As long-time fans of the franchise, here is what The Guide Hall would like to see from Ghost Recon Project Over!
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Skyrim, Rainbow Six Siege, Kingdom Hearts III, The Division 2, Chorus, The Gardens Between.
Today we’re happy to reveal the November Game Catalog lineup for PlayStation Plus. These games will be available starting November 15.
Wow. That's a lot of games. Still no PSP, PS1, or PS2 titles though....................
Yeah, but they are only putting back what was originally on PS Now in the first place. This isn't worth the Premium Tier as of right now. They need to do a lot better on their legacy consoles titles
Insane lineup! Was actually thinking of getting back into Skyrim and always wanted to give Division 2 a go but never around it.
Umm if you want to “get back into” Skyrim wouldn’t that mean you already own it? I mean like 95% or the human population owns a copy of that game in some format.
I’m just confused as to how you’re excited to get back into it when you could literally buy the game for $5-10 for years now. The Division 2 has also been $10 for a while now.
Your excitement just seems a little inauthentic and cheesy. If you really wanted to play those games you could have by now and for dirt cheap.
Haha alright, alright. Let me elaborate, sweety 😉
Last time I played Skyrim was back when it originally appeared on the PS3, so going back to it would feel like somewhat of a fresh experience, with better graphics ofcourse. Also never touched the DLC so that's a plus!
Since I have a full-time job and value my social life a lot, I don't have all the time in the world to try out every game I'm curious about. The Division 2 did spark my interest but since I was pretty disappointed by the first one I decided to give other games more priority. But now that I've got some time off from work and Sony is offering it through Plus, I might as well give it a shot. No way I'm able to finish it but that's ok.
Also, Im a big sucker for the old Kingdom Hearts games, so happy for anyone that's gonna give them a try.
Wether you agree with me or not, don't let it ruin your day, alright?
Man PS Extra just isn't impressing me. I dont care that there's no big AAA games releasing day one on the service but the stuff they are adding is just old filler. I've played already.
Gamepass games might not all appeal to everyone but at least they give a broad mix of new games. Road 96, Echo Generation, Turtles, Streets of Rage, Signalis, Ghost Song, Somerville. They're all great additions.
Sony should have made some deals to bring the likes of F.I.S.T. RollerDrome and Inscryption to the service or games like them. Something of value.
I guess I got the wrong impression when they gave us Stray.
I feel the exact opposite. I have only played three of those games. I'm definitely taking advantage of this month.
What you are saying makes sense for you because you have bought so many games. This isn't the case for most people. Services like this are great for finding and trying ges we might have been apprehensive about in the past. I finally get to try Ghost Recon, Earth Defense Force and KH 2.8
I understand your point of view tho.
Echo Generation was an absolute blast to play. And I am enjoying Signalis at the moment, in between OW2 play. I definitely agree tho, the offerings for PS+ seem to be left overs from GP, they definitely need standout titles to make their service more appealing.
I guess if you don't have both consoles these would be some good games to play, but again, just as you stated, Sony should make more deals to bring games like similar to Stray to their service.
There is another option; buy what you want to play instead of relying on a service to grant you access. All the games you mentioned are available for purchase. Sony is already granting a lot for only 120 yearly, that is equivalent to buying two games. Be grateful....
I have bought those games. Well with the exception of Rollerdrome, I havent got that yet. And I have a library of over 800 games so you don't need to worry about my spending habits. I'm just saying the value just isn't there in the service for me. I find they do fantastic with the choices of games for PS Essential but Extra is disappointing and Premium is a joke. They really did just rebrand PSNow and there's no extra effort being made here. As it is, if my sub was up this month I wouldn't renew it
Cool story bro, but I assure you that your spending habits are of no concern. While every person has their own taste, what stands out to me is the fact that you have 800 games but are complaining about what one serve offers over another.
I have well over 10k games but there is always an opportunity to discover and purchase more. Sony has one of the richest libraries acrossed several platforms so they don't need to offer more "appealing" games as they often just sell those. What sense would it make to give what's willing to be bought? GP has to appeal more because they're both losing market share and have a community of thrifty gamers. With a despondent economy of gamers you can't risk not offering everything to keep them engaged.
For now. Stray was a day 1 release for instance. So was shadow warrior 3
It's a great game! I got equally excited for Clid the Snail but that was a dissapointment.
Your opinion is the exact opposite of mine. I think the value of PSPlus is higher for my style of gaming.
Sony needs to just come out and address the state of PS1/PS2/PSP classics to the public.
I paid $28 in June to test out the premium. But it looks like I won't be renewing for $120 in Dec.
You do have a point. I want more classics. There loaded ps1 ps2 wise. Whats the deal. I still think the service is on par with gamepass where everything stands right now. But i need sone of those classic titles.
I was just wondering if I should buy Oddworld Soulstorm cuz it’s on sale
Now I don’t have to. Would’ve been mad if I bought a game only to have it be available on PS+ the VERY next week
They really need to up their game on the service, minus the nostalgic PS1/2 titles, it's been a disappointment since launch
Hows it been a disappointment. Theres some pretty great games on it. We all know 1st party games aint coming out on it day one so i hope that aint your disappointment.
Orchard, your comment is the opposite of reality. lol. I don't think they even added any PS2 games. They've added a few PS1 and PSP games.
The classics part of the service has been the worst part, and the part that people are actually complaining about.
Whereas, PS Plus Extra has been fairly good. Have you actually used the service ... ?
Don't have a problem with Extra or essential but I have an issue with the premium tier
Where are the promised PS1-Ps2 and PSP games?
https://blog.playstation.co...
You should try the deluxe their now that's a completely ignored made up tier for people outside of psnow streaming regions like Australia.
The additions we get are sparse at best and all the ratchet and Clank games that are now streamable were actually PS2 games so instead of bringing them to a proper local emulation solution they just stream them ignoring us deluxe members again
I said when it first launch. Deluxe/Premium is best to give another 2 years before anything worth while if you mainly focusing on PS1/PS2 games.
It was too buggy for me to complete. A quest bug (where I chose to pick up a ring instead of a werewolf pelt) meant it was impossible for me.
It was all over the Skyrim forums. Bugthesda knew about it and didn't bother to fix it to this day. Pathetic.
Bought the collectors edition day 1. Was bored of it within a week. I was extremely disappointed.
Already played all of the ones in this list im interested in.
I think they should try to do a little better next month. Good additions though.
Skyrim? Whats that never heard of it. But seriously, i will play chorus. Probably thats it. Got division 2 for 2 dollars on sale a year or so ago.
Definitely a good month.
As much as I like the Ratchet and Clank series though, the premium tier is still disappointing so far.
Ubisoft Quartz and its collectible NFTs have struggled to gain much traction with gamers, and that may be a good thing for the gaming industry.
I don't think Ubisoft are going to get it through their fat thick skulls either way, even with the incredible amount of backlash they've been getting for this.
In an exclusive interview with Finder, VP of Strategic Innovations Lab, Nicolas Pouard, spells out the future of Ubisoft's NFTs
NFTs are coming whether we like it or not. If they keep it separate to everything we do already as they say here, then perhaps it won't be too bad.
“ it won't be too bad”
People thought the same with DLC, MTs and Loot Boxes
It’s like a weed, if you don’t pull it out as soon as it sprouts the entire garden is overrun before you know it.
I remember we had to complain night and day to eliminate online passes. If the consumers stand strong, the publishers will back off.
Most people I know don't understand the concept of ''a stitch in time saves nine''
They'll keep it separate because in games it would be the exact same as DLC since it would never transfer outside of the game.
If there's enough whales you better believe this will seep into games. What if they started making actual levels or "deleted scenes" in games as NFT only?
They could try that route and I'm sure it would fail spectacularly. Nintendo did something very similar with the Skyward Sword Amiibo.
Gamers ate that up.
We shall see but as long as it's on an environmentally friendly blockchain it won't matter to me. I've never spent money on a micro-transaction for a video game and never will. So this will impact me very little regardless.
@Notellin that’s the Nintendo simp mentality. They can never do wrong. How can it have no negative impact if what you’re suggesting could potentially come true though? Your experiences will be limited or gated by this bs
DLC is already like that. Fighting game season passes, repackaged chapters of games...when CDR was still in everyone's good graces you don't think they had the idea of repackaged content? They did it the smart way where they gave a lot of content in their DLC, but they made everyone think it wasn't taken out to begin with even though we will never really know.
Games are already designed around monetization. Adding NFT will completely affect the philosophy and underlying core designs of games.
Just wait and see.
Games went from fun to chore to now work. Transaction and money will be the new future of gaming. In that mess new companies, new devs and new artists will show up with actual games. I look forward to those.
DLC, MTs, and pre-orders have already changed the core design of games. Hide coveted content for the purpose of adding additional purchases to our games instead of full fledged solid experiences with deserving sequels coming later. Instead we get grand promises, unfinished products, and additional “purchase options”. Pretty disgusting if you remember what games used to be about around the PS2, GameCube, and OG Xbox era.
Please, people are already doing exactly what NFTs will provide according to you. Millions are playing games like Destiny 2 and Apex where you play the game like a job grinding cosmetics.
Nothing will change but the acronym from MTX to NFT. The systems already suck and you guys eat them up daily.
@Notellin
''Please, people are already doing exactly what NFTs will provide according to you. Millions are playing games like Destiny 2 and Apex where you play the game like a job grinding cosmetics.''
This is what people are doing with no money involved.
Now imagine a money incentive??? Realistic levels of FOMO??
You have no clue
I agree with your first sentence, they're coming whether we like it or not.
But not your second sentence, it will be bad.
There are no positives from NFTs though. You have to pay for them with real money either way (buying new or re-sale). They don't guarantee you anything. As soon as the coin, exchange or the game are closed down, there goes your NFTs out of the window.
And it will be bad. It'll be like microtransactions, nowadays first and usually the only working thing in games is that damned in-game store.
It might be probably tolerable at first (though, i doubt even that), but it will quickly be the only reason for the game to exist. Wanna win? You gotta buy that $100+ NFT, «Axe of such stupidity». And because NFTs are built on uniqueness and FOMO, it doesn't bode well for anyone. Not to mention, they're open for speculation and scamming. What's stopping someone, associated with game publisher, to buy all the NFTs for pennies (before anyone else can buy them) and then sell them back to dumb people for hundreds of dollars? Nothing is stopping them. What's stopping scammers from sending fake links to NFTs and taking away people money? Nothing. It's just another way to take more money from trustful people. And not 100% of the money goes back to developers, exchange/coin owners take a cut from every sale and/or money deposit/withdrawal.
I don't know how anyone else, but i'm not buying products from anyone who sells or plans to sell NFTs.
And it's not to mention the whole video card/HDD/SDD prices spike, electricity consumption and ecology problems that those crypto-shit causes.
That's a very alarmist view. Firstly, the whole point of NFTs is that you do still get them even if the game closes or the exchange shuts down. Secondly, the costs won't change. A skin now and a skin as an NFT have no price or practical difference. it's just that a skin now you don't own. If the value of that skin goes down, well you're no worse off than if you had bought it as DLC. If the skin goes up, well lucky you. You're better off.
The one thing that will absolutely make NFT future shit is if gamers just rant about it, without understanding it so they can push back on the boundaries they want set.
@SlappingOysters
«Firstly, the whole point of NFTs is that you do still get them even if the game closes or the exchange shuts down.»
Firstly, i recommend you checking the "MetaBirkin" situation (there're probably more if you google that, but it's the most recent one). Yeah, blockchain still has a record that you bought an item, but it's unusable, you can't even show a link to a product you paid for.
Secondly, there's no such guarantee, no contracts and so on. Cryptocurrency and NFTs are considered an investment. If you lose all your money, no one is to blame.
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«A skin now and a skin as an NFT have no price or practical difference.»
There's a huge difference, too bad you don't see it. One of the main points of NFTs is that they're unique. That's a practical difference. 100 people can buy the same regular skin and it'll be the same for all of them. But only one can buy NFT skin (or equipment, or whatever they'll sell). And if there's even a small thing that differenciate two same-looking NFT skins (like a different serial number in Ubisoft Quartz intoduction video), people can and will charge more money for «better» serial number. If you don't believe me, look up license plates, in some countries people are willing to pay $20k for the car and $10k for a good license plate (like "111" or "999"). Or phone numbers, even some carriers offer premium phone numbers for extra cost. This is not a joke and it happens in a real world. And it will happen in a digital one too.
I would also like to point our that you contradict yourself. First you say there's no money difference, but in the next sentence you say that prices might go up and down. If that's not what you meant, then please, go on and check that Ubisoft Quartz announcement video i mentioned earlier, one of the "positives" they mention is that you can put your items on sale. And if you think that if a game is popular (or became popular recently) and that didn't affect the price of items (that players are selling), i can recommend you to check out Steam and it's marketplace. Prices are jumping all over the place and same will happen with NFTs. And because they're unique, no one can tell the correct prices for such items.
Or, you can check some blockchain game, like Axie and their pricing model. Prices are rising constantly, with no clear pattern, because why not?!
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«The one thing that will absolutely make NFT future shit is if gamers just rant about it, without understanding it so they can push back on the boundaries they want set.»
Nope. 3 things will make NFTs future shit - gullible people, media/influencers with zero integrity and publishers. Once again, check the microtransactions, what positives have they brought to gaming? Not a god damned thing. At first, it was multiplayer-only and skins, then lootboxes, after that - single-player. Next, they tried selling you gameplay-affecting items. And some interested parties (like media and/or influencers) are constantly making up excuses why we need that in games, ignoring them in reviews or just no covering them and any negatives in the news.
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But sure, call me an «alarmist». I prefer «realist» though.
NFTs are born out of the idea of art and collectibles. While I can see some people embracing this stuff, personally, I am into downsizing more then collecting now. Collectibles and art are for the richer versions of people as far as I am concerned. I have collectibles, but that was from a different time in my life. I won't see any money from them, but if I die, my kids may choose to sell them for profit.
If any vendor makes NFTs an integral part of the gaming experience that game will hopefully not succeed.
Progress, or regression in this instance, isn't some unstoppable force of nature that will happen no matter what we do about it.
No, it won't be bad, it's a good thing and will be well recognized in Metaverse. It's also an opportunity for investors, so as a player now you can play and invest.
As long it's not affecting my experience I don't mind either anyone would
The metaverse is just a gimmic.
You want to live in a virtualised world? We already do that with games and systems like second life.
Second life is basically the same thing which has been around for years but it not taking over the world like they claim the metaverse will do. Don't forget Home on playstation and where that went.
Will having items as purchasable items as NFTs add anyting we don't already have to our games like skins/gear/etc... no.
Will having the NFT item beof any help anywhere else in the Metaverse? that depends on how much extra programming the people who make the item want to put into it. But I can tell you one thing, if your having business meeting in the metaverse, your not going to turn up in the gaming NFT gear.
That's the problem I want to relax and unwind not to mining on virtual shit and invest them stop try to make video games a chore and a work, you NFT and bitcoin bots are ruining everything in gaming.
Explain why it's good. I've seen so many people say NFTs are good. Yet not one person has explained what NFTs bring to the table that we can't already do.
The metaverse a pointless marketing term that has no real world value. A place where you can use VR to cumbersomly shop and look at other people's avatars it's like a horrible version of PlayStation Home come to life. In short wasting time to do things that's are already much more streamlined.
Play and invest I don't want to invest in anything I have stocks if I really want to invest. I play for enjoyment
No. As a player you will now be unable to attain a lot more content just by playing and be expected to use more and more money in a game that may be abandoned within a year. Making all those purchases entirely useless.
Remember a time before our consoles were internet connected and a huge game was finished and complete on day 1 and you couldn't expand.it or include a pre order bonus. That was the last time I recall publishers not being greedy
I mean, how could they? They will however force NPC storefronts into every game they can. There is nothing as immersion breaking as an NPC trying to get you to spend real world money on cosmetics. I blame Bioware for it. They introduced that crap in their games to the detriment of us all.
Interestingly, they did state in that interview that it will be up to individual teams to decide if they want to align their game with NFTs. And also that they will use a new IP for P2E games. So that's something.
After the god awful Ubi Play I didn't touched a single Ubisoft game since Watch Dogs.
Their Quartz meant I will continue stay clear from any Ubisoft products.
“DLC will expand games” or My favorite “the mtx are completely optional…”
Now we have developers purposely holding out “detailed content” announced for games before day 1.
NFT's are just proof of ownership. If you have ever purchased any in game item before, this is the same but now you actually own the item rather than the company you bought it from owning it. That being said, unless the company supports a tangible use for it in their games, it kind of makes its value null.
So basically same old, different tech.
Is it that multiple people can get the items? Or is it a single item for the highest bidder?
Correct just like multiple prints of the same photo there can be multiple NFT of the same items. This would be decided by the collection owner. For example the Adidas NFT pass. It's the same NFT with multiple owners.
@Omegasyde Of course this uneducated internet troll didn't know this about the subject he's just shouting the loudest.
I believe it is way more than this due to the uniqueness of the transaction in my opinion can spark a new segment of the market for all media films, music, books and so on sold by the users themselves. Also the creator can receive a percentage with any further resale, imagine someone buying the new Assassins Creed game digitally for £60 and after beating it being able to resale it for £40 but the publisher in this case Ubisoft is able to take 10% from any further resale so in this case £4, the next owner resales it for £30 and so on. In my opinion that is where NFTs will shine as the ability to for users to resell their digital content and as you pointed owning it is key.
But the thing is, developers have no incentive to do that, using your example, player A wants to play the game, so he paid $60, now player B wants to play the game too, do you think a game company would want player B to buy from player A, so they earn $4, or buy from them so they earn $60?
@northpaws Are you really that bad at critical thinking? This is exactly what the publishers have wanted for 20 years to eliminate 2nd hand sales where they don't see any of the profit.
@Notellin
@Notellin
Talk about bad at critical thinking, NFT doesnt change anything, as long as there are physical, what does this change? And if they could eliminate physical, they would have done that, why would they want gamers to sell games to each other and only earns a few bucks each time?
So there are only 2 scenarios.
1) People still trade games physically, NFT doesn't change a thing
2) The game industry somehow eliminated all physical, and they are now more than happy to not let anyone pass the ownership of their digital games because that lower their income significantly.
These NFTs implementations right now are born for one purpose, to make more money off gamers, not less, by selling artificially unique digital items.
explain to me @northpaws how that is any different to now. What difference does it make to you if a skin is an NFT or not an NFT. I'd rather have the option to sell it on, rather than to have no option at all. The cost to get it does not change. Quartz is very clearly not an investor market. You can't even get a skin unless you buy a $70 game and play a significant amount of it.
Own a "digital" something??
We've owned "digital" games before. Then seen them removed entirely from "digital" store fronts
For those who may not know, the Xbox Game Pass is run on blockchain. I'm pretty sure the Epic Games Marketplace is, too. Which means probably Fortnite as well - if it's not already it will be. It also probably means most games on UE5 will, too.
The companies are already using the tech and we love the application without complaint. Game Pass is great. Ubisoft has just had the guts to say, what if we used this tech to give you the ownership.
https://customers.microsoft...
All the transactions and royalty payouts aree done on blockchain that runs on Azure. Ubisoft also licenses that tech to handle all its transactions. https://www.blockchaingamer...
Gamepass is ran on Microsoft servers. The analytics they collect are too valuable to Microsoft to be given up.
Server solutions is literally their main business.
Like how microtransactions aren't "forced" upon players? I mean sure they're not forced but some games, if you're not buying MT or DLC, you're missing out on a lot of the game.
I've never bought MT or DLC, and have never felt like I'm missing out. Just saying.
Ubisoft in the press: We promise not to force players to use Quartz
Ubisoft back at HQ: We will absolutely force players to use Quartz
What a bias rubbish article it the writer basically calls gamers idiots for taking a stand against a technology that is still unproven and no one in the industry has been able to articulate a meaningful use of it.
In summary it's a nft fan interviewing the lead of the Ubisoft nft team.
The writer spends the whole argument asking questions like do you think gamers will realise when they are wrong.
Pure garbage
I’ve got diamond hands when it comes to never purchasing NFTS and so should you. What a scam. Feel sorry for the people dropping they’re months rent on some corporate level scam
I refuse NFTs. I was already done with Ubisofts terrible products(odyssey, Valhalla being complete garbage as far as I’m concerned), but their insistence to include NFTs in their games means I’ll never come back.
I hope there are others who feel the way I do.
There are others who feel this way as well. Ubisoft was an amazing publisher for many years, and then they started sinking deeper into mediocrity and eventually worse when the PS4 / XB1 generation started.
They started focusing too much on pre-order bonuses (4 different stores with 4 different unlockable missions to get as a pre-order bonus -- BULLSHIT!), and micro-trash-actions, endless grinding filler game design. Just 'chore work gaming'.
Ubisoft games aren't about having fun anymore, they're about nickle and diming you at every opportunity. I stopped buying Assassin's Creed games after Syndicate. I did play Origins and Odyssey for free, but I disliked both games (did beat the story campaign on both, though). Bad stories, bad characters, bad game mechanics, bad game design, overall generic boring slogfest simply to waste your time.
I skipped Valhalla, I don't care about the story or characters anymore, I don't care about what happens next, I know in advance that the series and Ubisoft as a whole are creatively bankrupt at this point. They literally just announced yet another Ghost Recon game, so soon after the trash Breakpoint.
While I will continue to play their classic games, I no longer have any desire to support them in the future. Such a shame, because they didn't have to become worthless trash, they chose to become worthless trash.
Ubisoft's NFT promise: 'We won't force our players to use Quartz
In other words, they will find a more "insidious" way to make you buy these, whilst calling them by a different name
Back in my day games were just meant to be fun and challenging. Now it's about a time and money investment. Gaming lost its way long ago. My soul weeps.
It looks like some people are going to live in an empty room in the real world, and sleep on the bare ground, because they're willing to spend it all on their virtual world presentation. Thanks, but without me.
I'm going to boycott this as well as the gaming outfits and the gaming currency. I wish hackers a successful hunt
a virtual item that only exists in one copy (just another number on the helmet, different appearance, picture, furniture, etc.) and goes on to be sold out of the game. But there is also a commission from each transaction to the manufacturer (in this case, ubisoft). The payment is made for cryptocurrency, at special NFT markets.
Easily earned money for the manufacturer, very doubtful and uncertain investment for the buyer (unless there is an even bigger fool who will buy your $500 virtual socks for $1,000.)
It's basically just DLC, but instead of it being a passive thing you buy and use then lose, you buy it and retain ownership. So instead of the copany having the power over it, you have the power over it. So it's a good thing in theory, as long as they keep it that pure.
Thanks for the replies. Sounds interesting but I can't help but doubt it'll remain pure.
I don't know about anyone else, but to me, the direction that gaming is going in is getting scary.