Avowed Isn't In Alpha Yet, Graphics Will Be "Refined"

Don't be too worried about Avowed's graphics.

[Magog]

That's what they said about Craig. He still looked basically the same at launch.

[just_looken]

Ah no that was a early build in alpha this is suppose to be not even there yet so in this case everything we saw on arrowed could be changed or thrown out.

This is more like that anthem e3 trailer.

[Magog]

Makes sense. I've heard the way games are made is that they first make an entire set of assets for the trailer then they throw those out and remake the game from scratch in a year after getting player feedback.

[just_looken]

@mag

Back in the day they did that like the killzone 2 trailer

But today you never know so many games were just tossed out half done or rushed out.

[RpgSama]

@Just_Looken

LOL, You had to go all the way back to the launch of the PS3 in 2005 for that? LOLOLOLOL.

[MadLad]

@rpgsama

I mean, Killzone 2 really was the poster child for the "bullshot" all the way back then.

[MadLad]

So far

1 like.
8 dislikes
No rebuttal on explaining to me on how what I said is inaccurate in any way.

Wonder why I still keep saying that the voting system is pointless; pushes less conversation and more hive-minding. Fit in or get out lol.

[King_Noctis]

Different studios. Obsidian is a veteran studio unlike 343.

[Magog]

Obsidian has multiple teams and this one is clearly out of it's depth.

[MadLad]

@magog

Based on the fact you don't like the visual style they went with?
Obsidian has a pretty solid record of making great games.

The closest thing to "bad" releases from them were Dungeon Siege 3 and Alpha Protocol, which now hold cult classic status for people because they actually tried doing very interesting things with those games and they were still fun. But, c'mon, Neverwinter Nights 2, Kotor 2, New Vegas, South Park, Pillars of Eternity, Outer Worlds, Grounded, Pentiment. They've been pretty damn consistent since their inception. So I'm not sure which nameless team of theirs are "clearly out of their depth" because, by most metrics, Obsidian puts out quality consistently. So this random team must have not worked on anything yet and was just handed the biggest release for the studio since New Vegas because the higher ups simply wanted to fail not only a big new IP for them, but also tarnish what they've done with Pillars of Eternity and its world.

[InUrFoxHole]

Lol let the guy be... He's trying a new line today. Out of their depth.... 🤣 🤣 🤣. You're basing this on you not digging the style?

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I disagree, Craig got quite the glow-up.
https://www.gameinformer.co...

[Magog]

They slapped a Mohawk on it and used a bullshot with overly dramatic lighting you won't see on the game.

[Obscure_Observer]

Pretty sure Awowed will look amazing on release.

It´s a true next gen AAA RPG game powered by UE5, I have faith in Obsidian to deliver something truly marvelous.

[purple101]

So still another 3 years to wait then

[Lightning77]

It's releasing in 2024....

[luckytrouble]

A AAA game that is still pre-alpha is not releasing after only a year of development lmao

[--Onilink--]

@lucky
Pre-alpha doesn’t mean its not in development….

Even the simple term alpha is just a milestone OF DEVELOPMENT that they choose when it reaches. Same with Beta and Gold, they are not arbitrary numbers to signal how many years it has or has left, they are points in time a developer reachers a specific target that they had

[Crows90]

Where'd they confirm that? Or is that just the release window? Which of course they never change those. lol
I am hoping for that release date though. Obsidian has always made great games.

[Inverno]

If that wasn't even alpha then why show it?

[RupeeHoarder]

desperate for game reels. Something Sony has been avoiding lately.

[__SteakDeck__]

@RupeeHoarder Yeah MS is desperate to show people that they have games now. Phil Spencer did the opposite of what he said in 2017. “ We don’t want to show a trailer for things that are 2-3 years away”. https://www.dualshockers.co... They have been showing games too early since 2019, when they showed Hellblade. Then they did it again in 2020, when they showed CGI trailers of Fable, Avowed, and SOD3. Sony doesn’t have to do this, because they’ve earned the public’s trust of consistently releasing great AAA games over the past decade. So Sony can afford to be more patient.

[MadLad]

@steakdeck

I judge people/companies on the what they're doing in the here and now.
I'm excited for a lot of the games I know is coming from Microsoft Game Studios.

I'm waiting to see what Sony looks like going forward, knowing that they're now focusing more of their workforce and overall development budget towards live service titles than the ones that made people trust Sony in the first place.

[Cockney]

@madlad "I judge people/companies on the what they're doing in the here and now.
I'm excited for a lot of the games I know is coming from Microsoft Game Studios"

[__SteakDeck__]

@MadLad “knowing that they're now focusing more of their workforce and overall development budget towards live service titles than the ones that made people trust Sony in the first place”. That’s a lie! Yes Sony is focusing on Live service, but most of their workforce is not going towards that. Sony has many single player games in development through 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party partnership. They just haven’t revealed them yet.

[MadLad]

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Double post

[MadLad]

@cockney

Yeah. I'm interested in a number of the titles that Microsoft are known to be working on. I guess I should throw that to the side and just get excited for a small few of the things that Sony is working on, then pray I love each and every live service title that Sony is working on; spending 60% of their overall budget for games that typically nickel and dime you just to enjoy.
Naughty Dog can't even successfully meet the greedy standards of both Bungie and Sony, apparently, to actually bring to market a rehashing of a multiplayer mode of a game that came out during the PS3 days.

@steakdeck

Me - "They're focusing the majority of their people and budget to live service"

You - "That's a lie ... but also they're focusing on live service".

Do I need to explain here lol? They are focusing the majority of their budget to live service games. The vast majority of their development budget goes to funding the development teams, and then the marketing for them.
If only 40% of your budget is being used for things outside of live service development and costs, that means 40% of your budget is being used towards anything that isn't a live service. That literally means there has to be more people working on these live services than not, and more of the marketing budget is being used for these type of games than not.

[King_Noctis]

Why wouldn’t they show it? The game was announced years ago.

[FlavorLav01]

Precisely, yet why is the game still in a pre-alpha state after being shown off years ago at this point and still looking like weak sauce is more so the question?…This along with hellblade, fable, perfect dark and Everwild all wreak of development hell thus far with no substantial gameplay or set in stone release dates seen from any of those titles. Redfall was complete trash and Starfield is a snooze fest stuck at 30fps on the worlds most powerful console. If it wasn’t for marketing I don’t know how Xbox would still have a division at this point.

[King_Noctis]

@FlavorLav01

Development hell? Lol what? Hellblade and Fable literally just got shown during the last MS’ showcase. Using your logic, are games like The Last of Us Faction, Fairgame$, and Marathon in development hell because they don’t have gameplay and release date yet?

And Awoved being pre-alpha does not mean it is far from complete. It is already set to come out next year. And as for your other points? Smh.

[RpgSama]

The real question is how can It still be pre-alpha if it was announced 3 years ago, then how much longer until it actually releases? 2 more years? 3? Is this coming out 2025?

[--Onilink--]

Its already announced for next year..
And alpha doesn’t mean it has X number of years left, it honestly doesn’t mean ANYTHING to anyone outside the studio as they are the ones that define what the Alpha milestone means to them

[KingKionic]

Its probably in Pre alpha. Which give it a year from now it will be in beta form for sure. Not unusual for a game due for 2024.

If it was in alpha now it could release later this year.

[raWfodog]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see this get pushed back to 2025 release. Please don’t rush development just to make an arbitrary MS deadline and release an unfinished game. But Obsidian is a quality developer IMO so I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt.

[KingKionic]

Obsidian is able to juggle multiple games at one time.

Its gonna hit 2024.

[anast]

The game looked bad, like Skyrim bad.

[LostPotato]

The graphic style will stay the same so not much they can do. Also after almost four years of development their not even in Alpha yet? Guess those reports and articles about a troubled development and soft re-boot were correct.

[Silver_ShadoWolf]

Oh, good. It didn’t look impressive.

[talocaca]

And it is supposed to release next year? Sounds like another RedFall....

[MadLad]

People are harping on the graphics a bit too much. They're not top tier, sure, but they're not bad.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

It looks like a late 360 title/early PS4 title, that's not worthy of being a Series game. Graphics aren't everything, but they're a big part of why people are buying $70 games.

[shinoff2183]

That's pretty petty.

[Chevalier]

That's pretty bad for 3+ years of development.

[MadLad]

You do realize this is a medium sized studio and full development doesn't necessarily happen just when they announce something is in development.

In 3 years that same studio had just finished up Outer Worlds, were assisting on Wasteland 3, working on expansions for Outer Worlds, released and have been continually working on Grounded, released Pentiment, and all while working on on possibly their largest project to date, Avowed.

All the while there is reason to believe they are legitimately working on a yet officially announced Fallout project, and yet another unannounced new IP.

That sort of record, considering the quality reception of basically everything they've been putting out on the regular, actually puts them pretty high on the list of developers who can be trusted to put out a good game.

[shinoff2183]

Madlad

I agree with what your saying. Avowed for me though just seems kinda eh its got nothing to do with graphics for me . I do enjoy most of what I've played from them.

[Chevalier]

You do realize the reason people bring up the graphics is because of the trailer they showed us 3 years ago right?! You make it seem like it completely unreasonable when they set up everyone's expectations themselves

[MadLad]

They released a CG trailer with nothing all that tangible about the game, itself, when the game, itself, was purely in preproduction.
The only thing the trailer showed was a grim dark color pallet that was pretty generic and conformed to the basic Skyrim/Witcher medieval aesthetic that virtually everyone goes with. Other than that the recent reveal faithfully held to the gameplay shown, and the knowing that, being an Obsidian game, you should expect a real RPG experience where you can assume your choices within the game world actually affect the game world.

I'm 31 years old. I played Skyrim when I was 19. I'm not begging for Obsidian's rehash of Skyrim. I'm expecting much more from this game than that. I'm actually happy seeing the game differentiate itself from that, even if there's a bunch of people whining not Skyrim doesn't look Skyrim enough.

[Chevalier]

I got no issues with your comparison to Skyrim and I agree it should be its own thing. My point still stands though. People will always compare the graphics to what was previously shown. If it was shown one way then so drastically changed then it starts to feel like the rug got pulled out from under them.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure it will be a good game probably great even. But the criticism of what's to be expected of the graphics is valid to many based on what was shown. I was incredibly hyped by the previous trailer and honestly was pretty let down when we saw its recent showing be nothing similar.

[shinoff2183]

The graphics aren't the problem. It just doesn't look fun imo

[Destiny1080]

The PS2 called, and said it wants its graphics back

[MadLad]

The PS2 couldn't even run Morrowind.