Starfield was 'made to be played for a long time,' but I'm already drifting away

Bethesda's biggest RPG wound up feeling a lot smaller than its earlier ones.

[Vengeance1138]

Still not an excuse for artificially making player progress a snail's pace grind fest. Every moment to moment gameplay segment should matter.
This is just more from Todd "excuse maker" Howard. Todd "It just works" Howard.

[Lightning77]

If he's drifting away after month today then the game did its job. DLC is still yet to release along with additional content. This is only the launch phase of SF just like ES and Fall Out.

Btw I keep hearing something about SF is a LS game? It's definitely 100% not a LS game. Never once pitched as such and it literally can't be LS is always online MP experience. I dont know who or why someone on here made that crap up but I'm not surprised someone would.

[Obscure_Observer]

"If he's drifting away after month today then the game did its job"

lol

Exactly! One month later and he is "already" drifting away.

Not to mention that Bozo is the same person who gave Starfield a 7.5 score. Couldn´t stop playing it ever since. Probably spent more than 400 hours into the game.

Certainly another hypocrite that will most definitely come back to Shattered Space. He said that himself.

[shinoff2183]

I put 70 80 hours into ff 16 and I'd give it a 7.5 8. That don't make a difference. Starfield for me needs a couple updates. I'll wait on those while I play some other rpgs.

[Profchaos]

Bozo that gave it 7.5 that's a bit rough alot of places have it worse

[InUrFoxHole]

Needs an update? Are we talking to patch fixes or are saying it needs more content? Because I find the second one laughable.

[Obscure_Observer]

@InUrFoxHole

"Needs an update? Are we talking to patch fixes or are saying it needs more content? Because I find the second one laughable."

Exactly! Dude´s want/need more content ASAP! He finished the game 4-5 times and still couldn´t have it enough. He sounds depressed. Dude really don´t want to leave. Lol

shinoff2183

"I put 70 80 hours into ff 16 and I'd give it a 7.5 8."

That´s ok. Call me when you find the time (and interest) to go back to FFXVI and went to several new game+ playthroughs and beat that game 4 or 5 times, like this dude did with Starfield.

After all that, don´t mind me if say that your 7.5 don´t reflect the time and interest that you invested in that game with so many amazing games to play.

[Wintersun616]

So if someone plays a game for a long time, that automatically means they must think the game is great? I've played many average games for lots of hours over the years. That doesn't mean I think they're all great games or deserve 9s and 10s. For exaple Fallout 4 is an average 8 at best and still I've played it for over 400 hours across PS and PC. Also a huge game like Starfield requires lots of play time to be reviewed fairly. If you only play it for 20 hours you don't get so many chances to see the same but slightly altered locations over and over again.

Are you really that mad at someone for scoring it 7.5? Calm down dude that's probably a completely reasonable score for this game.

[jwillj2k4]

Well according to the devs it’s mandatory to spend at least 200 hours just to start liking the game.

[jwillj2k4]

You say he spent 400 hours playing it in this post. Then you say he’s beaten the game 5 times in your other post. Well that’s 80 hours a playthrough which is less than the dev team requirement of 200 mandatory hours before finding something to like about the game. Meaning he’s played through the game multiple times in hopes to find some type of enjoyment but has found nothing according the dev teams mandatory 200hr enjoyment requirement. I’d be tired too.

[Crows90]

The game is average. People play average games. Doesn't make them less average.

[Obscure_Observer]

@Wintersun616

"For exaple Fallout 4 is an average 8 at best and still I've played it for over 400 hours across PS and PC."

No sure if anyone told you but *8* stands for GREAT game! If you´d spent 400 hours of your life playing a single game, it´s obvious that you were having a GREAT time it.

"Are you really that mad at someone for scoring it 7.5?"

No really, to me its clear that Bozo from PC Gamer just wanted some free clicks over Starfield. No really different from idiots claiming Starfield is bad but never actually play it.

And there´s some butthurt people form channels that ain´t got review codes and now are on some personal crusade against Bethesda.

"Calm down dude that's probably a completely reasonable score for this game."

You won´t known. Still whatever makes your light shine.

[Wintersun616]

@Obscure_Observer

"No sure if anyone told you but *8* stands for GREAT game! If you´d spent 400 hours of your life playing a single game, it´s obvious that you were having a GREAT time it."

People have different opinions about review scores and it's pointless to debate what an 8 means. And how would you know how I enjoyed the game? Sometimes I was bored doing the same-y "help this settlement" missions, other times I was struggling with the obviously unpolished settlement building, the gameplay mechanics and VATS felt like they were 10 years old, I was slightly upset about the dumbed down RPG elements, I was not very impressed with the armor and weapon customization, it could've been so much better. Thank goodness at least that was fixed by mods. The thing is I can sometimes be quite the completionist and I don't often give up on a game. And I didn't play it again on PC after PS because it was so great, but because I wanted to see how much better it would be with all the mods on PC. It was a lot better but some problems were rooted in the very foundations of the game and couldn't be helped. Actually now that I think about it, if I were to review F4, I wouldn't give it more than a 7.

"No really, to me its clear that Bozo from PC Gamer just wanted some free clicks over Starfield. No really different from idiots claiming Starfield is bad but never actually play it."

I don't get it, you say 8 is great, but reviewing it 7.5 is click bait?

"And there´s some butthurt people form channels that ain´t got review codes and now are on some personal crusade against Bethesda."

Is this crusade in the room right now?

"You won´t known. Still whatever makes your light shine."

That's why I said probably. It seems to be in line with what I've seen and heard of the game. Just an educated guess of the ballpark where I think I would end up scoring this game.

[il-JumperMT]

some people like me force our way to finish the game

[Flawlessmic]

I drifted after 40-50 hrs, still haven't finished the main story line either.

I'll wait for some updates to come through then go back to it, but for now it's forza then SM2 and AW2 ohh and mario wonder

[__SteakDeck__]

Damn. It seems Starfield didn’t live up to your expectations. I remember earlier this year you said Starfield was your most anticipated game.

[Flawlessmic]

Nope, and neither is forza atm.

Both good games but far from what they were promised to be let alone better than what's come before them.

Anyways atleast it's given me plenty to play and tide me over until some of the other big releases still to come this year.

[SyntheticForm]

As did I.

I was enjoying it, but the loading and overall structure is such a turn off. It's also loaded with woke rubbish throughout.

[Crows90]

Glad im not the only one who noticed. Its do dumb. I hate lazy dialogues and starfield has a lot of that throughout. I enjoyed it for about 4-5 hrs. Then I realized...another glorified fetch quest??? At that point I understood that perhaps the main story would do it for me....but it didnt.

I dont expect to come back to this game ever again. Which is a shame. thankfully cyberpunk 2077 exists.

[aconnellan]

Woke rubbish like what?

[Huey_My_D_Long]

"Fawking PrOnOuns"
:)

[UltimateOwnage]

I’m almost there too after 47 hours. And I don’t expect to return as often over the years as I have with Skyrim on every major platform since the PS3. The RNG aspect is too predictable and the fast travel / loading all the time breaks up an already somewhat barren and slow paced walking experience. It’s a good game but it’s just not up to Bethesda’s typical experience “density” IMO, and that’s left me kind of bored of hoarding and rinse/repeating.

[ocelot07]

I gave up may return in a year or so. I just can't get into it at all.

[VincentVanBro]

Play a few dozen hours and it starts to feel reallllllly samey. Without an interesting open world to explore like Skyrim’s, there is no reason to stick around after the credits.

[anast]

This is what happens when an "RPG" turns out to be mid. Starfield's numbers are dipping and Baldur's Gate 3 is still going strong. One is painfully average and the other is generational.

[jznrpg]

The M in MS stands for Mid. Mid-Software

[CrimsonWing69]

I found it to be immensely boring. Though, to be fair, I only played it for several hours until I tapped out. Everyone tells me it gets so much better if you can push through the first few hours.

[Soulsborne]

He meant Modders will fix and keep the game alive for years to come.

[-Gespenst-]

I don't have this game, and I'll probably never play it, tbh. The idea of a space-themed Bethesda RPG was exciting, but when they started actually showing it, I was utterly turned off by how visually unappealing it was (and still is). All the colours are washed out, and everywhere just seems so empty, even the places that aren't supposed to be empty. Also, pretty much all the ships look really ugly. From a visual design point of view at least, I'd say this game is a failure, and judging by what may people are saying, the gameplay doesn't seem to make up for that, at least not fully.

I don't know, if it gets completely overhauled with mods, I might jump in, but right now, it doesn't seem worth it.

[Godmars290]

So the man infamously known for "16 times the detail" now says "made to be played for a long time" and its suppose to be taken as gospel?

Of course Bethesda stands will play this for years like all other Bethesda games, but they're also going to mod it to insane degree.

[SimpleSlave]

#JustWaitForTheMods

Bethesda's new slogan...

[Rizzgawd]

you know after playing BG3, the moment i started starfield and read the dialogue, i knew i wouldn't go past 3 hours before quitting the game

[Firebird360]

Starfield definitely needs some changes.
Its by no means a bad game but its not a 10. But imo could be with patches.
Planets are far to empty, theres no meaningful random encounters. If you're not on a quest theres really no reason to randomly explore because theres really not much to see outside of copy n paste bases.
The map system is absolutely terrible. Local system is even worse and underground its non existent.
Worlds need more reasons to explore and need a vehicle. A 2 person small ship for surface exploration would be awesome.
Level grinding without exploits is far too slow.

[recoctimocassirnff]

I was very angry at MS for blocking this game coming to the PS5.

I was going to play the game on my pc in a way that MS wouldn't get a cent from me, because obviously I wasn't going to support MS efforts to consolidate the industry. But turns out I'm not missing much. Not even worth my time to play it for free.

[Hypertension140]

I feel the same, crazy because a few years ago Microsoft was one of my favorite companies, I appreciate how customer friendly they are, but after these latest actions of acquisitions is quite clear they only care about themselves and love watching lesser companies and its fanbase crash and burn.

I'm done with them forever.

[alexkarkar]

5 hours was 5 hours too long for me. Not a fan of eating shit.

[antikbaka]

it was meant to grind for no reason, it's disrespectful towards players

[Barlos]

That's what happens when the content isn't compelling enough to keep you playing.

I'm over 80 hours into BG3, only just started act 2 and I still can't get enough. I was the same with FFXVI, I really didn't want it to end.

[Elda]

I played for 90 mins Friday, almost 40 hrs in & I think I'm finally starting to get bored with the gameplay of doing nothing but fetch quests. The gameplay loop is the same, Go to a planet use grav jump, sometimes you shoot in space or on a planet, talk talk talk..the same thing over & over that there's really no action in Starfield. I thought as in time the gameplay would get better. The loading is just ridiculous including the number of pain in the ass glitches I've experienced. I only have a few more quests to conclude the main story & then I'm done with Starfield. Phantom Liberty is so much better, been having fun playing that.