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Xbox 360 Game Install Sizes + Performance Ratings - 310 Games and Counting!

This list consists of over 54% of the currently available Xbox 360 games released since the consoles' launch in 2005. While still quite a ways to go before completion, it is never-the-less a great start and helpful guide for everyone who is considering installing games to their Xbox 360 HDDs.

Green = load times improved by 6 or more seconds.
Yellow = load times improved by 3-5 seconds.
White = load times haven't changed, +/- 1-2 seconds.
Red = load times worse by 3 or more seconds.
Gray = game performance needs to be reported.
* = Japanese game.

NOTE: The above list has been compiled thanks to; CAG members, Anonymous tips, NeoGAF, AVForums, and StripesOnFire.

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SynGamer5961d ago

I'd like to encourage everyone to contribute to this list if possible, whether via PM here or by posting in the thread on CAG. While i doubt we can get EVERY game, i'd like to try at the very least.

YouNoob5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

FIFA 09 = Green
Midnight Club LA = Yellow

all the others i got installed are already on the list.

if nobody can fill you in on those, send a pm and i'll have a look:

Battlefield Bad Company
Beijing 2008
Bully: Scholarship Edition
FIFA 08
Flatout Ultimate Carnage
Frontlines: Fuel of War
Godfather
Guitar Hero II
King Kong
Moto GP 06
Moto GP 07
Need For Speed: Carbon
NHL 08
Prey
PURE
Shadowrun
Test Drive Unlimited
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08
Virtua Tennis 3

SynGamer5961d ago

Every little bit helps, thanks! If possible, post actual times, it for no other reason than evidence for others to confirm/deny.

tk5961d ago

Seems like most does not speed up, but actually has worse load times.
Hopefully for the XB360 crowd it will at least reduce the disk scratching and noise levels. Could be a problem with the limited disk capacity though.

Just upgraded my PS3 to 250GB (from 60GB) as I ran out of disk space last week with the latest install. Seems like the encrypted FAT32 on the PS3 is as much a space waster as the normal FAT32. What is the XB360 filesystem?

SynGamer5961d ago

Technically EVERY game installed could be considered an improvement because there is no disc spinning, thus less noise and more importantly, less wear on your DVD drive. As for load times, most games see at least a little improvement in load times and/or performance.

YouNoob5961d ago

FATX and XTAF are the two filesystems used on Xbox 360 harddiscs, FATX is also used on Xbox 1 harddiscs.

The installation feature is great, especially for noise reduction. Without the fan running the machine is as quiet as it can be. Loading times haven't been an issue for me personally in any of the 100+ games i own for the 360.

meepmoopmeep5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

wait, i thought installs were a bad thing

Mr_Bun5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

I think the majority of people are installing their games so that they don't have to hear the 360 running at mach 2...at least that's why I do it.

meepmoopmeep5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

lol,

yeah i know, i was just messing with those who use to
shout at the tops of mountains about installs.
now they seem to think it's not too bad after all.

i would rather install myself if it makes performance any better.

Sarcasm5961d ago

"that they don't have to hear the 360 running at mach 2.."

LOL

It's not that bad. It's more like a vacuum cleaner.

Bladestar5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

"wait, i thought installs were a bad thing."

I thought drinking was a bad thing.... no my friend drinking urine is bad... drinking water is really good.

Don't compare the two things.

Installs:

* PS3 Mandatory installs.
* XBox 360 Optional installs.
* XBox 360 optional install benefits?
- Lowers power consumption.
- Lowers noise.
- Improve loading time (Take a look a GTAIV... http://www.gametrailers.com... it was already faster on the xbox 360 before intalls... with the installs is even more than 6 seconds faster).
- PS3 installs benefits? (I'll leave it up to you to list them).

Don't confuse mandatory workaround in order to make the game playable with optional manful improvements.

anh_duong5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

i would still use hd install to reduce wear and tear on the laser on most my xbox games

Mr_Bun5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

Why are you bringing the PS3 into this? You obviously don't have one otherwise you would know that not all PS3 games have mandatory installs. If you had read Meep's follow-up you would know that he was just messing around.

Are you always this uninformed?

meepmoopmeep5961d ago

lol, leave him be.

i don't read his stuff.
it's usually a wall of text i don't care to read

Bladestar5961d ago

@Mr Bun - When Meep said, "wait, i thought installs were a bad thing" do you think he was referring to people talking about wii people saying that "installs were bad" or the PS3... isn't obvious why I mentioned it or things have to be spelled to you?

"i don't read his stuff. " of course you don't... who likes it when someone counter our irrational dump comments? specially lack the ability to counter back. Don't blame you... if I were you I would do the same.

How can you refute what I said?

"Are you always this uninformed? " please "inform me" and point out what I said it my comment that is not true. (at least use the right word to describe my comment. "uninformed"? what is?

Man_of_the_year5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

Totally agree with you - It was clearly indicated from the first post that as a PS3 fanboy he was attacking 360 owners about install.

Also don't mind these guys - they are clearly apart of the SDF and didn't know what to say to counter your truthful argument. So the only thing left to attack is your integrity.

SDF handbook - "when countered logically and truthfully in any kind of argument and the excuses - RROD, disc scratching and paying XBL have been used or do not apply - resort to name calling and personal attacks"

Mr_Bun5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

"uninformed - not informed; lacking in knowledge or information"
From- http://www.thefreedictionar...

I guess in a long way, you answered my question... Apparently you are uninformed. You also need to be told things more than once as I have already stated that not every game on the PS3 has mandatory installs. I am surprised that you missed that seeing as it isn't buried in 14 pages of text...it is the 2nd sentence in.

Also don't knock the games that have mandatory installs...Maybe you aren't aware that the machine you are typing on requires them...and as far as the 360 goes...they CAN'T have "Mandatory" installs as not every 360 has a HDD.

Maybe you should start doing some research before you try to belittle that which you clearly don't understand. I am fortunate enough to own multiple consoles as well as be informed of the pros/cons of each.

Thanks for adding to the current generation of fanboyism!

vdesai5961d ago

Sure Sony could allow you to copy the whole game disk onto the drive , but blurays are too big. Unlike the 360 installs the PS3 installs do not take up 4GB on average. Also, as Mr Bun explained not all of them are mandatory. There are few titles that have large install size. Back to the article, I am unsatisfied that Microsoft did go with just storing disk images but I was expecting git sucks to be those with arcade though or even with a 20GB HDD.

Pennywise5961d ago

PS3 bashers out in full force. Who would of thought.

Doesnt it get old guys? The PS3 is a great machine... you can not sit here and try to convince people who actually own it otherwise. You just sound silly.

Lets try to follow the rules and keep the comments ON TOPIC and not turn in into a flamebait mess like it usually does.

Graphics Whore5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

Bladestar why do you type why do you even think, I really believe your being sentient was a huge mistake.

BIGBAER5961d ago

The 360's optional install?---good for the user who wants it. Freedom of choice! Yeearrrrgh!

BIGBAER5961d ago

I'm glad to have the option. This is also just another step in prepping gamers for largescale digital distribution.

Little steps... little steps.

7h3ultim8p005961d ago

Mr Bun you are not really making much of an argument. Bladestar's point still stands because regardless of whether not all games require a mandatory install on the PS3, the 360's installs are optional and offer improvements while the PS3's installs are required just to make the game playable.

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Cajun Chicken5961d ago (Edited 5961d ago )

I WANTED to be impressed with the game install feature on NXE, but I can't, do you know why?

Crackdown isn't supported, the game that needed speeded up load times the MOST, is NOT supported. All in all, I just find it a little bit pointless.
I installed Earth Defence Force 2017 and no real obvious differences, I expected the aliens to stream off the disc smoother instead of that 1 second gap of the game freezing and it loads the next load of enemies on the screen and on the whole make it more taxing, but alas that did not work.

Sure it makes the 360 quieter, but its really not worth that space, I'd rather use that space to fill with decent XBLA games.

Anyone who finds game installs on 360 handy, good for you, for me its personally a bit of a let down and a little bit on the whole, pointless.

urban bohemian5961d ago

Fallout 3, Fable 2 and Prince of Persia for me especially. And it definately reduces that noise level, I'm lucky though as I've got an elite so dont have to worry about space too much. Oh and it works miracles on lost odyessy.

Mr_Bun5961d ago

I am with you. What is up with Crackdown? That game takes forever to load...and it doesn't seem justified. It is a pretty cool co-op that would really benefit from installing.

Road Dog5961d ago

Would you shut the f*ck up about crackdown and EDF that is all you ever talk about. Go back to farting around in Home.

Cajun Chicken5961d ago

They are the only really good exclusive single player games I enjoy on the 360, y'know that unusual factor called 'fun'. You may not realise that because you are too busy abusing peoples gaming choices.

Gears is seriously overrated compared to what Epic CAN do and has in the past on the PC (Its obvious the development time in Gears made UTIII a poor game due to the focus on Gears as the primary project).

Halo3 should of been on XBOX, because there visually isn't that much difference, its good, but I've completed it twice now, didn't touch the genius of the first installment. Besides, MS want me to fork out another £40 for the multiplayer section I bought on the disc.

Mass Effect isn't my cup of tea due to being an RPG.

And nothing decent and 'must have' has come out on XBLA since the middle of summer because its full of god forsaken Popcap games.

Oh wait. Dead Rising is pretty good too, benches, weeeee...

SynGamer5961d ago

@Cajun Chicken

I just completed Mass Effect and it is by far one of the best games, both story and gameplay wise, that i've ever played. I went in with an open mind and was blown away. It's more of a shooter with some great RPG elements combined into one powerhouse of a game. Highly recommended.

Cajun Chicken5961d ago

I'll look it up at some point. Thanks.

I hear that Fallout 3 fits into this shooter/RPG division genre too and I'm edging towards that when the price is right.

7h3ultim8p005961d ago

Try Ninja Gaiden 2 as well, though I will not responsible for anything that gets broken in your house.

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Scotracer5961d ago

The only game I have installed is GTA IV and it improves load times and frame-rate by a considerable amount.

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Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood Is Still The Greatest Questline In Bethesda History

Murder continues to hit different in Oblivion Remastered thanks to the Dark Brotherhood.

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TheColbertinator1d 7h ago

I liked the Dark Brotherhood from Oblivion and Skyrim but disliked how there is nothing left afterward.

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Xbox Made $21 Billion Last Year, But Needs You To Pay More For Games

"While Xbox prints money, while it spends $75 billion on acquiring Activision, while it aggressively cuts into its profit attempting to corner the market with Xbox Game Pass, and while it does little to curtail bloat and overspending at its studios, it wants you to give it more money. And you shouldn't."

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Tacoboto2d ago

"Rather than absorb the cost of inflation, tariffs, and other costs, Xbox is passing along the cost to its consumers. This is an odd decision to begin with"

When US-based fake-journalists don't know at all what they're talking about.

Nintendo's listing games at $80 after their most successful console generation in their history. They even increased the price of the Joycon 2 mouse strap One Freaking Dollar because they can. Sony has said the PS5 generation is their most profitable generation so far and also has their own international console price increases and even increased the controller price stateside.

This isn't an Xbox problem, it's a games industry problem.

TylerFischer2d ago

What does the quote have to do with the rest of your comment?

Tacoboto2d ago

What business in this world is *not* going to pass an increased cost onto the customer in some way?

darthv722d ago

@Tyler... that MS is only the latest in the trend of companies not wanting to absorb the cost of inflation. That XB is but the latest platform to pass along the cost to its customers. If both Nintendo and Sony (which also made $$$$$) did not find it an odd decision... why would you think MS would?

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Finally someone bringing up inflation instead of simpleton golden book stories of greedy CEOs and their yachts

S2Killinit1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

@Darth
Correction. MS is the first. This isnt inflation related. The inflation round of increases happened across all platforms.

MS is the FIRST not the last as you implied, to pass on cost of tariffs.

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Bathyj2d ago

The problem is gamers. They indulge in a luxury industry and live in a bubble where they think prices should remain the same for four decades. What other industry keeps their prices the same for four decades? None. Price rising is the norm.

The problem here is entitlement. Microsoft just spent 100 billion dollars trying to better their platform and they pull in 20 billion a year in revenue not profit. How long do you think it's going to take before they make their money back? What did you think they were going to do with their prices?

darthv722d ago

...MS already made that $$ back the first year. And i think there was a piece about it when it happened. I guess you can search for it.

Bathyj1d 21h ago

I call bollicks on that.
I doubt Xbox has made $100b profit since it started.

S2Killinit1d 17h ago

@Darth
No they didnt. Not even close. They will be paying that 82 BILLION with profits, not revenue.

S2Killinit1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

@Darth
MS has not made 82 Billion in all its time in gaming industry. They spent more on Activision than they have made in 4 generations. It was an emergency purchase.

Whoever told you they made 82 BILLION in PROFITS thought you were stupid.

darthv721d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

^^... it doesnt take much to look it up. https://macrotrends.net/sto...

And I'm talking about MS... not just the gaming part. Seeing as it was MS $$ and not simply one division that was used to buy ABKZ. And yes... they did make that $$ back.

"Microsoft gross profit for the twelve months ending December 31, 2024 was $181.715B, a 14.48% increase year-over-year."

Bathyj1d 5h ago

Rereading your message you clearly said MS not Xbox but Jesus Darth, that's some major goal post moving. C'mon you're better than that.

My comment was obviously about Microsoft requiring some return on investment from the investment they made , not through other means. that's not how business works.

If I buy a Bitcoin and it loses 4000 in a month I'm not okay with that just because I made six thousand in a month at my regular job. I want the Bitcoin to make a profit otherwise it wasn't worth it.

A business that doesn't generate profit is not sustainable even if it has a Rich Dad. eventually that well will run dry.

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Profchaos2d ago

It's not just a games industry problem it's a global economy problem everything is going up

goken1d 21h ago

Nope prices in China ain’t going up.
Even in South east Asia where prices went up the last few years, it’s no where near what the Americans and Europeans have been experiencing.

In fact just a couple of days ago i got 120 eggs (size c, it’s not big) that was on offer for USD$3.25. Ask yourself, how much would that be in the US right now.

neutralgamer19922d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just stop buying at launch and wait. Also this price instead kind of tells the consumer if you want to spend less sign up for gamepass. I always wait 6-12 months before buying. This way I get a game after a multiple patches and pay most half of not less price. There are very very few games which are worth full price at launch

Whether we like it or not guys prices gonna go up. Will anyone really be surprised if next playstation and Xbox launches at 699 (with disk drive sold separately) , $99 controllers, 80 for digital and 90 for physical

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P_Bomb2d ago

Does anybody wanna compete for my dollar anymore? Anybody? 😭

PanicMechanic2d ago

Knock knock “hellllloo anybody in there??”

Profchaos2d ago

Not really I mean what are you going to do not play doom the dark ages

P_Bomb2d ago

I’m not a Doom guy lol, so no I’m not buying that one. If anything I’ll demo it on Game Pass, someday. 🤷🏻

Notellin2d ago

Yeah I'm definitely not buying that one. I'm only interested in Perfect Dark and Fable but I'd never buy at MSRP. I'm the consumer who plays the games when you can get the Director's Cut with all DLC on sale for $10.

Profchaos2d ago

Probably should have used /s

Christopher2d ago

Honestly, everyone just wants me to buy their games 6+ months after release.

Notellin2d ago

The last five years all I've done is purchase games during the spring and fall sales. Saved so much money and played the same games with all the patches/DLC.

lukasmain2d ago

I've been really supportive of MS bringing their games to Playstion, including buying Indiana Jones when it came out although I'm not planning on playing it this year at all. But from now on, I refuse to buy anything they release at 80. This is it, Will always wait for sales form now on, just on principal. I can easily afford it, but I can't justify $80. NO WAY

ravens521d 16h ago

Exactly. That's what's going to happen. I got Expedition 33 day 1, I was a part of that million in 3 days. Imagine if it was $80... It wouldn't have sold a million, maybe been considered a flop and the studio closes. This isn't going to end good.

MrDead2d ago

The brought up some of the biggest IP's in the industry for a reason, and that reason is f**k you pay me if you want to keep playing.

This is where industry consolidation leads, three major publishers are no longer competing. More and more owned by fewer and fewer means price rises.

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Muigi2d ago

How else is the CEO gonna get his kid a cybertruck for their sweet 16?

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's how businesses work they don't absorb costs unless they have to.

They don't owe us anything and neither do we same goes for Nintendo and Sony

I even expect valve to increase the steam deck price

Profchaos2d ago

Looks like the Australian price for the series X is up to $849 for the base model bit the 2tb one which is now near the 1k mark.

849 for a console that cost 749 on launch 5 years ago is just Wild it's crazy how bad the economy is tanking right now.

I've never seen a price increase since the Jaguar and that was a while other dumpster fire

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Xbox Is Allegedly Working On 3 New Controller Prototypes

Microsoft is currently working on three new Xbox controller prototypes, each offering a unique feature set, according to a new rumor.

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darthv725d ago

Hopefully one of the designs has hall effect sticks.

neutralgamer19923d ago

Agreed

I hope they're also designing some larger controllers for those with larger hands

DivineHand1253d ago

Based on the info in the article, I see haptic feedback being mentioned and features to further reduce latency on PC and console but no mention of hall effect.

Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft must know something we don't about hall effect to make them not want to use it in their controllers.

redrum062d ago

Rough guess, but if controllers have a longer life span because these sticks won't fail, they potentially miss out on new controller sales.

Knushwood Butt3d ago

I wonder if one will have a mouse built into it?

UnbreakableAlex2d ago

Yes Hall effect would be nice but the things that really failed in me this generation where the buttons me die bumper and face buttons on series X and Switch Pro controller got sticky or broken.

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XBManiac3d ago

If a controller is not attached to a console from the beginning, nobody will use its "advantages". No new console, no new experiences for Xbox owners... But Microsoft can replicate Dual Sense and then... magic could happen and PC players could have more desirable options to connect to their systems, not only for PS5 conversions.

UnbreakableAlex2d ago

I really hope they include string HD rumble like in PS and Switch 2 controller. But really stronger. I could barely feel Hd rumble from Switch 1.