Diablo 4 armor prices are so high they rival MW2 and Overwatch 2

Diablo 4 armor prices are giving Modern Warfare 2 and OW2 competition, so you might want to save up your currency before kitting out your best Diablo 4 classes.

[SullysCigar]

Seems they learned a lot from Diablo Immoral..

[Old McGroin]

They're just cosmetics though, right?

[GhostTurtle]

Yes, theyre 100% cosmetics. The article even contradicts itself:
"However, equipping some of the best Diablo 4 armor sets won’t necessarily be cheap in the Blizzard Entertainment RPG. With the Diablo 4 Season 1 release date approaching, many players are discovering that the game’s cosmetics are as expensive as Modern Warfare 2‘s and Overwatch 2‘s more sought-after skin bundles"

The fuck is this journalism? Armor sets and skins arent the same thing...The saltly down votes are hilarious.

[Bobertt]

Every time Blizzard launches a game the Blizzard simps come out and say it's just cosmetics or not pay to win and that they learned from the last microtransaction issue. Then after the launch reviews come out saying there aren't bad microtransactions fooling people into giving them another chance they update the game and add them like they always planned. Activision and Blizzard are trash game companies and run by shit people stop enabling them.

[Sonic1881]

This is what I was concerned about. Activision has been doing this for years. This is one of the reasons why Microsoft wants to buy them. Basically put it on gamepass and let the gamers by microtransactions, Gaas, and paywall for longevity. COD, DIablo, and World of War craft is perfect for that. Activision abused it with Diablo Immoral 🤔 the prices were insane on there and basically pay to win

[just_looken]

Saldy we are back to the capacom days were 25% of the game on your disc is locked behind a pay wall.

take a look at how many armors are behind the store front
https://www.diablofans.com/...

For those that do not remember or were not born yet here is a 2012 on disc dlc article
https://www.eurogamer.net/c...

[Kosic]

If those are the graphics of the cosmetic items in the store. Then they are having a laugh at laziness for a high price tag. They all look like crap.

[just_looken]

The image source is from data miners so good chance that is what we will see for sale

[gerbintosh]

@Sullyscigar,

Or they learnrd it from Fortnite. They have skins in the $20 range, people still buy them and Epic makes billions

[Kaozz1979]

You don't have to buy them. It's cosmetic bullshit with nothing added to the gameplay.

[PhillyDillyDee]

A tired argument. Just because they dont affect gameplay doesnt mean they arent an important part of the game experience. Your argument empowers these companies to keep doing crap like this and it brings the experiences we are having down.

If you dont believe me go and play a game that has no MTX and unlockable skins and tell me it isnt awesome to unlock and play with those new cosmetics. Spiderman is one that comes to mind.

[NotoriousWhiz]

Games cost more than ever. And this one will have constant development with regard to new seasons, quests, etc. If they need the extra funds from someone else to support that development then that's fine with me. It also could have been a one and done game with no purchasable cosmetics or post game content and tbh, I would have been fine with that too.

[dumahim]

Important? In what way? For those few pixels your character takes up on the screen, these cosmetics are important?

[DarXyde]

NotoriousWhiz,

I think there are ways around increased costs that don't involve MTX.

1. We need to be okay with smaller budget titles being the norm and build up to bigger games periodically throughout a generation. There's a serious financial risk involved when budgets are too big and there are concerns about a game's commercial performance.

2. Execs can stop patting themselves on the back by giving themselves raises. Give the bulk (or all) of it to the workforce and keep them happy and inspired to do bold things.

3. I've said this before, but I think if you beat a game, it would be cool to allow you to tip a developer the way Spotify lets you tip an artist. A lot of a little is eventually a lot. With that, I think a modest price drop on base price is a great way to get people on board early. It's deeply psychological, but if you have a $70 8-hour game that's a 7/10, that same game at $50-$60 might score a bit higher. Thus, the game's critical success can help commercial success and incentive tipping.

[Magic_Spatula]

@NotoriousWhiz

That's a tired excuse also. Yeah, sure, games are more expensive to make nowadays, but these AAA developers make mad money year upon year. They can afford to spend the money on making these "expensive" games because the massive sales makes up the money invested. I'm speaking about AAA developers/publishers. They make millions off of the sales of the games alone. CoD, Madden, NBA2K, etc. make these companies millions ever year and yet they shove in these microtransactions and $#1t, they're even $70 now and they're essentially the same game year after year with minor updates and they still charge full price for them. The reason why they push microtransactions is because of the extra revenue which these companies don't even need. It is always and will always be down to greed alone. Didn't Activision make like a few billion off of microtransactions alone last year or something? Or it might have been Epic but that doesn't change the fact that these AAA companies will keep pushing other avenues of making extra money when they don't need it. GTA 5 keeps selling, probably one of the most sold titles ever but they keep pushing those Shark Cards cuz it brings in extra revenue they really don't need. Madden, NBA, and sports game are essentially the same game every year with minor updates and they push the hell out of microtransactions and even in game advertisements now and those sports titles alone sell very well. Microtransactions never needed to be in AAA games. They were added because of how successful they've been in F2P mobile games.

[persona4chie]

I agree, I’ve found a shit ton of costumes in totk with lots more to go. And obviously Zelda isn’t the only game to still have in game unlockables/costumes it does make me sad that not many games do anymore. And usually the ones that do, don’t offer many. Literally Spider-Man and Zelda are the only 2 games I can think of that I’ve personally played over the last few years that have had a lot of in game costumes.

[Michiel1989]

for me it's really gonna depend on how good the base game + battlepass cosmetics look, I won't be shelling out 10 euros+ for a skin. paying 10 bucks for a battlepass every 3 months is fine, but the armor better looks at least good.

[Extermin8or3_]

People commenting on here have bo idea. Just this past year games have technically decreased in cost by about 5-10% in real terms because of inflation. Games approximate value in terms of how much they cost has decreased over the past 25 years. During that time games development costs have ballooned and big budget titles now sit in line with blockbuster movie budgets. Businesses need to make anprofit they aren't charities. Movies have the box office but games don't so unfortunately they need new ways to make money. I personally think they take the piss with the prices of Microtransactions however. I would rather they charge reasonable prices for extra skins and thus more people got them than a minority of people waste such large sums of money on them, but whatever.

[neutralgamer1992]

While I see your point and agree with it too do you also have to understand that not long ago we were getting these things simply by playing the game the way we wanted to

By simply saying nothing, and accepting whatever the greedy publishers, do nothing will ever change.

That is why a company like Ubisoft will go out of their way to make their games more grindy and repetitive so then they can sell us XP boosters in single player games

There was a time we could play the games we wanted the way we wanted and especially in single player games if we wanted do use cheat codes to unlock stuff we could. Now those same things are being sold to us as micro transactions.

I remember back in the day, playing sports games with my friends and they were cheats available to turn the players heads big that was just fun non-something like that is extra

Also, on a serious note, there are way too many people in the world right now who simply say it doesn’t affect me when it comes to everything and one way or another it does affect them

[Old McGroin]

@neutralgamer1992

" also have to understand that not long ago we were getting these things simply by playing the game the way we wanted to

By simply saying nothing, and accepting whatever the greedy publishers, do nothing will ever change."

I've been seeing people say this since Oblivions horse armour back in 2006. The horse has well and truly bolted by now buddy.

[dumahim]

The horse armor is a bargain at this point.

[Surt]

So your saying you want to pay the $250 for a game upfront. Its amazing at how many think development costs stayed the same as in the 1990s while keeping prices of that era. Remember Phantasy Star 4? $90 for that game. Batman and Robin for genesis back than was $79 at toys r us.

[shinoff2183]

Your first few lines. Remember mortal kombat I think Armageddon for ps2 and Xbox. You played and played got those coins and was able to unlock stuff from the crypt. Extra outfits, even characters oh my

Great times for gaming then it went online. Patches are nice, although a double edged sword but everything else brought with online is rubble

[Omnisonne]

No but it does give the impression that they cut out content that could've otherwise enriched the base game, and sell it separately instead. Wether that's the case or not we'll never know, but it's not a great move to win over your fanbase.

[Chriswynnetbh]

I mean Kaozz is right. Nobody is required to buy these. If you simply pretend they don't exist, it doesn't change your experience at all. Companies aren't going to all the sudden stop putting mtx in games, especially games that require as much maintenence as an online multi-player experience like diablo. If you don't like it, don't buy it. But for people that wanna throw money at the game for a cool hat, let them because that will fund the updates and dlc that people who don't will still benefit from.

[shinoff2183]

For now.

[-Foxtrot]

Every time you ignore something and say "You don't have to buy them" you are basically just letting them do what they want until they get so bad they do something that will p*** you off but by then it will be too late

Horse Armour DLC
Cut content
Lootboxes
Online Passes
Online Only
MTs
GaaS

So on...

[Chriswynnetbh]

No we just live in reality and know that even if 10,000 people choose not to buy it for those reasons, there are still hundreds of thousands of people that don't give a shit that will. In context, many of the things you listed are fine or even preferred for certain types of games. It isn't some never ending slippery slope that will ineitably get worse. All of those things are here to stay and cosmetic mtx that are completely ignorable are hardly the most egregious implementations of any of the above.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I'm getting this game, but avoiding PvP/all battle passes and MTX. Just playing the story/co-op content

[Blastoise]

You can buy full games for that much. Humanity and Hi-Fi Rush for example are $29.99. These aren't even microtransactions anymore

[Knushwood Butt]

Humanity is excellent, and the user created content is free to play, so potentially endless gaming there for your investment.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I wish that game had a physical version so bad

[NotoriousWhiz]

Who cares? I don't go into a store planning on buying the whole store. You can progress all the way to the end of the game without purchasing a single piece of cosmetic armor.

[jznrpg]

Yeah but they make it so it takes much longer than it would have in the past to encourage you to give in and pay for it. Le

Lets see what else I hey add in the near future it may be more than cosmetics

[NotoriousWhiz]

It takes just as long. Buying cosmetic armor doesn't help you progress any faster.

Wait as long as you like. In the meantime, I'll be enjoying a well made and well received game without buying a single piece of cosmetic armor.

[shinoff2183]

Soon those cosmetics will have Stat upgrades. Please don't support this shit yall

[jznrpg]

I may get this when the full package is out in a 3-4 years or so.
You know there will at least be yearly battle passes if not more frequent and eventually they will put it all in one game.

[Hofstaderman]

My sentiment too. It was this or street fighter 6. When I read the SF6 was a complete package and leagues ahead of what SF5 was at launch I pulled the trigger without a second thought.

[masterfox]

oh be quiet , this game is a 10/10, there is no way developers put their best items or cosmetic items behind a paywall....riiight?

[tagzskie]

A 60/70$ game with season passes with additional skin and always online. I miss the old days..

[Surt]

When games were $60-$80? Adjust for 2023 dev costs and you will end up with upfront price higher than $80 game.

[PhillyDillyDee]

Well you should also account for the number of games sold at that figure. Back in the day selling a million copies of something was next to impossible

[jambola]

Wonder how many of the big review sites mentioned this 🤔

[Sonic1881]

A lot of them ignored it. But Diablo Immoral was so successful that I knew they would do the same for Diablo 4. The only difference is the mobile gamer mentality is different than the console and PC gamer. Mobile gamers don't mind pay to win

[CrimsonWing69]

Ok, don’t buy it if you don’t want it. What’s so hard about this sh*t? If you want it, more power to you. We’re in 2023, this isn’t newsworthy. If you don’t like it, vote with your f*cking wallet. Otherwise, shut the hell up about it.

The only time microtransactions are an issue is when progression is blocked behind them like a mobile game. If it’s cosmetics, just get over it.

[shinoff2183]

Unfortunately for this attitude this is a site where we talk and discuss, give opinions and he'll even argue about video games.

It's cosmetics for now. The times coming just wait suckers. For all the people supporting this. Thank you for the very dim future.

[CrimsonWing69]

Let's be real, here.

What's your fear? We've seen the reviews on the game, nobody has mentioned the experience is some hollow shell that you have to continuously dish out money for.

Is it because you want these cosmetics and you don't think it's fair you have to pay that extra $5 for something?

Arguing about this is like arguing about me paying .75 cents for an additional BBQ sauce at some fast food joint to dip my f*cking fries in. It's a non-issue, if people didn't buy them, publishers wouldn't waste their time.

It has no bearing on the game experience, we both will play the exact same game, but if I see something I like and feel the game is worth it to me, I'll dish out a few couple clams here and there for some cosmetics.

There's no suckers here. If it was predatory, I wouldn't spend my money, it's as simple as that.

You want to complain about prices and paying extra, complain about the $70 price tag for these games. That's more of a relevant issue than horse armor costing as much as some gun skin in COD.

[Rutaprkl]

Activi$ion Blizzard is such a f****** joke of a company.

[Sonic1881]

Not to Microsoft because they think alike

[Surt]

The way you hear everyone moan on about cosmetic or DLC would have you think games in the 1990s were $40. LOL Genesis games ranged from $60 to $80 at toys r us. GENESIS. Phantasy Star 4 was $90. So go ahead and tell me you all want to pay $250 for a game upfront.

[shinoff2183]

You keep saying this. One it was a matter of where you shopped. I'll say one other thing phantasy star for wasn't 90 bones in my area. No way my broke ass family would've been able to afford that when it came out.

Great game by the way.

[Surt]

If you brought it in 1995 it was just under $100. North American retail value was $95

[il-JumperMT]

In my country games during PS1 Era where $125
Nowdays they are 60 EURO.

Waycheaper

[shinoff2183]

For real though even though they came out and said something like this wouldn't be diablo 4 , who didn't see this coming.

[Kosic]

I am so on the fence with this title. My friends are all over it but I find supporting this greed worrying. There is nothing stopping them releasing xpac after xpac like Destiny 2 and milking for sub par content.

I do hope this changes once Microsoft owns act/blizzard

[anast]

And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

[TheEnigma313]

One of the many reasons I refuse to pay $70 for new games.

[senorfartcushion]

probably won’t affect reviews though - they rarely do

[il-JumperMT]

people still supporting blizzard in 2023. its like seeing someone in an abusive relationship

[enkiduxiv]

Ha! 10/10 though, just about everywhere you look. Nothing like paying 70 dollars for a reskin of Diablo 3 with super expensive cosmetics. You gotta love this industry.

Honestly, they should just let Microsoft buy these clowns. This bubble is going to burst eventually and when it does it's gonna be hilarious.

[Tankbusta40]

Its starts as "just cosmetics" when the games launch....then all the reviews come out and we know where it ends up

I am not sure if SOJ's are even in this game but I am sure if they are, instead of grinding...you'll be able to purchase one for the very small sum of $24.99!

[Binnsy]

Just play story...

[GhostScholar]

The problem is the blizzard fan boys will spend their whole pay checks on virtual wardrobes. Can’t blame blizzard for taking advantage of the marks.

[ReZoN]

Pricey!

[sadraiden]

Hahahaha buying armor.

[HeliosHex]

True warriors fight in their underwear.

[gold_drake]

Diablo Immortal says hello

[Cacolaco]

Can’t stand cosmetic armor. I want to find armor pieces that look amazing together and build sets. Cosmetic armor is so fake and stupid and just a money grab.