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PS5 Pro Was an Open Secret at Gamescom 2024

Wccftech can confirm that PS5 Pro was an open secret at Gamescom 2024, having also heard that PS5 Pro specs have been shared with developers.

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Einhander1972275d ago

45% performance improvement in rasterized rendering thanks to a larger GPU and faster memory

Hugely improved ray tracing architecture delivering 2-3x speedup on average, with peaks of 4x

Custom machine learning architecture that supports 300 TOPS at 8-bit to power the PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution (PSSR) upscaling technique, Sony's version of Multi Frame Super Resolution based on the PlayStation Machine Learning (PSML) algorithm.

PSSR is an ML-enhanced version of Temporal Anti-Aliasing Upscaling (TAAU) that requires inputs similar to NVIDIA
DLSS or AMD FSR and fully supports High Dynamic Range (HDR) pipelines. It also does not require per-game training like the latest version of DLSS.

crazyCoconuts275d ago

When the next GTA comes out this is gonna be the best hardware to play it on. PS may just clean up with this

ZycoFox275d ago

"best hardware to play it on" Until it releases on PC with much higher frame rates, detail & draw distance, but it'll be good for a double dip for those that won't want to wait.

The issue is that the game will be running on what will be pretty much a 6 year old CPU by the time the game comes out.

Einhander1972275d ago

@Number1TailzFan

Every time you say the same crap even though a half dozen different people have tried to explain to you what upscaling is.

You are purposely spreading misinformation, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised since digital foundry started the BS.

ZycoFox275d ago

@Einhander "Every time I say the same crap" and then you go on to say that Digital Foundry spread misinformation, LMAO. I've heard them called Intel shills when they used to show Intel processors running games better than early Zen chips (which they did) but that's a new one on me.

Whatever helps you sleep at night though.

Einhander1972275d ago (Edited 275d ago )

You go out of your way to post the same thing in every article about the Pro. So, it comes across like you're the one losing sleep over it.

But factually DLSS and FSR and upscaling in general whole purpose is to increase framerate by upscaling a lower resolution render.

And I trust PlayStation Engineers know what they are doing more than some clowns who make videos on the internet. Digital Foundry was also bragging about 12% for the SX yet PS5 has consistently outperformed xbox in the most games across the most graphical measurements. PS5 has overperformed every estimation they made for it.

And they also have been misinforming people about everything from how BC would work if PS5 would have ray tracing if PS5 would be able to support FSR and other ML how the SSD would benefit the console how Tempest works on surround sound and on and on, every false or fake rumor and misinformation about PS5 they have tried to amplify since before this generation even began.

They are the propaganda arm of Microsoft and they are a bunch of liars.

ZycoFox275d ago

@Einhander So you're gonna believe marketing over people who know what they're doing?

If you want to see real liars go and look at AMD, they've blatantly lied over processor performance at least 2-3 times, showing Zen 3 better than Raptor Lake, and now even charts showing false nonsense performance with Zen 5, which turned out to be a total flop since you can pick up Zen 4 chips from Aliexpress dirt cheap for the same performance and efficiency.

You can say DLSS this and that, yes it helps, but it's not a substitute for better hardware power.

Einhander1972275d ago

@Number1TailzFan

"but it's not a substitute for better hardware power."

Actually, that is EXACTLY what the point of upscaling is.

It helps lower hardware run at higher framerates than the amount of raw hardware power it would take to run it directly. Getting double framerates through upscaling isn't uncommon at all.

DLSS 3 in simulations can more than triple framerate.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurec...

ZycoFox275d ago

I'm obviously not smart enough for this conversation. There's your answer guys, PS5 Pro is all you'll ever need hardware wise, as long as you have DLSS you won't ever need a PS6 or 7.

Einhander1972275d ago

"I'm obviously not smart enough for this conversation."

So, please stop posting the same misinformation.

PS6 and PS7 will have more powerful hardware AND upscaling...

purple101275d ago

Yep, I’m also wondering how is gta gonna run on series s
What will the spin be when it gets delayed/ runs 720p

outsider1624275d ago

And perfect time to buy the physical disc of Wukong.

TheCaptainKuchiki275d ago

Yeah Sony is smart. These PS5 Pro + GTA 6 bundles are gonna sell like hot cakes.

Markdn275d ago

Nuber1TailzFan. What you miss everytime, as most pc master race people do, is the fact that 98% of console players don't care about Pc's. I am not saying anything negative about it. But they want to turn on and play, sit on there couch and enjoy. Nobody cares what else pc's can do. Nobody wants to spend upwards of 2k for that awesomeness you talk about. They just want to play. So enjoy your pc. We get it's awesome, but for most people gta 6 and Ps5 pro will be the best place to play it.

XBManiac275d ago

After PC. PS5 Pro, best console platform.

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KyRo275d ago

All that sounds great for the gamers who want more power. However if Sony lock frame generation and upscaling to the PS5 Pro, there should be uproar.

Upscalers are available on steam from £5 which makes potato PCs play games up to 4x higher frames. Upscalers and frame generation isn't hardware intensive so if they lock it behind a paid console upgrade, it would be pretty scummy.

crazyCoconuts274d ago

So your premise is that the PS5 Pro doesn't have special hardware to do the DLSS-like magic that the Nvidia cards do? And Nvidia is secretly keeping DLSS from working on non-RTX cards as well?
It takes custom hardware to do that real time. This isn't some simple upscaling algorithm

Obscure_Observer275d ago (Edited 275d ago )

@Einhander1972

"You are purposely spreading misinformation, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised since digital foundry started the BS."

So gamers are supposed to trust you instead DF and eagerly expect GTA VI to run at flawlessly 60fps on the Pro because it´s upscaler will perform some kind of miracle?

"And I trust PlayStation Engineers know what they are doing more than some clowns who make videos on the internet."

Did the Playstation Engineers promised 60fps for GTA VI?

"It helps lower hardware run at higher framerates than the amount of raw hardware power it would take to run it directly. Getting double framerates through upscaling isn't uncommon at all."

You know that upscalling from a 30fps signal is far from recommended as long visual quality is a concern. Bear in mind that when comes to new releases on consoles, Rockstar will always favor higher resolutions and attention to detail over higher frame rates every time of the year. They´ll save most resources from consoles weak/dated CPUs for physics and complex processing. That´s why 30fps for consoles always has been their sweet spot.

I heard the PS5 Pro´s upscaler will be powered by a new AI which might do all the upscalling process by itself without any input from the developers, so...I don´t know... I would be more careful before call the guys at DF liars because, Pro´s AI upscaler could be a game changer or a complete disaster on GTA VI´s case.

Keep that in mind because the same guys you´re calling liars will be the ones who will put the Pro´s performance and image quality under a microscope for everyone to see. And I guess a blurry GTA VI image from the PS5 Pro turned meme on internet is not what both Sony and Rockstar wants.

They say 'it's better to be safe than sorry'.

Einhander1972275d ago

I am 100% confident that the PS5 Pro will offer the best console experience with the highest resolution and the highest possible frame rates.

If I was you I'd be more concerned with whether the series s can play the game at all and if it gets delayed or canceled like so many games because of it.

JohnnyRambo275d ago

You have to remember that it's mostly console guys that visit this site, primarily Sony fans. So anything said against their machine will be automatically down voted, even if what you say has truth in it.

All I'm seeing is mostly cope here.

crazyCoconuts274d ago

You're not honestly predicting the PS5 pro won't play GTA VI better then the PS5 or the XSX, are you?

andy85274d ago

"Did the playstation engineers promise 60 FPS for GTA 6?" Well obviously not considering there's been no official confirmation it's at 30 yet 😂

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TheEroica275d ago

And they've given you concord to play... 🤷

Seriously though, these half stop consoles only have meaning when the games are pushing the edge... They're not. Every game this gen could've been made with a last gen release.

purple101275d ago

This guy Zuby on twitter has complied a list of time since last release of all PS studios, it seems to me they're almost all ready to drop something, and ps5pro is coming just round the corner, almost like sony planned it this way.!!

they had one bad year and we thought Sony fumbled the ball
we about to be eating good, more than that, Sonys laying on a veritable BANQUET OF AAA games around the pro model., people really thought sony was misplaced, they just taking their time. covid delayed things by a year I suspect and turned god of war / gt7 / horizon into mulligan games, but yeh, they are gonna show stuff soon.

• Bend Studio: 5 Years, 4 Months
• Bluepoint Games: 3 Years, 9 Months
• Firesprite: 1 Year, 6 Months
• Guerrilla Games: 2 Years, 6 Months
• Haven Studios: Fairgame$ 2025
• Housemarque: 3 Years, 4 Months
• Insomniac Games: 10 Months
• Media Molecule: 4 Years, 6 Months
• Naughty Dog: 4 Years, 1 Month
• Polyphony Digital: 2 Years, 6 Months
• San Diego Studio: MLB The Show Annual
• Sony Santa Monica Studio: 1 Year, 10 Months
• Sucker Punch Productions: 4 Years, 1 Month

purple101274d ago

@Number1TailzFan

"The issue is that the game will be running on what will be pretty much a 6 year old CPU by the time the game comes out."

good job its been in development for 8 years then. so they probably took that into account, also, the previous one managed to run on ps4, so I think its fine,

also for example:

'1.The PlayStation 4 Pro have a CPU with 8 Cores based on old Zen Architecture of AMD with a frequency of 2.3 GHz.

Whereas

The PlayStation 5 have a CPU with 8 Cores based on the New Zen 2 Architecture of AMD with a frequency of 3.5 GHz.'

so minimum 30% better, & thats without taking into account the new architecture and features not to mention ssd.

andy85274d ago

Even on PS3. So I'm pretty sure a CPU 15+ years newer will handle it 😂

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gold_drake275d ago

yup, the press section knew all about it.

S2Killinit275d ago (Edited 275d ago )

I want one ☝️ please

TwoPicklesGood275d ago

I fell for the PS4 pro and it was absolutely not worth it so no FOMO here. I’ll wait but the inevitable PS6. For those who haven’t bought a PS5 yet, you should definitely just get the pro.

XBManiac275d ago

Wipe Out VR? Only for that, PS4 Pro was great and needed. But there were more, of course.

raWfodog274d ago

“ For those who haven’t bought a PS5 yet, you should definitely just get the pro.”

Or if you’re like me, and looking for a 2nd PS5 so you don’t have to keep sharing with your kids, you’ll be getting the PS5 Pro instead of getting another PS5.

jznrpg274d ago

That exactly what I am doing. Kids get my PS5 I’ll get the Pro.

gaffyh275d ago

i'll get one if it is smaller than the current UNIT!

RupeeHoarder275d ago

Smaller than the shrunk down second version that just came out? I would anticipate it being the size of the OG PS5, but maybe they did some engineering magic. We shall see

TheProfessional274d ago (Edited 274d ago )

Why would it be the same size as the ps5? No reason it would be especially since one of the main criticisms was that it was oversized. The design was also bad so at least the pro should improve on it

andy85274d ago

I mean its not going to be smaller than the PS5 Slim is it 😂

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WRC gaming rights return to Nacon, KT Racing

The five-year deal kicks off in 2027, replacing EA and Codemasters.

TheColbertinator19h ago

I knew EA would ruin everything. Best of luck to Nacon and KT.

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Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time is a deeply compelling RPG life sim with a story that I have very little interest in.

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Celebrate Days of Play 2025 Starting on May 28

PS Blog - "From May 28 to June 11, take part in player activities, bonus PlayStation Plus content, exciting offers, and more."

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dveio5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Overall great deals for everyone I guess.

For me personally though:

• "players who join PlayStation Plus during this year’s celebration can save up to 33% on select 12-month memberships."

• "players who are currently a PlayStation Plus Essential or Extra member, save 33% on the remainder of your membership when upgrading to PlayStation Plus Premium/Deluxe."

Ehhh ... Days of Play last until 11th. My subscription expires June, 14th.

I literally am laughing at me rn.

DivineHand1251h ago

If Sony allowed subscriptions to be sold by third party sellers like they did in the PS4 days, you would not have this problem.

VersusDMC36m ago

That's why everyone should get their subscriptions now as last years days of play was may 29 to 12th of june. Mine is expiring on the 7th so i will just get essential or possibly extra this year.

And you can atleast get 15 days of extra or premium at 33% off to try it out.

P_Bomb4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Will see about getting my kid a cheaper PS Plus sub so he can backup and transfer his saves again. Really wish that was free ala XB.

Hopefully Destiny 2 The Final Shape comes with a free gear level upgrade like last year’s PS Plus offering. To bring you up to speed with all the content and everyone else. I still need to do a Nightfall Strike on Grandmaster difficulty, but ain’t got time to grind.

darthv724h ago

More like Days of Meh.... no specialized controllers or systems like in 2018 and 2019.

Eonjay3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I mean it feels like you are forcing yourself to be negative here. Those are some really decent deals tbh. Also, everyone thought PS5 would go up to match Xbox so going down is a nice surprise too.

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Eonjay2h ago

They did not confirm price increases. That is a lie.

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Eonjay38m ago

If you really beleived what you are saying why do you have to keep making alts to say it?

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Christopher2h ago

Boy, that's a real strange and specific goal post to have.

raWfodog57m ago(Edited 56m ago)

To be clear, what are you referring to when you say 'specialized'? Just wanted to know if you had a different take on these controller and system deals.

Deals on PS5 console offerings include:

In the United States and Canada, PlayStation 5 console – Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Bundle (Digital and Standard) will be available starting at $399.99 USD / $509.99 CAD (Save up to $119.99 USD / $159.99 CAD compared to buying separately).
In select regions such as Europe and Asia, PlayStation 5 console (Digital and Standard) will be on promotion, starting at €399.99 / £339.99 / ¥65,980.
$50 USD off PlayStation 5 Pro console

There will also be offers for PS5 accessories and games, including:

$50 USD off PlayStation VR2 and PlayStation VR2 Horizon Call of the Mountain Bundle
$30 USD off Pulse Explore wireless earbuds
$30 USD off DualSense Edge wireless controller
$20 USD off Access controller
$20 USD off DualSense wireless controller

repsahj3h ago

This is their way to counter Nintendo Switch 2 launch week. I might get the discounted annual premium subs, but I think the game lineup is weak.