Would You Pay For A Mid-Gen PlayStation 5 Pro Or Xbox Series Y Upgrade?

We are far enough into this console generation where, like last console generation, the idea of a mid-gen PlayStation and Xbox upgrade is starting to be a topic of conversation.

[Aloymetal]

Day 1 PS5 PRO. Just announce it, set a release date and I'd place my pre order on Amazon.

[Jin_Sakai]

Same. Could sell my PS5 and cover 3/4 the cost of the PS5 Pro.

[Aloymetal]

Yes, that's the plan. That's what I did with my PS4 PRO, sold it to Amazon 2 months before the PS5's official release date.

[blackblades]

I would sell my OG ps4 considering I have a pro and ps5 but my mental state doesnt allow selling anything I own.

[SullysCigar]

I'd need to see something worthwhile t o tempt me into a PS5 Pro, but I'm happy with what I've got for a while yet, I'd say.

Xbox might want a mid-gen refresh after this latest news. Or a restart.

Xbox Y? It works on so many levels.

[jznrpg]

I would give my kids and wife my old PS5 and Pro for me. That’s what I did last gen with PS4.

[jznrpg]

@backblades I sell extra copies of unopened games for profit sometimes but I never sell my consoles for some reason. Maybe I’m just too lazy to do it. I have 2 PS4’s and a Pro still . My kids use the Pro right now but I don’t know why I haven’t sold the other PS4’s.
You made me think about it as I don’t even remember they are there.
I should bundle them up and go give them to some kids that can’t afford it with some games I don’t want. Thanks for the thought.

[blackblades]

@jznepg
I still have all my systems even the dead fat ps3. It makes sense to sell for $ earlier on but paying a good amount for something and selling it for less then half the price is meh also a mental thing that I just dont wanna sell anything and its not hoarding. Just to also note lol i still have old tips & tricks mags and others mags even printed guides.

[S2Killinit]

For a PS5 upgrade I would because I know I get my money’s worth.

[Aloymetal]

This! That's why I don't hesitate to buy whenever they announce a new/better model because sooner or later those great games will be there.

[CorndogBurglar]

But.....they haven't even quit making cross-gen games yet. We don't even know what the PS5 is fully capable of yet. Why would I want to go spend another $500 when we still don't even know what the PS5 can really do?

[--Onilink--]

Also, given that the PS5 is actually $550 right now, a Pro would certainly not cost less than that haha

[REDGUM]

A very valid point you make there!

[KyRo]

I personally wouldn't. I don't feel there's been any games have been held back from lack of power. I feel there's only been a handful of games that have truly shown us us what next gen can do. I really want last gen to be dropped so we can finally see what these machine can produce. Sonys own studios seem to be the only ones showing us what next gen is atm. Everything else seems like last gen with faster loads times and a higher frame rate.

The PS4 Pro made sense with the growth of 4K in the early 2010s. 8K is not viable for a lot of people and a lot of people aren't interested atm

[seanpitt23]

If I can get 60 fps ultra settings dynamic 4K no compromises I will get one.. fed up of picking either performance or graphics!

[neutralgamer1992]

no because next gen hasn't even properly been started. Let's get 18-24 months of true next gen games before there is a mid gen upgrade. also contrary to popupar beliefe those mid gen upgrades didn't sell well compared to their older counterparts

[-Foxtrot]

God no

We need to stop mid gen consoles, we can't even leave last gen behind properly at the minute

What's the point when you will never be able to truly take advantage because not everyone has them and developers always want parity. Those who do choose to work extra on additional features will be a small portion of developers.

Just wait until a full on next gen console where it can "wow" us more.

[Snookies12]

Yeah, I can say the PS4 Pro definitely wasn't worth it. I only bought it because my old PS4 was dying. So, I figured I'd just go ahead and get the better version. Definitely not going for a mid-gen upgrade again. It's nice if you don't have the original, but it's not going to be worth the cost of the upgrade 99% of the time.

[ABizzel1]

The PS4 Pro was a learning process, and didn't have all the tools it needed to be the upgrade it could have been. A better example would be the Xbox One vs the Xbox One X, where resolutions skyrocketed, games had better textures and quality at times, and more games had performance modes.

A theoretically PS5 Pro, would have a similar CPU but possible based on Ryzen 5000 laptop CPUs which is needed for much better performance in Unreal Engine 5 (the main reason the mid-gen consoles would be needed).

An updated GPU utilizing RDNA 3 (much better RT cores and the potential for FSR 3.0 for Fake Framerate Generation). Basically a laptop versions of the RX 7900xt / RX 7800xt / RX 7700xt (whenever the desktop version is announced this summer).

More VRAM 20GB - 24GB with higher memory bandwidth, the lesson they learned from the PS4 Pro, and that XBO-X didn't make.

And possibly a larger internal NVMe 1.65 TF.

From a hardware perspective maybe more USB and Type-C ports, vastly improved Direct-Connect support (for remote play on par with Wii U to tablet controller), optional audio ports for current home theater compatibility, etc...

[CobraKai]

I bought a Pro cuz the 4 was constantly being used by the wife and kids. I needed one for myself. Other than that, I had no real reason to upgrade.

[blackblades]

I honestly think there isnt gonna be a mid gen. Just because it happened once doesn't mean it'll happened again. I know Sony said there wasnt gonna be another but that's if you trust them then theres the so called rumors which you cant really trust.

[CorndogBurglar]

Right. And didn't they stop making PS4 Pros long before the new gen launched anyway? It makes me wonder how successful they really were. If they were selling truckloads of them why would they stop manufacturing them years before the new gen launched?

[IanTH]

They've also said, pretty exhaustively, that mid-gen happened because of the rise in 4K TV ownership. 4K TVs finally got cheap, everyone had them, and PS4/XBO were designed for 1080p max. All the Pro/X was primarily intended for was to give you a sharper picture on your new set, especially as average TV size went up so those pixels got stretched over a larger canvas (and at non-native resolutions).

There's no threat of something like 8K being around the corner like 4K was. At best, a mid-gen refresh would have to do something like give more RT performance, add hardware for improved upscaling or frame-generation...something outside raster performance, basically.

Perhaps the need will become apparent after last-gen gets fully dropped, and more games struggle to give a good-looking 60fps performance mode. Ultimately seems like a harder sell now than before, especially on top of a less stable economy.

[ABizzel1]

The main benefit will be performance, specifically in regards to native resolutions being upscaled and framerates.

There are 120fps games, but almost none of them are consistent, they often in the 80s - low 100s, a new mid-gen console fixes that. PSVR2 in particular would benefit greatly from games being native 120hz, instead of the pseudo 90Hz they have to use in some games.

Games that start using UE5 will be drastically more demanding, with the upcoming batch on PC using the full feature set of Lumen and Nanite, requiring RTX 2080 levels of performance (aka a tad above console performance with much better RT hardware) just for 1080p resolutions. A new mid-gen consoles fixes that and can bump the resolution up to Native 1440p which is significantly better for FSR support to upscale to 4K with less blur and artifacts in the image.

The potential for FSR 3.0 in a niche number of games, can dramatically increase performance as well too, especially in games that needs fluid motion, so games that end up being 30fps capped on old consoles, can instead be capped at 40fps with higher resolutions, and with the potential of FSR 3.0 run basically as smooth as a locked 60fps or unlocked 60 - 100fps.

Finally it refreshes the business for the manufacturer's, so they get a wave of sales from Day 1 buyers, upgrading while they're also able to get the original/slim models down to a more consumer friendly price. So technologically and game-wise there's merit, especially considering that AMD ensures their GPUs are backwards compatible with GNC which is helps Sony keeps PS4 BC running.

[Bobertt]

Yeah we haven't even had true next gen games yet. God of War and Horizon looked nice but they weren't true next gen they were cross gen. The only reason for a mid gen upgrade is if they screwed up and the PS5 is under powered and can't run the games they want properly. But that isn't the case so far.

[StarkR3ality]

I think a big part of the last mid gen refresh was to tick that 4K box as well as it was becoming more and more common. What display tech has come out recently that would warrant an upgrade?

I don't know a single person with an 8K TV and I'm the only person I know irl that has a 4K LG C1 Oled. Most people dont give a shit about 4k, 8K ain't coming anytime soon if ever, got to the point of diminishing returns with resolution.

[rlow1]

I’m waiting for a slim version of both consoles. I really think they both have more than enough power. Hell, we haven’t really received a truly next gen game yet. So, slim them down and if they do an upgrade, wait another two years.

[FallenAngel1984]

That’s what I’m doing. I’m too accustomed to slim PlayStation consoles at this point

[rlow1]

I agree, when I saw how big the PS5 was. I remember thinking, holy shit, where would I put it? Lol. I’m really hoping they will follow through this generation.

[blackblades]

Waiting must suck I bet. Like what happens if there wasnt a slim or pro on the way, a what if scenario. All that waiting would be for nothing and the next gen would about to start.

[rlow1]

I can wait for at least the next two. By then the first wave of true next gen games will be discounted and they’ll start to really push the hardware.

[Demetrius]

Ikr a lot is so cross gen, there were only a couple of games that even pushed the ps4/Xboxone they slick held back now it’s like that’s happening all over again

[rlow1]

Probably the last generation that really pushed the hardware, especially towards the end was the Xbox/PS3 era. I believe, especially on the PS3, that their was a lot more juice under the hood.

[porkChop]

Agreed. We really don't need more power. We need smaller consoles and no cross gen games.

[isarai]

Maybe eventually, but we haven't even really gotten this gen started due to the huge focus on cross gen development this gen. I'd honestly feel a bit ripped off

[Knightofelemia]

Unless it was a PS6 I am good with my PS5 right now. If Sony dropped a PS5 slim I would consider it.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I think the specs of Series X and PS5 are pretty future proof due to well balance GPU/CPU and RAM unlike their predecessors. “Pro” versions of Series X and PS5 should come with 2 TB hard drives.

[gangsta_red]

I would get a PS5 pro if it was smaller and slimmer.

[StarkR3ality]

Don't know why you're getting downvoted.. Xbox one X was 5x more powerful than the the OG model and half the size.

It can be done, but it's unlikely that the pro will come regardless.

[Knushwood Butt]

I got two PS4 Pros (still have an unopened Death Stranding SE) but this gen I think not.
There are very few PS5 only games as it is. I don't see any reason unless there was some huge PSVR2 boost.

[SullysCigar]

Same. I only bought PS4 Pro for the boost it provided for VR gaming. Unlocked framerates and dynamic resolutions were night and day between OG and Pro. You'd hope that that devs would patch in those features if we were to get a PS5 Pro. If that's what happens, I'll be tempted for sure. Otherwise, I'm good.

[masterfox]

I would definitely try to get a PS5 PRO, pretty much is guaranteed Sony Playstation exclusives would take advantage of the extra horse powa! and that's a big plus for me.

[AndrewM]

No, i don't see the point to mid gen upgrade when we are just now getting games that push the hardware a bit.

[shadowT]

PS5 and Xbox Series X are very well designed consoles. No need for an upgrade in the next two years. Xbox Series S is a different story.

[Killa78]

Yes if it's a significant upgrade as I can give the ps5 to a relative. I would expect 1440p 120 and 4k 60 minimum though.

[CrimsonWing69]

Nawww I mean we’re coming to the 3 year mark and I feel like I’ve barely seen what these current-gen consoles can do. I’ll just wait for the next-Gen consoles and hope to god it’s not cross-gen for 3 years, again.

[NotoriousWhiz]

Don't want a Ps5 Pro. But I do want a Ps5 slim.

[ravens52]

NO!

[Masterchief_thegoat]

Get the Ps5 pro. because series s will be holding back Xs and YS. MS made a big mistake making Series S

[Ra3030]

I got no problem getting a PS5 Pro but a Xbox Y to play little Indie games on Game Pass....no thanks, no chance!

[Outlawzz]

i dont think we need one right now especially considering theres still stock shortage. just got mine 2 months ago but had to try several stores to find it. not too bad but its still there

[Viljong]

For now its too early but its allready making and coming end of 2024 its good timing then. They just ditched the ps4 gen and are tapping into ps5 power. I buy ps5pro not sure about xbox.

[autoglope]

nah,..

[TheKingKratos]

No never
I am more than good with my ps5
What even the reason to make a pro... The Ps5 is so damn powerful and we haven't even seen half it's power yet

[MrNinosan]

PS5 Pro, yes, day 1.
Upgrading my Series X, nah, not needed. Only trying it out every now and then when a new game of interest arrives on GamePass.

[dumahim]

Yeah, I probably would. I wonder if it'd focus on better ray-tracing performance.

[repsahj]

Yes, If I don't have a PS5 or XSX. No if I have one and still running great.

[Rai]

Nope, i don't think i've played enough games on them to justify another purchase.

[TheLigX]

Absolutely not… no way. All we’ve had are cross gen games at this point. I still don’t feel like I’ve gotten much next gen use of the system.

[Miraak82]

I've only had my ps5 for like 6 months ...soooo no . If I'm gonna drop more money it'll definitely gonna be on a gaming PC so I can experience what I can't on PS

[kingnick]

I don't see AMD's current tech providing enough of an upgrade to justify spending another $750AUD+ on each.

I could see existing owners being pissed off when they have finally just managed to secure a console due to stock shortages learning their system is soon to be obsolete.

[Soulsborne]

Let the true next gen begin in 2024 hopefully, then maybe bring up a mid-gen update. We havent even left ps4 behind yet lol

[MetroidFREAK21]

No

[onisama]

Did they even use current gen to its fullest potential? We still call current gen as next gen for a reason

Its a big No for me

[jznrpg]

PS5 Pro for sure. Haven’t bought an Xbox since 360 days and now more than ever there is no need for one. I like Xbox Y , Y would I buy one ?

[andy85]

Personally yes, but I understand why others won't after there's been barely any games released. I'd just like to take more advantage of my 120hz screen and for a couple of hundred upgrade fee it's a no-brainer to me.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Not unless it allows for the latest RT as demonstrated by the latest Cyberpunk update.

Anything less I can wait for until next gen. Games look great now, I’ll save my $500 for a ps6.

[HeliosHex]

No I don't believe in half stepping. It's all or nothing.

[Lexreborn2]

Right now I wouldn’t still need to tap into these base consoles before we jump to “pro” models.

[hiawa23]

Nope. I am fine with the the current power level of the PS5 and Series X.

[Demetrius]

I don’t wana go off of what if they offer mid gen upgrades, I wana hear from the big 3 if they will even actually consider or got them in development

[yeahokwhatever]

they still dont make games FOR PS5, so no. (obviously this is a bit hyperbolic, but most PS5 games are just PS4 games, but at a higher resolution. The PS5 is a PS4 Pro Pro.)

[ironmonkey]

I mean I am highly interested because tech is just awesome but Gpu and cpu upgrades will peak my interest. Base ps5 is still beautiful machine.

[CobraKai]

Kinda wish they’d do an add-on or something to boost the current machine. Yeah I’m a 32X fan. Yeah I know it failed.

[shinoff2183]

Yes people would. If this would be the first time it's happened I'd get it but ps and Xbox did this same thing last Gen. The answer is obvious as fk why ask

[Elda]

I'll definitely buy a PS5 Pro on day one. I'll just hold on to the XBSX, there's no need for me to purchase a XBS Pro.

[TheEnigma313]

We may not get a pro. Pro came alonge because 4k was becoming the standard and they could barely do 1080p.

[InUrFoxHole]

No

[anast]

Of course, if I have the scratch.

[RaiderNation]

More like Xbox Series Why? LMAO.

[Babadook7]

Of course I would. Imagine Raytracing at 60 fps for nearly every game. Or raytracing in VR.

[Anomander]

Only if my PS5 died suddenly.

[Fonsecap]

If the pro versions could run at least 4k/60 without RT at a reasonable orice, I could consider

[northpaws]

Would I pay for it if there is one? Yes

I always want the latest stuff, and as I get older, the sooner I want them, too old to keep waiting.

But do I think there is a need for one? No.

Games are releasing way too slow now that you only get a handful of AAA games before another upgrade arrive, it is much cooler when Naughty Dog squeeze out the last bit of PS3 power and made The Last of Us. Or even last batch of SNES games like Chrono Trigger, or Donkey Kong... how they push the graphic with different tricks.

[Father__Merrin]

im not in favour of it. but could they not release consoles with mudular gpu?

[StarkR3ality]

No.

There's been like 4 titles that I can think of that actually demonstrate the visuals of this current gen hardware. Forbidden West, Demon Souls, Ratchet and Forza Horizon 5. Those are the only 4 games that I've said fuck this looks good out loud this gen.

Don't get me wrong, there have been many other games that look great, but mainly due to Cross gen been an issue, those 4 jump out.

The reason why the mid gen refresh happened last time is that the last console generation was massively underpowered at launch. Not saying these consoles are anything special compared to latest PC graphics but they're much more advanced than last gen.

Why do we need a mid gen refresh if there's no software to support it.

[PadrePio]

How about they make some games that actually utilize the base model hardware..

[ocelot07]

This is not me just throwing shade at Xbox. But having a mid gen refresh for Xbox is just silly. That means they have to optimise for Xbox consoles (4 if still doing XB1). That is just madness. Unless they stop supporting the series but they won't as that would also be madness as I imagine there are more series s owners than x.

[Miacosa]

Yes, if games can run full 4k HDR with ray tracing @ 60-120 FPS locked.

[StarkR3ality]

You'd need a 4090 to get those frames at 4k with ray tracing. Unless they start charging £2000+ that ain't gunna happen my friend.

[gurp]

yes, day 1 purchase, 4k60 over everything

[HyperMoused]

Id argue it wont do anything games are still being held back by last gen etc etc, but yes i would

[Doomster1971]

No. The only time that these types of enhanced consoles have been released was last gen, because 4K TVs were becoming the norm. That's not the case this gen. 8K TVs are not becoming the norm and possibly never will. I can't see enhanced consoles coming out this gen. It was such an unusual thing to happen. Nintendo didn't release a switch pro (despite all the predictions). That's how unusual it was.

[frostypants]

Nah. But I'm cool with the concept.

[Ninver]

No. They've yet to even push current gen consoles to their limits. I don't want to any mid gen consoles for another 3 years minimum

[Abear21]

Well, I did enjoy my PS4 Pro much better than vanilla. 60 fps with RT? If not then no.

[Kaozz1979]

No

[sagapo]

Nope. Bought a PS4 pro at the time, can’t say it was worth the investment to be honest. And we haven’t seen the full potential of the PS5 yet, so I don’t see the point at this moment.

[EazyC]

This gen still feels like it has to kick off to be honest....so definitely no, unless something massive changes.

[Dandalandan117]

Nope!
As of the moment, there haven't been a lot of games that take advantage of the current hardware due to major game releases being held back by previous gen.

[Yppupdam]

If I get another invite from Sony to order one direct, I'll most likely pick one up.

[BrainSyphoned]

Ah the Xbox whY. Same question I asked myself when I bought the X.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I haven't bought a PS5 yet, but if I was to buy one I'd get the Pro version, I wanted to get a PS4 Pro, but too many games I wanted started coming out, so I couldn't wait. If I already owned a PS5, I wouldn't bother with a PS5 Pro.

[BlackDoomAx]

I would pay for ps5 games.