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Do We Even Need PS5 Pro or Xbox Series X Pro?

The quicker-than-expected uptake of 4K and HDR-capable TV sets drove demand for mid-gen upgrades for PS4 and Xbox One. Is the same need there for PS5 Pro and XSX Pro?

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Jin_Sakai245d ago (Edited 245d ago )

Do we need it? Probably not but it’s nice to have the option for better looking/performing games and enhanced RT.

PrimeVinister245d ago

If it was the same price or only slightly more expensive, I would consider trading in the OG PS5. But I would probably be more interested in just the Slim model, or if the Pro was a bit smaller than the OG.

A bit like how Xbox One X was quite a svelte piece of kit compared to the 1980s VCR of OG Xbox One as well as able for 4K and HDR.

GrizzliS1987244d ago

I’d like an option to not have to choose between graphics or performance every dam time. If the pro allows for both, I might even replay all the games I had to choose between one or the other. Witcher 3, Valhalla, ratchet, to name a few

darthv72245d ago

Options are always a good thing to have.

-Foxtrot245d ago (Edited 245d ago )

I’m sorry but no

Developers can’t even take advantage of what we have at the minute and still feel they have a pinky finger wrapped around last gen

The options would be meaningless as they wouldn’t be able to take advantage of those either, especially having to think about the base Gen consoles

Also skipping a mid-gen console will allow people to be more taken back with next gen and how good it looks without the whole “preview show”

wolf581244d ago (Edited 244d ago )

Well right now developers using fsr to hit 60
Lord of the fallen runs at 1080p and immortals of avenue at 720p to hit 60...hell too many games cant hit 4k native and 60 and its not all developers fault...from the start we saw the potential of these machines...
I will definitely go and buy xboxsx pro and ps5 pro if it is to play
Starfield atleast at 2k/60
Lord of the fallen 2k/60 with RT
SPIDERMAN 2 2k/60 full RT
Grand turismo 7 4k/60 but with RT
Forza motorsport 4k/60 with RT
Imagine Horizon forbidden west with full RT or the new star was survivor that to hit 60 developers forced to cut resolution to half and the whole RT concept plus some withdraws...respawn studios worked months to give a decent performance mode...
And there iare so many next gen games coming out that cry out for a refreshment...

RaiderNation244d ago

"Developers can’t even take advantage of what we have at the minute"

Not to play devils advocate but, unless you're a developer who's worked on these dev kits, how do you know this?

Rude-ro245d ago

I believe we should get a performance ps5 more than a pro.
1440p @ 120fps with monitor support such as Ultrawide displays and for the fps enthusiast or those that want the far superior performance over 4K resolution.
With software cheating being as bad as it is on pc in popular games…
Would be nice to have a console step into its place for pc/monitor setups.

LonDonE245d ago (Edited 245d ago )

NO just no - how about the give us a sleak version instead and which is better with heat or how about they create a version which has proper legs so it can sit properly horizontally or how about they give us a version which has actual vent holes over the fan like the black face plates you can buy - i swear this is a joke they have not even taken advantage of the power we currently have properly vs throwing another piece of tech - so they have vr and pro pad and then the new pad for streaming - yet the actual base console is designed poor - look up the usb ports and hd ports on the back breaking due to heat out the rear - the console needs a revision but not with power but sleak and less heat etc this is the first gen i have had to buy those face plates with vent holes and a rear fan and also legs so it has clearance for heat - now the ps5 is super cool but should of been designed better with regards to heat and the ports at the back breaking due to heat - sony usually build great tech but the ps5 has been a downgrade - does not look very good looking and over heats and cant even sit properly horizontally as the stand included is trash

lelo2play245d ago

PS5 Pro or Xbox Series X Pro would delay next gen consoles.
They should release next gen consoles in 2026-2027 and forget about the Pro consoles.

Einhander1972244d ago

Next gen is just going to be a more powerful console anyways...

neutralgamer1992245d ago

Have we seen any game take advantage of current consoles? So why do we need even better consoles when developers can’t take advantage of the current ones

Northpoint244d ago

1st parties will always perform well with the current PS5 but a pro model will allow more improved options and will take advantage of multi-plat/3rd party games.

PrimeVinister244d ago

Spider-Man Miles Morales in Fidelity Mode was a 9th-gen. spectacle in the early days

Ratchet and Clank looks incredible.

Spider-Man 2 will definitely step it up a bit as well.

blackblades245d ago

Do we need another one of these articles saying do we need another pro? NO

Obscure_Observer245d ago

"Probably not but it’s nice to have the option for better looking/performing games and enhanced RT"

Bs propaganda! 4090 can´t even run current gen games at native 4k/30fps! Why would anyone want a new pro console which will most definitely perform even worse than 4080?

Nintentional244d ago

Switch over here releasing bangers like TotK and Pikmin 4 on something weaker than your smartphone. We don’t need a more powerful Xbox S/X or PS5 (especially since I just barely finally managed to buy one of each). We need developers to bring out more inventive, well crafted, and completed games that are finished on release date the way Nintendo releases their games.

Queue the Sony drones thumbing this down even though it’s correct 😌 👍🏼

S2Killinit244d ago

I would get a PS5 Pro. But I need a bit more time with my gorgeous PS5.

fr0sty244d ago

To be able to have PSVR2 feature full native resolution on all titles, 120hz, and options to enable ray tracing, yes, it is needed.

fr0sty243d ago

PS5 can't even hit 4K 60 on all games, and VR requires that to be rendered twice, once per eye... even with foveated rendering, it still consumes far more resources than PS5 has to offer to do VR at 4K resolution at framerates above 60fps, so you either have to seriously dumb down the graphics to hit native resolution at 90/120fps, or you have to use frame reprojection. PS5 Pro wouldn't even completely eliminate the need for it, but you could probably get away with reprojecting 90fps to 120 instead of 60 to 90.

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crazyCoconuts245d ago

Are all your games 4k/60 without it? No? Then yes.

Number1TailzFan245d ago

And 60 isn't even really the gold standard these days. More like silver at best.

Profchaos244d ago

I doubt they will be 4k 60 with it to

crazyCoconuts244d ago

You may be right. Would it be worth spending hundreds more dollars to get like 45FPS instead of 30? Lol. That's a good point...

Vengeance1138245d ago (Edited 245d ago )

Can current gen games ALL hit a LOCKED 60 fps? No, very few can. So yes it's needed. 30 FPS games remains the standard even in current gen with these "next gen" machines.

Profchaos244d ago

I feel most can in performance mode

Neonridr244d ago

I doubt even the next machines will hit 60fps locked @ 4K.

Vengeance1138244d ago

Not asking for 4K / 60, but 60 with sub-4K should be the minimum to even justify a Pro console's existence.

Neonridr244d ago

@Vengeance - yeah that would be nice, the bare minimum should be 60fps with upscaling to 4k if it can't hit natively.

Destiny1080245d ago

ps4 pro didn't turn 30fps games into 60fps games

from leaks we know microsoft are due to release something new in 2025 and if that's true, sony will probably match anything that microsoft does

PrimeVinister245d ago

It helped up the rendering resolution and allowed for display of 4K and HDR in quite a few titles though. I think there was a 'turbo' mode that smoothed out games as well. PS4 Pro was a great upgrade, worth it in my opinion.

Pyrofire95244d ago

PS4 Pro was almost entirely just a GPU upgrade. And so many games would need updates to even go beyond their original limit if the PRO did improve the CPU drastically. At the time it was unheard of to make multiple performance skus for consoles so there was rarely games that would just improve without any further work. Meanwhile it's more common now to have 30 or 60 fps limits and dynamic resolutions so a PS5 Pro would have more opportunities for staying at higher frame rates and resolution.
In short the PS5 is in a different position than the PS4 was and that could potentially mean more benefits for a pro console this time around. (can you believe the PS4 pro was promoted as a 4k console without a 4k bluray drive, come on nintendo.)

derek244d ago

Microsoft has explicitly said they're not releasing a pro model. They said the s is their base model. Lol

Joe913244d ago

It is funny you got a disagree you and I are the only ones who actually read about this stuff lol.

GoodGuy09245d ago

They're already struggling with some games. But I suppose that's more of the developers at fault as we can see Sony's first party doing completely fine.

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Helldivers 2 Community United in Welcoming a Returning Player

Should you return to the game? A returning player united the Helldivers 2 community. AH CEO supports the fans' mission for a better patch.

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Saw this coming since the first nerf to the meta. Anyone that had any sense and wasn't a fan boy knew this was gona happen. Knee jerk reaction nerfs to the meta made the game boring.

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Falling Fortnite player count has fans begging for the return of OG mode

Fortnite fans are begging for the return of OG mode while using the player count as proof that fans are not happy with the game's direction.

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Helldivers 2 is the fastest-selling Sony first-party title ever

It's been revealed that Helldivers 2 is Sony's fastest-selling game ever, beating the record previously set by god of War: Ragnarok.

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LG_Fox_Brazil8h ago

250 hours in and I can't get enough

Gameseeker_Frampt2h ago

It's not a first-party game though. Is it really too much to expect these low-rate websites to have the bare minimum of knowledge about the topic that they write about?

This reminds me of the hoops that some diehard Nintendo fans would go through to claim a game (like Bayonetta 2) is first-party just to say Nintendo is pumping out games.

GamingSinceForever2h ago

Sony owns the IP so maybe that will clear things up for you.

SonyStyled2h ago(Edited 1h ago)

It’s a second party title, like Ratchet and Clank prior to the purchase of Insomniac, or like Sly Cooper before the purchase of Sucker Punch, or like Dead Nation before the purchase of Housemarque, etc.

darthv721h ago

Sony published it, they dont own it... not yet anyway.

Giga_Gaia1h ago

@darthv72 Sony owns the Helldivers IP, but they don't own the developer.

CrashMania22m ago(Edited 21m ago)

@darth. Sony absolutey owns the IP.

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VersusDMC57m ago

Just wondering if you don't consider Pokemon, Smash ultimate or Metroid Dread first party because Nintendo doesn't own the studios that made those games...

Deeeeznuuuts1h ago

That's insane! Congratulations Arrowhead! Be good if Sony did buy them, they could work closely with Housmareque and they could both help each other with projects, that'd be good to see

badz1495m ago

Between the original Helldivers (Arrow Head) and Alienation (Housemarque), I prefer the later so much more. Would love to see Alienation going through similar transformation as HD2 for its sequel.

ObscureFacts18m ago

Rookie numbers. Palworld outsold this

ObscureFacts14m ago

Palworld never left!

One of the biggest companies in gaming got outsold by an indie 💀

CrashMania9m ago

Player count does not equal sales, I thought the commercial failure of hifi rush which closed the studio, and it's '3 million players' would have taught you that ;)

ObscureFacts6m ago

How do you play a paid game on Steam without buying it?

ObscureFacts4m ago

Palworld - 15m sales in a month.

CrashMania0m ago

I'll stand corrected on the steam sales. I wonder how much it sold on the rental machine? Also how is palworld relevant anyway? It's a 3rd party timed exclusive which you were always so eager to discount from arguments in the past, which is also arriving on other platforms at some point :)