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Starfield on PC is the best way to play - but the game still requires a lot of work

The Digital Foundry tech review - including those all-important optimised settings.

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Number1TailzFan321d ago

Runs quite well with good enough hardware it seems, but even then I still think it should run a bit better than it does given the hardware thrown at it, but it still doesn't matter as I would get bored and the game doesn't interest me.

MrDead320d ago (Edited 320d ago )

I managed to get Starfield Upscaler working, but it crashes a lot. You will need UpscalerBasePlugin and Starfield Upscaler from Nexus mods, the latest nvngx_dlss.dll file (DLSS 3.5 works on all RTX cards). If you have a 4000 series they also have DLSS-G to enable Frame Generation, different mod though.

This game is horribly optimised for PC, I noticed when I look at glass in this game my FPS tanks, everything runs fine until I have a window appear in frame.

MrDead320d ago

Ok, so this game is only partially optimised on PC, Nvidia and Intel cards and Intel processors are very poorly implemented. Starfield not supporting 85% of the PC card market is unbelievable, like DF said a AAA title should support every major card

dumahim320d ago

Along with better settings. I think Alex was being kind about how bad the options are. I commend Bethesda with launching in so much better shape than they have in the past, but baffled they couldn't manage to include something like an FOV slider or gamma settings.

raWfodog320d ago

Todd said that everyone just needed to update their PC.

just_looken319d ago

I had 3 cashes in 5hours went to steam settings disable the ingame ui pop up steam has

43hrs in now 0 crashes sense i did that

As soon as you use any popup software like msi afterburner or even the windows xbox popup menu the game freaks out and crashes.

Steam did not even need to be engaged just turned on it would crash the game.

TheKingKratos319d ago (Edited 319d ago )

I have RTX3050 8GB and on Ultra with DLSS it run at 50fps on 1440p when other far better graphics run at 80~120fps at the same settings

MrDead319d ago

Sorry, should have said I'm running at 4k.

Flawlessmic320d ago

Tbh the partnership with amd was disappointing and honestly think its part of the reason the game doesn't look particularly great a lot of the time.

I'm running it at 4k ultra settings on my mobile 4080 and fps goes anywhere from the 50s-30s.

If dlss3 and fg were included you bet your ass I'd be more consistently at 60s.

I also thing it's part of the reason there is no ray traced reflections cause amd cards suck at it so bethesda left it out.

This game visually leaves a lot to be desired majority of the time, interiors look quite nice but considering the fps I'm getting and the somewhat lacklustre graphics bethesda can defs improve this game

anast320d ago

If you can't get a game going on that rig, it means someone dropped the optimization ball.

Flawlessmic320d ago

Don't get me wrong the game runs fine even when it dips, its performs a lot better than most PC games at launch, its just considering its not utilizing the latest in graphics technology such as ray tracing and while the metals and interiors look great, plant life and outside textures look pretty ugly it should be performing better than it is.

Unfortunately I'm running Nvidia and a intel I9 CPU both of which seem to be gimped for some reason, not looking at you AMD!!!

anast319d ago

Ah, I see. That's a nice set up though.

MrDead319d ago

I'm running a i9 10900k, rtx3080, I have better frame counts than you but I have a few .ini tweaks and DLSS mod, 4k running with high settings. I have a major dip in frames though when a transparency like a window is in view, my ship for example fps is good until the small windows near your bed are in view or the door to the cockpit, then it dips massively. Or the first mission where you go into the research outpost, just before the end where you open the safe and clime the ladder to the roof there's a big window, the entire area plays nice and smooth until that window is in view, then it's bye, bye fps.

anast319d ago

That's a nice set up too.

repsahj320d ago

Even with 4090 setup todd says upgrade to 5090 to be able to run this game very well.

MrDead320d ago

The frame generation in FSR and RTX doesn't even kick in until frames drop below 30fps!!!

This game is a mess

anast319d ago

Correction you will need the 7090.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH320d ago

The game seems to default to 4k 60 for me on all high settings. I’m running a 4070/ I9 combo

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH319d ago

It’s definitely the truth. Anyone with my setup will verify this.

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10 "Bad" Games I Actually Enjoyed

TNS: "We're shining a light on a bunch of "bad" games that may've been left wanting when it comes to their critical or audience reception."

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Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Good list I've had similar reactions to some games even ones on the list like the order and Callisto

Also I recently grabbed forspoken for, 5 dollars at a eb games Clarence sale and I am actually enjoying it more than I thought I would

Sometimes you just need to give critically panned games a chance

FTLmaster2d ago

Oh gosh, good shout on Forspoken! Genuinely forgot about that one, and haven't got around to playing it. It's on my to-buy-in-a-sale list!

Cacabunga1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Knack was great ! Had a blast with the first one. Haven’t tried the second one though due to backlog

The Fight: Lights Out was also a game i enjoyed very much and highly detailed with great motion control when you understand how they work, which is what pushed people away from this game..

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago

Both The Order and Calisto were harshly treated in my view. I am not saying they are perfect, but the were both really solid games. I personally really liked them despite acknowledging their flaws and coincidentally, got the platinum trophy for both games.

Evil West is another really fun game that's worth checking out for sure.

andy851d 14h ago

Forspoken was great. Never really understood all the criticism. 2nd best traversal in a game after Spiderman

Profchaos1d 8h ago

Yeah gameplay wise I get huge infamous vibes with its combat starting out as low level eventually becoming a unstoppable power spewing killing machine with a wide variety of powers infamous is one of my favourite franchises obviously it's not the same but I love the combat of it so far.

ChasterMies2d ago

I feel like we’re finally starting to see a sea change in how we treat our favorite games. Sure, we all acknowledge that a game can suck and we can still enjoy it. Hopefully this results in meaningful review scores. Personally, I find a lot of bad games are better if you blast through them on the easiest difficulty. Callisto protocol on the image is a good example of this.

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I really liked Calisto, harshly treated for sure and I don't necessarily think it needs to be played on easy to enjoy it. It's not perfect, but it's not the car crash the media portrayed it as either.

I have said it before, but part of the issue is that there is a mind share going on in games coverage, with all the main outfits being personal friends and talking too each other. As such, there is a risk that everyone ends up sharing in the same opinion rather than thinking from themselves. I reckon that's why some games get a universal bashing when consumers actually like the game and equally, games get great reviews across the board and the game doesnt land with consumers.

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Actually, I started liking FO76 after the wastelanders DLC ... it has been my guilty pleasure
other games I can think of Order 1886, Driveclub, Resident Evil 6 (only the Leon part), Alpha Protocol (pretty unique, needs a remake), XIII Remake (after patches), Medal of Honor 2010, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Homefront The Revolution, Enemy Front, Legendary The Box, Faces of War, Conflict: Vietnam, Conflict: Global Storm & Codename: Panzers – Cold War

CosmicTurtle2d ago

Driveclub was genuinely a good game with a poor launch. Alpha Protocol is superb, just a few archaic design choices for the time.

RaidenBlack1d 16h ago

I want past games with interesting setups/mechanics but having some flaws (due to crunch or budget) to be remade so that the gaming community can appreciate and enjoy them as was envisioned and intended by the developers. In contrast to a successful game being remade again just with prettier coat of paint.
Alpha Protocol tops that and I'll include FO:NV as well as an exception (it is popular but features were cut due to limited dev time). And also Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines I, Singularity, KOTOR II and maybe Daikatana.
There might be others which I can't recall atm.

SonyStyled2d ago

I loved Enemy Front. I pre ordered it months prior and remember calling the store to check if it came out that day. The guy never heard of it but confirmed my copy was ready to pick up. Game was simple and basic in a good way. Didn’t have any tacked on extras. A simple mission and objectives in each level. Kind of reminded me of the first Crysis in a way

gold_drake2d ago

The Order was really good. abit short

RiseNShine2d ago

I loved The Order, ridiculous graphics for it's time and a very interesting setting, it was linear but not as bad as people say. Similar thing with Callisto Protocol, i admit that i played it a long time after release so maybe issues were fixed by then, but it was a fantastic Dead Space-like horror game with some of the best graphics i've seen in my life.

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago

Yup, I am afraid to say I waited on Calisto and picked it up for around 30 quid. Once I played it on felt really badly for the devs because the game was really decent.

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Earth Becomes Habitable Again in Starfield, Thanks to this Mod

Thanks to the Starfield Creation Kit, the "Earth Restored" mod has transformed the Earth into a Pine Forest and filled the sea with life.

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Starfield DLC needs to be as awe-inspiring as Shadow of the Erdtree to win players back

Shadow of the Erdtree saw a 1000% player count surge at its launch. Will Starfield’s Shattered Space be able to do the same?

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Brazz14d ago

Spoiler... It Will not. Bethesda is outdated.

anast14d ago

If it gets rid of the loading screens and adds space exploration, it will.

phoenixwing14d ago

loading screens and zones are hardboiled into the game, they would have to remake it to change it. which if they had just made a new engine or used someone else's they wouldn't be in this mess

purple10114d ago

only PSpro release will get rid of there loading, at at minimum, half the time it takes.

lucian22914d ago

nah cuz game has multiple things that have to happen before transition to outer space; issue is it isnt seamless

BoneMagnus14d ago

I played Starfield this past weekend. I enjoyed it and overall was about 30 hours in, but as soon as I got the e-mail about the GamePass price increase, I cancelled my account and deleted Starfield, Halo, Forza and others off my Series X.

If I want to play those games, I’ll just buy them outright - and truth is, I’m pretty sure I won’t. They aren’t worth it to me.

Ninver14d ago

Brutal truth. Thanks gor being honest.

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