PS5 Pro Was an Open Secret at Gamescom 2024

Wccftech can confirm that PS5 Pro was an open secret at Gamescom 2024, having also heard that PS5 Pro specs have been shared with developers.

[Einhander1972]

45% performance improvement in rasterized rendering thanks to a larger GPU and faster memory

Hugely improved ray tracing architecture delivering 2-3x speedup on average, with peaks of 4x

Custom machine learning architecture that supports 300 TOPS at 8-bit to power the PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution (PSSR) upscaling technique, Sony's version of Multi Frame Super Resolution based on the PlayStation Machine Learning (PSML) algorithm.

PSSR is an ML-enhanced version of Temporal Anti-Aliasing Upscaling (TAAU) that requires inputs similar to NVIDIA
DLSS or AMD FSR and fully supports High Dynamic Range (HDR) pipelines. It also does not require per-game training like the latest version of DLSS.

[crazyCoconuts]

When the next GTA comes out this is gonna be the best hardware to play it on. PS may just clean up with this

[ZycoFox]

"best hardware to play it on" Until it releases on PC with much higher frame rates, detail & draw distance, but it'll be good for a double dip for those that won't want to wait.

The issue is that the game will be running on what will be pretty much a 6 year old CPU by the time the game comes out.

[Einhander1972]

@Number1TailzFan

Every time you say the same crap even though a half dozen different people have tried to explain to you what upscaling is.

You are purposely spreading misinformation, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised since digital foundry started the BS.

[ZycoFox]

@Einhander "Every time I say the same crap" and then you go on to say that Digital Foundry spread misinformation, LMAO. I've heard them called Intel shills when they used to show Intel processors running games better than early Zen chips (which they did) but that's a new one on me.

Whatever helps you sleep at night though.

[Einhander1972]

You go out of your way to post the same thing in every article about the Pro. So, it comes across like you're the one losing sleep over it.

But factually DLSS and FSR and upscaling in general whole purpose is to increase framerate by upscaling a lower resolution render.

And I trust PlayStation Engineers know what they are doing more than some clowns who make videos on the internet. Digital Foundry was also bragging about 12% for the SX yet PS5 has consistently outperformed xbox in the most games across the most graphical measurements. PS5 has overperformed every estimation they made for it.

And they also have been misinforming people about everything from how BC would work if PS5 would have ray tracing if PS5 would be able to support FSR and other ML how the SSD would benefit the console how Tempest works on surround sound and on and on, every false or fake rumor and misinformation about PS5 they have tried to amplify since before this generation even began.

They are the propaganda arm of Microsoft and they are a bunch of liars.

[ZycoFox]

@Einhander So you're gonna believe marketing over people who know what they're doing?

If you want to see real liars go and look at AMD, they've blatantly lied over processor performance at least 2-3 times, showing Zen 3 better than Raptor Lake, and now even charts showing false nonsense performance with Zen 5, which turned out to be a total flop since you can pick up Zen 4 chips from Aliexpress dirt cheap for the same performance and efficiency.

You can say DLSS this and that, yes it helps, but it's not a substitute for better hardware power.

[Einhander1972]

@Number1TailzFan

"but it's not a substitute for better hardware power."

Actually, that is EXACTLY what the point of upscaling is.

It helps lower hardware run at higher framerates than the amount of raw hardware power it would take to run it directly. Getting double framerates through upscaling isn't uncommon at all.

DLSS 3 in simulations can more than triple framerate.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurec...

[ZycoFox]

I'm obviously not smart enough for this conversation. There's your answer guys, PS5 Pro is all you'll ever need hardware wise, as long as you have DLSS you won't ever need a PS6 or 7.

[Einhander1972]

"I'm obviously not smart enough for this conversation."

So, please stop posting the same misinformation.

PS6 and PS7 will have more powerful hardware AND upscaling...

[purple101]

Yep, I’m also wondering how is gta gonna run on series s
What will the spin be when it gets delayed/ runs 720p

[outsider1624]

And perfect time to buy the physical disc of Wukong.

[TheCaptainKuchiki]

Yeah Sony is smart. These PS5 Pro + GTA 6 bundles are gonna sell like hot cakes.

[Markdn]

Nuber1TailzFan. What you miss everytime, as most pc master race people do, is the fact that 98% of console players don't care about Pc's. I am not saying anything negative about it. But they want to turn on and play, sit on there couch and enjoy. Nobody cares what else pc's can do. Nobody wants to spend upwards of 2k for that awesomeness you talk about. They just want to play. So enjoy your pc. We get it's awesome, but for most people gta 6 and Ps5 pro will be the best place to play it.

[XBManiac]

After PC. PS5 Pro, best console platform.

[KyRo]

All that sounds great for the gamers who want more power. However if Sony lock frame generation and upscaling to the PS5 Pro, there should be uproar.

Upscalers are available on steam from £5 which makes potato PCs play games up to 4x higher frames. Upscalers and frame generation isn't hardware intensive so if they lock it behind a paid console upgrade, it would be pretty scummy.

[crazyCoconuts]

So your premise is that the PS5 Pro doesn't have special hardware to do the DLSS-like magic that the Nvidia cards do? And Nvidia is secretly keeping DLSS from working on non-RTX cards as well?
It takes custom hardware to do that real time. This isn't some simple upscaling algorithm

[Obscure_Observer]

@Einhander1972

"You are purposely spreading misinformation, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised since digital foundry started the BS."

So gamers are supposed to trust you instead DF and eagerly expect GTA VI to run at flawlessly 60fps on the Pro because it´s upscaler will perform some kind of miracle?

"And I trust PlayStation Engineers know what they are doing more than some clowns who make videos on the internet."

Did the Playstation Engineers promised 60fps for GTA VI?

"It helps lower hardware run at higher framerates than the amount of raw hardware power it would take to run it directly. Getting double framerates through upscaling isn't uncommon at all."

You know that upscalling from a 30fps signal is far from recommended as long visual quality is a concern. Bear in mind that when comes to new releases on consoles, Rockstar will always favor higher resolutions and attention to detail over higher frame rates every time of the year. They´ll save most resources from consoles weak/dated CPUs for physics and complex processing. That´s why 30fps for consoles always has been their sweet spot.

I heard the PS5 Pro´s upscaler will be powered by a new AI which might do all the upscalling process by itself without any input from the developers, so...I don´t know... I would be more careful before call the guys at DF liars because, Pro´s AI upscaler could be a game changer or a complete disaster on GTA VI´s case.

Keep that in mind because the same guys you´re calling liars will be the ones who will put the Pro´s performance and image quality under a microscope for everyone to see. And I guess a blurry GTA VI image from the PS5 Pro turned meme on internet is not what both Sony and Rockstar wants.

They say 'it's better to be safe than sorry'.

[Einhander1972]

I am 100% confident that the PS5 Pro will offer the best console experience with the highest resolution and the highest possible frame rates.

If I was you I'd be more concerned with whether the series s can play the game at all and if it gets delayed or canceled like so many games because of it.

[JohnnyRambo]

You have to remember that it's mostly console guys that visit this site, primarily Sony fans. So anything said against their machine will be automatically down voted, even if what you say has truth in it.

All I'm seeing is mostly cope here.

[crazyCoconuts]

You're not honestly predicting the PS5 pro won't play GTA VI better then the PS5 or the XSX, are you?

[andy85]

"Did the playstation engineers promise 60 FPS for GTA 6?" Well obviously not considering there's been no official confirmation it's at 30 yet 😂

[TheEroica]

And they've given you concord to play... 🤷

Seriously though, these half stop consoles only have meaning when the games are pushing the edge... They're not. Every game this gen could've been made with a last gen release.

[purple101]

This guy Zuby on twitter has complied a list of time since last release of all PS studios, it seems to me they're almost all ready to drop something, and ps5pro is coming just round the corner, almost like sony planned it this way.!!

they had one bad year and we thought Sony fumbled the ball
we about to be eating good, more than that, Sonys laying on a veritable BANQUET OF AAA games around the pro model., people really thought sony was misplaced, they just taking their time. covid delayed things by a year I suspect and turned god of war / gt7 / horizon into mulligan games, but yeh, they are gonna show stuff soon.

• Bend Studio: 5 Years, 4 Months
• Bluepoint Games: 3 Years, 9 Months
• Firesprite: 1 Year, 6 Months
• Guerrilla Games: 2 Years, 6 Months
• Haven Studios: Fairgame$ 2025
• Housemarque: 3 Years, 4 Months
• Insomniac Games: 10 Months
• Media Molecule: 4 Years, 6 Months
• Naughty Dog: 4 Years, 1 Month
• Polyphony Digital: 2 Years, 6 Months
• San Diego Studio: MLB The Show Annual
• Sony Santa Monica Studio: 1 Year, 10 Months
• Sucker Punch Productions: 4 Years, 1 Month

[purple101]

@Number1TailzFan

"The issue is that the game will be running on what will be pretty much a 6 year old CPU by the time the game comes out."

good job its been in development for 8 years then. so they probably took that into account, also, the previous one managed to run on ps4, so I think its fine,

also for example:

'1.The PlayStation 4 Pro have a CPU with 8 Cores based on old Zen Architecture of AMD with a frequency of 2.3 GHz.

Whereas

The PlayStation 5 have a CPU with 8 Cores based on the New Zen 2 Architecture of AMD with a frequency of 3.5 GHz.'

so minimum 30% better, & thats without taking into account the new architecture and features not to mention ssd.

[andy85]

Even on PS3. So I'm pretty sure a CPU 15+ years newer will handle it 😂

[gold_drake]

yup, the press section knew all about it.

[S2Killinit]

I want one ☝️ please

[TwoPicklesGood]

I fell for the PS4 pro and it was absolutely not worth it so no FOMO here. I’ll wait but the inevitable PS6. For those who haven’t bought a PS5 yet, you should definitely just get the pro.

[XBManiac]

Wipe Out VR? Only for that, PS4 Pro was great and needed. But there were more, of course.

[raWfodog]

“ For those who haven’t bought a PS5 yet, you should definitely just get the pro.”

Or if you’re like me, and looking for a 2nd PS5 so you don’t have to keep sharing with your kids, you’ll be getting the PS5 Pro instead of getting another PS5.

[jznrpg]

That exactly what I am doing. Kids get my PS5 I’ll get the Pro.

[gaffyh]

i'll get one if it is smaller than the current UNIT!

[RupeeHoarder]

Smaller than the shrunk down second version that just came out? I would anticipate it being the size of the OG PS5, but maybe they did some engineering magic. We shall see

[TheProfessional]

Why would it be the same size as the ps5? No reason it would be especially since one of the main criticisms was that it was oversized. The design was also bad so at least the pro should improve on it

[andy85]

I mean its not going to be smaller than the PS5 Slim is it 😂

[DustMan]

Now I need to buy a new TV. Great generation to be a late adopter.