How Xbox is turning the next Forza Motorsport into an RPG | MobileSyrup

In a hands-off demo in Los Angeles, Turn 10 creative director Chris Esaki showed off the latest Forza Motorsport -- here's what we learned.

[Jin_Sakai]

CaRPG aside this just didn’t impress me visually. GT7 looks better. Heck, I’d even say Forza Horizon 5 looks better and it’s open world.

https://i.ibb.co/5jqPkG2/DA...

[KingKionic]

That pic definitely seems sketchy in comparison but this part in the Career Mode showing the new time and day cycle is much better.

https://youtu.be/0lNR2Kk_f4...

Its gonna be legit.

[Tacoboto]

This level of trolling is beneath you, Jin. I wouldn't have expected you to be one of the types to do something as... Specific... as doing YouTube frozen-frame comparisons of two different games recorded in different ways with unknown base-upload quality.

Nevermind that the only thing similar between the two is the car. Different roads, different lighting, entirely different racing conditions and the PS5 picture doesn't even have one other vehicle in it.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You give him too much credit. It’s entirely predictable.

[darthv72]

John at DF is planning on doing a full review of FM8 with comparison to GT7. Like he did with FM7 with GTS.

[Hypertension140]

I'm looking forward to that, from the footage I've seen so far GT 7 looks better to me, especially car models.

[IRetrouk]

Will he use the xbox version this time or pc again though🤔

[KingKionic]

I watched the full demo and it was very very nice. Builders Cup Career mode will get new cars and tracks directly into the mode.Challenge the grid is dope now for managing your winnings chances and disadvantages. I love the way the car mastery for leveling up the car itself is slick. You get car points no different like a character and now if you get a car part you dont want and remove it get those car points back.

[dekke]

plus always online ^^

https://www.purexbox.com/ne...

[Tacoboto]

Yep, continuing the trend set by GT for all campaign progress. Unfortunate they're doing the same

[rlow1]

What I thought is cool, was the video of a blind person being able to play the game very well. Now that’s what I call accessibility.

[Flawlessmic]

Can't wait to get my hands on this, iv put in close to 200 hrs in gt7 so hopefully forza takes it to another level and they just keep pushing each other.

Its looking like it will be another brillant racer from turn 10, October can't come soon enough!

[Flawlessmic]

So I just watched the ign career mode walkthrough and........ what the actual fuck.

Your telling me I need to use a car to actually start unlocking any upgrades for it.

How long will I need to use a car before I can fully upgrade it the way I want.

Part of the joy of these games is building up your credits and then splurging on the cars you want and making them power houses immediatly

This just severely limits the amount of car you will use in the game unless you just want to drive everything stock which goes against everything we love about these types of games.

Ffs I was so pumped for this and now my hype just died in the ass, besides the racing the tuning is the most important thing and now they locked it behind time sinks.

I swear to God if there is a microtransaction that allows you to fully master a car, I'm rioting lolllllll

Also just ruined online races with freinds as well were we pick all pick the same car and tune them to a set level before racing and then keep changing the cars every couple of races or so in gt7. Looks like gt will still be the go to for online

[mark_parch]

i think they said it takes roughly 1 to 2 hours to max a car out plus you can re-allocate points whenever you want. i actually prefer this system of earning upgrades but i can see why some people don't.

[jznrpg]

Ok 👍

[Sonic1881]

Microsoft is focused more on western rpgs and rpgs in general than first person shooters now. I don't know if that's good or bad for the casual Xbox fans. For example is Starfield realistic approach really for the casual gamer?🤔

[Ryuk_2007]

Sonic.. 59 out of your last 60 comments has been about downplaying Xbox. Why don't you call it a night and continue the good fight tomorrow.

[Sonic1881]

Dude they're trying to make Forza a RPG as well. What's up with just focusing on RPGs? Downplay Microsoft? Just like I downplayed Sony after their showcase with more than 60 comments? Ok🫠😂 I'm just stating facts

[VariantAEC]

CaRPG is a term coined to explain the style of Gran Turismo's gameplay loop. Turn 10 took this a bit too literally and only allows users to apply a certain number of upgrades to cars they own which increases as you use the vehicle. It's a baffling design choice and actually not as original as some may think (yes, this was done in some obscure mobile racing games before) and its only helping to make FM even LESS realistic than the series already was.

It's not what fans wanted or asked for which is exactly why there are so few people here hyping this article. N4G's Xbox base wants this story to die and maybe all the other Forza Motorsport stories up until release which will also not likely track well, but might actually heat up as people poke fun at the fanboys.

[Flawlessmic]

@variant

So your saying I need to level up the car so to speak in order to upgrade?

Bruhhh if so wtf, just let me race, earn my winnings and upgrade my car accordingly.

I really hope that's not the case, that will wake the fun out of racing my freinds when we all have big banks and then decide on car to buy to use for a few races and our ability to upgrade them straight away like we do in gt7.

[KingKionic]

RPGS are immersion magnets.

Pretty obvious why Turn10 would go this route. It sucks you into the game deeper.

[Sonic1881]

Fair enough

[EvertonFC]

"My biggest takeaway from the presentation, as someone who isn’t really into racing games"

Why do they continue to send people to behind closed door presentations etc who don't like the genre. Example "as someone who isn't really into racing games"
I never understand that, it's the same with some game reviews, said company or website getting someone who doesn't like a genre to review a game genre they don't like etc.

[meganick]

The previous games had so many RPG elements that even those were essentially RPG’s with cars instead of people. RPG elements have crept into most every genre. That’s not inherently a bad thing though. Unfortunately the actual RPG genre has been watered down into lame action games with RPG elements, probably for the sake of “accessibility.”

[jznrpg]

Really it sounds like RPG in this game is just code for a way to milk your time and make this live service and their hope is to get you to pay for MicroTransactions.
Why would you have to spend so much time upgrading one car at a time ? Sounds like a money milking strategy to me.