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Why Alan Wake 2 is Not Selling as Well as Remedy Wants

The Outerhaven writes: Remedy Entertainment has stated that despite Alan Wake 2 being its fastest-selling game, it has yet to recoup its development costs. Here are a couple of reasons why this might be.

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Tacoboto432d ago

That's pretty much hitting the nail on the head.

Not releasing on Steam especially for PC gamers I think is the bigger of the two points affecting figures, but it certainly would've helped having a physical edition out on store shelves with a slight sale for Black Friday shortly after release.

Here's hoping after the Expansions they'll bring it out to at least Steam. With retailers like Best Buy ending all physical media though, I doubt there'll be a disc out unless Remedy can do what Larian did with BG3

Sciurus_vulgaris432d ago

Remedy’s titles have never really been big sellers. However, skipping Steam was likely a mistake. Steam despite having competition, is still the dominant PC digital store front.

Cacabunga432d ago

Time to release it physical and drop this digital only crap

badz149432d ago

Steam having competition? LOL keep telling yourself THAT! there is no real competition for Steam on PC.

BeHunted432d ago (Edited 432d ago )

"Not releasing on Steam especially for PC gamer"

Because Epic funded the game, it’s not rocket science. It’s like Valve not releasing its exclusive games on the Epic Store. Competition is great.

LucasRuinedChildhood432d ago

He understands the reason why it's exclusive to EGS but it's undoubtedly one of the factors that lead to less sales than they'd like.

BehindTheRows431d ago (Edited 431d ago )

REAL competition is great. Valve also doesn't partner with 3rd party devs and make previously multiplatform franchises exclusive. They keep THEIR OWN games exclusive to Steam. Apples-to-cherries.

Besides, Epic has done nothing to push the medium forward and their store is many steps behind Steam.

FinalFantasyFanatic432d ago

Releasing on Epic Games only is a big problem, most PC gamers will not spend money there, even if they really want the game, a lot will just wait it out or just not buy.

Amplitude431d ago (Edited 431d ago )

I was absolutely hyped for this game but the digital only on consoles made me choose to play it on PC. I wasn't that devastated but then it was Epic exclusive. As a result I completely lost interest. Low hopes but fingers crossed a Steam release happens in the future.

A digital-only technical masterpiece really should be played on PC imo so the Epic thing is such a kick in the ____

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gold_drake432d ago

for me?

cause its digital only.
and their "excuse" that puttingnit on a disc would make the game a 70 dollar game.

BeHunted432d ago (Edited 432d ago )

"their "excuse" that puttingnit on a disc would make the game a 70 dollar game."

Digital games should always be cheaper than physical discs, and when they are on sale, they are much cheaper by a significant amount.

gold_drake432d ago

sure, but they made it out to be that physical games are 20 moneys more expensive because of the physical aspect.

which is dumb and not true.

shinoff2183432d ago (Edited 432d ago )

Not true. Usually a physical game can be found cheaper. I picked up the remaster of Alan wake 1 off Amazon for 10.49 or some sh like that. Physical games can always be found cheaper. Unless we're talking some of the indies that get down to like 5 bucks. You ain't finding oddworld new n tasty physically for 5 bucks

Gold drake your right. Especially if you give us the option like larian. The pre orders literally pay for itself.

BeHunted432d ago

@Shinoff2183

Alan Wake Remastered was less than $10 on Xbox store a few weeks ago

Smellsforfree431d ago

How much something cost to make or produce (e.g., fabricate a disc with a case) rarely relates to actual price to the consumer. Markets set the price of goods, not the raw material cost that goes into it. That is very simplistic thinking.

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-Foxtrot432d ago

The thing is it is cheaper but it’s not as cheap to justify it

I’d rather just pay the extra money and get a physical version

Petebloodyonion432d ago

Of course, it's stupid to believe that physical is close to 20$ more expensive to produce
who's in their right mind would believe crap like:

- The increasing cost of printing discs, and plastic boxes when the demand for such items is lower.
- Higher transport fees due to gas price hikes and cost of manutention.
- Cost of managing items that need inventory management systems, shelf space, return policies with stores, etc.
- Cut in profit margins from the second selling market.
- Physical store profit cut.

Honestly, who would be stupid enough to believe these lies from Remedy?

THEzRude432d ago

only minority cares about physical copies anymore. So why should we care for market that hardly brings in any money ?

I_am_Batman432d ago

Boxed copies still account for roughly 18% of the total game sales revenue on console. That's still a significant chunk. Obviously it's up to each publisher to decide, but I don't see why you'd deliberately ignore a 10 billion dollar market unless you can't fit a physical release into the initial budget.

Knightofelemia432d ago

Why would anybody care about digital. We all know that if something happens to the account no matter the platform you lose the games. Those games associated to the account a giant library can be wiped clean and you have to rebuy them with a new account. Also digital games do have a shelf life depending on how long the studio has that license. Activision lost the license to the Transformers games hence they were pulled from the digital stores. I can still play War and Fall of Cybertron on PS3 because I own the discs. Now if somebody did not buy the digital cousins for those games then that person is screwed on those two games. They would need to Ebay the physical versions of those games. Another down fall to digital games is that some of those games are console locked meaning certain digital games are not available on the PS4 or PS5. Take Xenogears for instance it is locked to PS3 digitally I don't see SquareEnix answering fans and porting the game over to the PS4 and PS5. And there are other games on the PS3 I can't play on the PS4 or PS5 because the license again is pulled or its locked to a specific console. The one feature I wish Sony kept up with the PS4 and PS5 is the ability to play PS1 discs. And I care about physical games because I can find them cheaper whether new or used. Pawnshops, thrift stores who don't know games that will be idiots and price them to a point here they want to get rid of them fast. Also I like the fact that if I wasted money on an overhyped piece of shit game I can trade it in or I can privately sell it to someone who might enjoy it. I cannot sell or trade in the digital cousin to that physical copy of that game. All I have to do is realize is that I wasted money on a title I don't like. There are people out there who do care about physical copies it's called collectors and people who enjoy the sense of owner ship. When I buy a digital copy I am buying a license to play that game there is no sense of owner ship there. And people and collectors are proud to show off their library and brag about how many games they own.

ModsDoBetter421d ago

Source?
Or is this more made up ThezRude nonsense?

THEzRude421d ago

Digital is the future. Your tears wont change this fact.
Sure it would be nice to have a physical box gathering dust in my shelve that i forget in a moment even exist.
But only minority of gamer population cries for physical copies.
Console peasants are their own breed for sure, they are the FIFA and COD sheeps.

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jznrpg432d ago (Edited 432d ago )

No physical and no steam you lose 2 chunks of players off the top. It’s an Epic published games so I get why they didn’t release on steam but no physical was dumb.

tagzskie432d ago

An excellent game not selling well is so sad.. Theres a lot of game deserved not to sell well like cod mw3 for example. But this game is not. The last redemption should be released on steam and disc.. That should be another half to million at best i think.

shinoff2183432d ago (Edited 432d ago )

I'd be down

-Foxtrot432d ago

They need a physical edition, simply put

Give us a collectors edition with a steelbook aswell and I’d buy it

blackblades432d ago (Edited 432d ago )

Options basically, people didn't buy it because of it not being on steam. Other because its not physical on consoles. Makes me think Xbox digital only gonna hurt it even more.

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Remedy Talks Going Over Budget on Alan Wake 2

Remedy says there's always a big challenge trying to match creative ambition with realistic budgets, and how many units you can sell.

TheColbertinator33d ago

I wish they had released a Steam version on launch. I feel that should have been part of their focus right away from announcing the game.

LucasRuinedChildhood32d ago

They definitely wanted to but Epic published the game.

REDGUM33d ago

Would have made up alot of ground had they have released a physical version at the same time as the digital release.
I think thats where it bit them in the bum to be honest.

IAMRealHooman32d ago

honest question, have they broken even yet?

senorfartcushion32d ago

Weren't they whining over not breaking even a few weeks ago? No all-of-a-sudden they're talking about overspending on the budget?

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Alan Wake 2 Finally Recouped Development Costs 16 Months After Launch

Remedy Entertainment has announced that Alan Wake 2 has finally recouped its development costs and has been profitable since the end of 2024.

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REDGUM70d ago

Should have been a physical release as well at launch. That would have changed the numbers. Hopefully they and others learn from this digital is great but so many out there like physical too.

ravens5270d ago

Yup. I'd like to know how many physical copies it sold. I still haven't bought it yet, but I plan to.

jznrpg33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

I bought it right away but I’m sure it recieved less sales than it would have. I the end I’d rather wait to have dlc and game on disc, but you never know if that’s going to happen or not.

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Alan Wake 2 Sales Surpass 2 Million Units, Max Payne Remake and Control 2 Progressing Well

Remedy Entertainment reveals that Alan Wake 2 has sold over two million units and begun accruing royalties.

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Jingsing72d ago

Probably would have sold a lot more had it been available physically at launch. I feel like Remedy's greed will eventually close them down.

toxic-inferno72d ago

I'm not sure it's about greed. I am one of the fans who waited until the physical version was released (I've only just played it, as a matter of fact).

Remedy's games are a hard sell in most regards. The nature of the story appeals to a smaller group of people than the average game with it's level of ambition. As a result, and to ensure they can release the game they want to make, they are required to partner with companies that impose restrictions and make decisions like seen in this case.

Remedy is not complaining that it has only just become profitable. They are used to this. I think it has been said that Alan Wake II is the game of theirs that has turned a profit quickest.

Out of all the developers out there, I think they are possibly one of the least greedy. Many other developers would choose to make decisions that increase their financial takings - Remedy seems to make decisions that allow them to release the game they want to release, without sacrificing the vision that they have.

Rainbowcookie48d ago

I agree very Niche games , awesome but pretty niche. I do applaud them to sticking too their vision instead of buckling to the crappy spirit of the age.

Tacoboto71d ago

Remedy's greed, talk about not knowing what you're talking about.

I'm guessing everyone forgot that Epic published and funded this game, and put the terms on its distribution...

RiseNShine72d ago

It took too many wrong decisions like EGS exclusivity and no physical edition.

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Scissorman72d ago

I'm glad this finally broke 2 million units sold, but Silent Hill 2 hit that goal in far less time and on fewer consoles. Remedy really needs to rethink putting its games on EGS.

Kassanova0772d ago

Good to hear. Next time do a Physical release day 1.

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