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Ubisoft Is Pulling Out All The Stops To Ruin Star Wars Outlaws

Hanzala from eXputer: "Ubisoft takes away even the right to own Star Wars: Outlaws as if the ridiculous pricing and uglified characters weren't enough."

TheLigX100d ago

Im all in with the author on the business practices side of things…. But the “uglification of the character”? Lol. Dude is a nut.

CrimsonWing69100d ago

What weird is Ubisoft has always been doing this tier thing and for the same prices. Look at Valhalla and tell the tiers and pricing, look at Division 2, but now all of a sudden we choose this hill to die on.

What about other publishers? I know I bought the third tier for Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth never once saw an article about that.

There’s some vicious mob mentality going on and this chick is nowhere near as fugly as what Xbox is pulling with Fable. There’s literally a couple angle shots on this b*tch that makes her look weird, but I can snapshot you a bunch of others where she looks fine.

Like, what in the hell is going on that made this the hill to die on? Remember Red Dead 2 having multiple tiers and content locked behind tiers? We did boycott that game to be burned to the ground and string up the publishers.

Markusb33100d ago

there was an internal memo at xbox asking dev teams to not make females with curves and sexy, make of it what you will.

notachance100d ago

tbh the first time I saw the latest fable trailer I laughed at the main character's face, there's no way that sh*t isn't on purpose

Crows90100d ago

To be fair...Xbox hasnt shown fable recently and fable isn't star wars.

More current attention means conversation will focus around current events. As we approach fables release you can bet people will talk about how ugly that character is if it hasn't changed and more specifically if there's no character creator to adjust that ugliness

Profchaos100d ago

The difference with rdr2 and this is you can never ever play this pay walled mission. Rdr 2 was just a horse you got early and some online currency.

But GTA v has flying missions pay walled and no one noticed.

Anyhow it's not the first time.ubisoft has done this assassin's Creed IV had a entire PS exclusivity mode story while watchdogs had a few PS exclusive missions

shinoff2183100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

I think because with ubisoft it's a pretty big pattern and I think more and more people are getting upset about it. Ubisoft are the biggest abusers of this practice.

Also the other point. Even if you think the chick is ugly. So what it's a video game character. Do they all have to be society's standard beautiful

VincentVanBro100d ago

Why do you care? Regardless of how long this practice has been in place, why would you defend it? Do you like having to pay extra $$$ for a complete game?

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Eonjay100d ago

Here is a picture of the article writer Hanzala Iftikhar: https://exputer.com/author/...
Can someone tell this guy to GTFO. Isn't it funny how we have the revenge on the toads running around calling everyone else ugly.

And totally agree with you on the business end. Especially with the dlc mission. Its like they want to fail.

Crows90100d ago

Okay so down below you grab the best possible picture of the games character....and the most middling angle and lighting for the actress. Good job...

Eonjay100d ago

@Crows90
"Okay so down below you grab the best possible picture of the games character....and the most middling angle and lighting for the actress. Good job..."

I used the SAME EXACT image from the article itself. They same one they used to call her ugly. Oh, did you not read the article? Good job...

RiseNShine100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Hve you seen the real model? Her name is Humberly González, and She's like 10 times more beautiful than the game's character, just google it and looks at some pictures, it's pretty clear they have uglified her on purpose.

smolinsk100d ago

No it's not. The character in the game has a lot more charisma from the trailer we have seen. She is not ugly Just a little normal with some sweet and charming characteristics to her like the dimple in the chin and high cheekbones. The girl that motion captured her looks boring and yes beautiful but so non charming and special. just the classic boring beautiful.

Vees is perfect and nice to see them doing normal with a curve

Eonjay100d ago

Wait... you are for real saying that this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media...
is 10x more beautiful than this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

I don't get it. Are you just trolling?

CrimsonWing69100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Troy Baker didn’t look like Joel.
I think they wanted this character to fit in the world and environment. She’s a down on her luck smuggler and looks the part.

Most game characters don’t look like their voice actors. Take the FF7 cast for example.

dumahim100d ago

@CrimsonWing69

Troy Baker wasn't the model for Joel. It'd make sense if you used an example of the actual model used for the character appearance.

CrimsonWing69100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

@dumahim

Can you link me an article saying the character was modeled off the voice actor?

I 100% see this as an artistic decision and not a woke one. She fits in with the scoundrel looking smuggler kinda of characters. People are f*cking over reacting. We’ve gone through so much bullsh*t with woke character designs… I have no clue why this is the one everyone and their mother is taking a stand on. Like, what world am I living in?

MeatyUrologist100d ago

Eonjay: I definitely think the actual voice actor looks better than the Freddy Mercury spawn looking character they came up with. Just seems weird with the games industries push for diversity and representation that they would take an attractive woman of color and make her an unattractive bland looking white woman.

MontyeKristo99d ago

Eonjay

Considering one is a real life pretty woman and one is a video game character made out of pixels - yeah. She is.

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Inverno100d ago

What's nuts is that people can't seem to tell the huge difference between the models and who they're modeled after. It's not just unflattering angles, female protagonists in games are ugly as all hell. The excuse is always "you don't know what real women look like", which is ironic cause neither do the ones that say that know it seems.

MrBaskerville100d ago

Character seems cool. I think most gamers are just a little brain damaged from being online.

JackBNimble100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Disney alright fucked the star wars, at this point it's just another game.
Buy it or not the star wars franchise will never comeback from what Disney has done to it.

isarai100d ago

Whyd they add butt chin and laugh lines since the reveal tho?

https://www.reddit.com/medi...

Killer2020UK99d ago

Agreed. Ubisoft really suck at this stuff. I feel sorry for the devs who've put in all that work to make a videogame only to have execs and money men create a load of bad faith by shoehorning in monetisation everywhere they can.

This "uglification" thing is nonsense though. If devs don't want their characters looking like they've just stepped out of a salon then that's fine. It's not some grand conspiracy and even if it was, what a hill to die on.

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ROCKY28100d ago

UBI is SOFT and so are all the executives in SF

Eonjay100d ago

Its a perfect example of how greed destroys. Its like they still don't get it. Imagine being so greedy that you turn everyone off and get nothing.

ROCKY28100d ago

they once were the king of the hill years back - but they have fallen based on ego's and greed
sad but true

Markusb33100d ago

Ubisoft are going to see this fail and it deserves to, esecially after the whole, gamers need to get used to not owning their games statement. Pricing and paywalls for single player is insane. The trend of making charaters androgynous is clear and has been going on for a while, tied to ESG social credit scores etc, pretend its not real thats fine but its how games are funded these days. You can say it doesnt matter, if that is true why spend time, effort and money changing the characters? Also why facial scan a beautiful actress and then change her, dont waste money paying her for a scan, japanese and korean devs seem to be fine making characters look just like the people they paid for their likeness.

Gameseeker_Frampt100d ago

Everyone calling the character model ugly to fit their social agenda would probably be posting videos/articles complaining about Alien and The Terminator if they were released today. "Woke Hollywood is butchering female characters - instead of getting supermodels we are forced to watch Sigourney Weaver and Linda Hamilton!"

Nobody complained about the way the Kay Vess looked in the cgi trailer last year. Ubisoft didn't change the way the character model looked from then to now. What did happen is players got to see the difference between the cgi and actual gameplay graphics - which for any gamer with half a brain shouldn't be surprised that everything is downgraded when it comes to Ubisoft. Watchdogs, The Division, Assassin's Creed, Far Cry - what they use to sell you the game looks nothing like what you get when you buy it. Why are the people upset with the "uglification" of Kay Vess not also complaining about how bad Galen looks now?

-Foxtrot100d ago

When it comes to the character ask yourself, why is it male characters look almost identical to their actor but the female ones don’t

It’s a trend

Cal from the Jedi games looks identical to the actor, yet she doesn’t.

It’s not just this game it happens with most western games these days

Eonjay100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

No. Absolutely not. Chris Judge doesn't look like Kratos. Nolan North Doesn't look like Drake. Troy Baker has 50 different roles he has played and he doesn't look like any of them. Eve from Stellar Blade has her artist's body but not her face. It is exceedingly difficult to find ANY Japanese voice actor or actress that looks like their game model. Like at all. Ben Starr doesn't look like Clive. This lie has to stop. There is no trend. There is just a weird movement where people want the medium to reflect what they deem as acceptable. Its brainwashing. Don't let them get you.

-Foxtrot100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

I’m talking about FACIAL models who allow them to use their likeness not just mocap actors

Kratos isn’t based on Chris Judge facial wise is he

However Leon S Kennedy in the RE Remakes has a voice actor and face model

Sure there’s exceptions but my point is when it does happen it’s mostly the female characters who suffer

Crows90100d ago

Absolutely wrong you continue to be.

He didn't say the voice actors look like all the characters they're voicing. When you try to make them look and represent each other....yeah that's where apparently some devs have a wicked hard time.

Eonjay100d ago

Obvious we are both men, but I highly doubt any woman legitimately looks at Kay Vess and thinks they are 'suffering' lol. In fact, as people mentioned, last year NO ONE had anything negative to say about her looks. If we are talking about the FACIAL models, then can we agree that the model they came up with for her face isn't bad... like at all?

romulus23100d ago

Doesn't Senua look just like Melina Juergens?

isarai100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Also since the reveal they gave her a butt chin and extra laugh lines alongside other small tweaks to her facial features for no real reason.

https://www.reddit.com/medi...

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Star Wars Outlaws' Economy Needs to Burn a Hole in Kay's Pocket

Star Wars Outlaws needs to do everything in its power to avoid a common economic pitfall in games that focus on acquiring massive wealth.

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YourMommySpoils1d 10h ago

To whoever buys the game, it will sure be burning more than Kay's pocket.

anast1d 9h ago

I'm still playing it even if the character looks like Rocky from 1985's Mask.

jznrpg1d 5h ago

Lol does the character really look like the ginger elephant man?

Knightofelemia1d ago

I'll watch the game being streamed and base a decision off of that. I myself I am not a big Star Wars fan.

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Star Wars Outlaws Has Highest Marketing Budget for a Ubisoft Game Ever; Strong Launch Expected

Star Wars Outlaws will have the highest marketing budget for a Ubisoft game of all-time, company expects a strong launch.

Hofstaderman5d ago

A single player game that has to have an internet connection? No buy.

CrimsonWing695d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I think it’s just to install though 🤷‍♂️

I mean, you have to have a network connection to be on here 🤔. I don’t see what the big deal is.

shinoff21835d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It's a big deal because maybe someone does t have internet all the time. It's a big deal cause some live in areas where internet is constantly having problems, it's a big deal because it shouldn't be a thing. Needing an internet connection is a dick move, and with that there's no reason the full game couldn't be on disc from the jump.

CrimsonWing695d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@shinoff

It’s literally JUST to install the game. If your internet cuts out every 5 minutes then you have some bigger issues that need to be addressed. It is not a “dick” move to require internet in this day and age, you need it for basically 95% of all media entertainment and we’re not in the 90s anymore where we’re stuck with dial-up. So, I’m sorry but the excuse of “people don’t have internet all the time” is quite possibly the dumbest thing at this point in time.

You’re telling me they have access to a $500 device, $70 games, but 0 internet or the worst internet in the world and no means to fix that? And if they are in a third-world country where internet is only available at cafes I really want to know how PS5’s or Xbox’s are acquired… because that isn’t making a ton of sense to me, either. I also want to know the % of that group that make up the total of game sales in comparison to countries with great internet.

How many of those people play on PC? Because here’s a news flash, bud, Steam requires an internet connection to install… so, welcome to 2024, pal.

Oh, and here’s some other food for thought, what are the games that make the most money out of all games currently on the market? I believe Fortnite requires an internet connection and it seems to be doing JUST fine… oh, and what about all the mobile games that make billions and outdo hardcore console/PC titles in terms of revenue? I’m pretty sure all of this requires some form of network connectivity because, well, how else do you make a micro-transaction?

SO71D4d ago

@CrimsonWing69

So if the game gets delisted and is no longer purchasable or playable, you're fine with that?

BlackOni4d ago

I get where you're coming from, and agree that if it's just to install the game, you kinda NEED internet to install any game on PC, but for consoles you don't and shouldn't. Lemme explain.

I spent a vacation in the Rocky Mountains in TN, and the internet services AND cell reception there were both HORRIBLE. I couldn't even upload a video, it just kept failing, and downloading basic videos took sometimes a whole day. We take it for granted, but there are still swathes of the US that don't have reliable and consistent access to the internet. It's why infrastructure bills keep getting introduced.

NO ONE should not have access to the internet, it's sorta a basic need at this point, but there are a lot of people who don't reliably have it. Sounds crazy in 2024 to type that, but that's where we're at.

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CobraKai4d ago

As long as i don’t have to be online to play, it’s ok

Tacoboto4d ago

The same exact online requirement that Hogwarts Legacy had, but no one here cared about that last year...

CrimsonWing694d ago

It’s crazy, man. It’s almost like someone saying, “an update patch requires internet to download/install!? No BUUuuuUuuYYY!!!!”

And the response is always the f*cking same, it’s always, “but what about people who don’t have internet or bad internet?” How many of you all are using PS+ or GamePass? All that requires a network connection to download your complimentary free monthly games… do you all refuse to download those because they’re digital!?

As for the “delisted” response, look at Steam that’s been around for ages and look at games you can still go back to. Physical doesn’t last forever, you can boomerang the same thing and say, “what if there’s no physical copies left to acquire or the version you have no longer runs?” Maybe as long as Ubisoft exists you’ll be able to install patches for the game. You still can for Xbox 360 games… and I mean what if there’s a “game breaking bug” that requires a patch? What will you do then? Just play the game until you trigger the bug because all yoi have is the physical version and no access to the internet?

The crazy hypocrisy behind it is they’ll emulate the game, which is all digital and requires access to the internet…

Like, I get when we were new with games and internet. I honestly don’t think the majority of gamers even care about physical. We already see digital sales trumping physical.

Also, for the record on delisting, yes it sucks and I think every company is required to announce a delisting a month in advance and to make sure media outlets announce it so people can get a game before that happens. But for physical it happens just the same with no longer having print runs and people on eBay selling a game for $1000. It might as well be the exact same as a digital delisting at that point.

Again, this is for an install ONLY. You might as well flip out over every Day 1 Patch requiring an online connection 🙄 for a physical game and refuse buying them then because it makes NO sense that you’re ok with an online update but not an online install. I just can’t imagine refusing to play a game just because it requires an online connectivity for an install in this day and age.

Tacoboto4d ago

The argument gets even richer when you learn just how many of these blowhards love Baldur's Gate 3, and bought it day one.

raWfodog5d ago

I think it’ll have a strong launch. Usually it’s the average gamer that will drive the majority of sales. I won’t be getting at launch but likely after it’s been out for a while. Better price and updates.

purple1015d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Not buying
There will be forced same sex scenes I guess

It’s just not representative of the real world and tired of having that stuff forced upon me

Also Disney Buying Pixar, Fox, Lucasfilm and Marvel, is just too much

AuraAbjure5d ago

Forced same sex scenes? Are you sure the sex scene can't be skipped? The Witcher 3 sex scenes were optional and could be skipped.

jambola4d ago

I'm sure star wars will have forced sex scenes lol

purple1014d ago

Like their assasssins creed games

And now disneys involved too, it’s almost certain haha

Michiel19894d ago

with that logic Rayman will have sex scenes

jambola4d ago

disney being involved......means certainly sex scenes??

BlackOni4d ago

The mental gymnastics they do to justify hating the LGBTQ community is wild.

S2Killinit4d ago

Why don you call it “forced same sex scene”? It is that horrendous to view a same sex scene? What is the big deal? Are you a puritan? We watch people get killed and even partake because its entertainment and nothing more, but viewing two people go at it, in whose activity we have no interest is somehow too much? I would try to reevaluate your perceptions to figure out where your beliefs come from so that you can adjust any unreasonable belief systems that may not be necessary/logical. You may ask “why should I have to change” and to that I will respond: because your belief system is clearly affecting your decisions, you are forgoing a game that you may enjoy otherwise, because of a potentially irrational belief system.

purple1014d ago

nah I don't mind the odd rainbow flag, but please don't put anything more in my games unless it really makes sense to do so, here I feel there trying to either be a] shocking or b] fit in with the recent push to normalise this stuff, its a minority, always has been, always will be, don't push it as if THE norm, when its not,. this is my view,. not a view actually, thats fact.

i've had enough of this pushed in my face, and now in my games. give it as an option yes, but I reckon their going to do it different, this is Disney, and the Disney now, is not the Disney we grew up with watching Bambi and alladin,.

purple1012d ago (Edited 2d ago )

'It is that horrendous to view a same sex scene''

no its not, I may even partake in them, as- you dont know me...?

my point still stands, its the minority, don't make it seem like its the norm, Disney pushes this stuff way too much,

''You may ask “why should I have to change”

get over yourself, I dont need to change, again you dont know me,

in regard to commenting on forums, I comment on games, with an opinion, everyone is entitled to one,
you are commenting on someones character. Id suggest being careful in future mate, thats a dangerous game.

Gameseeker_Frampt3d ago

@purple101

Sounds like you need a safe space.

Also, kudos for demanding real world realism in your Star Wars video game. That is something I never thought I'd hear someone say.

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Ubisoft Confirms No Delay for Star Wars Outlaws Despite Negative Feedback

Ubisoft reassures fans that Star Wars Outlaws will not be delayed despite negative feedback on YouTube. Discover the details and future plans for the game.

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OtterX7d ago

Ubisoft being Ubisoft. How's that Skull & Bones doing?

Relientk777d ago

Well you see, Skull & Bones is a AAAA game. I think Star Wars Outlaws is just AAA, so it's not held to the same standard and quality.

/S

boing16d ago

I'm sure it 'exceeded all the expectations'. Or at least that's what Ubi likes to say when the game isn't doing very well.

Extermin8or3_6d ago

Last I heard it actually had a decent number of players and sales but if it's enough to make back the money it's torturous development cost-that's another thing

Berenger7d ago

This cancel culture has got to go.

smolinsk7d ago

Yes its horrible and ruining the world right now. Really hope it takes a more positive turn for something better soon.

senorfartcushion7d ago

There's no such thing as cancel culture

mkis0076d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Fart

Call it what you will, but it's other name was" the wisdom of the crowd" and it most def exists.

senorfartcushion6d ago

To use the word "culture" indicates that it is anything other than rich people getting themselves in trouble.

This is what wealth gaps do: they open up regular things to scrutiny from the public. Poor people can't get "cancelled" but they can get in trouble. The only difference between poor people and rich people is how regular it is for poor people. It's not a culture for us but the rich want it to be - otherwise them getting into trouble would just be unnatural (!)

YourMommySpoils6d ago

Bill Cosby was the original MC for Star Wars Outlaws.

smolinsk6d ago

Everybody. All the low life losers have a voice from the depth of there gaming dungeon celler. Its those people that are the worst.

Seraphim7d ago

The last thing I'd call what is happening in gaming is cancel culture. It's more a collective of raining down hate and vitriol on anything that doesn't fit these clowns tastes and opinions. It's like a vocal subsection of gamers online think that every game should be tailored to them.

Demetrius7d ago

Ikr sadly it won't mfs like to complain alot nowadays, shhi dumb af

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-Foxtrot7d ago

I just find it funny all this manpower, time, resources, money for this game and despite being an open world Star Wars game we've wanted since we were kids there's not much hype for it.

jambola7d ago

it's like if the first trip to mars was run by Burger King

Rainbowcookie6d ago

"The main issues raised by viewers included:

Low and Variable Frame Rates: The preview displayed noticeable performance issues.
Poor Visual Effects: Many felt that the graphics and effects didn’t meet expectations.
Non-Reactive AI: The behavior of non-playable characters seemed unpolished and unrealistic.
Overall Roughness: The game appeared less polished than anticipated for a title close to release." Don't think its a hype thing more of a performance thing, but you are right.

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CrimsonWing697d ago

I think it’s looks great. What’s the negative feedback about?

ZeekQuattro7d ago

Unattractive 💪 female lead complaints mixed with nitpicks about the explosions being bad or poor facial animations. Game looks fine to me. I'm looking forward to it.

-Foxtrot7d ago

That PS2 GTA San Andreas explosion is not a nitpick, neither is using explosives to kill an enemy and the other enemies super close by going "Who's there".

Why are we all suddenly arselicking Ubisoft now

600 developers from eleven Ubisoft studios have worked on this game...it's not a good look.

CrimsonWing697d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@Foxtrot

So, let me get this straight, an explosion and enemies reacting to an explosion in a way that’s no different than knocking on a wall in, what I consider an amazing game, with a line of, “Huh, what was that noise?” Makes this bad?

…like at this point it’s coming off like people are itching to hate this game and as soon as they spot a blemish they run with it being a trash game. Give me a break here, this game looks better than most stuff released now, uh, sans an explosion effect and some AI not reacting to an explosion.

-Foxtrot7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Come on man it's not the simple shit we see in other games, the explosion in the videos are RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, most other games now have reactive AI where they'd be on at least alert, scouting the area and trying to find you or in this case would have at least targeted you since its so obvious.. This game didn't even do that, we never got to that stage because the AI here is clearly terrible.

Like I said, there's so much manpower and studios being spent on a game like this, it should be better. Even Ubisofts Assassins Creed games do the majority of the things better than what was seen in this video.

"this game looks better than most stuff released now"

Lmao...sure it does

If you want to lick Ubisofts arsehole go ahead but don't bitch when other people don't want to follow the same bullshit.

raWfodog7d ago

I thought the recent gameplay trailer looked good. But everyone has their own opinions. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what the final product will bring. That will be the true test.

Pyrofire957d ago (Edited 7d ago )

there's a list at the top of the article.
But also I don't put too much weight into what people are saying except from the couple of reporters/reviewers that I actively follow. We'll see in august. That's more than a month to get a day one patch made that could address some of the listed complaints, at least FPS to a degree i imagine.

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