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Fallout creator Tim Cain is concerned about Fallout 5

Fallout creator Tim Cain has voiced concerns about Bethesda's current trajectory with the modern Fallout games, says he is worried about Fallout 5.

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shinoff2183717d ago

I think bethesada goes back to the way I was for fallout 5. Fallout 4 was an extremely fun game imo but it felt really dumbed down. Can't wait for 5

kythlyn716d ago

At the rate Bethesda is publishing their main single player RPGs, Fallout 5 won't be out 'til 2033, and that's if we're lucky.

babadivad716d ago

Same way I felt with Skyrim. Way too dumbed down. I knew they messed up when they made Death Claws fodder.

You kill a 15 foot Death Claw at level 3 in Fallout 4. They just made the most terrifying enemy a pushover.

Death Claws were properly terrifying in New Vega. Didn't matter what level you were on.

Deeeeznuuuts716d ago

Totally agree, I was expecting to die and then perhaps a cut scene but nope

cammers1995717d ago

We need a new Vegas 2. Fallout under Bethesda just feels weird. 3, 4 and 76 follow their own east coast plot and feels out of place even all these years later. New Vegas was the last real fallout.

DarXyde717d ago (Edited 717d ago )

I think Bethesda misunderstood a lot of the original vision of Fallout (e.g., retrofuturism and the whole point behind bottle caps as currency). I'm not a fallout player, I just watched vids of the earlier games and the new ones in an attempt to get interested in it, so take my word with skepticism.

But yeah. They've made it into their own product now and it could just be that Cain would have done things differently. But it's not like they're pumping them out. You get one numbered game per generation, so I think it's fair to say there's going to be some thoughtfulness before you see Fallout 5. As long as there's no rush, which I think Starfield buys them a healthy amount of time.

VenomUK717d ago

@DarXyde “I think Bethesda misunderstood a lot of the original vision of Fallout (e.g., retrofuturism and the whole point behind bottle caps as currency).” A genuine question, what was the original vision and point of retrofuturism?

I’ve played Fallout 3 & 4, and judging from the narrated intro “War… never ends” and multiple scorched copies of the book Paradise Lost, I thought the meaning is straight forward comment about humanity ruining the world - and some DLC messaging about how when people are united they can be a strong force for good.

The retrofuturism I took at face value as a stylistic choice that contrasts the gritty post-apocalyptic world with the cheery optimism of the fifties.

DarXyde716d ago

VenomUK,

Sure, no worries. I'll try to explain what I mean. Retrofuturism would be like what we think the future would look like from today. Good example of that would be something like The Jetsons, where people in the past/present imagine what the future would be like (in that case, it was 2062 which was a century after the series premiered).

I had to double-check, but the first Fallout apparently took place in 2161, following a nuclear war in 2077. The way the world was actually seemed like "the future, according to someone in the 1950s". When Bethesda took over, this was continued, but it slowly integrated the 60s/70s aesthetics. It gets weird and confusing by the time you get to Fallout 76, which actually predates Fallout 1. For some reason, this game has a 70s aesthetic, despite being closer to the Great War... So... Did everything regress, or is Bethesda just moving forward in the decades with every iteration?

Maybe it's intentional, but it seems like they didn't really get it.

JackBNimble716d ago

Vegas was the fallout that I just couldn't get into ... obviously that's just my opinion.

GhostScholar717d ago

I’m so tired of hearing “make new Vegas 2”. Not every movie or game needs a sequel. Just do something new! Use creativity and not nostalgia for once.

OhReginald717d ago

True, the vegas lore of the fallout universe has been explored. It's better to visit other cities.....like Chicago or Miami.

GhostScholar717d ago (Edited 717d ago )

I’d love New York City, London, or Tokyo. I doubt they’d leave the states though.

-Foxtrot717d ago

When people say “New Vegas 2” they just mean a spiritual sequel

A new location…that’s all

GhostScholar717d ago

I know a lot of people and have read articles about what the fans want it a lot of them really mean new Vegas 2 literally.

MontyeKristo716d ago

Do they though? I'd still be okay with New Vegas 2 being in Vegas.. just be more in-depth, add the Grand Canyon, maybe even another nearby city.

k2d714d ago (Edited 714d ago )

It's just a monicker, instead of, say, Obsidian Fallout.

-Foxtrot717d ago (Edited 717d ago )

Yeah Bethesda have really started to simplify their RPG games

They took so much stuff out of Skyrim compared to Oblivion and Fallout 4 was so dumbed down compared to Fallout 3. I enjoyed them but you can’t deny that they want to become more accessible.

When I was younger I had to restart and go through the sewer tutorial level of Oblivion like 6 times or something because I never nailed down my character correctly. It took time but I got there and I learned from it.

Muadiib716d ago

Agreed, loved Oblivion and FO3, found Skyrim and FO4 to be tedious. That's why I'm not allowing myself to get too excited for Starfield.

shinoff2183716d ago

Thas pretty much exactly what I was talking about. Fallout was pretty accessible to begin with well the bethesada ones, idk why they dumbed down 4 so much

mastershredder716d ago

Yeah. Kinda moot eh? Maybe don’t sell your creations if want creative control.

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Bethesda Is Taking Playable Ghouls "Into Consideration" For Fallout 5

We all owe Fallout 76 an irradiated beer or two.

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-Foxtrot293d ago

Wouldn’t that change a lot gameplay wise

I mean it’s cool don’t get me wrong but what about Rad infested areas and the like, would Ghouls be able to walk through without a care in the world

Name Last Name293d ago

Basically starting with the rad perk. Just like Skyrim Lizards could breathe underwater.

Gameseeker_Frampt293d ago

I imagine it would be handled similar to the way vampirism is done in Skyrim. The downside of be able to walk through Rad infested areas without a care in the world would be the constant threat of becoming a feral ghoul.

anast293d ago

The games is going to be bad, like Starfield levels bad.

RaidenBlack292d ago

the game's not even in pre-production yet

anast292d ago

When I'm right, you can let me know.

Sciurus_vulgaris293d ago (Edited 293d ago )

I good see the following pros and cons of playing as a ghoul.
pros :
1. Regeneration
2. Radiation immunity

cons:
1. Low charisma and bartering
2. Some NPCs will shoot a ghoul on sight, thus altering guests.
3. Potentially become a glowing ghoul. You emit radiation that can harm your companions but you are empowered by radiation. NPCs that tolerant ghouls may now not tolerant you.

dmonee293d ago

Its about time. They let you choose different classes in elder scrolls, why not fallout?

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Fallout 5 -10 Ways It Should Improve on Fallout 4

It may be years away, but whenever it arrives, Fallout 5 needs to improve on its predecessor in several areas.

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They really need to get rid of weapon mods and bring back more unique weapons that are hard to get / find

anast406d ago

They won't improve it other than a slight graphical upgrade. They have always been better at live action than making games.

MocBistro406d ago

Only way it could improve is taking it away from Bethesda and regroup Classic Fallout (1&2) devs with decent budget and time to make it.

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Fallout 5 Might Be Here Sooner Than We Thought at Microsoft's Behest

Following the success of the TV show, Microsoft is reportedly in talks to fast-track Fallout 5 with the help of a studio other than Bethesda.

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MrBaskerville412d ago (Edited 412d ago )

If they start now, we can have it as early as in 2031!

redknight80412d ago

Heck yeah, we can have a teaser trailer in 2031!? I am so excited already!!

Hedstrom412d ago

Yea, the teaser 2031 for the trailer 2035 is going to be awesome!

DOMination-412d ago

haha was about to say the same thing.

All these articles about a new Fallout are pointless right now. A game of that scope will likely be 1 year pre-production and 4 years development MINIMUM and that's if they start on it tomorrow. Lets talk about it again in four years time when it's officially announced, not when they're still working out who may develop the bloody thing.

Kaii412d ago

Yeah, allow the studio that hasn't slam dunked any games In recent memory to "fast track" the next Fallout game.

redknight80412d ago

What could possibly go wrong!

jeromeface412d ago (Edited 412d ago )

Good, microsoft should look at their IP's with value and protect them from devs like bethesda after disasters like Starfield. Everyone would lose their minds if obsidian was able to make another fallout even though the new vegas team is long gone. .

Hereandthere412d ago

Lol, still port begging for hell divers 2.

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