Digital Foundry on how Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora is one of the most visually accomplished games of 2023.
The 2023 Ubisoft open-world game looks shockingly good.
It absoluty is not and it's not even close. I platinumed the game and it is nowhere near the best looking game on the console. What a laugh
What that guy smoking it not that go to horizon forbidden west or black myth wokong. I want punch his face for that one.
I don't not even ign or gamespot I buy for myself and see if the game don't put me to sleep.
The only part that looks that good is when you first exit the facility in the beginning. After that it all looks the same...well at least for the first few hours which is all it took for me to get bored.
Digital Foundry addresses the bizarre trend to PlayStation 5 Pro upgrades that can look arguably worse than the standard PS5 version.
The most concerning thing about this is it seems that the more demanding games that run at lower base resolutions are the games that tend to struggle with PSSR. Moving forward until the release of the PS6, games are going to continue to be more demanding as they push the hardware even more. Devs may have to opt to not use PSSR until the kinks can get worked out.
This must be the first time that I heard of a mid gen refresh console running games worse than the base console.
"Everything will look best on PS5 Pro!"
Well, not really
It just depends on how good of a patch is made for the game. Even on pc we have bad ports no matter how strong your Pc really is. This game in particular looked great on base consoles so for it to look bad on pro is a concerning sign. Bigger question is does sony really cares? Because with yoshida leaving soon we don't have any of the older playstation executives left
Overall my thoughts on my Pro is that the upgrade is minimal for a high cost and also doesn't seem to be implemented well.
Probably the worst mid Gen upgrade I've ever seen, and possibly the most pointless console.
I'm a graphics whore and I still struggle to justify it
The lower the res, the harder it is for the upscaler to figure out what is what and make it accurate, which is a problem they should have realized going into this. $750-900+ (depending on region and accessories) for a mid-generation upgrade that doesn't actually work as advertised is a bad look.
This isn't really something that can be worked out. The same thing happens with DLSS for example. The lower your starting resolution the worse the upscaled image will look. There's just much less data/detail for the upscaler to work with. That's what the DLSS quality/perf modes do, they raise or lower the base resolution for better performance or image quality. PSSR will get better but it isn't a miracle worker just like DLSS isn't.
Then they shouldnt be allowed to say it’s enhanced if it’s objectively worse than the original. Its false advertising.
What I find weird is the fact that Pro-patches for Lies Of P and Lords Of The Fallen was great, but a big company like Ubisoft fails on both their Star Wars Outlaws and Avatar patches?? That's wild and concerning at the same time.
as devs get familiar with the tech and as Sony continues to improve upon it, I'm sure PSSR will get better like you said.
It's definitely not a miracle worker, but when the end result is poorer than the system it's supposed to be improving upon, it's definitely a cause for concern.
@Moodie
I do actually play mostly on PC, and I use DLSS. It's a great feature but no it isn't a miracle worker. It's improving your FPS because the game is rendering at such a low FPS in performance mode. If you up that to quality or even native you'll see a huge drop in performance but far better image quality. Obviously performance mode looks better than if you natively ran at that low resolution, but that's not a miracle it's just very good upscaling.
If developers can't do their pro patch properly they shouldn't release one until it's right. It's just making it look bad and Sony should step in.
$700-$800 we’ll spent. There was someone saying to turn off PSSR for Gran Turismo because it made trees blurry and had poor visual effects. Im pretty sure PSSR was one of the big selling points here.
Sony released a console upgrade without a first-party "launch" title.
They are severely understocked on their proprietary disc drive.
The best example of the Pro's impact - Rebirth - is so transformative partially due to just how bad the base version performance mode is.
It seems now there are more "bad" examples of Pro upgrades than there are good. I wonder if Sony will respond in the coming weeks and months to do something for these early adopters being delivered inferior experiences and some an inability to play their physical library... Something like Nintendo's 3DS Ambassador Program
No. There are at most 7 games with bad pssr games out of 50 plus. Those 7 just happen to be big names. Avatar, outlaws, survivor, silent hill on quality mode, dragons dogma 2 with pssr on, and potentially alan wake 2 depending on your preferences. All the others are a net improvement.
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Lmao, spending $700 and any games looking worse is an embarrassment.
PS5 Pro was an unnecessary cash grab mid gen refresh, made to introduce PS6 at a significantly higher price point.
Games needing patches is nothing new for any console... its on the devs for releasing without proper q and a. More examples of good patches than bad exist for it to be on sony. It's a big deal problem. I'm enjoying mine so no need to worry. It's nice having the ability to save money like an adult. Been saving since the first rumors.
The second story pack for Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora, Secrets of the Spires, is available now for owners of the Season Pass!
Epic aerial battles await in the Spires of the Clouded Forest, a spectacular new mountainous region in Pandora's Western Frontier.
This video is pissing me off, because this game does not look as good as Horizon especially Burning Shores (PS5 vs PS5). And what really gets me is he talks about the audio which they NEVER discus about PlayStation games even though most of what he talks about audio is what Tempest has been doing all gen with zero praise from them, in fact they have constantly spread misinformation about Tempest since launch.
For example he talks about the audio distortion from ray traced audio, but this was done just as good maybe even better in Horizon, for example just go to the first major village and there is the big hut where the food guy and the battle mini game, there are tons of NPC in there and when you move in and out and around the outside it's all ray traced every single voice and audio que to still sound accurate.
The reason this game has this level of audio is because this game's lead platform was PS5 and it is a Tempest Audio game, which is then ported onto the other devices. And while I haven't played the other versions of the game I would be willing to bet the audio implementation is best on PS5 with Tempest.
What is happening this gen in the media is such a travesty, PlayStation is dragging the whole industry forward, yet sites like this are aggressively smearing them, misinforming, and purposely not covering the benefits of the platform.
It does look pretty damn good.
I'm playing it and love it, both in co-op and singleplayer.
One of the best looking games on current gen after Burning Shores 🙌