CES 2009 : 3D Video player set for Xbox 360 and PC this Spring

Gaming.hexus writes:

At CES 2009, Next3D has revealed the Next3D player wihich will allow Xbox 360 and PC owners to receive theatrical 3D films, 3D IMAX films, movie trailers, real-time stereo camera webcasts and other 3D content directly to their screens.

[TrevorPhillips]

thats y i love both 360 and ps3 :)

[vhero]

yeah another idea MS has copied off Sony *sigh* nothing original anymore off them..

[kwicksandz]

/facepalm

Deal with it, emulating the competition is how consoles move foward. Unless you dont like your rumble, motion control, online gaming or analogue sticks.

[Sayai jin]

Ouch!

[ArmrdChaos]

First of all, this is a third party company providing the tech and not MS.

Secondly, I guess you didn't see the NVIDIA article on their 3D tech that they presented at the CES. So I am to assume that the week before the show word got out of this world changing tech that Sony invented which prompted NVIDIA to cobble something together to take to the show. Yeh...right.

Time the put the poms poms down and get educated. Sony DID NOT invent this tech. They simply applied the same process that they have been using in 3D movies to their system output...nothing magic about it.

You cheerleaders really need to grow up and just enjoy what you got.

[FarEastOrient]

Which technology is the Player even using, the 3D association hasn't even standardize the code yet! Even on the CES floor I saw three different formats and the one on the PS3s was a format that was used to showcase the technology. (Sony wants the format standardize so the firmware will be less buggy)

What concerns me is that the movies being shown in the theater are not in a standardized format, hence the throw-away glasses that is not being used from film to film. But when it is all sorted out I'll take a dive and upgrade my televisions and pc monitors to handle the 120hz to run the film.

Now why isn't the player coming to the Xbox 360 as a firmware upgrade so that developers can use the technology on their games.

[Mikelarry]

not bad new FUNCTIONAL ideas are always welcome

[Fishy Fingers]

Sounds almost to good to be true, and sadly it is as you require..

360 with HDMI and HDD (PC isn't stated)
A 3D ready TV (120hz + whatever else)
Shutter glasses

They need to get tech like this working with current HDTV's, I don't mind buying some glasses, but I'm not going to buy a new panel anytime soon. Seems like I'll be getting my 3D fix from IMAX for a few years to come.

[knoxin]

i may be wrong but i am sure i read that sony had it working with most Tv's LCDs hz above, i am sure it was a link off here?

But i am glad everyone is trying to get it to work on 360 and PS3 and you know what that means flame war, which console does it better

[Why dis]

I found the 2nd part of your post contradictive...

[player911]

All TV's should be capable of displaying the image. The 120hz is just to avoid any headaches (literally).

The reason being is because the glasses "flutter" open and closed opposite of the other eye. Your eyeballs need at least 60hz (bare minimum). Since the glasses flutter open and closed... it means they are closed 50% of the time and open 50% of the time. So for smooth animation you need 120hz which will give each eye 60hz.

10 years ago when the technology came out, LCD's and Plasmas weren't fast enough (which is why 3D technology went dormant). Having used the 3D glasses ALL the time, I found that 60hz will still give you a headache after 30-45minutes. For extended play, a setting of 75hz (per eye = 150hz total) was best.... plus that was the highest setting my monitor would do at my desired resolution.

So in conclusion, ALL LCD TV's should be able to display the 3D stereoscopic image to be used in conjunction with 3D glasses... whether or not your eyes will bleed as a result of under-par hertz rating depends on your TV.

I would think most TV's would be fine.

[Why dis]

Glad I have a new Samsung assuming you need all that stuff you just posted. I'm going to look into it I don't use Motion plus/120 frames per second on my set(I turn it off)

[Fishy Fingers]

"assuming"

Try reading in future, at the bottom it says "click here to sign up for the beta", it then informs you of whats required, and that is what I listed above.

I wouldnt of wrote it unless I knew it was factual.

[Why dis]

I'll wait and see if what you said in your first post is what they said and not just paraphrasing what happend at CES. I seen many 3D apps at CES some of which had nothing to do with 3D enabled HDTV's.

I did miss the new 3D equipped PC's at CES thoguh ;)

[Fishy Fingers]

Are you incapable of reading either articles or comments?

Bottom of the page, "Want to participate in the Xbox 360 beta? Sign up here.", click on it and it will tell you what you need.

360 with HDMI + HDD
3D ready TV
shutter glasses.

Seriously dude, what is so hard to understand? Heres the link, see for yourself, or do I need to draw you a picture? http://www.next3d.com/NEXT_...

I'm off to bang my head against a brick wall....

[Why dis]

I agree with the 2nd half of Number six's post :)

[badkolo]

this needing a new 3d ready set is mind boggling, why cant they do it without everyone needing a new set.

i want 3d but im not buying a new 3000 and up tv.

[Divinius]

Plasma, DPI, and all those old clunky computer monitors will display 3D images. Only LCD has a major problem unless it runs at 120hz.

[Sheddi]

Ive got a 32" plasma.
Does that mean i can run that 3D thingy?

[Emmo]

damn, I want this, but can't justify getting another TV. I'll have to sit back and see how it develops

[CrazyOrange]

how could i know if my TV support 3D or not ?
my 360 with HDMI and HDD

[tudors]

the other day on my LG32LXR or was it just pretend 3D lol? you do not need a 120hz TV for 3D, I expect it is a preference but it is possible without, don't believe me then go rent the film at Blockbuster, they even supply glasses.

[Fishy Fingers]

Yes, you DO need a 3D ready panel, the technology behind this and journey to the centre of the earth are completely different. The quality is far superior here than in that movie. This tech wouldn't work on a 50/60hz set. At least not in it's current form.

We're not talking about the old school red/blue glasses here.

Just read the articles...

[tudors]

"This tech wouldn't work on a 50/60hz set. At least not in it's current form"

maybe not up to your standards but it was still impresive, don't believe me or maybe go rent the movie and see for yourself.

[Fishy Fingers]

Seriously dude, did you even read what I wrote?

This technology renders the image in a completely different way, the movie requires a pair of red and blue lence glasses. That would NOT work with this technology.

Oh and yeah I've seen the film, it's ok, but like a said, the tech is not the same, it is far more advanced and a simple pair of glasses alone will not do anything with this. You need shutter glasses, which are clear liquid crystal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Dont believe me? Wait and see, or perhaps you could just read the articles.

[Droid Control]

can't wait for this!

[Capt CHAOS]

I mean, how much is a 3d telly??

[Godmars290]

You're missing the "this spring" part in the title, aren't you?

[Godmars290]

1) When Sony says it, its questioned, when MS says it, when something about the 360 is said, its not.

Talking about an article which called the 3D demo Sony did with the PS3 "already outdated" technology.

2) Owners of a non-HDD Arcade or any launch 360, which don't have HDMI, are pretty much screwed.

Geez, how is the 360 suppose to last 10 years when MS couldn't future proof it past 4?

[thenickel]

Instead of worrying about MS and 360 so much you should focus on what you know best the ps3.Its as if Sony fanboys can't find anything better to do than b!tch about some issue they have with 360 because they fail to get the picture this gen.

Back on topic: This is a cool and all but I hope we see some VR glasses soon.

[juststatingthefacts]

So this explaines why recently Sony came out and said 3D was old tech shortly after tooting their horns that they could do 3D Movies..............

[Kushan]

The reason you "need a new TV" is because for the 3D effect to work, TWO images must be drawn on screen, hence the 120hz requirement (60 * 2). Anything less and you'll either notice a flicker or you wont - but get a bad headache (or worse) after a few mins of looking at it.

[labwarrior]

I mean if it can output the right signal for those 3D ready TV's for movies, why not do it for games too ?

[Pixel_Addict]

You needed HDMI ports in order to achive the teroscopic 3D images. What about the millions of Xbox360 owners who adopted early and do not have an HDMI connection? Remember Microsoft, we don't NEED HDMI... remember that statment?

[lost2]

those older 360 have already exploded

[DrRage77]

yes, and sony said rumble controllers were "last-gen", yet they jumped back on that bandwagon....but all early adopters of ps3 don't have rumble controllers....remember Sony we don't NEED rumble in next-gen systems....remember that statament?

[Zeevious]

All early adopters could just pick up two Dualshock3's for $30 each at RadioShack like I did ., . . So that's settled...What's Microsoft's solution?

I'd like to know because although I have an HDMI port, I have several friends who don't, and even the $85-$150 Component to HDMI converters won't solve this problem.

With the new motherboards readied specifically to replace warranty returns, that doesn't even guarantee you're getting a model with HDMI because it's designed without HDMI to fit in the case before HDMI was included! http://www.engadget.com/200...

The hassle almost makes it worth just dropping $200 on an Arcade/Core replacement with it, and a couple games...But isn't that kinda like saying he only hit you once, and it was really your fault anyway?

I'm lucky to have my Elite, but I'm not everyone.

[DarkSniper]

Another useless feature for Xbox 360. Microslaves are amused by some of the most simplest imitations of their competition. Dark Sniper is already viewing his media in the third dimension by possessing the only blu-ray and gaming hybrid console. PLAYSTATION®3. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, yet Microsoft still cannot get something as simple as 3D right.

Dark Sniper will be enjoying his movies and gaming in the fourth dimension and b3yond.

$niper

[Deadman64]

Your also enjoying your virginity b3yond

[Sonyslave3]

lol it said spring where ps3fanboys got to wait for 2010 to play games in 3d ooops i guess yall leftbehind again.

[cryymoar]

do you have the required equipment to view this?
120Hz 3D ready TV?

This is third-party. The 360 won't even be able to utilize 3D games, just basic trailers and select movies.

I'm sure the PS3 will just need any HDTV, a simple firmware and the required glasses. So people like me will only need the glasses since I have an HDTV and firmware is easy as pie to get.

[beavis4play]

but wearing 3-D glasses isn't for me. i'm fine with blu movies as they exist now. i'm not saying the 3-D concept isn't cool....it is. but i'm just not into the idea of relaxing in an oversized chair(or on the couch) and having to wear some hokey 3-D glases while watching a movie. and i don't see anyone (sony,MS or whatever company)getting the masses to do it as the norm. it's a good gimmick, but i think that's all it will be.(at least until they find a way around wearing the glasses.)

[Emmo]

3D without glasses does exist, I have seen it and it was at CES, but this is a long way being available to the public.

[tudors]

so your one of the many sheep who will actually go out and buy a new TV just for this? I refuse point blank to believe that they could not achieve the same effect on current TV's, yet again we are forced to fork out for new tec before we have even got our moneys worth out of the present tec, so we have HD then super HD and then super HD3D, so our current TV's are basically rubbish already, I mean come on think how much these things are going to cost. It's ridiculous.

[dustgavin]

It is funny to see all the 360 users who were saying that it was "worthless" when it was announced for PS3. Suddenly, when Microsoft announces it, it is SOOOO Awesome!!!

[Boldy]

You know what's even more funny? People that don't read the article.

"At CES 2009, Next3D has revealed the Next3D player wihich will allow Xbox 360 and PC owners to receive..."

Where do you see MS anywhere in there?

[PS360PCROCKS]

whoa! Now I totally need a new TV! How awesome is that, the 3D game thing from Sony was cool but I think it would strain my eyes after awhile, constantly moving your eyes around the screen. But movies? That's awesome!

[Lord Xire]

I own an Sony XBR4 120hz ready.

Grand...

[Tiberium]

let me get this straight, this site is actually reporting news and not hate?

[bviperz]

is the sincerest form of flattery. So don't hate. Game.

[mushroomwig]

To think, Xbox 360 owners always seemed to mock how the PS3 was more of a media player than a games console...funny how things change.

[darthv72]

I know madcatz makes an adapter for the older 360. It sells for about $35 (US) and gives the old sku hdmi 1.2 (or is it 1.1) abilities.

With that said...my panasonic 42 plasma has a port on the back for 3d interfaces like the glasses. With the ps3 getting the support and now the 360, my tv is giving me my $$ worth.

[No Way]

Cool.

[Sonyslave3]

lol to all the people saying only ps3 can play game in 3d ahahahahhahahah

[mario888]

Problem is not all Xbox 360 come with HDMI as a standard ahahahahhahahah!

I hear it's a blueray player that you have to add to the 360.

So does that mean you have to buy a add on player to play 3d games?

You gotta love the 360 addons ahahahahhahahah!