onilink--262d ago

But it also drops below 60 from time to time, particularly in the most demanding sections, its not locked.

Which is literally what the article says

Neonridr263d ago

no, it fluctuated from 50-70. Which, at native 4K isn't all that bad. Compared to what we get with consoles.

Markdn262d ago

And your point about consoles is relevant why, trying to justify the 4090 again?

Profchaos262d ago

The article states no dlss it's not smooth that's the same as what you said so you just agreed with the article

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FINAL FANTASY XVI - Available on Xbox Series X|S and Xbox PC today | Xbox Games Showcase 2025

The legacy of the crystals has shaped our history for long enough.

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Kurisu1d 6h ago

Great news for fans of Final Fantasy on Xbox.

raWfodog1d 5h ago

I’m sure Xbox gamers are also looking forward to FFVII Remake dropping this fall/winter, probably more so than FFXVI.

Kurisu1d 3h ago

I didn't realise that had been announced as well!

Scissorman1d 6h ago

But will it sell well? Let's see if everyone that was bemoaning this title as a PS5 exclusive now has the balls to back it up and purchase this game on Xbox. This game sold over 3 million copies in three days on PS5 alone. Let's see how many Xbox players will show up.

Elda1d 6h ago

I'm curious to know if only XB Series owners will buy the game as well.

tay87011d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

They are not gonna buy them.

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Christopher1d 5h ago

Why do we even ask this when the facts will speak for themself in the future? Let's just be happy the game is more available to more gamers. We can discuss the sales of the game when they actually happen.

Terry_B11h ago

^^ this. Good third party games should be available on as many platforms as possible.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1d 5h ago

Why do you care so much about how well this game sells on Xbox? What do you gain by learning how well it sells? Maybe you should focus more on why the game STILL runs like crap on PS5…

tay87011d 1h ago

Runs like a dream on ps5 pro. Man the s is gonna struggle big time.

Traecy16h ago

Why do you care why some people care if it sells on XB or not? What do you gain by trying to call them out for wanting to know that info. The pot calling the kettle black.

kpgs10h ago

"Maybe you should focus more on why the game STILL runs like crap on PS5…"
Isn't that on the devs to fix?
And if it can't run well on PS5, isn't Xbox in trouble too?

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH3h ago

@KPGS couldn’t the same be said about him worrying about sales? Shouldn’t stock holders be the one worried about that not consumers?

@tay8701 unless you’re playing a completely different version of FF16 than everyone else it still runs like crap on PS5 and on Pro so I’m not sure what dreams you be having…

At Traecy Oh you’re one of those guys i see. Ok I’ll play along, why are you worried about me be worried about someone being worried about sales? See what I did there…

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Petebloodyonion1d 3h ago

It's not about selling, it's about mending bridges.
Honestly, a huge chunk of ppl owning an Xbox do own a PlayStation console, something that Phil Spencer alluded to before the release of the Series X with why releasing a Series S console.
https://www.gamedeveloper.c...

And true Final Fantasy fans probably bought a PS5 when they announced only on PS5.
So don't expect a lot of sales for these games.

thesoftware7301d 2h ago

So, and old game that was later called "not really a FF" game and many concluded that has annoying gameplay issues(no real elemental structure)which everyone know about..and you expect it to seel super well.

They hype has been gone for this game, and the fact that there are so many other newer stellar RPG currently available.

Extermin8or3_23h ago

Thry don't buy games hardly at all anymore. It won't sell well. Will likely leave square Enix scratching their heads and thinking "oh shit, maybe taking money and dev assistance from Sony for it to be exclusive is the better financial move after all"

Workshyskiver17h ago

It won't really be a true reflection of what marketshare the Xbox platform would have of the game if it had released day and date. I would have been a day one buyer but its been out for so long I've since bought it on my PC and I can't imagine I am alone in that.

On the game itself I thought it was extremely disappointing and such a dull game outside of the big boss moments. Had a potentially great story and I just don't think they delivered on its potential.

FF7 remake is another one that whilst I liked and I loved reunion, cutting out a lot of the waffle they introduced and having those two games as one entry would have been better. Chadley is a horrible addition to those games.

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Hereandthere1d 6h ago

Bought for 55.16, have to support blockbuster games like this.

Levii_921d 5h ago

I’m replaying this game right now on Ps5 and while i like it a bit better this time (cause i knew what to expect) some of the choices made in this game gameplay and traversal wise are still mind-numbingly baffling to me.

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“We Apologise And Would Like To Correct This”, Says Analyst Who Claimed FF 16 Only Sold 3.5M Copies

Final Fantasy 16 has likely sold more than 3.5 million copies.

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GamerRN78d ago

The time happens! Never them is right when report.

VenomUK78d ago

The analyst is called Hideki Yasuda. In 2021 he claimed the 'Fall of PlayStation in Japan is “Definitive”'
https://nichegamer.com/rese...

In 2024 he Hideki Yasuda said The Sony Group may see PS5 as a failure and the envisioned goals are unattainable.
https://www.resetera.com/th...

Knushwood Butt77d ago

Curious as to what this means:

'The Japanese branch of GamesIndustry.biz (Translation: DeepL, adjusted)'.

What is DeepL?

Nerdmaster77d ago

@Knushwood Butt
It looks like you also don't know that Google is.

Pro-tip: enter google.com, type "What is DeepL?" and press enter.

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oldenjon78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

FF16 sales the time, and tbh game the time

S2Killinit78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

What about all the damage he did? People were talking like this game was a flop.

StormSnooper78d ago

I think that is why he is apologizing. He wants to make sure he doesn’t get sued for defamation.

badz14978d ago

SE and Sony definitely should sue him

Babadook779d ago (Edited 79d ago )

This isn’t news. The analyst could be right or wrong. Square Enix hasn’t said anything.

mandf79d ago

He admitted he was wrong didn’t have knowledge of the actual sales

Babadook778d ago (Edited 78d ago )

When there is knowledge of actual sales you wouldn’t need an analyst. He more or less admits his analysis is wrong but that’s bound to happen in that field. They make predictions that they hope will be useful. This wasn’t.

Anyway, it seems people are taking my comment as an attack on this game. I like the game and hope it does well. Hopefully FF gets a resurgence. They pretty much deserve that. I just think this story is of no importance.

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tiron879d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Obviously a game that stayed on the top ten then regularly returned to the top 10/20 and then released on PC would have sold more than .5m more than the first week sales.

Final Fantasy 16 Sold 3 Million Copies During Launch Week
"Square Enix said the milestone includes both physical and digital sales on PlayStation 5."
https://www.ign.com/article...

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pwnmaster300078d ago

lol even with facts certain people will still not believe it

The Wood78d ago

@pwnmaster3000

They don't wanna believe....... narratives need to be upheld at all costs

Elantregaless78d ago

Steam user scores and Playstation scores indicate otherwise.

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Elantregaless78d ago

Exactly. The analyst does not mean anything.
As far as we know the official sales are still at 3 million.

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thorstein79d ago

Analyst is wrong again. Shocking.

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CrashMania79d ago

Always thought it was the case, sold 3 million in the first week and 300k on PC from the last numbers we got, so only 200k extra copies in almost 2 years on PS5 and since the PC release?

Make it make sense lol

pwnmaster300078d ago

Doesn’t matter. People will still believe the mistake. How are you an analyst and get it wrong?

jznrpg78d ago

Analysts have agendas so you can not trust what they say in articles.

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JEECE78d ago

Yep. You better believe in two years when people are making an argument about big AAA games not selling enough, or PS5 exclusives not selling, or Japanese games not selling, or whatever the dumb argument happens to be, this "number" will get cited as evidence. The retraction never has the same reach as the false story.

mandf78d ago

That’s why propaganda works

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Final Fantasy XVI Sales Reach 3.5 Million, Lagging Behind Final Fantasy XV’s Launch Numbers

Lifetime sales of Square Enix's action role-playing game, Final Fantasy XVI, have reached 3.5 million copies.

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Cacabunga87d ago

A terrible game, but good it sold well then they keep the franchise alive. I hope they do better next time with an RPG and not a dmc clone..

CrimsonWing6987d ago (Edited 87d ago )

I think they’re saying it underperformed and isn’t selling well. It was 3 mill near launch, it only did 500k more and that’s even after a PC launch.

jukins87d ago

This article is a lie. They announced 3m in a week on ps5. It finished top 20 for the year it release and continued top 20 throughout 2024. By this logic it sold over 3m on launch week and then never sold another copy until pc release.

S2Killinit87d ago

Also, They are not considering that this was exclusive to PlayStation. Am I correct in this?

If so, its clickbait.

CrimsonWing6987d ago

@S2Killinit

They mention the PC version… like 3 mill was the announcement, like a month after release. Now, after the PC release there’s 3.5 mill units sold.

Square has already come out saying this and Rebirth underperformed. Considering how much they spent on development and marketing and the way sales aren’t moving to recoup cost, it’s a little concerning to me, especially as a mega-fan of this franchise.

I didn’t think 16 was the worst game I played, but outside of some epic boss battles and the Benedikta arc… I found it rather boring. The DLC have the best boss fights in a game I’ve played in a while though.

RaiderNation87d ago

Lol no, it's not a terrible game. Far from it actually. It's just not a FF game.

CosmicTurtle87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

The problem for me is that the combat was not varied or customisable enough to last the game’s play time.

Otherwise, I agree with RaiderNation it is the reason I held out from buying it until it initially, is it was not the genre I wanted. I am happy for a series to change and grow but I want an RPG to some extent. It’s a shame because it handled narrative and dialogue pretty well.

Nooderus87d ago

I really didn't enjoy it. Combat was trash, main character trash imo.

Cacabunga87d ago

You buy a game called FF to realize it’s something else is utter lie. I would never have bought it if it was called something else. The game is so boring and poorly exexuted. Beginning and ending are the good sides of it. Rest is trash

RaiderNation87d ago

@Cacabunga

What did you do? Walk into Gamestop and completely blind buy it without reading any of the reviews/previews or watching any of the YouTube reviews? Hell the game had a demo you could try out before deciding to buy! Don't give me the whole "wow I was completely blindsided by this and had no idea" excuse. That's on you. If you didn't like it, fine. Opinions vary. But don't act like you were a victim to some bait and switch attempt because that's just not reality.

Cacabunga87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

I am an old time FF fan so i never want to spoil any episode. I didnt even want to finish the demo. I liked the feel of it but i didnt expect it would turn into a pure action game.

No i dont watch reviews because they are subjective.

Its ok i didnt like the game things like this happen. Game was just ridiculous, side quests are absolute trash. I have platinum trophy I know what i am talking about.

I supported it as a FF fan, i hope they do better next time.

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Nooderus87d ago

Agreed, worse than ff13 by far

MeteorPanda87d ago

if you played ff 14 this really did feel like an improved mmo...that is 10 years old.

first ff entry l barely finished and traded in. Bloody horrible storytelling. The story was okay, the execution was cringe af.

Amazingly however the first part was the best part, the demo being the highlight.

FernDiggidy87d ago

Terrible is fucking insane. Keep swallowing crayons

AnotherGamer86d ago

You really can't be serious lol

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Npugz787d ago

Are you serious? This was not a terrible game at all it was very good!

FernDiggidy87d ago

Good game for sure, certainly not terrible. Very good is debatable.

ravens5287d ago

Great game. Doesn't seem like PC helped at all of these numbers are correct.

JEECE87d ago

Yeah, these numbers are a little hard to believe. If it sold 3 million in the first week and had even a semi-decent launch on PC, for these numbers to be right you'd have to assume it sold basically zero copies on PS5 after its launch week. Given it was in the NPD Top Ten in its second month, and the top twenty its third month, that's hard to believe, even if I'm sure they anticipated it charting higher for longer. That's to say nothing of sales boosts it probably got from PSN sales.

nommers87d ago

The link that the article is mentioning doesn’t give much context. It likely needs good translation as well.

raWfodog87d ago

I hope this helps the 'complete' edition go on sale for a huge discount. It went on sale a while ago for only about 25% off but I'm waiting for that 50% off (or higher) sweet spot.

GhostScholar87d ago

It underperformed because it was on less platforms I get no one wants to admit
That

Elda87d ago

It wouldn't have sold that much that better had it also released on XB, people on XB would have only played FFXVI if it was on Gamepass.

DivineHand12587d ago (Edited 87d ago )

If it has the opportunity to launch on all platforms at launch then yes the sales would have been better but it is difficult to say by how much. It would have benefited from the excitement and marketing in that window.

One thing to bear in mind is that it would be a struggle to get the game running on the Xbox because of the series S. The game does not hit a stable 60 on either the base PS5 or PS5 Pro. Based on Digital foundry, it only hits 60 FPS during fight sequences on base PS5. The game is also set to have dynamic resolution so instead of prioritizing frame rate in non battle sequences, the game prioritizes resolution making it difficult for the PS5 Pro to maintain 60 FPS as the game tries to reach 4k native instead of using PSSR. Square really should have updated the game.

I am not saying all this to be unfair to the Xbox because I believe I am one of the most fair users towards that platform on this site. I am just giving you my honest opinion based on my experience with the game.

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