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Palworld dev slams lies and blind 'hate campaign' sullying Pocketpair's reputation

The Pocketpair community manager has slammed the blind lies and continuous 'hate campaign' aimed at Palworld.

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Sgt_Slaughter135d ago (Edited 135d ago )

I mean, they should get flack. They stole designs and art, as well as used AI. They also did the same thing when it came to their other game which was a ripoff of Hollow Knight

Christopher135d ago

All claims of stealing assets were from someone who modified assets to make them look the same AFAIK.

Michiel1989135d ago

most games are ripoffs of something with their own spin on it, except we call it iterating. As long as the so called "rip offs" are fun and good, I'm all for it.

thorstein135d ago

Delete all your social media. The majority of people playing your game don't care what people are saying.

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Japanese & Western Fanbases Have a Very Conflicting Opinion on the Palworld vs Nintendo Lawsuit

TNS: "Palworld developer's readiness to take on Nintendo's lawsuit is met with a mixed response -- mostly from the Japanese side of the player base."

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TheNamelessOne1d 15h ago

My opinion it it's another BS lawsuit on Nintendo's part.

Vits1d 4h ago

Well, the good news is that this shows Japanese Twitter users are just as dumb as Western ones. It’s not a copyright-based lawsuit; if it were, things wouldn’t be as dire and concerning as they are. Nintendo is suing them for patent infringement, which should be a huge red flag for anyone who enjoys gaming, as Nintendo holds numerous patents over game mechanics that could significantly impact the market if they start enforcing them.

Seriously, they hold patents for features like fast travel and summoning companions or creatures to help you battle enemies. That’s the level of nonsense we’re dealing with here. So even if you’re a huge Nintendo b*tch, if you care about gaming at all, you shouldn’t be happy - let alone support them in this situation.

FinalFantasyFanatic9h ago

I honestly hope this lawsuit just gets thrown out of court, having a patent on game mechanics just shouldn't be a thing, especially when those mechanics are present in many games. If this goes through, imagine the hell on earth we'd go through as everyone starts tossing lawsuits around like missiles.

northpaws8h ago

Sure, they are suing for patent, but it all started because pocketpair copy pokemon designs, otherwise Nintendo couldn't care less.

JunonZanon6h ago

Nintendo is only suing because Palworld has been massively sucessful.

NotoriousWhiz6h ago

Nintendo decided that the Palworld developers needed to be sued. Realized they had no case for copyright infringement so went into their bag of tricks (patents) to see what they could stick em with.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 3h ago

No offense to japanese but supporting nintendo here is dumb.

northpaws8h ago

I do think Nintendo needs to chill on some smaller projects, but in this case, it is a company purposely copying pokemon designs and promoting it as Pokemon with guns, then sell it for money and even try to sell merchandises (according to the articles), I don't think that is acceptable.

And sure, disagree with me, so you can act like you fight for the small guys and feel awesome or whatever.

Lionsguard8h ago

Oh look another one who just THINKS they know what the issue is without actually reading into what is actually happening. Maybe read and come back so you can actually be up to speed on what the lawsuit is even about.

porkChop6h ago

This lawsuit is really putting into perspective just how little people actually read the news. They just read headlines and fill in the rest with their own assumptions. This is why short form content is becoming so popular. People only have the mental capacity to digest bite sized pieces of information.

The_Blue7h ago

That's some simple minded logic

NotoriousWhiz6h ago

"it is a company purposely copying pokemon designs and promoting it as Pokemon with guns"

This entire statement is false.

OldDuffer5h ago

You appear to not know the difference between copyright or patent.
You might feel that ripping off pokeman is not ok, but they are legally in the clear on that which is why Nintendo are not able to take legal action under copyright law.
Trying to sue them based on patent law however is rediculous, you absolutely should never be allowed to patent game mechanics like nintendo have with things like 'fast travel' and i hope they make very little headway with this. If you care abiut the future of this business, you would acknowledge the difference and not be shilling for Nintendo.

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Palworld maker vows to fight Nintendo lawsuit on behalf of fans and indie developers

Palworld developer Pocketpair has responded to this morning's dramatic decision by Nintendo to file a patent infringement.

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GotGame8183d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Palworld is better, but Nintendo has$$$$ They can fight it all they want, but will absolutely lose. It is a blatant Pokemon rip off. I do wish them luck though.

RedDevils1d 9h ago

Go check Dragon Quest you would know where Pokemon got their ideas from.

MeteorPanda1d 9h ago

The character design is NOT the issue here. Pokemon patented bullsht. You can patent "Throwing an item to capture a virtual character and another action to release an item that releases a combat character onto virtual world" but my god that is vague as fuck and shouldnt hold in any court...and the kicker? it was patented AFTER palworld was made.

If this lawsuit goes through that is literally going to work on every single monster capture game,

Lionsguard1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Like the other guy said, this has nothing to do with any of the designs. This is Nintendo patent trolling. It's like Rockstar suing another game if they have a guy opening the car door and yanking them out to steal the car because that's why you do in GTA so therefore that game is infringing on GTA's "patent". And that's the reason why Pocketpair is fighting this because if they lose this opens the doors to MORE lawsuits of this kind.

Profchaos1d 12h ago

Weren't the wire models used in palworld ripped out of Pokemon in the end?

porkChop1d 12h ago

No they weren't. That was proven false. And, again since people don't seem to understand, this is not a copyright lawsuit or about stolen content/assets/designs/etc. It's a patent lawsuit. So far all the possible patents I've seen were filed by Nintendo 4 months *after* Palworld released.

Profchaos1d 10h ago

Then I have no clue what this is about specifically

--Onilink--1d 10h ago

The catching mechanic patent was filed even before Arceus was released, I dont know which ones you have been watching because all the ones I’ve seen were before Palword came out
(Though not all have been approved in the US yet, just in Japan)

porkChop1d 9h ago

The patent for the catching mechanic was filed July 2024 and granted August 2024. It was filed on top of a separate, "parent" patent that had been filed in 2021. Nintendo filed new patents and had them expedited just so they could sue Pocket Pair/Palworld.

MeteorPanda1d 8h ago

it's so dumb. if that patent holds any water in court - any monster capture game is done and gone. cnts.

NotoriousWhiz21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Source that says it was filed in July? I couldn't find it. And everything I can find states that it typically takes around a year or more for patents to be approved.

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jznrpg1d 12h ago

On behalf of their money seems like the biggest reason

Kneetos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

People want Nintendo to lose as a big middle finger to the company, but if Nintendo wins then they set a precedent for others to follow which could be bad for Nintendo themselves if they end up infringing on a patent owned by someone else

The one I'm reminded of is, a few years ago Sony patented something to do with AI controlling a characters moments in a game to "help get past difficult or grindy parts" of a game

Mario kart 8 deluxe had a the auto acceleration and auto steering technology implemented, so potentially if that came back for mario kart 9 could possibly open the door for Sony to sue them if it's close enough

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Filing Lawsuit for Infringement of Patent Rights against Pocketpair, Inc.

Nintendo and Pokemon Company have filed a lawsuit against Pocketpair Inc., the creators of Palworld, in Tokyo, Japan.

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Number1TailzFan3d ago

Ye, Custom Robo Arena was a lot better than Pokemon anyways, now that's a game.

Eonjay3d ago

Interestingly this comes like a day after they announced they would be at the Tokyo Games Show.

Vits3d ago

We should all really hope so. Otherwise, this could lead to many issues, as they hold patents on numerous game mechanics. And when I say numerous, I truly mean it. Take this one, for example:

"Abstract: In an example of a game program, a ground boarding target object or an air boarding target object is selected by a selection operation, and a player character is caused to board the selected boarding target object. If the player character aboard the air boarding target object moves toward the ground, the player character is automatically changed to the state where the player character is aboard the ground boarding target object, and brought into the state where the player character can move on the ground."

In plain English, do you guys remember that super amazing mechanic where you surf on the water with a Pokémon, and then when you hit land, it changes to you walking? Yeah, they patented that.

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porkChop3d ago

A patent lawsuit? What Pokémon-related patent could Palworld even be infringing that other similar games haven't? This makes no sense. Feels like Nintendo just trying to throw its weight around to bully competitors, just like they do with emulators even though they're legal.

Kaii3d ago

They can't Innovate their own IP, but when others are breaking the ceiling, they run to the courts, gtfo Nintendo/Gamefreak.

Companies' gatekeeping mechanics behind the patent system to stifle innovation, consumers will always pick the better product, it's not the consumer's fault that Gamefreak has sat on their lazy assess for years.

Kornholic3d ago

"Consumers will always pick the better product"

Since when?

swedishMeatwad2d ago

You can't argue with _subjective_ taste. Some people are going to like games you find crappy. I'm happy not everyone has the same taste.

Kornholic2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@swedishMeatwad

PS5 Pro is obviously objectively the better product when compared to the base PS5, but the majority of consumers interested in a PS5 will not be picking Pro over base PS5.

There are countless examples like this out there.

The_Blue3d ago

Rather you like it or not COD has many accessible options and customization that allows for better experience than most other FPS.

Knightofelemia3d ago

The Palworld has been out since January of 2024 and now Nintendo finally decides to do something. I fail to see how Palworld is like Pokemon besides evolving monsters. There are other games out there as well where you can capture and level up monsters. Tales of Symphonia 2 does that capture monsters and have them fight with you and they evolve when levelling up. The two games might share some similarities but what game doesn't borrow from another game. I could understand if Palworld was just a straight on copy clone of Pokemon but it's not. Nintendo is starting to become a pain in the ass. Going full gung ho with rom sites that I can see, purposely taking down pictures from a strategy guide for Mario 64 the strategy guide never came to North America and Nintendo had the pictures taken down. Where does it every stop with Nintendo?

babadivad3d ago

Monsters don't evolve in Palworld

Software_Lover3d ago

It's because Palworld became a worldwide viral success. Nintendo can't fathom someone else being that popular when it comes to a small monster catching game.

VersusDMC3d ago

Nintendo is only acting now because they just finished a lawsuit which they won.

https://www.nintendolife.co...

Atlus should get on this and sue Nintendo as SMT came out before Pokemon. If Nintendo is going to play this game.

isarai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

This feels like a scare tactic more than anything else. There's nothing here dozens of other games haven't already done, they're just mad this game showed people how much the pokemon series has been slackin and are desperately trying to make an example out of them.

How's about instead of spending all that money on court fees and lawyers you invest it into making pokémon better?

Profchaos3d ago

I think if it was a scare tactic it would have happened when the game came out I have a feeling they've been building a case for a while

isarai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It did happen even before the game came out, they tried several tomes before and nothing came of it

Profchaos3d ago

I was pretty sure the only statement they made was they would investigate

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