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Sony PlayStation 5 Pro reportedly features AMD RDNA3 GPU with 60 Compute Units

Sony PS5 Pro specs Sony’s Project Trinity, aka PlayStation 5 Pro. The new details come from the Kepler and ResetEra forums, where alleged specs for the next-gen console have been released. The system known as PS5 Pro has been the subject of speculation for several months now.

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ZycoFox508d ago

Still Zen 2, CPU bottlenecked games that run at 30fps (probably GTA 6) on base console will still be 30fps.. just smoother if there's dips on the base PS5.

Guess they couldn't afford a modern CPU in the console without putting the price out of reach of typical console buyers.

DarXyde508d ago

More likely, the upgrades will shine through in dedicated components to handle things like ray tracing or, as I mentioned in another topic, ray shortening. If it features something like the latest FSR, I think it's going to save a ton of hardware resources too.

Playstation doesn't really take a brute force approach to hardware since the Cerny era. I suspect this will have 3-5 more TF but will focus on dedicated hardware they'll be test driving for PS6 and software-based optimizations.

Really, visuals are already in a very good place. The focus should really be on performance and other immersive factors (e.g., lighting, sound).

I don't see the real benefit of a Pro model beyond VR, but that's just me. It's at least interesting to speculate.

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TheEroica508d ago

How about focusing on gameplay instead of lighting and sound...? Everyone talks about what a great boost to performance will be but no one mentions the obvious diminishing returns when you're playing a beautiful product you've probably played two dozen times already with very subtle changes... Ps 5 pro will give you better light and sound, but gameplay will still be meh in the modern day.

DarXyde508d ago

TheEroica,

"How about focusing on gameplay instead of lighting and sound...?"

In the comment you are replying to:

"The focus should really be on performance and other immersive factors (e.g., lighting, sound)."

By performance, I am clearly talking about how it is traditionally understood, especially as we have "performance mode" for many titles nowadays.

Grilla508d ago

They can’t just throw any cpu they want into it, it has to be zen 2 for compatibility.

DickyD1226508d ago

Shhh stop with the logic you'll hurt it's brain.

Einhander1972508d ago (Edited 508d ago )

I'm sure they could use any CPU they want just like they are moving to RDNA 3 with some RDNA 4 features for the GPU, but the issue is that what this guy is talking about is B.S.

This is just the xbox fanboy version of RDNA 1.5 all over again, they know that PS5Pro is going to run circles around their hardware, don't listen to these xbox guys all they are trying to do is spread misinformation.

Sony knows they are doing,

DickyD1226508d ago

Tell me you don't know how computer components work without telling me.

ZycoFox508d ago (Edited 508d ago )

Yeah I won't tell you, these guys can tell you because they know nothing too right?

https://youtu.be/YDmpaa3qmR... basically confirms my point. Thanks tho ;)

Haki1112508d ago

@number1 Kepler even says it's zen 2 with higher clock speeds. The Sony Defense Force is dense

Einhander1972508d ago (Edited 508d ago )

Number1TailzFan

Digital Foundry is the propaganda arm of Microsoft.

Sony knows what they are doing they have the best some of engineers in the industry, digital foundry makes videos....

The PS3 Cell marketecture with it's SPU's is the basis of every modern GPU compute unit.

PS4 had NUMA which was a tech designed for super computers which used unified memory clusters. The PS4 was the first commercial device to use the feature. NUMA allows the CPU and the GPU to work off the same data set within the memory simultaneously, it's one of the main reason the PS4 was so much more powerful than the xbone.

PS4 Pro had hardware based upscaling in the form of Checkerboard, 2 years before NVIDIA brought DLSS to market and it needed to use server clusters to train it. AMD almost certainly took what they learned from checkerboard and used this idea to create FSR which didn't release until 4 years after the PS4 Pro.

The PS5 has it's storage architecture which uses a custom decompression chip which allows games like Horizon and Spider-Man ect to load from the UI directly into the game in 7-10 seconds as well as the Tempest Audio which can do full ray traced audio for hundreds of sources in real time.

I am 100% certain Digital Foundry will still be looking for that 17% when PS5 Pro releases with it's full hardware AI upscaling chip and RDNA 4 raytracing that separates the RT computations from the shaders onto it's own circuits.

You guys with your .5's and 17 percents and PlayStation doesn't have ML and can't do FSR blah blah blah types are going to be real disappointed.

anast508d ago

And the PS5 still plays way better than a PC at the same price. It's actually crazy. To play GTA 6 at 60+fps with decent resolution would set you back at least $1000. $1000 is actually being generous to run a game like GTA. Let's not even talk about the disparity between what we got with a PS4 and the PCs at the time.

RaidenBlack508d ago

well if the devs are too lazy to properly optimize PC ports ... it ain't the PC components' fault ... its the software's fault.

anast508d ago

@Raiden

You have a point. But I am not sure to limit it could be optimized to where I could go buy a $500 pc and it run like a PS5. I mean that I am not actually sure.

Sephiroushin508d ago (Edited 508d ago )

Its hard to find a 500$ to run like the console from scratch once you have one made its pretty easy to upgrade, but yea it would need to be premade and on sale (a lucky find) or buying parts bit by bit (not recommended) a PC is not a machine just for playing videogames like a console, you can do a lot more on it, also usually games on console are equivalent of a mix between medium/low and upscaled resolution on PC but people goes to a PC and wants to put everything on ultra with a Nvidia xx50 or amd equivalent and compare it to console which is just wrong!

mkis007508d ago

Setting yourself up for an epic fail.

EvertonFC508d ago

Did you even read the article 😂🤣

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DickyD1226508d ago

Zen2 is not completely compatible with zen3. Yes computing may be the same but everything coded for zen2 couldn't release without a zen3 patch. (Mostly sonys unannounced games.) It would be cost effective to use zen2 cpu also with better die yields and higher clock speeds. Using some crap YouTube video to affirm your already dumb point doesn't help your case kid.

Pyrofire95507d ago

If it really is Zen 2 that's a bummer, Zen has gotten much better. I suppose it might be for compatibility but that still blows.

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anast508d ago

I would day 1 this, if I could.

lukasmain508d ago

Lots of people will. The Pro console will easily sell out.

Sonic1881508d ago

Recap on all the rumors/leaks 😎

✅Codename “Project Trinity”
✅”4K Ray-tracing monster”
✅23.04 TFLOPS
✅Faster loading times
✅New Custom APU
✅TSMC 5/4nm Process
✅8 Cores based on Zen 4
✅Integrated GPU
✅30 WGP
✅60 CU
✅iGPU (RDNA 3 or RDNA 3.5)
✅APU may feature 96 ROPs
✅(50% more than base PS5)
✅Higher CPU clocks at 3.6GHz
✅Higher GPU clocks at 2.7GHz
✅16GB GDDR6 Memory
✅Built-in NVMe SSD enhancements
✅18000mts memory
✅Consistent 4K/60fps
✅New performance mode for 8K
✅Accelerated Ray Tracing
✅Well advanced in development
✅In development since early 2022
✅Demos are already ongoing
✅Studios receive dev kits Nov 2023
✅Aiming for Nov 2024 launch
✅The last major hardware before PS6
✅PS6 is targeting 2028 launch

RaidenBlack508d ago

Where'd you get the 23.04TF from?
14.33 TF is what the article states (RDNA3 dual issue compute is of very limited use and is restricted to certain few common packed FP16 instructions, so the 28.76TF is unlikely, RDNA3 dual issue was also micro-tested by chipsandcheese.com on a 7900XTX)

Sonic1881508d ago

This one with 23.04TF. Still speculation though

https://www.google.com/amp/...

RaidenBlack508d ago

seriously? Rino?
all he/the account does is post pretty tweets on X ... not a good source

StarkR3ality508d ago

I'm sorry Sonic, but you don't know what you talk about.. there is no console they can make that will perform well in Ray Tracing. Unless they wanna start charging over £1000, which people won't pay.

They'd need at least RTX 3080/4070 levels of performance, and even Then cut backs on PC are needed. GPU's 3x more powerful than PS5

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Sonic1881508d ago

@Stark

Fair enough but it will still be the most powerful *console* out next year. First party exclusives and third-party games will definitely look better and have better performance than their competitors. Tbh PS5 games looks better already imo. I won't be getting a PS5 Pro because I believe the RTX 5000 series will be out by then

DeadlyFire507d ago

all rumors hold some salt. Who knows its all a guessing game. Even a small upgrade they could easily hit 20 TF. A low spec 75W AMD Radeon 7600S mobile gpu can hit 15 Tflops at 2200 Mhz with 28 CU and The 7700S with 32 CU runs at 2500 Mhz and hits 20 Tflops. When the AMD Radeon 8000 series leaks we will see a better picture of where to throw the estimates. Rumors state 60 CU and 2500 Mhz likely and RDNA 3 which means it likely reaches a higher Tflop range than RDNA 2 spec. Either way I look at it that number does seem possible. Even if they just convert the same chip over to RDNA 3 add more CU and boost the clock to 2800 Mhz. 20 or so Tflops is definitely possible. GPUs are evolving pretty fast. The top ones touching 50-60 Tflops. In a couple of years or less maybe 100.

Sonic1881506d ago (Edited 506d ago )

I agree

victorMaje508d ago

I’m not convinced the PS5 has reached a point where a pro is needed. Devs have always optimized more as the gen went on, some of the best games have come out towards the end.
PS5 still has a lot of optimization potential, I feel Pro models are a brute-force approach.

isarai508d ago

Same, like we're just now starting to see games you usually see in like year 2 of previous generations where all limitations of last gen are left behind and we really start to see something new from even the smaller games.

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dumahim508d ago

Obviously it isn't needed. But it's something people will buy.

darthv72508d ago

If this becomes the norm... people can pretty much just wait the first 3-4 years of a consoles generation and know there will be a better model. Then they can play the games released up to that point as if for their first time.

but... what if all of this isn't real? What if this is all just speculation for the eventual PS6 instead? I remember reading that the 4Pro was just a 'to see if we could do it'. It wasn't meant to be an ongoing thing. And yet many are wanting it to be an ongoing thing. Personally, I prefer they stick to a model and refine their skills at utilizing it over the course of its lifetime (generation). I have seen some fantastic releases come out later in a consoles life that eclipse what was released initially. And the hardware was the same throughout.

Are developers getting lazier and just relying on the hardware instead of their own programming abilities?

Inverno508d ago

I disagree, Unreal 5 is packing some features that clearly can't run on these consoles, despite being made with that engine more in mind. The lighting tech that they want to keep pushing has proven to be far more taxing in the hardware, and so far most games have been using those features at far lower settings and that can be seen when doing comparisons with their PC counterparts. Add on top the push for more games to have a performance mode, where most of these features are turnt off. These consoles can't have both.

StarkR3ality508d ago (Edited 508d ago )

Unreal 5 games aren't exactly running well on almost £1000 GPU's, if you think an extra TFLOPs is gunna solve that issue you're sorely mistaken

Binarycode508d ago

Correct.

Most games are crossgen or using old engines.

Unreal 5 still isn't in a great place performance wise.

I'm happy with what PS5 is pushing out tbh.

You can always ask for more and more, That's what PC's are for. Custom builds that can be anything you want in you throw the money at it.

StarkR3ality508d ago

Agreed, just do the best with what you have, the only reason the previous pro models were warranted was 4k, there's no need this time around.

The pro was twice as powerful, and the Xbox one X was around 5x more powerful. If the rumoured 40-50% uptake in performance is true, there's 0 point.

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derek508d ago

Day 1, name your price Sony and I will pay it.

ThEusAisPoisonous507d ago

Seems like you’ve already given your soul away, so let’s hope it doesn’t cost that.

derek503d ago

Given my soul away? Lol. Don't be a weirdo.

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Microsoft CEO Boasts Gaming Success Across Xbox, PlayStation, PC Game Pass, and More

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Christopher3d ago

I'm kind of hoping they drop most hardware support here with a 'good enough console' next generation and focus more on being a publisher. Obviously that is doing well for them and they can still push cloud gaming since it's going to tons of smart TVS and devices. They're now the largest video game publisher in the world, if they aren't doing the most sales and pre-orders, then they would be in trouble. They aren't.

Lightning772d ago

They're gonna try again with a new gen console. If they want to compete they need to actually be competive. Say games like Halo, Blade Elder Scrolls or whatever big game it is. Needs to only be on Xbox and PC. If those games go multiplat it needs to be after a few years or at least a year later definitely not 6 months as a good portion of ppl will wait. Knowing MS they'll probably try and compete, then when things don't go there way they pivot and change the metrics again.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

I don't think you're reading the tea leaves here. Leadership hasn't used the word "exclusive" in quite a while, and they're now boasting about PS sales. They're probably done with consoles and exclusive at this point.

DodoDojo2d ago

I don't think they'll try. They have been beating a dead horse for so long now and they have finally realized it isn't going nowhere.

Fearmonkey2d ago

MS is going to drop being hardware exclusive, they are going publisher and subscription. You will be able to buy a Xbox, but you will be able to play on any platform, that's their new goal. After the hit with Oblivion remastered and major sales on PS5, no more Xbox/PC exclusives long term..

rlow12d ago

I think with the latest price hike on their console, they’re well on their way to axing hardware.

Christopher2d ago

Hardware axing entirely is bad news. They've sold most of their hardware on the Series S this generation. I think if they capture a lower hardware market that can still buy games (especially on sale), they'll actually hit a good market considering how the economy is going. Especially in the U.S. People are going to want to keep gaming and streaming isn't that good for online gaming at all.

Lightning772d ago

@crazy they've stated multiple times they're going another gen. The next gen Controller even got leaked.

Tired of repeating myself whenever it comes to this subject of Xbox having another gen.

IRetrouk2d ago

Xbox consoles are done, all we gonna get is some branded 3rd party shite at best, ms aint interested in being a console manufacturer no more, this much is obvious.

hiawa232d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has too much money for that. They are rumored to release a PC/console hybrid in 2026. They will push all you hope as a publisher while having new hardware next year, so the games will appear on their platform and every other platform which is good to me if the goal is to sell software. If that is where the money is why would anyone fault MS for that? The prices are going to be insane for the next PlayStation and console from Microsoft, though, but it is what they voted for, so this is what we got.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

I think they have to at this point I'm sure they are developing new hardware because they still have to team on payroll but it's absolutely a hail mary play.

They want to try and shift the console to be more like a PC so development costs are drastically reduced you don't need your trams to develop a Xbox version if the PC version will already run jon your console ust have it preconfigured with the graphical settings to make it seem less PC like and job done using uwp apps.

I can see it working for a few years but eventually there will be problems like with the series s as pc hardware typically ages out faster than console hardware I guess the jury's out on how it goes when your console is forced architecture will it still be a development target 5 years later will it slow PC hardware growth if games have to account for such weak hardware 7 years on

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

“We continue to transform the business and focus on margin expansion as we bring our games to over 500 million monthly active users across devices. We ended the quarter as the top publisher by pre-orders and pre-installs on both Xbox and PlayStation Store.”

Amazing news!

Xbox reigning within rival territory.

Big slap in the face of haters who used to crap on Xbox´s games and its quality.

IAMRealHooman2d ago

........you must be part owl, you keep 180ing, your position.

-Foxtrot2d ago

One minute he says that they will NEVER go third party

Now he's all for it like this was Microsofts grand master plan all along.

Obscure_Observer2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@-Foxtrot

"One minute he says that they will NEVER go third party"

Fact.

"Now he's all for it like this was Microsofts grand master plan all along."

False.

Never said it was Microsoft´s master plan all along. But it is REALLY working for us, as the fact that you´ll be able to enjoy Xbox gamers isn´t killing us. Rather the contrary, we are happy that everybody is funding our games on Gamepass.

Specially now with the imminent new $80 price tag for Xbox first party games.

It is what it is.

IAMRealHooman1d 15h ago

So xbox division can't afford to fund new xbox games on GP subscribers alone?
ooooh your in trouble imma tell papa phil and he's gonna take away your xbox card

IAMRealHooman2d ago

how about that massive price hike?

Relientk772d ago

He loves it. Now he gets to support the trillion dollar company even more by giving them more of his money.

Reaper22_2d ago

I agree.. great news for Microsoft and tbe xbox brand. Your Playstation is now a xbox. Microsoft wasn't kidding around when they said xbox will be everywhere. Now they are laughing all the way to the bank. Imo sony needs to do similar things. They're putting their biggest titles on PC. Might as well bring them over to other consoles too. They aren't making much on console sales.

IAMRealHooman2d ago

Of course MS wants PlayStation owners, their is literally twice as many of them.

andy852d ago

Theres been one game in the last few years that's been good. Indy. Long way to go before you start talking about their games and their quality

Bathyj2d ago

Xbox gamers really are the strangest demographic. Not so long ago you are all saying PlayStation isn't the competition Amazon is because Phil said so. You love to parrot what your corporate talking say. That wasn't actually true Xbox and PlayStation were in direct competition but because Xbox was losing so badly Phil had to act like they weren't.

Cut to present day and Xbox and PlayStation aren't competition because Xbox has no hardware presence it's zero. In fact Microsoft is now a third party publisher and they need PlayStation they don't need Xbox or Xbox gamers they need PlayStation gamers and PC gamers and mobile phone gamers and switch gamers.

You're here cheering for the fact you've become irrelevant because you think it's important that your uncle Phil is making money. You think PlayStation gamers are upset if Microsoft releases more good games in a year than sony does. when Microsoft makes a good game you shout take that playstation!

PlayStation gamers simply say thank you I will third party publisher that makes me games

Reaper22_2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think you're confused. Microsoft never saw Sony as their biggest competitor. They've reiterated it for years. Sony is doing the same thing by putting their biggest franchises on PC, which is OK with Microsoft. Their will be more playstaion games coming to Microsoft ecosystems. Maybe not to xbox consoles but playstation won't be the only place you can play their games. Kind of how it is now. I would bet that they are making plans to do just that but they probably fear the backlash from their fanbase which is silly because noone is gonna stop playing games just because it's on on another platform.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

"Cut to present day and Xbox and PlayStation aren't competition because Xbox has no hardware presence it's zero."

If that was remotely true you wouldn´t be so mad about Xbox gamers getting day one games on Gamepass that you have to pay full price for.

"PlayStation gamers simply say thank you I will third party publisher that makes me games"

And we´re thankful for Playstation gamers supporting Xbox games funding our day one games on Gamepass.

Like I said: Everybody wins.

gold_drake2d ago

i agree
my friend is also xbox everything, hes the same weird guy ha

gold_drake2d ago

propaganda again?

arent u tired of it yet?

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MrDead2d ago

We brought two of the biggest publishers in the world, cost thousands of people their livelihoods and consolidated a huge part of the industry, look how successful we are at gaming!

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Top Secret Strategy for How to Become the Biggest Publisher in the World:
1. Buy everybody

The3faces2d ago

And this has been standard business practice in every industry. Don't hate the player hate the game! lol

Reaper22_2d ago

Buy everybody....if you can.

Obscure_Observer2d ago

I have no doubt that the vast majority of developers and studios will be looking at Microsoft as far job security is a concern.

Microsoft will allow its studios to release their games to every single platform, which means more investment on new games, more money, more jobs positions, better payment, benefits and recognition among gamers worldwide.

You though MS would crash and burn

You want MS to leave gaming forever but GAMERS clearly wants otherwise.

You said MS doesn´t know how to make great games but Xbox games dominating sales on Playstation clearly says otherwise.

Now you also have Playstation gamers to blame for helping the rich to get richer.

I warned you. You were on a fool´s errand all the time.

Now all you can do is watch as MS and Xbox gaming grows bigger and better than ever and release games for everyone!

crazyCoconuts2d ago

At the end of this road, Bethesda, Activision, etc, will still be releasing games for everyone and Xbox consoles will be no more.

If that's what you claim to have foreseen, then congratulations, you win.

MrDead2d ago

You think three major publishers no longer competing and thousands fired to feed the piggies at MS is a good thing, I don't.

More and more owned by fewer and fewer is what you're cheering for, all that leads to is $80 first party games kid.

Luc202d ago

When you have to say that something was a success, it means it wasn't

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