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Gamers Are Finally Realizing Starfield Was Always Mid

After it failed to get a single Game of the Year nomination, many players are realizing Starfield was always a very mediocre title.

phoenixwing225d ago (Edited 225d ago )

I knew it was average but the only reason people are noticing for real is because Bethesdas lazy a$$ won't use a new engine. An up to date engine would have allowed them to trick everyone into thinking the game is OK. How you ask? Simple new engine would have fixed the following: 1. Loading screens from segment to segmant
2. Open world feel. it would have been connected on a new engine instead of in segments
3. Graphics would have been better as well
If those were fixed ppl might have defended it more easily. But they wanted to use the old engine. So it has those immersion breaking things along with the skeleton of the game such as repeated bases and treasures and lifeless planets hampering things. It's just atrocious.

Until Bethesda gets a new engine I'm not buying their games that use the outdated one. I have too much respect for myself.

What's the point of playing the new elder scrolls at this point? Its just going to be starfield all over again.

All we need now is Todd telling me old engines are a feature.

lucian229225d ago

i knew it sucked since they said it had 1000 planets lmao

ironmonkey224d ago

I think they meant those little rocks that float around your ship while in linear walls of space.

DigitallyAfflicted224d ago

Shhhhh, Don't tell the developers, they get upset…

GhostScholar225d ago

This is easily their best looking game. Some of the vistas in the game are stunning. What are you running it on a crt?

Yui_Suzumiya224d ago

Probably running it on a Gameboy, lol

XBManiac224d ago

Nothing some mods on Steam version can't fix: https://youtu.be/R9maLsar4O...

XBManiac224d ago

10 years in development... remember.

Profchaos224d ago

So was duke Nukem forever, dead island 2 and I guess now GTA 6.

Time is never a determination of quality

itsmebryan224d ago

Well at least it came out. I don't know what people were expecting from Starfield? I don't play RPGs and i really enjoy the game and play it whenever i get a chance. It has s much to do and so many ways to play. For me the space combat is the problem. Maybe it's me.

It took nearly 4 year to cancel TLOU factions. I wonder how much time and money was wasted on that game to never come out.

VincentVanBro224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

The game had no edge, no graphical upgrade would fix that. Freedom of choice and an immersive game world isn't an engine problem. Fallout New Vegas was made 13 years ago and still has a better story and a much sharper edge. In Starfield, the seediest place in the known galaxy is essentially just discount Night City with the most generic ideas on display.

Chevalier224d ago

https://www.pcgamer.com/sta...

This is a great explanation of why this game is so mid

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gold_drake225d ago

i think we all knew.
well, most of us.

Leeroyw225d ago

Obscure Observer would like a word please.

kayoss225d ago

I laughed way too hard at this.

Chevalier224d ago

A word for him turns into a novel, but, more like a fan fiction where Phil saves the day. Lol.

ChiefofLoliPolice223d ago

Of course he would. Where is that Phil Spencer brown noser when you need him.

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neutralgamer1992225d ago

We all know it’s the average game, and the only reason it got even any sort of defending is because it’s Xbox exclusive, so that fanbase is going out of his way to deny the fact that it is average

Yesterday or the day before I saw some comments from Xbox fans saying how this game will be much better in one year we all need to stop letting these publishers off the hook man. Now not only are we defending them we are even OK with them launching the games now and fixing it later

Phil Spencer played with fire, and I believe Xbox brand is caught on fire right now, in literal sense, because it’s not selling and third-party games, barely sell any on Xbox. There was talk from Xbox side. The next GTA should be on game pass day one and boulders gate 3 should launch day one on game pass. And if something doesn’t launch on game pass, they simply wait till it does

After all the momentum gain during the Xbox 360 days to see the Xbox brand where it is today is truly saddening I don’t think this was the original vision for Bill Gates and Don Matrick. Did an amazing job if you compare it to what’s going on today with Xbox.

shinoff2183224d ago

The day one stuff I think was a bad idea. And I say that as someone who has used it. As a overall gamer even though I'm more of a Sony fan, it's bad business imo. Older stuff, maybe after a time period but the day one is killer to sales.

Profchaos224d ago

In all fairness I think congratulating Don Matrick is a mistake he took a console and a division that Peter Moore was running amazingly and turned it into Kinect and tv tv tv cause those casual gamers are the big money and Xbox faithful will wait for us the end result they don't wait.

I don't like Philip he's the definition of two faced but he wasn't the source of the problem

FinalFantasyFanatic224d ago

It was pretty obvious what it was going to be before release, I just think some people gas-lighted themselves into thinking it would be better.

gold_drake224d ago

pretty powerful stuff if you can actually pull that off ha.

Knightofelemia225d ago

For a game to be sucking up more cash then a black hole the game is mediocre I am not surprised.

Rude-ro224d ago

All about marketing and paying content creators.
People are so easily duped out of their money and Microsoft spends billions perfecting it,

“Do not sell what the people want to buy, make people buy what you are selling.”
Bill gates

-Foxtrot225d ago

Just a shame more people can’t admit the obvious downward decrease in quality compared to pat Bethesda games. If it wasn’t an exclusive more people would have ripped into it and called Bethesda out.

Leeroyw225d ago

Yet all the paid "gaming journalists" cashed their cheques and gave perfect scores in most cases. Don't put this back on the "gamers".

Yui_Suzumiya224d ago

You gonna say the same thing when GTAGAY comes out? Lol

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10 "Bad" Games I Actually Enjoyed

TNS: "We're shining a light on a bunch of "bad" games that may've been left wanting when it comes to their critical or audience reception."

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Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Good list I've had similar reactions to some games even ones on the list like the order and Callisto

Also I recently grabbed forspoken for, 5 dollars at a eb games Clarence sale and I am actually enjoying it more than I thought I would

Sometimes you just need to give critically panned games a chance

FTLmaster2d ago

Oh gosh, good shout on Forspoken! Genuinely forgot about that one, and haven't got around to playing it. It's on my to-buy-in-a-sale list!

Cacabunga1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Knack was great ! Had a blast with the first one. Haven’t tried the second one though due to backlog

The Fight: Lights Out was also a game i enjoyed very much and highly detailed with great motion control when you understand how they work, which is what pushed people away from this game..

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago

Both The Order and Calisto were harshly treated in my view. I am not saying they are perfect, but the were both really solid games. I personally really liked them despite acknowledging their flaws and coincidentally, got the platinum trophy for both games.

Evil West is another really fun game that's worth checking out for sure.

andy851d 14h ago

Forspoken was great. Never really understood all the criticism. 2nd best traversal in a game after Spiderman

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Yeah gameplay wise I get huge infamous vibes with its combat starting out as low level eventually becoming a unstoppable power spewing killing machine with a wide variety of powers infamous is one of my favourite franchises obviously it's not the same but I love the combat of it so far.

ChasterMies2d ago

I feel like we’re finally starting to see a sea change in how we treat our favorite games. Sure, we all acknowledge that a game can suck and we can still enjoy it. Hopefully this results in meaningful review scores. Personally, I find a lot of bad games are better if you blast through them on the easiest difficulty. Callisto protocol on the image is a good example of this.

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I really liked Calisto, harshly treated for sure and I don't necessarily think it needs to be played on easy to enjoy it. It's not perfect, but it's not the car crash the media portrayed it as either.

I have said it before, but part of the issue is that there is a mind share going on in games coverage, with all the main outfits being personal friends and talking too each other. As such, there is a risk that everyone ends up sharing in the same opinion rather than thinking from themselves. I reckon that's why some games get a universal bashing when consumers actually like the game and equally, games get great reviews across the board and the game doesnt land with consumers.

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Actually, I started liking FO76 after the wastelanders DLC ... it has been my guilty pleasure
other games I can think of Order 1886, Driveclub, Resident Evil 6 (only the Leon part), Alpha Protocol (pretty unique, needs a remake), XIII Remake (after patches), Medal of Honor 2010, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Homefront The Revolution, Enemy Front, Legendary The Box, Faces of War, Conflict: Vietnam, Conflict: Global Storm & Codename: Panzers – Cold War

CosmicTurtle2d ago

Driveclub was genuinely a good game with a poor launch. Alpha Protocol is superb, just a few archaic design choices for the time.

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago

I want past games with interesting setups/mechanics but having some flaws (due to crunch or budget) to be remade so that the gaming community can appreciate and enjoy them as was envisioned and intended by the developers. In contrast to a successful game being remade again just with prettier coat of paint.
Alpha Protocol tops that and I'll include FO:NV as well as an exception (it is popular but features were cut due to limited dev time). And also Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines I, Singularity, KOTOR II and maybe Daikatana.
There might be others which I can't recall atm.

SonyStyled2d ago

I loved Enemy Front. I pre ordered it months prior and remember calling the store to check if it came out that day. The guy never heard of it but confirmed my copy was ready to pick up. Game was simple and basic in a good way. Didn’t have any tacked on extras. A simple mission and objectives in each level. Kind of reminded me of the first Crysis in a way

gold_drake2d ago

The Order was really good. abit short

RiseNShine2d ago

I loved The Order, ridiculous graphics for it's time and a very interesting setting, it was linear but not as bad as people say. Similar thing with Callisto Protocol, i admit that i played it a long time after release so maybe issues were fixed by then, but it was a fantastic Dead Space-like horror game with some of the best graphics i've seen in my life.

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago

Yup, I am afraid to say I waited on Calisto and picked it up for around 30 quid. Once I played it on felt really badly for the devs because the game was really decent.

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Earth Becomes Habitable Again in Starfield, Thanks to this Mod

Thanks to the Starfield Creation Kit, the "Earth Restored" mod has transformed the Earth into a Pine Forest and filled the sea with life.

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Starfield DLC needs to be as awe-inspiring as Shadow of the Erdtree to win players back

Shadow of the Erdtree saw a 1000% player count surge at its launch. Will Starfield’s Shattered Space be able to do the same?

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Brazz14d ago

Spoiler... It Will not. Bethesda is outdated.

anast14d ago

If it gets rid of the loading screens and adds space exploration, it will.

phoenixwing14d ago

loading screens and zones are hardboiled into the game, they would have to remake it to change it. which if they had just made a new engine or used someone else's they wouldn't be in this mess

purple10114d ago

only PSpro release will get rid of there loading, at at minimum, half the time it takes.

lucian22914d ago

nah cuz game has multiple things that have to happen before transition to outer space; issue is it isnt seamless

BoneMagnus14d ago

I played Starfield this past weekend. I enjoyed it and overall was about 30 hours in, but as soon as I got the e-mail about the GamePass price increase, I cancelled my account and deleted Starfield, Halo, Forza and others off my Series X.

If I want to play those games, I’ll just buy them outright - and truth is, I’m pretty sure I won’t. They aren’t worth it to me.

Ninver14d ago

Brutal truth. Thanks gor being honest.

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