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U.S. federal Judge Corley finally rules on Microsoft's Xbox-ABK deal: Microsoft Wins

We finally know Judge Corley's decision on the FTC's attempt to block Microsoft's big Xbox-ABK deal.

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AngainorG7X704d ago

But but, I thought the deal was dead 🤣

raWfodog704d ago

As I stated in an earlier post, I didn't think that FTC did enough to prove their case. They focused too much on airing dirty laundry than trying to prove a monopolistic outcome. I still think that this will hold back future Activision games innovation moving forward simply because MS insists that games on the X and S have feature parity. The S has a serious memory bottleneck that will force developers to cut back on features.

Sciurus_vulgaris704d ago

The FTC didn't focus on how the deal would harm consumers.

maniacmayhem704d ago

The FTC didn't do any of that because they had nothing to begin with.

It was pretty apparent (and suspicious) when every other country was approving the deal except for the two western counterparts.

This deal won't harm consumers and won't hold back games. Enough with the cap. There hasn't been an Activision game yet that has been held back and the S has been out for how long now?

darthv72704d ago

Queue sponge bob and patrick... HOORAY!!!

n1kki6704d ago

The series S requirement is there regardless of who owns ABK. It's not only about the consoles, but gamers can't see past the logo on their plastic box. MS isn't paying 70B for activision. They are paying 70B for activision blizzard king. King being the brand that drives most of the profit among all three.

Lightning77704d ago

"The S has a serious memory bottleneck that will force developers to cut back on features."

Name an example where the S held back on features on PS5? Or held back PS5 in many major way?

TripleAAARating704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Ok Sony the gloves are off, the game's changed, MS opened Pandora's .....retaliation time, let's go get Capcom, Square Enix and Take-Two/R* 👀 .... GTA6 PS5 exclusive! 😱

UltraNova704d ago

Finally, can we move on now? The ball is in Sony's court now, if they are worried about COD's future on PS then they better get to work and create something to compete against it.

raWfodog704d ago

@Lightning77
My comment specifically mentioned 'future' games.

The truth is we won't ever know if this prevented features on current or past games unless developers stepped up and mentioned that. But it is not difficult to imagine especially if you look at the current issue with the Series S version Baldur's Gate 3. We all know the specifics there so I won't rehash it here. Many other devs would have probably not went ahead with their release on PS5 simply because the Series S was the hold up.

And you're assuming that my comment was just focusing on PS5 releases (which it wasn't at all). I was referring to parity between the X and S. If you can't acknowledge that the S is holding back great games being developed for the X's capabilities (specifically because of MS's parity clause), then we can't even begin to have a proper debate about future game development.

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dcbronco704d ago

Sciurus, you can't disgust something that doesn't exist. Even if Microsoft taking CoD exclusive it can't be considered a problem unless Sony wants to stop all of its exclusivity deals.

fr0sty704d ago

The feature parity thing was already an issue, because all third party games that released on xbox have to abide by it.

Notellin704d ago

Hold back Activision innovation? They haven't done anything remotely innovative in years.

DashMad704d ago

What bottleneck when 80% of PCgamer still games on spec bellow RTX 3060 ? Activision wouldn't dare making COD game RTX 3060 minimum spec that suicide for GAAS game when competition like apex legend, fornite, etc have spec bellow that. a single player AAA would be fine but not COD lol.

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Flawlessmic704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

We will see if it closes, still got the cma to deal with.

Would prefer it didn't go through more so due to no one likes the rich kid buying there way to the top and then bragging about it, while the others had to put in decades of work creating ips and delivering for there fans.

I respect how Sony's done it year over year creating there own big ips as apposed to buying others and then stealing them away from millions of gamers like what happened with bethesda.

In saying that though, If I get all activisions and blizzards games on gamepass then hey I just saved a ton of money.

If basically everything doesn't come on gamepass including wow then this isn't a win if we're still paying for it all like we did before so I'd still be cautious about celebrating to much.

Once deal is done and we get confirmation everything is on gp then I'll be happy.

Flawlessmic704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

It's not hard to understand, if your in the xbox gp ecosystem then the deal going through is fantastic as following MS history, all first party exclusives should be on gp day 1.

Which should mean we get everything from acti and blizzard day 1.

If that doesn't happen then why exactly are we happy about the deal?

Unless your confused at the fact I care more about gaming then I do my own pockets, hence even as someone that has an xbox, I'm not exactly thrilled at the deal going through however if it does I won't say no to the benefits

raWfodog704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

@flawlessmic

Made sense to me lol.

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people championing the ABK purchase expect to get the lion's share of the ABK portfolio on Gamepass.

Flawlessmic704d ago

@ crimson

It's a done deal then!

Hope this is all finalised soon then and I get to find out what will be coming to gp.

Spewing I just bought diablo 4 a few days ago lol

Ahhh well, ill be curious to see what Sony does from here, surely they make a move.

Montrealien704d ago

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the potential Microsoft acquisition of Activision Blizzard. While I understand your concerns, it's important to examine the arguments you've presented and consider their substance.

Firstly, you mentioned the involvement of the CMA (Competition and Markets Authority) in the deal. It is true that regulatory bodies may scrutinize such large-scale acquisitions to ensure fair competition and consumer protection. However, it's essential to separate the legal considerations from the subjective preferences you express later in your comment.

Next, you expressed a preference for companies like Sony that create their own IPs (intellectual properties) rather than buying others. While it's commendable to appreciate companies' creative efforts in developing their own IPs, it's worth noting that acquisitions are a common practice in the business world. Companies have different strategies for growth, and acquisitions can provide them with valuable assets and expertise. It's not inherently wrong for a company to acquire another if it aligns with their business goals.

Furthermore, you mentioned the acquisition of Bethesda by Microsoft, implying that it somehow took away games from millions of gamers. It's important to clarify that while Microsoft acquired Bethesda, they did not remove existing games from other platforms. Instead, they expanded their portfolio and provided gamers with additional options and opportunities, such as making Bethesda games available on Xbox Game Pass. This move enhanced accessibility and affordability for many players.

Regarding your desire for all Activision Blizzard games to be included in Game Pass, it's worth acknowledging that specific decisions regarding the availability of games on platforms are determined by various factors, including licensing agreements, partnerships, and business strategies. While it would be convenient for consumers if all games were included, it's crucial to consider the complexities involved in such arrangements.

In summary, while your concerns are valid, it's important to approach the topic with an understanding of the broader business landscape. Acquisitions and partnerships are common in the industry, and they can bring benefits to both companies involved and the consumers. It's essential to evaluate the impact of such deals based on their actual outcomes rather than assumptions. Let's wait for the deal's completion and official announcements to assess its implications fully.

Thank you for sharing your perspective, and I hope this response helps provide a more nuanced view of the situation.

shinoff2183704d ago

Montrealien

They certainly did take bethesada games away from ps, redfall being an example. Time frame wise redfall being canned for ps5 definitely means starfield was also canned for ps5. So that's exactly what they did.

Flawlessmic704d ago

@montrealian

Firstly, respect dude 👏

I'm kinda aware of all that though and im looking at this strictly from a gamers perspective.

As a gamer the business part of it while I get it, I don't care for it.

But yes from your side your 100% spot on

1Victor704d ago

@crimsom:” Looks like the CMA caved.”

Did you read your own link?
From article: “In the wake of today's FTC court decision, Microsoft and the UK's Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) have both agreed to pause their legal battle over Activision Blizzard. The two parties feel that it is in the public interest to halt court proceedings and allow Xbox to provide fresh proposals over the deal.”

Nowhere in there said they caved in 🤦🏿

Lightning77704d ago

"I respect how Sony's done it year over year creating there own big ips as apposed to buying others and then stealing them away from millions of gamers like what happened with bethesda."

That's false. When Sony entered the buissness they bought their way into the industry. I know Xbox isn't a new start up company themselves they should of bought Bethesda and everyone else over 20 years ago (maybe people would complain less) but you also gotta remember Sony was still buying studios mid 2000's early 2010's also while Xbox was doing almost nothing on their part to grow first party except buying Rare.

It's funny how ppl think When Sony entered the industry built AAA's studios across the globe from the ground up which would take years easily a decade plus when that's simply not true at all. The only company that has in house organic growth is Nintendo. Releasing the same Ip's every generation. Nintendo is the only one who bought barely a handful of studios through out its life time.

neomahi704d ago

"The rich kid buying their way to the top". It doesn't matter what kind of gamer you are or what side of the fence you're on. It's true that various sources and a variety contribute to the evolution of the hobby and when Xbox came on seen back in 2002 it was interesting to see the newcomer and they did okay. The Xbox 360 disrupted things for Sony. I don't see the PS3 failure that majority of people see. The PS3 was a powerhouse and it lasted 10 years, compared to previous consoles short lifespans, it found ways to evolve. But the Xbox 360 still caused Sony to think and do things differently. Both companies decided to shy away from custom made hardware and go with off the shelf components making their game consoles even more like PC's bluring the line between consoles and PC's, it pushed Sony to do and be better, like the Xbox One should've done. I get what Microsoft was trying to do with Xbox One but it was exactly what Xbox has always tried to do with consumers, throw whatever they can at the wall to see what sticks to give Bill Gates the most power they can, its all about staying in favor with him and not tarnishing his name, at whatever cost to feed his ego. But this isn't about what's best for the consumer, its about WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS. WE'VE MADE SO MANY POOR DECISIONS AND SABOTAGED ALL THE RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE AND WE'RE ABOUT TO DIE. WE DON'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER FOR THE CONSUMER AND DEEPING INTO DEEP POCKETS OF MONEY WE'VE NEVER HAD IS ALL WE HAVE LEFT. Xbox has never been able to really be profitable. Since the Red Ring of Death Crisis, Xbox has always had to go to big papa Microsoft to ask for money for a bailout all because Microsoft was afraid they were going to lose the livingroom of windows to game consoles

OG_TK_Cole704d ago

The CMA just folded @Flawlessmic They just put out a statement saying they are coming back to the table to work it out with Microsoft. They also said it to the appeals Tribunal at the CMA.

Its pretty much over Fam

DigitalDaniel704d ago

How do you think Sony got the ball rolling? By buying one of the largest publishers at the time, Psygnosis who in the mid 90's accounted for 40% (!) of all videogames sold in Europe. Sony didn't crawl out of the slums, selling homemade games and hardware out of their garage. They leveraged their money earned on walkman, discman, TV's, movies and music. And then they went for a huge publisher. And after that they've bought more than half of their studios and spent a fortune on exclusive third-party deals to further cement their position.

Which is all fair play and legal. It's good business. But don't act like they didn't do it. It's well documented.

COS704d ago

Understand your point about the rich kid, but who doesn't want competition, do you think gaming will only get better if Sony is the only player. Competition should help keep price in check and make both companies try harder. People are not going to flock to MS because they bought Activision. MS is more concerned with mobile gaming with this acquisition.

dcbronco704d ago

You're delusional with your ideas of Sony doing everything in house.

maniacmayhem704d ago

@lightning

Also, people forget that one of the biggest reasons Sony entered the gaming business was out of pure spite and revenge against Nintendo.

They did everything possible (and right) to dethrone Nintendo to the point to where now Nintendo doesn't even compete in the HD console space.

fr0sty704d ago

Look at what has happened to every other dev microsoft has bought... *cough* Rare *cough*... they will run these devs into the dirt and their competition will come out on top anyway.

Extermin8or3_704d ago

This "hey I saved a tonne of money" attitude is dangerous though cos those games still cost as much to make, they still need that investment. They just now bring in much smaller or no return. That will have an impact on their budgets and thus the quality of the games and the nunber of developers who will have jobs working on stuff.

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Abriael704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

The deal isn't dead, but unfortunately, this isn't the end of this whole cluster*uck. I wish it was because I'm honestly sick of the whole thing haha. There's gonna be appeals, further rulings, and more dirty laundry hung in public. Meh.

People may think of this as a win for Microsoft and a loss for Sony (for now), but I see it as a win for the gaming industry and a loss for politicians and bureaucrats.

We've all seen the honestly asinine arguments brought by both the FTC and the CMA in this case. I'm fairly sure even many Sony fans rolled their eyes at some of them even if they may not want to admit it. As a PC gamer who doesn't lean in any console direction, I certainly rolled my eyes all the way back into my skull way too many times.

Personally, I'd much rather the gaming industry decide what happens in the gaming industry, not bureaucrats who have proven beyond any doubt that they have absolutely zero expertise on the subject matter. You're not going to hire a truck driver to drive an Airbus A350, and both the FTC and the CMA have proven with their inane arguments that they're truck drivers, and bad ones at that.

I promise you the FTC doesn't care about Sony. They don't care about gamers, and they don't care about gaming. They don't even really care about healthy competition. All they care about is a militant crusade against big tech that has been a pretty much explicit mission for Lina Khan. They're simply trying to take advantage of gaming to achieve their political purpose. Nothing more. Nothing less.

If the FTC/CMA manage to come up on top in the end (which I doubt, but you never know), some may rejoice, but it'd come back to bite us all in the ass in the long run.

kindi_boy704d ago

WOW can’t believe am reading common sense on here… great 👍 hope established

ArmrdChaos704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Jim Ryan will take the fall for this one. His email history argued against his own claims. He also went and poked the bear one too many times. All companies have their exclusive deals here and there, but Jim Ryan decided to get cute and try to buy exclusivity for Star Field. MS had enough, gave him the middle finger as they bought the company, and made it a console exclusive for MS. Had he not done that it would have been interesting to see if MS would have still bought them or someone else. Take solice in the fact at least it will be coming to PC day one, so all the Sony people that claim to have their gaming rigs will still get to play it. If Sony had bought the rights, it would have been a year+....if at all....for anyone else to play it on PC. So who really is anti-consumer here?

fr0sty704d ago

Consolidation into monopoly is never a win for any industry.

Abriael704d ago

@fr0sty: "monopoly" doesn't mean what you think it means.
If you think this is even close to "monopoly" your idea of it must come from the board game.

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EvertonFC704d ago

Quote: The $68.7 billion deal needs approval in three key markets before it can go through: the US, the UK and the EU"

itsmebryan704d ago

This is great news . Now I hear the CMA want to negotiate with Microsoft. Lol

I wonder if they will get SEGA next? 🤔

Flenter704d ago

Next? There is no next. Don't you think its enough already?

stonecold3704d ago

Can’t buy Japanese developers also sega have stated they are not up to sale .

1Victor704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

@ang:” But but, I thought the deal was dead 🤣”

1 word “APPEALS” 🤣 they can stall it for years in courts
For those that don’t know there’s still the appeal to the X circuit then the Supreme Court so don’t hold your breath yet till you see a Supreme Court approval of the deal

CrimsonWing69704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

I'm just replying to you about the "CMA caved" here since I don't even know how to reply to you in the above thread and, I mean this with all due respect, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

The link I sent absolutely shows a shift in the CMAs position as a result of the FTC's ruling. This is absolutely a "caving" where they paused their position and are now willing to do negotiations.

The funny thing in this is the deal can absolutely 100% go through without the CMA's approval. The big ones were the EU (which they reversed their position) and now the US, which Microsoft literally got the preliminary injunction removed to go forward with the deal.

I think the play here was the CMA and FTC join forces to stop this, but once the FTC lost, the CMA quickly put a pause on their stance and now want to discuss proposals or negotiate.

I know, I know, it's tough to understand things when you're all hyped up on the fanboy energy and think you know what you're talking about when you don't... but I'm cool discussing further with you if you want. I don't know if we really need to go all emojis in the discussion, but if that makes it easier for you, I'm game.

Lightning77704d ago

Murphy's Law I thought it was gonna get blocked. Even if 90% was actually in MS favor but I suppose the numbers don't lie.

Abracadabra704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Not surprising this result.
The FTC was more worried about Sony then actual consumers. Even the judge called out the FTC about their insistence on defending Sony.

UltraNova704d ago

No, they leaned on Sony to help them with their case against MS because they didn't have the slightest clue about gaming and how to convince the court how this deal would affect consumers.

Extermin8or3_703d ago

I mean that remark by the judge was telling but also fucking nonsense. It matters how the deal effects Sony because they are microsofts main competitor and they have tens of millions of customers who may now be at a disadvantage or find gsmes don't launch that they woukd have expected to launch on their console. The judge also made the remark "doesn't everyone own a pc wirth 1.5k or more that can therefore play videogames"? Well that should say it all imo.

OptimusDK703d ago

@extermin.. we have all ways heard that the MS games where not real exclusives because every PS console guy had a PC where they could play it on.

outsider1624704d ago

Dead or alive...finally its over!! Time to move on

frostypants704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

You realize the antitrust suit is still happening regardless, right? Judging by the comments almost no one does. This decision only effects delaying things in the meantime. The FTC could also still appeal this (the judge had a massive conflict of interest and arguably should have recused herself), but regardless, this isn't over. People need to read harder.

Wrex369704d ago

I dont log in here often because its one sided upvote echo chamber but:

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senorfartcushion703d ago

Why is this a good thing? Restricting games for anyone is bad.

Same goes for EVERY exclusive.

Rynxie703d ago

Yeah, a judge who's son works for MS, rules in MS favor. Who'd be surprised?

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neutralgamer1992704d ago

I am just glad it’s over, move on time to see how Sony will retaliate. I still believe they will buy capcom and square Enix. It honestly would not surprise me if there is some sort of acquisition news coming from Sony very soon

The only reason I say that is because I believe there’s a lot of news about acquisitions on hold until this one was decided so now that a decision has been made, we will see business start to pick up

Asplundh704d ago

It's not over yet, this was just a attempt to temporary block the deal. It's a win for Microsoft but they haven't sealed the deal in the US yet. You still have another month of having to hear about it.

Sonic1881704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

"The judge’s ruling now allows Microsoft to close its Activision Blizzard deal ahead of the July 18th deadline, but only if the company is willing to close around the UK or if the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) is willing to negotiate some form of remedy."

I'm curious to see what's going to happen with the UK market. Will Microsoft stop selling Xbox there 🤔 because I don't see the CMA agreeing with the negotiations. They would have done that already. I guess Microsoft can leave them out and just move on

theindiearmy704d ago

@Sonic they don't have to stop selling Xbox there. Essentially they would have to "remove" Activision operations from the country. Meaning move the studios and run games sales through a distributor. Once Activision is "removed" from the country, then there is no need to merge them within the country.

Gamerscore2077704d ago

Unfortunately, you’re right. As always, I’ve been against this deal since the beginning. There’s nothing good from any of the big three publishers buying out entire third party publishers & locking down well known established IPs to only their ecosystem.

I’m not sure why anyone want to see titles like COD, Diablo, Doom, etc lock to only to the Xbox & PC. I know the devs don’t, because they’re about to see a huge chunk of their fanbase & profits cut significantly by being only available to those platforms, not to mention they most likely will be available on Gamepass.

In any case, MS has now force Sony to do the same thing now. So no one should be surprised if Sony buys out EA or T2, or SE, or Capcom.

This sucks, third party publishers should stay third party publishers. That’s the real consumer choice that MS is claiming that they’re doing.

LightofDarkness704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Yeah, this consolidation of IP has absolutely wrecked Star Wars and Marvel. It’s not a positive outcome by any observable metric for consumers.

senorfartcushion703d ago

It’s because it surrounds American companies.

Americans seem to want to become a country oppressed like in a Cyberpunk future.

I’m surprised that there is a writer’s strike going on over there - really.

ChasterMies704d ago

“time to see how Sony will retaliate”

It’s not about retaliation. It’s about survival. And it’s not just Sony that needs to survive. We still in the early days of the gaming mega mergers. Lots developers you know and love will be absorbed into giant corporations that are focused on quarterly profits and are ok with releasing games that are good enough.

cammers1995704d ago

Sony I could see buying Capcom. Resident evil and devil may cry have always been staples of playstation.

crazyCoconuts703d ago

I don't see how people aren't grasping the unprecedented size of this acquisition on the heals of their last unprecedented acquisition.
Sony CAN'T retaliate in kind because it didn't have daddy MS$$ footing the bill.

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Bobertt704d ago

Honestly this just shows how corrupt the United States Government has become. The Judge had a clear conflict of interest because her son literally works for Microsoft but she was put in charge of the case.

richardmmorales704d ago

The FTC had no objections about this when the case started. The FTC's whole case was built around the hypocritical complaints made by Sony. Yet it was statements by Sony people that derailed the whole argument in this case when it came to testifying in court. If anyone is corrupt it's the FTC. The Chairwoman of the FTC is even being investigated by Congress. and she could be hold in contempt because she's refusing to provide documents they are asking for. The FTC has had a very horrible track record when it comes to cases. Also from the looks of it. It looked like the FTC and CMA were working with each other. Look how quickly the CMA has decided to back track now that this judgement/case has ended.

KicksnSnares704d ago

Finally! COD on game pass day one

PunksOnN4G704d ago

CODs not ever coming to gamepass LOL how many times do they have to tell u this in the hearing?

KicksnSnares704d ago

It's ok my dude. COD will still be on PS

Armyntt704d ago

It will come to gamepass in the US, it was the UK that wanted to stop it until 2025.

343_Guilty_Spark704d ago

New ones probably not but all the old ones is wide open.

Haki1112704d ago

Cope harder. They said COD will stay on playstaton never said it won't come to gamepass. That's the main reason for this whole merger.

PapaBop704d ago

^^^ Maybe not with COD with Blizzard have said Diablo 4 won't be coming to game pass. That will likely change still, probably saying it now as I'm sure there are a fair few people holding out buying it thinking it will come to game pass in a few months.

Christopher704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Pretty sure if they buy Activision it's CoD on GamePass Day whenever they want. They offered the same deal to Sony and they declined. And CMA's filings didn't have an issue with that but the potential issues with cloud streaming. I'll have to look it up to make sure, but not sure their old offer holds up under these new concessions since it's not about anti-competition between Xbox and PSN.

caffman704d ago

All microsoft studio games come to gamepass day 1. So COD day 1 whilst still being sold on PS5 is absolutely a possibility.

richardmmorales704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

They didn't say COD was never coming to gamepass. they said Activision had no plans to put the games on Gamepass. That's part of Microsoft's and FTC's argument. That COD would be on Gamepass without the merger. But Activision said they had no plans to put it on Gamepass. While Microsoft says they do have plans.

Wrex369704d ago

You are delusional. GP and it releasing at all on Sony and Nintendo are completely different

Gunstar75703d ago

I didn't hear that once....

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ChasterMies704d ago

Because you can’t buy Call of Duty now? Funny thing is, for the price difference between Game Pass Ultimate and PS+ Extra, you could buy a Call of Duty and a couple of season passes.

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