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Square Enix Points To PlayStation Exclusivity As A Key Reason For Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Success

Now, as Square Enix is embarking on a journey to remake one game with three games, we’re learning why Square has decided to keep all three of these games exclusive to PlayStation consoles.

In an interview with the Washington Post, producer Yoshinori Kitase cites keeping Final Fantasy VII: Remake, Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth, and seemingly the third game exclusive to one platform has been a core part of the success of the first two games so far.

Snookies1255d ago (Edited 55d ago )

I don't really think that's true. I went out of my way to buy a PS5 to play FF VII: Rebirth. So, it's the other way around for me lol. I would have bought another Xbox (after trading mine in not too long ago) if it was only there to play. Final Fantasy's name recognition, on top of VII's renown in the gaming world is why it's moving a lot of units.

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Nitrowolf254d ago (Edited 54d ago )

Did you not read it or just not get past the title?

The PS5 in the headline is obviously because it's what's exclusive platform it's on, but this is pertaining to the games scope and how being on a single platform really helped them build this world. That has played to it's success, otherwise it possibly wouldn't be getting as good as reviews. Good review and having good things to talk about your game bring in sales.

It could have been exclusive to any other platform, they're just pointing out how that really helped them, versus setting resources and time aside to developing another platform at the same time, that would have ultimately downgraded what they could have done, or delay the game out to who knows when.

Ironmike54d ago

It's only a timed exclusive it ends in May feel free to check

mkis00754d ago

Ironmike

Let me know how remake plays on xbox will you? Are the controls good?😶

Babadook754d ago (Edited 54d ago )

“It's only a timed exclusive it ends in May feel free to check“

And if Rebirth is like Remake don’t count on the game actually coming to PC in May. Who knows how long it will take to develop. Remake took longer than the exclusivity deal. There’s no announcement either.

Christopher54d ago

***It's only a timed exclusive it ends in May feel free to check ***

SIE says they're not timed. Feel free to check.

Asterphoenix53d ago

Ironmike

It will be the same case as with FF7 Remake. It will drop on PC sometime after the PS timed exclusivity is up. The recent news of it being a PlayStation console exclusive is highly likely true with lots of Sony people had a hand in support the development of these titles. Which is shown in the credits of those titles which other Square multiplatform titles don't.

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blacktiger54d ago

But you went out of the way,
THAT'S A HUGE SUCCESS

KwietStorm_BLM54d ago

You either didn't read the interview at all or you just didn't get it.

Juancho5154d ago

Just cause you don’t think it’s true doesnt make it so. Final Fantasy 7 and other titles have been Sony exclusives and have utilized the hardware and systems specifically so they could push boundaries and not succopmb to lowest common denominators. Sony’s partnership with them on these projects is very obviously breneficial to the game and the gamers alike, the final product is a testament. We all played FF7 on PS1, if i didnt already have a PS5 i would’ve bought one just for these titles because of how much i loved ff7.

derek54d ago

@Snook, not saying your opinion is irrelevant but SE opinion holds way more weight.

Michiel198954d ago

Square has more incentive to lie/give a skewed view though, they are the one benefitting from it the most.
It's kinda insane how you all gobble up pr talk like hungry turkeys. No matter the result of their partnership, they would have always talked positive about it. No company would ever say anything negative, especially not so short after launch or you might as well start pouring gasoline over your money.

Games_People_Play54d ago

That nice little 💰 Sony gave them for exclusivity, probably didn’t hurt either.

z2g54d ago

I agree. An exclusive intentionally limits who can play it. You’ll get disagrees because loyalty supersedes logic amongst the diehards. What’s objectivity, anyway….

lelo2play54d ago

Square Enix basically belong to Sony...

DarXyde54d ago

Well known fact that games sell hardware. But it is also true that people look to maximize their hardware investment over the course of a few years and buy in before there's much to play yet.

We'll get an idea of how much Rebirth drives PS5 sales by end of March. Since it's a late month release, we'll have a better idea in March.

If PS5 sales are high, we can assume people held off on getting a PS5 until Rebirth.

If PS5 sales remain within the typical estimates with high Rebirth sales, the game is likely being sold to an existing install base.

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Tacoboto55d ago

FFXV was open world and released on the weak as heck Xbox One S day and date with everything else.

Ubisoft titles... Red Dead Redemption 2... Hogwarts Legacy... GTA V on the 360 and PS3.

No. Being exclusive isn't the reason it's a seamless map.

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MrNinosan54d ago

Just admit you have not played Rebirth, if you compare it's open world with FFXV.

Tacoboto54d ago

I haven't played yet - decided to start Armored Core VI instead, but the Special Edition came in and is awaiting install.

But I have been playing games, that have been multiplatform and open-world, since the 360 era. This developer comment makes no sense and seems insulting to the dev team actually.

Barlos54d ago

That's a laugh, because that was also the reason why FFXVI didn't perform as well as expected wasn't it?

Rocketisleague54d ago

Yeah, that was the excuse.

Ff7 is a system seller. Simple as.

Barlos54d ago

Definitely. Always has been.

Ironmike54d ago

I don't think it is and I own both games remake and rebirth but iam only giving my op of remake as I haven't played rebirth yet but remake is notva system seller its good game and actually got me into the franchise

Rocketisleague53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

Nobody cares what you think of the game ironmike, or me for that matter. It is factually a system seller. Final fantasy in general used to sell systems. Ff7 in particular is the one that made final fantasy a system seller in the first place. Hence a good remake pushing the nostalgia drug trip over those who didn't get ps5s yet.

Ff16 was actually the point at which I finally got a ps5 myself.

Shane Kim54d ago

You must be delusional if you think it being on xbox would make any difference. FFXVI was sadly written off from the get go.

Barlos54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

It wouldn't. Xbox doesn't do JRPGs. I did think it was a great game though. Sure it was a departure from typical FF formula, but it was no less enjoyable. To me at least.

FinalFantasyFanatic54d ago

Considering Rebirth's success, I sometimes wonder if FF16 isn't as good as people make it out to be, I haven't played it so I can't say for sure.

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slate9154d ago

Yeah the lump sum they're getting from Sony is definitely key to their success.

DarkZane54d ago

You're incredibly delusional if you think it would have made a difference if it was on Xbox.

slate9154d ago

Selling anything to an install base of 30+ million will make a difference. This website got you gassed up.

mkis00754d ago

Go look up sales splits for games, then go look up sales splits for japanese games...xbox sells like a tenth of what the same japanese game sells on playstation.

Sephiroushin54d ago

if we go by crisis core numbers not even a margin of error difference!

porkChop54d ago

Considering Xbox isn't getting the FF7 remake trilogy, did you really expect the Xbox fanbase to buy the prequel?

Sephiroushin54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

@pork
are you asking me, really?
Well, I dont expect xbox fanbase to buy them at all even if it was coming to xbox same day release... now a days xbox gamers would first ask if it was coming to gamepass, get told "no", then proceed to wait for it to come to gamepass sometime ...

MrNinosan54d ago

@porkChop
Crisis Core has nothing to do with Remake.
It's a prequel to Final Fantasy VII, which is available on Xbox, but that didn't sell either.

S2Killinit54d ago

I think anyone who wants to minimize costs of production would be smart to release on PlayStation, as opposed to xbox.

Considering that xbox base doesnt play games like FF relative to PlayStation or Nintendo, why would they want to release on xbox with its 30 million instal base? It would be wiser to release on PlayStation and invest the savings into making a better game.

Incidentally, thats what he is saying in the interview. But someone has to spell it out to people it seems.

Alos8854d ago

@slate91 Not when the platform in question has a historical indifference to japanese rpgs. Xbox only ever accounted for about 30% of FFXV's lifetime sales, and it's likely Sony's cash incentive for exclusivity more than made up for that.

MrNinosan54d ago

@Alos88.
FFXV didn't even stand for 10% of the sales on Xbox compared to Playstation.

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NPD Analyst Hints Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Sales Underperformed

NPD analyst Matt Piscatella has hinted at sales of Square Enix's Final Fantasy VII Rebirth having underperformed in the US.

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M3talDiamond20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Its a great game but the texture resolution on props/environmental assets is unacceptable I dont think its right for a AAA videogame company to put out a game for $69.99 with such low quality assets. The character models and Character textures look great but again the blurry textures on environmental assets is shocking for a game on PS5. I see hardcore FF7 fans on reddit defending the asset quality however nobody defended the apartment door textures on FF7 Remake but for some reason nobody cares about FF7 Rebirth's abundance of low quality assets.

Furesis19h ago

yea i don't think that's the reason here lol

TheProfessional8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Shouldn't have been more than one game. Such greed. They should've just made one complete game and that's it. Everything they said about not being able to do it was just a lie so they could milk as much as possible out of it. The same corporate greed split the hobbit into three parts for the no reason.

DarXyde4h ago

The professional,

I don't mind it being split into multiple games.

It gives them a chance to revise the combat and make a better game and implement new ideas iteratively.

The story is split into three chapters, but each game is pretty damn feature complete.

repsahj18h ago

Lol, check Alan Wake 2 sales if your findings about texture resolution is true.

lucian22918h ago

the textures are barely that bad at all. sounds like you never played it and are just going by some random screenshots you see online.

unlike the first game where the texture issue was more glaring, i've not run into this at all in rebirth

Flexiblefish7410h ago

Am currently playing it and yes it looks like trash on performance mode. So I play it on graphics mode on 30fps

Old McGroin17h ago

I really like the game but my heart dies a little when the map opens up and a laundry list of open world padding appears with those damn towers. I know they're optional but my OCD doesn't care! It's the reason I stopped playing Assassins Creed games, it just doesn't feel fun in the slightest. When Rebirth is laser focused on its actual story the game is top class.

Barlos15h ago

The textures are really not that bad. There's some low res textures in some of the environment but generally it's decent. I honestly think the encouraging environmental textures in Stellar Blade are much worse, yet you don't hear anyone talking about this.

TiredGamer9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Seriously. This is exactly what I’ve been harping on. The expectations of today’s gamers is a death spiral feedback loop.

People are going to complain about texture resolution for a game that is already massive at nearly 150 GB. Compared to previous gens, when we were just happy to have games that looked decent and struck a balance in performance and gameplay, today we will nitpick the smallest thing like it would actually make a difference. The law of diminishing returns is very real…. You can spend 3 more months and millions of dollars of development time to get graphics that look just a tiny bit better, or you can be reasonable and rational, look at things with a little of wisdom and perspective, and realize that it would be a terrible investment of resources. Having slightly better graphics on a title that already has a fixed market of buyers is not going to massively increase sales. It will just make all these companies go out of business even faster.

Things are a very tense crossroads this gen. Game publishers aren’t “allowed” to charge more for their games, and are chewed up for adding MTs or live service stuff, and yet are expected to keep adding more and more content, and better textures, because that 150 GB of game data isn’t enough for everyone yet. Something has to give, and it’ll be the gamers that will suffer the most in the end when the industry implodes or exits stage.

We are sowing what we will eventually reap.

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Moegooner18h ago

It's funny how often the term "analyst" gets tossed around nowadays. But again, that's the only way they can remain relevant.

Tacoboto16h ago

He's been following the industry for decades, he's not just a random person on Twitter.

ZeekQuattro15h ago

Exactly. He's an Executive Director at Circana/NPD. Not sure why analyst became a buzzword over the years. It's literally part of his job description to report on them. 🤣

Tacoboto15h ago

Yeah. It's not about relevance, it's literally *his career*. Not tossed around, it's what he does and has been doing for a living.

blackblades11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Its just a rumor, people shouldnt take it to heart

TheProfessional8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

This is PS fan/liberal logic. Instead of actually having any facts to counter an opinion or perspective you don't like you just call the guy irrelevant or criticize him or his job.

Its the same with with kojima fans in the article where someone finally criticized his awful, self indulgent and overly expositional writing.

Tacoboto7h ago

Liberal logic? Might want to fix your irrelevant political reference; that's straight out of Trump's playbook for literally everything he tries to say and do.

ChocoboYellow4m ago

it's 100% boomer logic to attach the word "liberal" to people and things they don't agree with. Your first 2 sentences are ironic.

Battlestar2317h ago

They should of released it on Xbox and PC as PS5 owners don't seem to buy JRPG'S. Also they could of made a deal with MS to have it on gamepass Day 1 with MS giving them a few billion to make up for sales.

Hopefully the new CEO of SE will cancel all exclusive agreements with Sony and make Part 3 and all future SE games multi-platform.

Kinza5501217h ago

LMAO! Wishful thinking at its finest.

Battlestar2317h ago

Not wishful thinking at all as both FF 16 and Rebirth are both not selling well on PS5 and shows that PS owners are not that interested in JRPG'S. SE will have to recoup the cost of the games by releasing both game and all future games on as many platforms as possible.

Exclusives are a cancer in gaming so i don't understand why gamer would want a franchise like the FF franchise to die off because of PS fans not buying them.

Giga_Gaia14h ago

"Exclusives are a cancer in gaming so i don't understand why gamer would want a franchise like the FF franchise to die off because of PS fans not buying them."

They are for Xbox because so little people are buying Xbox, now they have to put their games everywhere. Meanwhile, Sony and Nintendo will keep doing exclusives because it differentiate their consoles from the competition, it boosts hardware sales. Sony and Nintendo will never release anything on Xbox, so you guys get nothing while the rest of us get our exclusives plus Microsoft's.

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andy8515h ago

Is this a real post? FF7 Crisis Core sold 5% on Xbox and over 80% on PS and you think that PS owners don't buy JRPGs? 😂😂 the sales didn't perform as well as Remake because that was released in Covid when people were home all the time, and it released to twice as many platforms users. And PC? Sure that would sell well, but then it'd take an extra year or two to come out. And I overlooked the part where you said "a few billion to make up for sales". A few billion is 50 million sales, you think the XB port is selling that? 🤣

TheProfessional8h ago(Edited 7h ago)

That is such a stupid argument. As if every game made then sold so well. This should never have been more than one game and also what they did with the combat etc. turned a lot of people off. Then they made this one a PS5 exclusive.

andy854h ago

Isn't stupid at all. People were home and playing more video games. That's plain fact. And if it was one game it would have been rushed and ruined. And the combat is outstanding. The only why some were turned off was because it wasn't turn based.

Giga_Gaia14h ago

On PC I agree, but if you think Xbox would have helped, you're next level stupid.

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Tzuno17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

people grew tired of this episodic greedy releases
better wait for the complete edition, no need to wait years between episodes
by the time they release another part, you already forgot where the story left
people want complete games not crumbs, glad it under-performs
that's a lesson

VersusDMC16h ago

100 hour game is crumbs? Remake had a ton of content as well.

And what is episodic? People had to wait years after cliffhanger endings to see what happens to see the next "episode" like with Mass effect, halo 2, god of war 2, etc... did people complain they forgot what happened when the sequels came out?

Saying Square got greedy with Rebirth, it not having microtransactions and a massive amount of content is essentially brain dead.

TheProfessional7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Wow thats ridiculous. You're talking about a remake of one already completed game that was split into three parts due to greed and gameplay padding. Literally completely different from everything else you listed. Makes no sense.

MeteorPanda16h ago

l liked the episodic. I get more game over a time rather than one hit XD

I just don't like how...creepy sephiroth is with Cloud. Like the erotica fanfic writers and artists are going nuts.

I_am_Batman16h ago

The same thing could be said about any game that was made with sequels in mind though. If they released the whole remake project in one game it would've been much less ambitious. Some people like yourself might've been happier with a conservative Remake approach, but others probably would've complained about the unrealized potential of remaking the classic.

The original aged very well and is still perfectly playable. I just don't see anything particularly interesting that they could've accomplished with 3-5 years of production time for the entire Remake. At that point they probably would've scaled it back even further and it would've ended up being a slightly expanded version of the original with a new coat of paint and voiceover. Maybe that would've been a more profitable path, but I for one wouldn't have been interested in that and I'm glad that they went all out and gave the game the attention it deserves.

TheProfessional7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Really? You wouldn't have been interested? Everyone who bought ff7 remake still would've bought it.

Seems like the extra gameplay padding and open world stuff isn't what people wanted since the sales are so low. How did they mess up a remake of one of the most popular games ever when remakes and remasters are more successful than they've ever been now?

I_am_Batman7h ago(Edited 6h ago)

@TheProfessional: Personally I wouldn't have been interested in anything close to a 1:1 Remake. More often than not, I consider those to be a waste of resources. I prefer direct ports/remasters that keep everything about the original intact (which already exist for VII), or full reimagined Remakes that act as a supplement to the original without making it obsolete. The VII Remake project is by far the best example of how to do this well in my book.

VII Remake rumors have been swirling around for over a decade before it was officially announced and I never shared the general excitement about the idea, because I considered it pretty much impossible to do it justice.

There is a reason why modern FF games aren't as varied as they were during the golden age, which for me is the PS1 generation. It's easier to create rich and varied worlds when you're working at the much higher level of abstraction of the older games, but in modern AAA games towns aren't a handful of pre-rendered 2D backgrounds anymore and NPCs don't communicate exclusively via textboxes.

The point is that higher expectations in terms of production values have made the creation of wolrds like FF7's much less feasible in modern AAA gaming, which is reflected in the criticism of the fanbase when it comes to modern entries of the franchise.

Even as someone who likes most of the modern FFs there is clearly a different aura about the VII Remake. It's the first time that the franchise truly feels like it has recaptured the greatness of the golden age for me. In that sense it feels more authentic to me than a 1:1 Remake ever could, because it doesn't try to replicate what the original is today, but what it was in 1997. An insanely ambitious, jawdropping game that almost feels like it shouldn't be possible.

andy8515h ago

Eh it ain't that at all. 12 years of development costs isn't greed. They just wanted the project to the be the best it can be. If they rushed it and put it into one release it would have been a disaster. Now sales or not, the game is outstanding and will likely win game of the year. So they definitely succeeded in making it great. And I mean just play it again like I did before the next part comes out. It was given away on the monthly PS games so there's so excuse really.

Inverno14h ago

The game isn't episodic, idk why people to this day keep saying that. It's no different than 13, 13-2, 13-3 or X, X-2. It's sequel based, and no one is tired of sequel based games or episodic for that matter cause episodic games aren't even all that common anymore.

TheProfessional7h ago

Its a game that was already made being split into three parts. Totally different.

Inverno7h ago

@ThePro
Except it's a complete reimagining of the original, and not just a 1 to 1 remake of the original which is only 1 game. I don't get in what way it's episodic. It's a game that has direct sequels and it was explained from the start that'll have at least 2 direct sequels, why would people bitch about that especially now that we've had two quality full length games?

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LordoftheCritics17h ago

FF16 dullness scared gamers away from FF7 Re

EternalTitan16h ago

Yeah. XVI was so bad it drove people away from Rebirth.

H915h ago

No it's mainly People who played Remake and didn't like the changes didn't bother with Rebirth all together

Giga_Gaia14h ago

It's always like this. FF8 sold very well on release because FF7 was awesome, meanwhile people didn't like FF8 as much as FF7, so guess what? FF8 caused FF9 to sell less at launch.

CrimsonWing6912h ago

I don’t think that’s such a hot take.

Strange995h ago

Nah, the boringness of part 1 kept me away from 2. Maybe one day.

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Garry's Mod Removing All Nintendo Content From Steam Workshop After Takedown Request

The developer of Garry's Mod has announced it is in the process of removing all Nintendo-related content from Steam Workshop after receiving a takedown request from Nintendo.

gurp5d ago

first emulation, now this
even though I don't play Garry's Mod, it is still bad

Inverno5d ago

I was reading it's all just false reports from a troll who's done things like this in the past and not Nintendo themselves.

-Foxtrot4d ago

Well the games creator Gary Newman confirmed it himself on Twitter.

Inverno4d ago

Seems that's still being debated.

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Remedy Makes Changes to Core Management Team, Wants to Grow Alan Wake & Control in Larger Franchises

Remedy has made a couple of changes to its core management team with the goal to grow Alan Wake and Control into larger franchises.

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Jingsing4d ago

Changes like not being anti consumer? putting out Alan Wake Remastered on disc but not the sequel?