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Sony should follow Microsoft and bring PlayStation exclusives to Xbox

Microsoft has confirmed that four first-party games are heading to PlayStation, and with Sony planning to adapt its own exclusivity plans, we think now is a great time for Sony's first-party games to head to Xbox.

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Einhander1972441d ago

No.

Sony should not only not put their games on xbox, Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles.

Microsoft is costing them more than the pennies they will make selling their old games and dollar store indies. Let Microsoft suffer the burden of buying up all these publishers with no way to properly support them.

Einhander1972441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

And I just want to add that this BS is exactly what Microsoft wants, they want to put a bunch of crappy indies and failing games on PlayStation then pay websites to write a bunch of BS about how PlayStation now "owes" Microsoft it's games.

This is the same scam Microsoft has been running since they duped Sony into agreeing to cross play.

Where are the calls for Nintendo to release it's games on xbox eh? Of course that's not getting written, this is just another scam scheme media smear campaign cooked up and paid for by Microsoft.

InUrFoxHole441d ago

What bad game is xbox trying to put on PS? Please explain to me how having more places to play games is bad for gamers...

_SilverHawk_441d ago

Yeah sony should follow Microsoft and sell less games and gaming consoles also because it seems like xbox plans have been very successful.

crazyCoconuts441d ago

@silverhawk - correct. May I be so bold as to suggest Sony should hire Phil away as their next CEO so that he can repeat his winning formula at PlayStation

fr0sty441d ago

Sony is the market leader, for them to take their exclusive games, which give people reason to buy a PS5 over an Xbox Series S/X, and give them to Microsoft would be stupid. Microsoft is doing it because they have no other choice, their shareholders are getting pissed that they spent nearly $100 billion buying out the industry and still aren't selling any more consoles or gamepass subs (their gamepass subs are at the same point they were 2 years ago, 34 million, and that's INCLUDING Xbox Live Gold subs). Sony does have a choice, they can kick back and let their competition release their games on PS5, and still keep their exclusives, giving people more reason to buy PS5 and less reason to buy Xbox.

Cacabunga440d ago

How can ps bring their games to Xbox when they are abandoning hardware??? So people who write these article aware of what they are writing?

shinoff2183440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

Funny thing about cross-platform alpt of these younger ones don't know or even refuse to acknowledge is that Sony was more open to this it was originally ms that had the issue with it. At the time they were high and mighty with the 360. I'm not looking it up but look up cross play Defiance.

Far as bad games ms is pushing idk yet the 4 rumored games have a decent track record, I'd buy grounded and hinfi if released physically. Haven't heard of then trying to push redfall or anything.

Rossi-4-ever440d ago

What xbox wants is games like God of War, Horizon & GT7 on their console because they fully well know PlayStation make the best games even though the Xbox hardware is better..!!!

itsmebryan440d ago

@_silverHawk
Did you miss when Sony missed their console sales target by 4 MILLION? What about Sony's operating income dropping by 26%? That means they have over 25% less money for R&D, game development , etc... Those numbers are straight from Sony. Sony is not doing as well as you pretend. That is why they are looking for new revenue sources because PS5 and PS5 only games sales are not making it.

InUrFoxHole440d ago

@Frosty
Mark my words. Sony will be day and date on pc and will have more games on other platforms. If we know anything it's more $ is what these companies want

Jingsing439d ago (Edited 439d ago )

They also duped Sony into releasing games on PC too which they didn't need to do, Spider-man on Steam 60k+ units vs 10 million on PlayStation. Sony won't feel the pain of that move until PS6. When PS6 launches many people will say, these games are coming to PC so I'll just wait.

Andrew336439d ago

@Jingsing what are you smoking? Spiderman on PC did fantastic for Sony and when 2 comes out on PC it will be even better.

Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered has sold 1.5 million PC copies.

Marvel's Spider-Man still isn't done writing its page in gaming history, even as Insomniac keeps teasing villains for the sequel. Namely, the Remastered edition of the game just broke a UK sales record by becoming Sony's biggest PC launch in the country, surpassing God of War by a significant margin.

VariantAEC436d ago

PlayStation was first to allow cross play back in the PS2 era with games like Final Fantasy Online between PS2 and PC. PS reintroduced cross play between different PlayStation console generations PS2, PSP, PS3, and PS Vita. That was all well before Xbox started allowing crossplay in the Xbox One era between Xbox consoles and PCs to bolster Microsoft's online engagement numbers.

VariantAEC436d ago

@Jingsing
PS also released games on PC way back in the 90s. Not sure they were day and date then, but most aren't day and date now. I agree PS didn't need to do it and you are one of the few people who also recognizes these games aren't selling well on PC either. PC gamers are pirates first and foremost. The PC audience is more than 7 times larger than the entire current-gen console market and yet the global game revenue on PC is mostly relegated to F2P microtransactions... not software sales. Makes me really wonder why Steam even exists. Most PC gamers probably just steal quite literally everything given real software sales numbers for games... either that or hardcore PC gamers are actually one of the smallest audiences.

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BeHunted441d ago

"Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles."

Then there'll be lawsuits heading their way...

Einhander1972441d ago

Sony and Nintendo, Steam and Epic control licensing on their own platform, they do not have to offer licenses, they deny games all the time.

But it would be karmically hilarious if Microsoft had to sue to get Sony and Nintendo to save them.

VenomUK440d ago

@Einhander1972 Great opening post that sums up the strong sentiment of many.

I’m of the opinion that if Microsoft does bring its shovelware of Grounded than Sony should tell it to back off - that kinda nonsense actually would demean the PlayStation platform.

tay8701440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

They don't have to allow it. But they will gladly take their 30% cut

Jin_Sakai441d ago

“Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles.“

Sony will get a 30% cut on all those games and PlayStation fans get to enjoy those once Xbox exclusives. Just don’t expect Sony to release their games on Xbox because it isn’t going to happen. Xbox isn’t even selling well enough to warrant the trouble.

Einhander1972441d ago

Thirty percent is nothing compared to how much xbox's existence costs them.

Microsoft is taking 70% and using that money to undermine Sony in every way possible, this whole thing is a con to undermine Sony, you're in an article calling for Sony to give up its software and other advantages.

Microsoft gains FAR more than Sony does by having their software on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles. Sony and Nintendo should not make it's business be helping Microsoft bottom line,

When Microsoft stops making xbox then we can start talking about putting their games on other consoles.

Christopher441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

**** Microsoft gains FAR more than Sony does by having their software on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles. Sony and Nintendo should not make it's business be helping Microsoft bottom line, ***

No, just no.

First, Sony gets 30% off the full price. The cost to them is a massive fraction of that.

Second, Microsoft doesn't get 70%, they get whatever is left after marketing/development costs. Including on going costs.

Third, Microsoft also loses marketing to just one console and the higher likelihood that the much larger market reach of Sony. They could lose Xbox sales to people who own both (which is likely most Xbox owners). Game Pass is the biggest thing on Xbox right now, otherwise most people buy their games on Steam compared to Xbox. This will be even more with the transition to a PlayStation release.

With the way Microsoft and Sony are doing it, curating releases of older titles to other platforms, it is the perfect solution. It gets them more money, but also the platform holder. And, it increases the market reach of possible fans of their games (a la Minecraft). Everyone is winning in that game while still maintaining the importance of exclusivity for new releases.

I don't think Microsoft will do same day releases. That would be the worst outcome for them. It would be giving up the whole point of their platform. Same with Sony. I do think certain titles held by third-party license holders will likely force some same day releases, but I don't see it happening otherwise unless one of these hardware manufacturers goes completely out of business.

Einhander1972441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

"First, Sony gets 30% off the full price. The cost to them is a massive fraction of that."

If you want to try to nitpick like that Sony Steam Nintendo ect. don't get 30% either most services have a sliding scale based on sales. And besides that it costs Sony money to host the files and maintain them on their service. And regardless of percent Microsoft gets more than Sony, end of story.. Make a real argument don't try to nitpick what I say.

"Third, Microsoft also loses marketing to just one console and the higher likelihood that the much larger market reach of Sony. They could lose Xbox sales to people who own both (which is likely most Xbox owners). Game Pass is the biggest thing on Xbox right now, otherwise most people buy their games on Steam compared to Xbox. This will be even more with the transition to a PlayStation release."

If Microsoft thought they were going to lose more than they were making they wouldn't do this, basic logic. They can't sell crap on their own console so they have very little to lose, especially on old arse games and dollar store indies.

"With the way Microsoft and Sony are doing it, curating releases of older titles to other platforms, it is the perfect solution. It gets them more money, but also the platform holder. And, it increases the market reach of possible fans of their games (a la Minecraft). Everyone is winning in that game while still maintaining the importance of exclusivity for new releases."

Sony and Nintendo can do this without selling Microsoft games on their platforms or their games on xbox. You might have heard Sony sold over 21m consoles last year, and Nintendo has sold over 130m Switch's. Sony also holds the record for software sales.

The whole problem here is your whole argument is based on some notion that Sony and Nintendo should want xbox to exist at all or that they need to sell games on xbox. If xbox goes under all those gamers would play their games somewhere else. Sony and Nintendo would make more money without competition.

I don't want Sony or Nintendo to give up ANY market share to help xbox, I want xbox to cease to exist and then Sony and Nintendo can take whatever market share is left. And then Microsoft can put whatever games they still create on PlayStation and Nintendo like all the other publishers do.

Sony and Nintendo should not help Microsoft take their market share, it's as simple as that.

Christopher441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

***If Microsoft thought they were going to lose more than they were making they wouldn't do this, basic logic. They can't sell crap on their own console so they have very little to lose, especially on old arse games and dollar store indies. ***

I'm guessing you just want Microsoft out of the game entirely. Cool. That's a shit deal for us gamers. We need Microsoft in the game. If not for the purpose of at least not selling their studios off to Tencent or the like, then to maintain competition with Sony. Much like Microsoft buying up publishers means less competition, so does Microsoft leaving mean the exact same thing. Sony isn't here benevolently. They will maximize profits.

So, if you're going into this argument with this, what I would call, rabid viewpoint? Then there's no arguing with you otherwise. You just want them gone and there is no 'logic' here other than that for you.

But, if you're not, then your logic is all wrong on what this means for the balance of power and what it means for how hurt Microsoft is in the game that they are even testing this out with old games. This is a potential sway towards Microsoft expanding their software options to more than just PC because obviously they're not getting everything they want with their current model of business. Especially with the near $90b tag over their head and the need for Game Pass to start making bucket loads of profit to make sense.

Chevalier440d ago

"That's a shit deal for us gamers. We need Microsoft in the game. If not for the purpose of at least not selling their studios off to Tencent or the like"

What? The only thing anyone should need from Microsoft is to start making better games. It's not Playstation nor Nintendo's issue that MS/Microsoft can't compete. It still blows my mind that they have such insane resources and still fail to make good games.

VariantAEC436d ago

Einhander1972
These MS games will not sell that well on PSN. I am personally interested in HiFi Rush but that would've been on PS5 day one if MS didn't buy Tengo. Outside of that... I don't care. Nothing MS has is interesting me or most other people so unless HiFi Rush sells ten times more units than Minecraft, I'm guessing this won't even slow the sinking ship that is Xbox.

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Obscure_Observer441d ago

"Sony should not only not put their games on xbox, Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles."

This is *why* Xbox gamers don´t want Xbox games to be on Playstation either!

You want everything from Xbox while giving nothing in return. Just remember where you stand next time you go out asking Xbox games to be on your favorite platform.

Einhander1972441d ago

The only thing I want from Microsoft is stop making xbox and competing with Sony.

Hofstaderman441d ago

I never wanted xbox games. If any xbox games were worth it I would have bought a Series console. I am not alone in this reasoning based on xbox sales..

Solitariussaint441d ago

Nobody wants Xbox games which is why MS is so desperate to go multiplat now.

Elda441d ago

I own all 3 current consoles but if I solely owned a PS5 I couldn't care less about those 4 old games (HiFi Rush, Pentiment, Sea Of Theives & Grounded) coming to PS. PS or Nintendo doesn't need any XB exclusives...not one knowing PS & it's exclusives do well on its own.

outsider1624441d ago

"You want everything from Xbox while giving nothing in return. Just remember where you stand next time you go out asking Xbox games to be on your favorite platform."

You say that like all ps gamers lobbied to microsoft to give up ganes on playstation. No one asked for any of your xbox games on playstation. No ps gamer asked for it. Microsoft made the decision to do that

Jin_Sakai440d ago

“Nobody wants Xbox games which is why MS is so desperate to go multiplat now.”

What if they sell well in PlayStation? Do we call them PlayStation games then.

FinalFantasyFanatic440d ago

I already have a PC and buy most Microsoft games there anyway, the only thing I would want is the remaining Halo and Gears games, I really can't think of many Xbox games I would want if I didn't even have the PC.

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rlow1441d ago

They already have a game on Xbox.

MLB the show….. get over it.

Elda441d ago

LOL! A baseball game? The only reason it's on XB because the MLB owns the licence & wanted The Show to be multi-plat. You won't be seeing any PS exclusive action/adventure single player games on an XB.

MrNinosan440d ago

They have Destiny 2 as well.

Christopher441d ago

Sony doesn't need the market share help like Xbox.

But...

***Sony and Nintendo should refuse to let Microsoft profit by peddling their old failing games on their consoles. ***

This is not good thinking. And it honestly sounds more petty than anything else. Sony and Nintendo will take a 30% cut of all game sales just for Microsoft having to use their platform, which means for doing the same thing they do for everyone else, they will be getting paid to compete even more competently against Microsoft. Restricting it only hurts the industry and their bottom line, doesn't help.

Einhander1972441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

Microsoft doesn't deserve more than zero percent market share. And certainly it's not Sony and Nintendo's job to help Microsoft get market share, that is crazy talk.

Thirty percent is less than the seventy percent Microsoft is getting, and Microsoft is selling them something they would have gotten if Microsoft didn't buy up publishers, which they are now using to ransom and bully Sony into doing what they want.

And you call me petty in the face of what Microsoft is doing and the fact they would happily put PlayStation out of business and have taken some of the biggest franchises away from PlayStation owners for nothing other than self serving goals. But I'm the petty one... sure...

If Microsoft buys all the publishers (who had very profitable businesses) then can't fund them and damages the industry whos fault is that... it's not Sony and Nintendo's fault.

Are you going to blame Sony and Nintendo for the 5000 people who have lost their jobs due to mergers next? Is it Sony and Nintendo's fault that Microsoft created a game service that destroyed their own profits?

It's absolutely bonkers to think Sony and Nintendo have ANY responsibility in propping up Microsoft.

Microsoft 100% would put PlayStation and Nintendo out of business in a heartbeat.

Christopher441d ago

***And you call me petty in the face of what Microsoft is doing***

Hey, I hate it, but Microsoft is doing legal stuff and spending tons of money to do it that could result in utter failure by 2027. They're going an extremely risky route.

***If Microsoft buys all the publishers (who had very profitable businesses) then can't fund them and damages the industry whos fault is that...***

Theirs. And, guess what, their share holders will force them to sell those purchases to make back losses and to focus on more profitable areas of the business. Microsoft isn't just willing to lose money over and over when they're hurting primarily themselves and their bottom line. Sony and Nintendo aren't reliant on Microsoft still.

***Are you going to blame Sony and Nintendo for the 5000 people who have lost their jobs due to mergers next?***

You're confused and blaming the wrong people. Blame the governments for allowing this level of centralization under one company. Blame ABK for selling in the first place. Blame Gearbox and others with executives focused on lining their pockets with money than concerns for the industry.

*** It's absolutely bonkers to think Sony and Nintendo have ANY responsibility in propping up Microsoft. ***

What's bonkers is you thinking that Microsoft putting their games on other platforms is a sign that they're using Sony and Nintendo and not that they are reliant on them to continue existing. This is a sign of Microsoft heading more and more towards being a software company, not them putting the competition out of business.

Einhander1972441d ago

"Hey, I hate it,"

No, you encourage it. You are encouraging it right now.

"Theirs. And, guess what, their share holders will force them to sell those purchases to make back losses and to focus on more profitable areas of the business. Microsoft isn't just willing to lose money over and over when they're hurting primarily themselves and their bottom line. Sony and Nintendo aren't reliant on Microsoft still."

What does that have to do with anything? Let them bleed money, why should I, Sony or Nintendo care? If their shareholder force them to sell, good, hope it happens sooner than later. Hopefully Sony and Nintendo not helping them sell games and make profits accelerates that process. That's kind of my whole point.

"You're confused and blaming the wrong people. Blame the governments for allowing this level of centralization under one company. Blame ABK for selling in the first place. Blame Gearbox and others with executives focused on lining their pockets with money than concerns for the industry."

What the heck are you even talking about... all your doing is shifting the blame and it's a pretty sad attempt at that... This is also just a sad tired "oh hate the government" "government bad" excuse, I'm disappointed you chose to go down that route, perhaps you think by saying "government bad" you'll get upvotes, and on this site you might, but it's still wrong and a bad argument.

(P.S. the FTC is still fighting this merger.)

"What's bonkers is you thinking that Microsoft putting their games on other platforms is a sign that they're using Sony and Nintendo and not that they are reliant on them to continue existing. This is a sign of Microsoft heading more and more towards being a software company, not them putting the competition out of business."

No, if that was true they wouldn't be making another console and they wouldn't be putting old games and indies on PlayStation. When Microsoft starts putting big games on PlayStation and Nintendo and stops competing with them directly then you can make that statement, not until then. Until then they are just using this to to help a business which DIRECTLY competes and takes money away from PlayStation and Nintendo.

FLAT OUT Microsoft is doing this to benefit themselves, not Sony or Nintendo. This is not altruism.

Christopher440d ago

*** No, you encourage it. You are encouraging it right now. ***

No, I'm not. This isn't some all or none game. World doesn't work like that. I'm not sitting here saying "Everyone should buy Microsoft games right now! If you don't buy, you're hurting Microsoft and they need money more than Sony or Nintendo so you have to buy their games!"

Me explaining how business works to you isn't me going "Man, I'm really happy we're in this spot in the first place." Nor do I think "Bleed Microsoft dry and force them to sell everything off to another conglomerate." is the right answer here.

So, no. You're just wrong. You're arguing irrationally.

***What the heck are you even talking about... all your doing is shifting the blame and it's a pretty sad attempt at that...***

You don't understand how any of this works. Honestly. In order to stop businesses from doing anything, you need governments and agencies focused on stopping them from doing too much. Without them, Microsoft would have won ages ago.

You're arguing irrationally and ignorantly.

*** FLAT OUT Microsoft is doing this to benefit themselves, not Sony or Nintendo. This is not altruism. ***

FLAT OUT. Microsoft is being forced to do this because of the losing position they've put themselves into and this benefits Sony and Nintendo more than them. Sony and Nintendo aren't changing their market reach, Microsoft is losing theirs. Plain and simple.

ApocalypseShadow440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

Hold your ground ein. Chris is not understanding that Microsoft is trying to put themselves in a position of control. If they control the most popular franchises, they can try and dictate terms on who gets what and for how much.

It's definitely a ploy. Sony was already getting these games and profiting on their releases on PlayStation from 3rd parties. Now, Microsoft is in the position to tell others what they can get and profit off of their competitors. If they can't support themselves and grow themselves, then they want to profit off of the other two. Which is unheard of in the game industry where your competitor makes money off of your console business.

Actually, it's not unheard of when it comes to Microsoft. If you remember the Immersion lawsuit, Microsoft gave in about haptic feedback. Then, invested into Immersion with their lawsuit against Sony to profit off of the lawsuit. Even though Immersion tried to squirm out of paying Microsoft, they later made Microsoft richer off of Sony.

And I'm right there with you. Sony and Nintendo should deny Microsoft access to their consoles. And let things fall where they may. If Microsoft wants to buy up the industry, then make them pay for it. If jobs are lost, it will be Microsoft's fault, Kotick and every greedy bum involved in selling those developers to Microsoft.

The only way to let Microsoft know that what they did was unquestionably ridiculous, is to make them pay in the millions of dollars in losses as their platform continues to shrink. The industry can survive without Microsoft. After the industry crash, things picked up because of Nintendo. When all the other competitors dropped out the race, Nintendo and Sega thrived. The industry thrived when Sony targeted teens and young adults. When Sega dropped out, the industry continued. Microsoft leaving will not stop the industry from going. It'll be rocky, then thrive once more. Screw Microsoft. They deserve no Sony games on their platform. And they don't deserve porting their games to others after being shady and spending billions to control the most popular franchises.

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Gamer75441d ago

Sony could put some of their older games on Xbox like they do for PC

badz149441d ago

Who wrote this piece of crap? Phil Spencer?

Tedakin440d ago

Okay. In the future Microsoft can stop putting Call of Duty on PS and kill the brand. Jim Ryan's words, not mine :)

shinoff2183440d ago

Maybe not in the end. It'd all go back up. If ms got to a point where everything released on ps it would sell more consoles, more games. Gotta buy these games on something. Alot of people would migrate.

Markdn440d ago

Great comment I couldn't have said it more perfect myself, And lik we should agree with the comments on a clearly xbox pushing biased website. That deletes. Comments it doesn't agree with loooool. Poor journalism at its peak with this article. Maybe he missed the /S at the end of it lol

1Victor440d ago (Edited 440d ago )

First of all I’m not going to waste my time on this article just the headline sound like a post from Orchard latest account 45 minutes ago with a January 1 birthday.
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Now to answer the article headline, since when have the gaming industry followed the company in last place except for copying positive change to the community.
Sony is making money, sold 52m consoles,PSN is making money without day 1 exclusivity, PlayStation community/PC BUY GAMES. Xbox is bleeding money since day 1 but hey Microsoft can buy Sony if they want they got the money and can keep putting trucks loads of money in the hole called Xbox forever 🤦🏿
Editing for thumbs mis writing

Andrew336440d ago

Hi fi Rush and Grounded both reviewed well. Also Sea of Thieves has come a long way since its release so don't pretend like they are some trash games that nobody wants.

GhostScholar439d ago

That is outlandish 🤣 I hate to rub the ponies in here the wrong way but sea of thieves is a huge success and hardly failing. Whether you are interested in it or not is fine, but pentiment, Hi fi rush, sea of thieves, and grounded are all very good games. are they cinematic 3rd person crying simulators like most Sony first party? No, but good none the less

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MaximusPrime_441d ago

Unlike Microsoft, Sony aren't struggling, so no need to go multiplat

purple101441d ago

Sony: “helldivers doing well, better hire more and expand that team”

Microsoft: “Damn this quarters financials are a disaster, quick get rid of another 100 people at blizzard, that’ll fix it”

BlackCountryBob440d ago

But the weird thing is, Disaster financials for Microsoft was “only” making $146 billion profit in 2023.

Moe-Gunz440d ago

@Purple I agree with your statement. However, just distinguish Xbox from MS as a whole. Microsoft is doing well. Xbox division is not.

InUrFoxHole441d ago

Oh god. Dude you are delusional 😂 🤣 🙄

Christopher441d ago

Care to explain how they are delusional rather than emoji your way out of a real argument?

InUrFoxHole441d ago (Edited 441d ago )

@Chris
Sure sweetie. Sony is already multiplat. Case closed. Move along now. Here's an emoji for the road ... ✌️

Christopher441d ago

***Sony is already multiplat. Case closed.***

I mean, if you want to equate a handful of Sony games versus every Xbox game going same day and release on PC and now, curated games similar to Sony, going to competing consoles, sure.

Thank you for at least explaining your argument.

InUrFoxHole440d ago

@Chris
This is the way. Sony fans need to accept this now. Day and date will be the standard. I don't get the push back from some gamers. As consumers I see nothing wrong with having the ability to play all games

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Tedakin440d ago

You haven't been following the news very closely have you?

Zeref440d ago

Have you been living under a rock? Sony is selling hardware. But they are struggling with their profit margins. Their games are too expensive and aren't profitable enough.

This is straight from their CEO's mouth.

Also with MS owning ABK. If anyone is struggling between the two. It's Sony lol

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Crows90439d ago

It doesn't cost them too much when they make it all back and lots more. That makes no sense.

But when MS just keeps on giving handouts to Xbox with no returns yeah....eventually daddy has to open the big wallet to get Xbox something shiny...

neomahi440d ago

That's all that needs to be said, really

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Zeref439d ago (Edited 439d ago )

Their own investors disagree.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/0...

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RaidenBlack441d ago

If you really gotta bring some exclusive PS love to Xbox,
Other than maybe some older GaaS (remember Destruction AllStars?) or maybe FF7 Remake Intergrade (if SE insists) and SpiderMan 1(if Marvel insists)? ... I dont think any other PS title is jumping to Xbox anytime soon.

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Christopher3d ago

I'm kind of hoping they drop most hardware support here with a 'good enough console' next generation and focus more on being a publisher. Obviously that is doing well for them and they can still push cloud gaming since it's going to tons of smart TVS and devices. They're now the largest video game publisher in the world, if they aren't doing the most sales and pre-orders, then they would be in trouble. They aren't.

Lightning772d ago

They're gonna try again with a new gen console. If they want to compete they need to actually be competive. Say games like Halo, Blade Elder Scrolls or whatever big game it is. Needs to only be on Xbox and PC. If those games go multiplat it needs to be after a few years or at least a year later definitely not 6 months as a good portion of ppl will wait. Knowing MS they'll probably try and compete, then when things don't go there way they pivot and change the metrics again.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

I don't think you're reading the tea leaves here. Leadership hasn't used the word "exclusive" in quite a while, and they're now boasting about PS sales. They're probably done with consoles and exclusive at this point.

DodoDojo2d ago

I don't think they'll try. They have been beating a dead horse for so long now and they have finally realized it isn't going nowhere.

Fearmonkey2d ago

MS is going to drop being hardware exclusive, they are going publisher and subscription. You will be able to buy a Xbox, but you will be able to play on any platform, that's their new goal. After the hit with Oblivion remastered and major sales on PS5, no more Xbox/PC exclusives long term..

rlow12d ago

I think with the latest price hike on their console, they’re well on their way to axing hardware.

Christopher2d ago

Hardware axing entirely is bad news. They've sold most of their hardware on the Series S this generation. I think if they capture a lower hardware market that can still buy games (especially on sale), they'll actually hit a good market considering how the economy is going. Especially in the U.S. People are going to want to keep gaming and streaming isn't that good for online gaming at all.

Lightning772d ago

@crazy they've stated multiple times they're going another gen. The next gen Controller even got leaked.

Tired of repeating myself whenever it comes to this subject of Xbox having another gen.

IRetrouk2d ago

Xbox consoles are done, all we gonna get is some branded 3rd party shite at best, ms aint interested in being a console manufacturer no more, this much is obvious.

hiawa232d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has too much money for that. They are rumored to release a PC/console hybrid in 2026. They will push all you hope as a publisher while having new hardware next year, so the games will appear on their platform and every other platform which is good to me if the goal is to sell software. If that is where the money is why would anyone fault MS for that? The prices are going to be insane for the next PlayStation and console from Microsoft, though, but it is what they voted for, so this is what we got.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

I think they have to at this point I'm sure they are developing new hardware because they still have to team on payroll but it's absolutely a hail mary play.

They want to try and shift the console to be more like a PC so development costs are drastically reduced you don't need your trams to develop a Xbox version if the PC version will already run jon your console ust have it preconfigured with the graphical settings to make it seem less PC like and job done using uwp apps.

I can see it working for a few years but eventually there will be problems like with the series s as pc hardware typically ages out faster than console hardware I guess the jury's out on how it goes when your console is forced architecture will it still be a development target 5 years later will it slow PC hardware growth if games have to account for such weak hardware 7 years on

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

“We continue to transform the business and focus on margin expansion as we bring our games to over 500 million monthly active users across devices. We ended the quarter as the top publisher by pre-orders and pre-installs on both Xbox and PlayStation Store.”

Amazing news!

Xbox reigning within rival territory.

Big slap in the face of haters who used to crap on Xbox´s games and its quality.

IAMRealHooman2d ago

........you must be part owl, you keep 180ing, your position.

-Foxtrot2d ago

One minute he says that they will NEVER go third party

Now he's all for it like this was Microsofts grand master plan all along.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@-Foxtrot

"One minute he says that they will NEVER go third party"

Fact.

"Now he's all for it like this was Microsofts grand master plan all along."

False.

Never said it was Microsoft´s master plan all along. But it is REALLY working for us, as the fact that you´ll be able to enjoy Xbox gamers isn´t killing us. Rather the contrary, we are happy that everybody is funding our games on Gamepass.

Specially now with the imminent new $80 price tag for Xbox first party games.

It is what it is.

IAMRealHooman1d 16h ago

So xbox division can't afford to fund new xbox games on GP subscribers alone?
ooooh your in trouble imma tell papa phil and he's gonna take away your xbox card

IAMRealHooman2d ago

how about that massive price hike?

Relientk772d ago

He loves it. Now he gets to support the trillion dollar company even more by giving them more of his money.

Reaper22_2d ago

I agree.. great news for Microsoft and tbe xbox brand. Your Playstation is now a xbox. Microsoft wasn't kidding around when they said xbox will be everywhere. Now they are laughing all the way to the bank. Imo sony needs to do similar things. They're putting their biggest titles on PC. Might as well bring them over to other consoles too. They aren't making much on console sales.

IAMRealHooman2d ago

Of course MS wants PlayStation owners, their is literally twice as many of them.

andy852d ago

Theres been one game in the last few years that's been good. Indy. Long way to go before you start talking about their games and their quality

Bathyj2d ago

Xbox gamers really are the strangest demographic. Not so long ago you are all saying PlayStation isn't the competition Amazon is because Phil said so. You love to parrot what your corporate talking say. That wasn't actually true Xbox and PlayStation were in direct competition but because Xbox was losing so badly Phil had to act like they weren't.

Cut to present day and Xbox and PlayStation aren't competition because Xbox has no hardware presence it's zero. In fact Microsoft is now a third party publisher and they need PlayStation they don't need Xbox or Xbox gamers they need PlayStation gamers and PC gamers and mobile phone gamers and switch gamers.

You're here cheering for the fact you've become irrelevant because you think it's important that your uncle Phil is making money. You think PlayStation gamers are upset if Microsoft releases more good games in a year than sony does. when Microsoft makes a good game you shout take that playstation!

PlayStation gamers simply say thank you I will third party publisher that makes me games

Reaper22_2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think you're confused. Microsoft never saw Sony as their biggest competitor. They've reiterated it for years. Sony is doing the same thing by putting their biggest franchises on PC, which is OK with Microsoft. Their will be more playstaion games coming to Microsoft ecosystems. Maybe not to xbox consoles but playstation won't be the only place you can play their games. Kind of how it is now. I would bet that they are making plans to do just that but they probably fear the backlash from their fanbase which is silly because noone is gonna stop playing games just because it's on on another platform.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"Cut to present day and Xbox and PlayStation aren't competition because Xbox has no hardware presence it's zero."

If that was remotely true you wouldn´t be so mad about Xbox gamers getting day one games on Gamepass that you have to pay full price for.

"PlayStation gamers simply say thank you I will third party publisher that makes me games"

And we´re thankful for Playstation gamers supporting Xbox games funding our day one games on Gamepass.

Like I said: Everybody wins.

gold_drake2d ago

i agree
my friend is also xbox everything, hes the same weird guy ha

gold_drake2d ago

propaganda again?

arent u tired of it yet?

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MrDead2d ago

We brought two of the biggest publishers in the world, cost thousands of people their livelihoods and consolidated a huge part of the industry, look how successful we are at gaming!

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Top Secret Strategy for How to Become the Biggest Publisher in the World:
1. Buy everybody

The3faces2d ago

And this has been standard business practice in every industry. Don't hate the player hate the game! lol

Reaper22_2d ago

Buy everybody....if you can.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

I have no doubt that the vast majority of developers and studios will be looking at Microsoft as far job security is a concern.

Microsoft will allow its studios to release their games to every single platform, which means more investment on new games, more money, more jobs positions, better payment, benefits and recognition among gamers worldwide.

You though MS would crash and burn

You want MS to leave gaming forever but GAMERS clearly wants otherwise.

You said MS doesn´t know how to make great games but Xbox games dominating sales on Playstation clearly says otherwise.

Now you also have Playstation gamers to blame for helping the rich to get richer.

I warned you. You were on a fool´s errand all the time.

Now all you can do is watch as MS and Xbox gaming grows bigger and better than ever and release games for everyone!

crazyCoconuts2d ago

At the end of this road, Bethesda, Activision, etc, will still be releasing games for everyone and Xbox consoles will be no more.

If that's what you claim to have foreseen, then congratulations, you win.

MrDead2d ago

You think three major publishers no longer competing and thousands fired to feed the piggies at MS is a good thing, I don't.

More and more owned by fewer and fewer is what you're cheering for, all that leads to is $80 first party games kid.

Luc202d ago

When you have to say that something was a success, it means it wasn't

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